Good evening.
Welcome to the City of Warren Planning Commission, meeting
of June 10th, 2024.
We please stand for the Pledge
of Allegiance, our pledge allegiance
To the flag Of United States, America, and to the
Republic For which it stands.
Nation, nation, Under God. Individual
With liberty. With liberty
and justice. All.
Roll call. Commissioner Childry
Present.
Commissioner Robinson Present.
Commissioner Ted Present.
Commissioner Ansar present,
commissioner Maurice Present. Commissioner Bernanki
Present. Commissioner
Smith, Present.
I need a motion to approval of the agenda.
Motion to approve Robinson support Tut
As a motion by Commissioner Robinson.
Support by Commissioner Tut. Mm-Hmm. Roll call
Commissioner.
Re present. Commissioner Robinson.
No. Support. Support. Support.
To approve. Support. To support. Support.
Because we Yes. Yes.
Commissioner Robinson. Yes. Commissioner Todd. Yes.
Commissioner? Yes. Commissioner Morey. Uh, votes. Yes.
Commissioner Berki? Yes. Commissioner Smith?
Yes. Number item number five, approval of the minutes
of May 20th, 2024.
Need a motion to approve it?
Motion to approve the minutes from May 20th, 2024.
Support Beki
As a motion by Commissioner ta supported
by Commissioner Beki.
All in favor? Aye. Aye.
Any opposed public hearing items?
We're going to, when we go into the public hearing items,
we're gonna hear the items and then, uh, anyone would like
to speak on the items will come up
and you'll have three minutes to
speak to state your comments.
So, item number six a
Item number six, a request for public alley vacation.
A utility easement vacate the north half
of the existing north slash South 18
fee alley on the rear lot.
10, 11, 12,
and 1 45 Of Rivers Garden Division
located south of Jackson,
approximately 154 feet west of Van D**e.
Section 33 2 0 8 4 3 Van D**e Avenue,
FMHH Inc.
Hussein Chara, PAV 2 4 0 0 0 1.
Planning staff recommends this item to be postponed
to July 8th, 2024.
I need a motion to postpone this to July 8th, 2024.
Motion to postpone to July 8th, 2024.
Robinson Support Tut
Has motion by Commissioner Robinson,
supported by Commissioner Tut.
All in favor? Aye. Any opposed?
Um, I probably should do a roll call on that,
but I'll do it on the next one.
Item six B.
Item number six B.
Special land used for Al Shahi Place Restaurant
with banquet facility located on 12 Mile Road,
approximately 140 feet east of Ryan Road.
4 2 3 5 12 mile road. Section eight.
Tom Hamma, affinity for investment.
LLC Karen Ann Birdie slash Earl Earl
and Rose Pll C-P-S-L-U
2 4 0 0 0 1.
Planning staff recommends this item to be postponed
to July 8th, 2024.
Mr. Wirth, would you like to speak?
Didn't Thank you, uh, Mr. Chair?
Uh, yeah, we looked over the plans.
There are several things, uh, that aren't working with,
with the plans themselves.
If you look at the letter provided.
However, uh, number one, there was a mention
of the survey plan not being, uh, uh, correctly submitted.
And, uh, we did have a conversation with, uh, the,
um, with Karen Birdie about, about it.
And, and, uh, we're gonna remove the item.
Uh, what I looked at, uh, she just has
to put a notation on the plan, on the survey plan to, uh,
bring it into conformance.
So that's the only thing changed with the letter, the rest
of it, or reasons why it should be postponed.
All right. So I'm gonna need a motion to postpone
to July 8th, 2024.
Motion to postpone to July 8th, 2024.
Robinson Support Commissioner Childry.
There was a motion by Commissioner Robinson,
supported by Commissioner Childry. Uh, roll call.
Commissioner Robinson. Yes.
To postpone. Commissioner Childry? Yes.
Commissioner Ansar?
Yes. To Postpone. Commissioner Todd? Yes.
Commissioner Mor votes. Yes. Commissioner Buki?
Yes. To Postpone Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To postpone the July 8th, 2024 item number six C,
Item number six C, a part of
Bel Tent subdivision vacation, including Ruhel Avenue,
public right of way and public alley, uh, vacating lots.
1 71 2 1 74 Include including lots
2 63 to 2 66 lots.
2 3 19, 2 3 21.
The 18 feet wide north slash South public Alley located
131.67 feet west of Linderman Avenue
and the North slash South Fe, uh, south 50 feet wide.
Ruhel Avenue public right away.
3 2 5 4 9 Ruel Avenue, section three, city of Warren
Han Ha Tuck coastal coast
to coast U-S-A-L-L-C-P-E-V
2 4 0 0 0 3. Thank you.
Good evening. Is the petitioner here this evening?
Good evening, sir. Could you
tell us a little bit about your project?
I'd love to, uh, if you could pull up the site plan.
That's it. Uh, this property, oh,
by the way, this is, uh, tomorrow will be the, uh,
four year anniversary of when I started this project.
It's been fun, but What I'd like
to say is this property was a, uh,
four time tax reverted property over a 20 year period.
And everyone that purchased this property from the city
had no idea what to do with it.
So they let it go back for taxes.
And I came up with a program that I thought would work
and I presented it to, uh, the planning department, Mr.
Wirth, and he thought it was a good idea, too.
It was a good idea then, and it's a good idea.
Today, the concept is to trans,
to revert the lots from going east to west
to north to south.
Uh, if you look at that closely,
you'll see green lines that'll actually show
where the lots, the new lots would be.
Originally, when I agreed to purchase the land, uh,
the purchase was for all the property
from tr from Tremble all the way down to Beaver Creek, uh,
which was about a 500 foot depth property.
And then working with the city, uh, Mr.
Wirth and our previous mayor,
they thought it might be a good idea to maintain
the pat property in the back for a future waterpark.
If you look at this drawing that's up there right now,
that's the GIS drawing.
And it shows where in, in blue, in the top corner, it shows
where the project is.
All the rest of the property that's, uh,
marked out in yellow is all city owned property,
and it goes all the way down to the water treatment plant.
If you could put up the pho, the photos, please.
These pictures were taken in 2022 September,
uh, along Beaver Creek.
Could you pop up the next one? Uh, that's bait.
Beaver Creek. I know that none
of you have ever been down there to look at this, uh,
this water, uh, water, uh, feature.
But the city was thinking they should have
a water feature park.
Now, that might happen someday.
Of course, the money has to be supplied,
but at least you have the property
if you ever want to do it.
The next pic picture is basically the same area,
and if you look real closely at that picture,
you'll see a raccoon in there.
The reason I'm I'm here tonight is
because I'm here to ask for a signature.
I've been working on this for four years,
and I came to the realization
after talking with the gentleman
from the state of Michigan,
that would be Nicholas Cleaver.
And you should have a copy of this in your file.
I don't think it's necessary to go for to go over the
complete details of it, but I'd like
to go over a quick review.
Nicholas Cleaver is in charge of subdivisions for the state
of Michigan, and there's a quirk in the law in the state
of Michigan subdivision, uh, act.
And that quirk requires
a subdivision if it's in a floodplain area, that you have
to raise the grade, the, the land area up
above the floodplain area.
And that's okay if the site is big enough
and there's enough dirt to borrow from someplace else,
but in this case, there isn't.
So the only way to get around that, based on
what I've learned from Mario Fu Fu Fuco,
and he is the gentleman that's in charge
of this area, uh, for Eagle.
You can do it by using a crawl space
to bring up the first floor grade above a floodplain area
and then putting flood gates in the crawl space in
case there is a flood someday.
Uh, this property, just so you know,
when we had the last 500 year flood, when Van D**e was
waste deep in water at 13 mile, this property did not flood.
Regardless of that, we still have to follow the rules,
and those rules require that we put in, uh, the crawlspaces.
And in order to do that, that I have
to remove the subdivision
or part of the subdivision that we're talking about here
and transform that into a, uh, single family
site condo development.
And then it's allowed, The
petitioner is more than willing to take this.
This has to be taken to circuit court, okay?
And you have to hire an attorney, take it to circuit court,
and the judge has to approve the removal of a subdivision.
After that circuit court procedure is done,
then you can take it to the state, the, the, uh, county, uh,
recorder of deeds and have it recorded as a site condo
as opposed to being a subdivision.
And that's the only way we can get this done.
And when I went to the city
and asked for a signature to allow the attorney
to start the procedure,
and of course, pay for it, they said we had to go back
through planning and back through city council.
So that starts another four month process.
I would like it like very much for you to, you know,
to approve this.
I'd also like to introduce the petitioner
Quinn Pan.
Would like to explain exactly what they would like to do
with this property after we get
this situation cleared up.
Thank you Clin for the kind introductions.
My name is Quin Fund and I'm here with Clin
and Hana, representing Coast to coast.
USA is the petitioner for this, um, project.
We are honored to hear today
to address the officer members delegations of the city
of Warrens and the community members.
Our company submit has submitted, uh, petitions
for the vacations, a part of the Trumpton subdivision,
which include the Rue Avenue, public RightWay
and the public Alley.
We are proposing to develop nine residential
detach single family homes on the site.
So we will provide the, um, the overview
of the concept plan that we're looking into.
We are committed to join the city
of Warren in initiative to go green.
Our commitment to the environmental sustainability means
that we will integrate the greens
and energy efficient practice into our development.
The proximity of the creek, uh, the Beaver Creek
behind the subdivision will provide an excellent opportunity
to enhance and preserve the natural environment.
Therefore, uh, this is a layout planned of the nine partial,
uh, detached nine single residential home that, uh,
Glen has explained is gonna be a site condo.
Uh, but it's actually a nine, uh,
detached single family home.
And, uh, can you please go to the next slide and, uh,
and we will implement energy efficiency
because we believe preserving the green
and natural environment from the
Beaver Creek is very important.
So we will build
and smart harm el um, homes, LED lights,
energy star certifications.
Uh, we will implement, uh, renewable energy.
We're planning to do, uh, rooftop solar energy
and, uh, sustainable practice that we will apply such
as water conservations, waste reductions,
energy efficien appliance,
and preserve the green landscaping in the perimeter.
And following is the, uh, we have d uh,
envision different architecture view
for the development at the subdivision site condo.
So these, again, I just want to emphasize
that these are nine detached single family homes
that we all, you know, our vision
to put into this development.
Thank you, ma'am. Thank you.
Any course for your attentions and consideration
Correspondence.
Correspondence, taxes,
current assessing the assessing department does not have any
issue with the Triton subdivision vacation,
which includes Rual Avenue, also
DPW based on our foreman's investigation,
this will not impact DPW Operations Engineering.
Preliminary review
of this site yelled at the following comments from the
engineering division with regards
to vacating Ruel Avenue 50 inch
and the 18 feet wide, uh, north slash South, uh,
public alley located 137.67 feet
west of Linderman Avenue.
Um, number one, indicate how you intend
to abandon the 1212 feet sanitary main on Ruhel
Avenue Fire.
The Warren Fire Department app uh, approves this site plan.
If you have any questions,
please contact me at
5 8 6 7 5 6 2 8 0 0
with extension code 3 3 0 0 at
t at t objects to vacation of Rual Avenue
and the 18 feet alley to the east of la five to eight,
unless a full width easement is reserved,
we have a major conduit run in the Rual Avenue, ROW
and aerial facilities installed in the alley.
If the petitioner would like to discuss relocation option,
please advise them to contact Courtney Dunford
cd0196@att.com.
Also 5 8 6 8 4 2 7 7 5 8 Comcast.
We have conflicts with the proposed vacation.
Aerial cables are highlighted in orange for fiber
and yellow for Coke's.
Cable underground is highlighted in blue for fiber
and green for Coke's cable, D-T-E-D-T-E has to object
to this vacation as there is equipment located in the
requested vacation areas impacting 3 2 5 4 9 Royal Avenue
Section three per the site plan provided.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate
to contact me at 5 86 7 8 3 1 9 7 8
uh, MCPW.
Please be advised that this letter is
for comment in relation to right away
and county drain easements only.
This office would have no objection to the vacation
of the above request.
There is not a county drain
or easement on subject property prior
to a site plan approval.
Any proposed project that is under the jurisdiction
of this office shall apply the McComb County Public Work
Office design standard.
It is advisable to schedule an engineering meeting
with this office to discuss how our standards may apply.
To schedule a meeting with this office,
please contact heather.Morin@mccombgov.org.
Please, please contact this office
should you have any questions.
5 8 6 4 6 9 5 9 1 0. Thank you.
Thanks Madam Secretary.
Planning Department's recommendation.
I would like to address those issues if I could.
Uh, we're having the planning department's
recommendation right now, sir.
Okay. All right. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
The, uh, recommendation is as follows.
I can't read this thing out.
Alright. It is, uh, it is recommended that the, uh, lots,
uh, 1 71 through 1 74 lots, uh,
2 63 through 2 66
lots, three 19 through 3 21,
the 18 foot wide North South public Alley, located
131.67 feet west of,
uh, Linderman Avenue, and a budding lots, uh, a
and a budding lots, a budding lots, uh, 2 63
through 2 66
and lots, uh, three 19 through 3 21
and the north south 50 foot wide Ruly Avenue
abutting lots, 1 71 through 1 74 and lots.
2 63 through 2 66,
including all associated easements of tremble
subdivision be vacated.
Subject for subject to the petitioner, uh, complying
with the conditions imposed as follows.
Number one, uh, the Land Division Act
indicates various procedures pertaining to, uh, the, uh,
amendment of plats.
And, and petitioner is responsible for complying
with any further procedures as may be necessary under
Michigan Land Division Act.
Uh, MCL five 60.221,
uh, to complete the vacation.
Number two, the developer shall work with the affected, uh,
utility companies to create a relocation plan
for affected utilities within the easement areas.
Uh, a copy of the plan shall be
provided to the planning department.
Uh, condition number three.
Approval is obtained from City Council.
The petitioner must complete the conditions within two
years, or the approval
by city council shall automatically be revoked.
Condition number four, uh,
the petitioner must provide the planning department
with documentation indicating that all conditions
as assigned are completed.
Uh, the department then notifies, uh, the city clerk.
A certified copy of the resolution shall be recorded
with the Macomb County Register of Deeds.
Uh, condition number five, a complaint must be filed
by the petitioner, uh, in Circuit Court, uh,
to vacate the public utility easement.
The next two sentences will be deleted.
So then I move on to where it says, as an alternative, the,
uh, petitioner may by non-judicial process relinquish,
uh, the public utility easement by written agreement
between certain affected parties, a co a copy of the, uh,
court order or relinquishment.
Uh, and the, uh, recorded documents must be
provided, uh, to the planning department,
assessing department, department of law,
and building division and city clerk.
And so with that, uh, Mr.
Chair recommendation is submitted. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Worth. This is a public hearing.
Anyone would like to speak on this
item, please come forward.
You have three minutes to, to speak.
Hello, my name is Joel Catino.
I, a year ago in March,
purchased 32,600 Ruly right on the corner of Trumpton.
Um, my bedroom window
and driveway would be right across
from buildings five and six.
Um, this was my dream home.
I purchased this home because of the empty lot.
Um, this was, um, made aware to me
to about two weeks ago when I got the letter in the mail.
I just wanna go on record to say I, I disapprove.
Um, I am worried about the increased traffic on the other
side, on my side from the Mexican restaurant traffic,
which already fills the whole street.
Um, I am worried about the wildlife.
I currently have about 14 deer that visit my front yard,
and a turtle came the other day in my garage.
Um, even though they've chosen some smart houses,
which I commend them on, I moved to this place
after being in a condo for 15 years
and running an association for 15 years.
And I thought I was getting away from the houses right next
to each other for my little piece
of heaven right here on this corner.
And so I'm a little disappointed and,
and feel a bit gutted
that all these mature trees are gonna be ripped out
and that I'm gonna have
to look at out my bedroom window, a row of homes.
Um, I don't have, uh,
anything other than a personal re reason
to disapprove of it.
Um, I almost didn't buy that home
because I had heard, um,
that the 10 years ago my home was under five feet of water,
along with other neighbors.
So I don't know their information about the nut flooding.
Um, because I personally was told my home had five feet
of water in it, um, in spite of the flood insurance I had
to purchase and the higher taxes, which just went up, again,
another 1300 bucks.
I chose this piece of property
because it feels like my serenity and my piece of heaven.
I have a very high stress job and I go outside
and I sit on my bench and I look at those trees
and I walk my dog in there.
And that's my favorite place is
that area there across the street.
Um, so it's just a personal thing.
I would like to just put myself on record
that I am not looking forward to the increased traffic.
We already have people racing down that road
as fast as they can go.
Um, I, I'm just here to put my disapproval in and that's it.
Thank you, ma'am. You're Welcome.
Is there anyone else that'd like to speak on this item?
Uh, Tom Beal. I live at the corner
of Linderman and Tremble.
And a few questions. One is, will my address change?
They're eliminating the street
that has my address in front of my house.
You know, it still exists, but
not in front of my house anymore.
So, um, sidewalks I see on these pictures.
I don't have info of this. Uh, it's been like four years.
Well, I have to pay for sidewalks
continuing on 'cause I'm next door.
Um, the parking for the restaurant,
which I don't see anybody from the restaurant here,
but goes all the way to my house.
So it goes to that street that you're eliminating
that dead end people use that for parking.
Um, people for the house across
the street, use it for parking.
I parked there. So you're eliminating parking spots,
but not adding any, um,
Mexico City doesn't have any parking.
They have a little teeny parking lot.
Uh, if you drive by there at lunch
or dinner, um, the street is full.
Um, does anyone have solutions to that?
Is there anyone who can speak to that?
We're just taking your comments right now, sir,
and then we'll go from there.
I, um,
And well, I'd like to, the information
that I saw on the screen, uh, I'd like to get that,
um, I guess the info about, um,
will I have to pay for sidewalks?
Will it in fact impact my taxes?
Will I have to pay anything more
because I'm trying to retire?
I guess that's it.
Thank you, sir. Oh, um,
I'm raising the property.
If they raised the level of property, I guess
that was ruled out, but if they do, that affects me too.
I'm on the flood point. Um, I pay for parcels.
I pay tax on parcels. You can't bill them.
So it, you know, the whole thing.
Um,
I'm right next to it.
I don't want that property going up
and then flooding under my property.
Thank you, sir. Anyone else like to speak on this item?
Seeing none will turn over to the commission.
I need a motion.
I Motion to approve the vacation
Robinson Support Commissioner Childry.
There was a motion by Commissioner Robinson,
support by Commissioner C Childry.
Any discussion?
Um, I like, um, yes, I have a quick discussion.
Um, uh, if I can have the petitioner up who was speaking.
Yeah. Um, I know you had something
that you also wanted to bring up, uh,
at when, um, Ron was speaking.
So if you wanted to complete your, um,
thought real quick. Sure. Yeah.
Uh, I've been doing this for a long time on this project,
and I have already talking to, uh, Comcast, at
and t and DTE
and made adjustments in the plat to allow
for their facilities to be within an easement
that they've agreed is wide enough
and acceptable in the alleyway scenario
that that alleyway, even though it's gonna be vacated,
it's gonna turn into an easement.
And what I did there was I moved
the alleyway into an easement
and put the poles of that DTE, uh,
system in the middle of that easement as opposed to
where it was originally, which is about four
or four to five inches from the very west
edge of the alleyway.
So I have those agreements in writing from them, Moretti,
and I'd be happy to, I I'm gonna have to go back to 'em
because it's been two years since they agreed.
I'll have to get them renewed, I'm sure.
But I'll be happy to do that for you. That's it.
Okay. Um, to the petitioner,
can you I have a question. Uh,
Mr. Robinson? Mr. Robinson?
Yes. It's, it's that Ms. Robinson?
Pardon? You have to come through me
to talk to the petitioner.
Pardon? If you need to speak to the petitioner, you need
to ask for me to be able to speak to the petitioner.
Okay? Yes. Can I ask a question to the petitioner?
You know, I have the floor. Thank you.
I can Go
Ahead. Okay.
Um, how are you going to address,
uh, engineering concerns regarding the 12 inch
san uh, the sanitary main on
Wool? Yeah, there's
an existing sanitary that was placed in there
before, uh, when it was originally developed.
Mm-Hmm. And the road was never put in, of course.
So I, uh, approached that issue with Tina from engineering
and do have a letter from her explaining to me exactly
what they want to be done with it.
And that may or may not be in your file.
So they, they're in agreement with Oh,
yeah, with, with the changes,
Yeah. That, uh, that,
uh, sanitary is, uh, is of no use whatsoever
to anyone, uh, unless you were to build houses
and put Ley Street in as far as you could
before it got to the creek.
Okay. So that's not a concern
At this. No, I've already, I've
already talked to Tina address that.
Yeah. We're, we're in agreement on what
to be, do what can be
Done. Okay.
Thank you. Mm-Hmm.
Does anyone else like to speak on this?
I have a quick question chair. Go ahead.
Um, I know there's residents,
they were probably notified within, uh,
certain radius, right?
So has there been
any talks about if there has been, um,
a meeting can be placed with the residents
to address any concerns?
Have, is that something you've looked into?
It's, it, they'll, they'll be addressed not only by us,
but when this goes, uh, to circuit court, uh,
everyone within 300 feet has to be notified of the,
uh, of the court hearing.
Absolutely. Yeah. But I mean, have you thought about,
you know, there are residents here
and they're concerned trying to address those issues
before, you know, you guys go into circuit court trying
to resolving it with the residents.
Uh, that could be, that could be
accomplished. I'd have to arrange it.
I think that would be more feasible for the residents
and they've been living in that area for so long,
and I think their input is logical as well.
You know,
I would agree with that.
I would be happy to reach out to them.
I, I've never, I've been through this once before
and the first time I went through there was no one
that showed up at the meeting to complain about it.
So maybe things have changed. It's been four years.
It looks, yeah. It looks like there are some residents
here and I feel like they have some concerns
that need to be addressed.
And I mean, perhaps a small meeting
or something, you know, to address it
and make sure you guys are all on the same page.
Do you have a list of their names?
Okay. I'd love to have.
Okay. Thank you. Thank You.
Anyone Else like to speak on this item?
I do. Um, I just wanna bring up too, when you meet with,
um, I think it's important, the one neighbor that brought up
with the rise in the nine homes, would that run,
would if the water like, run off into his yard, you know,
that's something to be addressed.
And then additionally with eliminating the street?
That's a good question. Like, what happens to his address?
Like, does that change? So I think
I agree with commissioner.
You know, these kind of things need to be talked over
with the neighbor, so I encourage that as well.
So I'm supporting her comment.
The, any existing house that
is in that neighborhood would not be affected at all.
Uh, because the only lots that are going
to be affected are the vacant ones.
Uh, so I have a little problem understanding exactly
what he was saying, uh,
because his house address will not change in addition to
that property outside
of this particular property would not be affected at all
requiring sidewalks that are already, if it,
if it doesn't have a sidewalk, now it's grandfathered in.
Uh, I live in Warren in an area
that some houses have sidewalks and some houses don't.
And the city can't force someone to put a sidewalk in,
even if the property is sold to a new buyer.
Uh, if it's grandfathered in with no sidewalk,
it makes a little difficult to walk the dog.
But other than that,
by putting this together on a site condo development,
the grade of the land would not
change by doing this.
We're alleviating the problem of bringing truckloads
of fill in.
If it were to be developed as a subdivision,
they would require those truckloads of fill
to come in to raise the grade.
So the first floor level would be above six oh, uh, uh,
9 0 6 0.1.
But by putting these houses on a crawl space,
we're raising the floor up, but not raising the ground up.
So the existing area of in, in topography
of the land would remain pretty much the same.
Yeah. Thanks for explaining that.
But I, I, I think that's why these conversations need
to be had with the residents.
So I support her comment.
Yeah, I, I would understand that.
I wouldn't want my neighbor to raise the grade
of their property, so my backyard was full of water.
It wouldn't be good.
Thank you, commissioner tat. Anyone else?
To the petitioner? Good evening, sir. Thank
You. Uh,
don't, don't leave yet. No. Can, can I talk?
Sure. Um, you've heard the,
the owners of the adjacent properties, uh, concerns
and you raised how you can probably
solve some of those issues.
Uh, I agree with the rest of the commissioners.
You should maybe have a meeting with them
to maybe better explain to them what you're doing as far
as the crawl space and things like that.
If it does flood
and water gets under the crawl space, do you have any type
of drainage system that will take
that water away from that area?
It's all natural flow.
It'll be natural flow and it would go to the street
and the, the, uh, storm stores would pick it up.
Plus the fact that that property flows from ton it,
it's higher on Embleton
and it drops down on a gradual slope all the way
to Beaver Creek, which makes a lot of sense
because that's the way nature nature created it.
So the majority of the water is gonna flow, uh,
not toward the existing houses,
but to the, uh, to the south
where Beaver Creek would pick up that drain.
And Beaver Creek is actually big Beaver Creek
and that creek goes all the way up to North Troy
is where it originates.
And most of that Beaver Creek is in the other communities,
uh, being utilized for parks.
So it's very clean water.
Okay. Now, uh, another thing,
these site condos have sewers
that are gonna be tied in each one of those.
So is the sewer system gonna be large enough
to handle all the site condos that you're putting in?
According to my engineers, yes.
It would have to be attached.
You know, we'd have to connect to the source.
There are three existing manholes that can be tapped.
Plus they can tap the sewer that's existing on tremble,
uh, on the, on the other, uh, ones, uh, the other lots.
But that's, and the water has
to be brought across the street, you know,
from the other side of Remington.
That's where the water line is.
So there's some significant cost in making this happen.
Okay. Uh, just, you know,
because it is kind of sort in the flood zone,
you get a little concerned about
with all the rain we've been getting and things like that.
Uh, problems with drainage.
And I can understand that people don't want problems
with drainage in their lots.
Yeah. The natural flow of the land, which should alleviate
that unless we get, you know, uh, a another 500 year flood.
And I wasn't,
my son was stranded on 13 mile in Vandyke
and the water was way steep.
He had to walk across Vandyke to get home.
Uh, but I was there.
I live in Ward and that area
did have flooded basements,
but it didn't have any five feet of water above grade.
It just didn't happen. So there's stories out there
that sometimes you can believe and sometimes you can't.
Alright. Thank you, sir.
Do you have, uh, any questions with the recommendations?
Do you understand the recommendations?
Uh, I would prefer to, uh, have, uh,
have it not be postponed for a meeting.
I'd be happy to do that,
but I still have to take it to council.
So these concerns would have
to be addressed at, at that time anyway.
All right. Thank you, sir. Thank you.
Um, I don't have any more questions,
so you have questions?
Okay. Good. Roll call.
That was a, uh, a motion by Commissioner Robinson,
supported by Commissioner Childry.
Um, commissioner Robinson. Yes. Commissioner Childry? Yes.
Commissioner Anza? Yes. Commissioner Todd?
Yes. Commissioner more votes? Yes. Commissioner Beke? Yes.
To support Commissioner Smith? Yes.
The approved motion passes, sir.
Good luck with your, um, endeavor,
and hopefully you get everything squared away.
Item number six D,
Item number 60, site plan for outdoor dining area
for existing restaurant.
Located on the west side of Ryan Road,
approximately 248 feet south of 11 Mile Road.
2 6 8 3 7. Ryan Road, section 19.
Steven Seve, Sima, Barchi,
PSP 2 4 0 0 1 1. Thank you.
Thanks ma'am. Secretary. Good evening, sir.
Can you tell us a little bit about your project? Sure.
I'm Steve Duma from Design Struck.
Uh, we provided the, the site plans.
Uh, it's an existing restaurant with existing hardscape next
to the building that they want to use
as a outdoor, uh, dining area.
It's about 1,125 square feet.
Uh, there's some existing vegetation along the north side
that we're, uh, gonna leave.
We've looked at the recommendations from planning
and are in agreement with all of the recommendations,
and we can, uh, resubmit those plans
to meet those recommendations.
And if the commissioners have any questions,
it's a pretty simple project.
Thank you, sir. Correspondence
Correspondence, Texas Current Engineering
preliminary review.
This site indicated, indicated,
yelled at the following comments from
the engineering department.
Number one, outdoor seating shall receive a variance.
Number two, provide a camp maneuvering space
for the parking spaces south of the building fire.
The Warren Fire Department approves this site plan.
If you have any questions, please contact me at
5 8 6 7 5 7 5 6 2 8 0 0
with extension code 3 3 0 0.
At and t at and t does not object to the request.
We have facilities in the vicinity of this project,
but they shall not be affected.
Comcast, we have no conflicts with this proposal.
MCPW This office would have no objection
to the building addition request.
There is not a county drain or easement on subject property.
Please contact this office should you have any questions.
5 8 6 4 6 9 5 9 1 0. Thank you.
Thanks ma'am. Secretary Planning
department's recommendation
Thing over the,
Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
The recommendation is as follows.
It is recommended that the site plan for outdoor dining area
for existing restaurant, uh, be approved
with the standard conditions
of the, uh, planning commission.
More specifically, uh, number one, five copies
of revised site plans, uh,
must be submitted indicating the following.
Uh, a the zoning item of the, uh,
site criteria shall be changed from, uh, p that's parking
district to P parking district, the East 30 feet
and the South 46 feet of the property.
Uh, the parking district zoning
locations are indicated on the plan.
However, p uh,
the P district along Orion Road is measuring 35 feet
from the east property line instead of 30 feet.
Uh, provide the, uh, dimensions
and the updated, uh, zoning information on the plan
and in the site data chart one B.
All dimensions, uh,
shall be clearly indicated on the site plan.
Uh, provide the distance from the concrete patio, uh,
to the north and east property lines.
One c update the parking calculation
of the site plan per section three point, excuse me,
4.32 number 17.
And that's one parking space for, uh, each 200
square feet of, uh, floor area.
The total building floor area,
5,636 square feet,
and the outdoor seating area,
1,125 square feet equals
6,761 square feet.
Therefore, 34 parking spaces are required.
Add a line item to parking that's existing stating
required parking spaces 34 spaces.
1D All existing concrete bumper curbs within the
site shall be indicated on the site plan.
A note shall be provided stating the bumper curbs will be
set back five feet from the north and south property lines.
And any damage to or missing bumper curbs shall be replaced.
One e the parking space is in maneuvering lanes, uh, east
of the building shall be retried, uh,
to create a 22 foot wide maneuvering lane
between the parking spaces, abutting the building walkway
and the grass area along the front.
And that's Ryan Road of the site.
The parking spaces along the grass front setback
can be striped with 18 feet on the concrete
with a two foot overhang onto the grass area.
And that effectively gives you the length of 20
feet the required length.
One f uh, remove the reference to handicap parking
and replace with, uh, with accessible parking.
Additionally, one of the accessible parking spaces
must be van accessible size
per a DA requirements.
Okay, one DA note shall be
provided stating all lighting on the site, uh,
shall be shielded
and, uh, not encroach upon abutting properties.
Uh, light poles shall be no higher than 20 feet.
All glare shall be eliminated from the light fixtures.
Upward directed lighting shall not be permitted.
One h uh, the existing pole mounted light fixtures
shall be directed downward
and noted on the site plan one, I provide the width
of the driveway as measured at the east property line one
J in the grass area
between the parking lot and the sidewalk.
Plant. Six low growth shrubs per section
16.06 of the zoning ordinance.
Planting staff recommends a mixture of New Jersey TEE
and, uh, shrubbery SFO foil, excuse me.
Condition number two. It is recommended. Well wait.
I still have another one. That's JK, uh,
this is a recent edition.
Simply says, repair all potholes in the parking lot, uh,
within one year's time.
And now we'll go to, uh, condition number two.
It is recommended that the petitioner eventually rezone
the parking district two C one local business district.
This will eliminate unneeded multi
zones within the city
and allow for the property to be one uniform zone.
Uh, okay, here we go. Uh, excuse me. Condition three.
The following variances, uh, are recommended
by the planning staff and may
and may need to be obtained, uh, from the Board
of Appeals prior to the release of the site plan
to the building division.
So that would be three A, retain
the existing maneuvering lanes
and parking space lengths that do not meet the requirements
of four point.
Uh, three, two, I, uh,
the plan indicates, uh, parking spaces at 17.5 feet,
18.1 foot, 18.6 foot,
and 19.3 in length.
The minimum length shall be 20 feet
for internal parking spaces
and 22 feet along a property line.
Okay. Three B retain
a 19.9 foot wide maneuvering lane
and maneuvering lane between the south elevation
of the building and the
19.3 foot length parking spaces.
Uh, condition number four, a performance bond,
uh, in the amount of, uh, $150 be posted according
to the estimated cost of $5,000 by the petitioner.
Uh, however, there's a note,
and that's the planning staff believes
that the proposed bond amount is, uh, too low given the fact
that, uh, new landscaping res striping
and repair potholes is also part of the improvements.
Uh, we believe that, uh, $20,000, uh, is what
will cost the, it'll be a cost to the petitioner.
And we take 3% of that, which, uh, turns out
to be $600 to be posted, uh,
for the, uh, performance bond.
Okay. So with that, uh, I've got one other thing here.
Under engineering, uh, they had this item, it says, uh,
outdoor seating shall require a variance.
You can remove that.
It has no bearing on this. Thank you very much.
Thank you Mr. Wirth. This is a public hearing.
Anyone would like to speak on this item, please come forth.
State your name and address for the record,
and you have three minutes to speak.
Seeing none will turn it over to the commission.
Motion to approve tut Support.
There's a motion by
Commissioner Tut, supported by Commissioner.
Ey. Any discussion?
Um, my only question to the petitioner, oh,
Okay. Go ahead Ms. Ty.
But you asked, do we have Questions? I know
My only question is to the petitioner, um, are you aware
of one of the second recommendation
that Ron read about rezoning the area
to reduce the multi-zone issue for the future? Yeah,
We don't have a problem with that.
Um, my client, Steve, the, uh, uh, the business owner
rents, so have to check
with the billing owner, but I don't think that's a problem.
It's kind of something that we've inherited.
I mean, we didn't create these multiple zones is just
what the city did or the old owner did a long time ago.
So we don't have a problem in the entire site being
obviously zoned the right way.
Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Commissioner.
Any other commissioner would like to speak?
Uh, if I may. Go ahead. Commissioner Chao, uh, Maray.
Um, I, I have a quick question regarding, um,
like a history of, uh, of the restaurant.
I know in 2019, just by looking at it, there was a site plan
to do the same idea that you're presenting right now.
Yes. Um, is there a reason why that didn't go forward
or why you decided to withdraw that plan or not complete it?
Well, I believe 2019 we had a lot of covid going on, so,
um, it wasn't possible at that time.
And now we're trying to work with the city
and bring it up to code and meet all the requirements.
That's the covid iss, the reason. Okay. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. I just wanted to know.
Thank you. Okay. Yeah, you're
Welcome.
Thank you. Anyone else to the petitioner?
Uh, I went by and I noticed the potholes
in the back parking lot.
Okay. And that's the reason we added the Yeah.
That's extra money for the potholes. Sure.
Um, 'cause if you're going to redo the parking you want to,
you don't have places where people can trip
or fall in and yeah.
So, um, Miguel's
is a pretty nice restaurant.
I've eaten there a few times and, um,
I think it's gonna be nice with the outdoor seating. Yeah.
Thank You. So thank you.
Uh, and, uh, I'll turn it over to commission.
There was a motion by commissioner t Support by Mr.
Ansari. Roll call.
Commissioner Tot. Yes. Commissioner Ansar? Yes.
Commissioner Robinson.
Yes. Commissioner Chare. Yes. Commissioner more votes?
Yes. Commissioner Beki? Yes. Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To approve. Good luck
with your project, sir. Thank you.
Thanks for your time.
I'm number six. EEE. Yeah.
Item number six, E site plan for expansion
of existing car wash
and relocation of single family dwelling.
Located at the southeast southwest corner of Van D**e
and Jackson Avenues.
2 0 8 4 3 Van D**e Avenue
and 7 6 4 4 Jackson Avenue.
Lots. 7 2 12 and 1 43.
2 1 45 of VARs Garden.
D uh, subdivision section 33,
Hassan Chara, F-F-M-H-H Inc.
And Chara Holdings llc. Karen ann slash Earl.
Earl and Rose P-L-L-C-P-S-P 2 4 0 0 1 2.
Planning staff recommends this item to be postponed
to July 8th, 2024.
Thanks, ma'am. Secretary, uh, Mr.
Wirth, do you wanna comment on this?
Yeah, Mr. Chair That,
and the reason we're saying that is that, uh,
the engineering division, uh, recommended, uh, denial, uh,
of this particular item.
And it's, uh, it'll remain that way
until they solve the problem with the 30 inch sanitary main
that runs right down the middle of that, uh, that alley.
So that is the primary reason.
One other comment is that of the
civil engineering letter that was written, number one,
it says, rezoning shall be required prior
to parcel combination.
Uh, please remove that from the record as we, uh,
go on ideally when we come back.
So with that, that's the reason.
Thank you, Mr. Wirth. Welcome.
This item is also in relation to item six A also,
and they're both being postponed to July 8th, 2024.
So I need a motion to postpone this to July 8th, 2024.
Motion to postpone support. Commissioner Childry.
There's a motion by Commissioner Beki, supported
by Commissioner Chowdry.
Roll call. Commissioner
Beki. Yes.
Commissioner Chadri? Yes. Commissioner? Yes.
Commissioner Todd? Yes. Commissioner Robinson?
Yes. To Postpone to July 8th, 2024.
Commissioner Murray Votes? Yes. Commissioner Smith,
Yes to po Postpone to July 8th, 2024.
I number six F.
Item number six F site plan for new parking lots
and open storage area for GM Global Technical Center Campus
Cole, MIC and PPO lots located west of Van D**e Avenue.
And between Chicago Road
and 12 Mile Road, 13 dash oh nine dash 400 dash
two and 13 dash oh nine dash 200 dash
0 1 2 9 7 5 5.
Lewis Chevrolet Road, section nine Rodolph Nito
Arun, general Motors,
Jason Harris slash General Motors PSP
2 4 0 0 1 3. Thank you.
Thank you Madam Secretary. Petitioner, here I am.
Good evening, sir. Tell us a little bit about your project.
Good evening, Mr. Chair and commissioners.
My name is Jason Harris.
I'm a design manager with, uh, general Motors.
Address is 2 9 7 5 5 Lewis Chevrolet.
So as you, uh, are probably aware, we had, uh, returned
to work at the beginning of this year.
Um, many of the employees
that had been at the tech center prior
and many new employees with a lot of excitement around that.
Um, prior to that, we have gone
through an extensive transformation expansion at our campus.
So with the return to work
and with some of that expansion of our workplaces,
parking is obviously at a a premium.
And, and we have found through recent studies opportunities
where we can provide more convenient parking
to those tenants in the new, uh, locations.
So what we're uh,
presenting today are two new parking lots
and one, um, outdoor store staging area to give back
existing parking spaces to the employees.
Um, we have gone through reviews with engineering,
with both the city as well as Macomb County as it relates
to stormwater management for these, these, uh, various areas
as well as, um, you know, the various reviews
with the planning commission.
So let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you, sir. Correspondence,
Correspondence, taxes, current
engineering preliminary review
of this site yelled at the following comments from
the engineering division.
Number one, this site shall comply
with the storm water ordinance of the city of Warren,
including pre-treatment.
Pre-treatment of storm water runoff.
The area disturbance is not indicated,
but if it exceeds one acre,
additional storm water requirements will need to be met, uh,
will need to be met, uh, including detention infiltration.
A stormwater narrative and operation
and maintenance agreement will be required.
All stormwater runoff shall be maintained on the site.
Number two, provide all stormwater calculations necessary
for the underground de detention using the stone
and void space.
Ensure that this system of detention can be maintained
and operate the same in the future.
Clearly show the required storm water volumes
and provided volumes.
Number three, provide area disturbance changing IMP
imperion area, pervious area by covered type
and total site area fire.
The Warren Fire Department approves this site plan.
If you have any questions,
please contact me at 5 8 6 7 5 6 2 8 0 0
with extension code 3 3 0 0 Comcast.
We have no facilities or conflicts with this proposal.
MCDR, no objections.
M the applicant's site plan does not appear
to have work in mdot s right away any work water,
main water main tap, sanitary sewer tap drainage
or drive off modifications in MDOs right away
or changes to the drainage system that
that may impacts MDOs storm water system
will require a permit. Thank you.
Thanks Madam Secretary.
Planning Department's recommendation.
All right, thank you Madam Chair. Mr. Chair. Excuse me.
Uh, the recommendation is as follows.
It is recommended that the site plan for new parking lots
and, uh, open storage area for
GM Global Technical Center campus, that's coal
and then MIC
and PPO lots be approved
with standard conditions of the planning commission.
And more specifically, uh, number one, five copies
of enlarged site plans for each parking lot project.
And that is, uh, CS one dash 0 0 2
CS one dash 0 0 3
and CS one dash 0 0 4
must be submitted indicating the following information.
Uh, a each parking lot uh, shall contain the parcel number
and address associated with the project.
And B, provide the complete length
and width measurements, uh,
for the parking lots on the plans condition.
Two five copies of revised overall site plans, uh,
must be submitted indicating the following information.
And that is a add a site data chart,
which includes campus-wide site information such
as the parcel number
and the site address of, uh, each parking lot project,
uh, the setback information, parking calculations,
and impervious calculations.
Uh, two B uh, add the uh,
stormwater narrative, uh, from the cover sheet.
That's CSO dash oh one
to the overall site plan
CS one dash 0 0 1.
Uh, the overall site plan CS one dash 0 0 1
and the enlarged site plans for each parking lot project,
uh, CS one dash uh, 0 0 2 CS one dash 0 0 3
and CS one dash 0 0 4 shall be designated the plans
used in conjunction as the site plan, uh,
condition number three, additional changes, uh,
to be included on five revised copies
of enlarged site plans for each parking lot project
CS one dash 0 0 2
CS one dash 0 0 3
and CS one dash 0 0 4 R as follows.
Uh, a the PPO lot, the concrete pad, uh,
indicates a heavy duty concrete and no striping.
If the area will be used for parking
as indicated on the landscape plan,
it shall be striped if this is
to expand the open storage in this area of the campus.
Uh, indicate this on plan CS
1 0 0 3 3
B.
Indicate the location of accessible spaces
in the MIC lot
CS one dash 0 0 4 and three C.
The sidewalk along, uh, Harlow Curtis, uh,
road appears to end approximately 250 feet east
of this redevelopment site.
Uh, consider extending the sidewalk along the south side
of Harlow Curtis Road as part of this project
to improve pedestrian access.
Indicate on the plan CS one dash 0 0 3 if the sidewalk
is to be extended.
And finally, condition number four, the performance fund.
A performance fund, the amount
of $165,000 be posted according
to the estimated cost of
$5,500,000 by the petitioner.
So with that, uh, Mr.
Chair, the recommendation is submitted. Thank you.
Thank you Mr. Worth. This is a public hearing.
If anyone would like to speak on this item,
please come down, state your name, address for the record
and you'll have three minutes to speak.
Seeing none will turn over to the commission.
Motion to approve to Support. For now, Beki,
There's a motion by Commissioner tt
supported by Commissioner Beki. Any discussion?
I believe
Good evening, sir. Can you
come up to the podium? How are you today?
I'm doing good. How are you Doing? Good.
Uh, I looked over the site
and the question I have is that where the PPO pad is going?
Yes. It says it's grass now
and you're gonna make it heavy duty concrete,
and I'm just concerned if it's gonna be parking.
Why would you have to have heavy duty concrete
or if it's gonna be s storage, what are you gonna be storing
that would require heavy duty concrete?
So, uh, we will address the comment, um,
from the planning department that this is not intended
for vehicular parking.
So it will not be parking,
it will be an outdoor staging area for the, um, PPO,
which stands for pre-production operations.
So inside that building, there's early testing
and tryout of tooling that would be going in body shops
and in a body shop there's movement of,
of body panels and parts.
So there's racks that are being brought in
and out of that, that space today that is on
concrete versus asphalt, just due to the nature
of moving those, uh, those parts in and out.
So that's the, um, requirement for the concrete and,
and we don't need it to be striped.
Okay. So those racks will be storing different parts
and that's the reason you need the ev heavy
duty concrete? Yeah,
That's correct. Yep.
Okay. Um,
I was, oh, I'm not, I was looking at the orientation
of the one building, uh, the,
uh, the Mike building.
Am I, am IC building? Yeah,
That's, uh, Michigan Innovation Center. Yes.
Okay. The had little extension out the side,
which when I looked at the, the overall site plan
of the layout of the site itself,
it looked like it might've been turned a little bit.
But if you look at this drawing, it's up now.
It shows a one big rectangle, so it doesn't show the, um,
the extension where it extends out.
But on the one drawing, it shows where it extends out.
And I just wanted to kind of correlate that to the north
or south or how, 'cause it didn't, I was looking at it
and it seemed like the long end of it was on the north side,
but then on the drawing it seemed like it was different
with, in relation to the North arrow,
You're saying the parking lot or the building?
Well, it's the parking lot in, let's see, can we go back?
Uh,
So, so there's an existing parking lot that's there today.
Right. So what we're doing is expanding that
and connecting it to the larger parking lot to the north.
Okay. So it's gonna be all one contiguous parking area
and mill and overlay the existing lot as part of the,
um, construction.
Okay. That, that explains it
Then. So I think this drawing
here was
just representing the general work area.
Alright, very good. Sir.
Can I address one of the other comments? Sure, go ahead.
Okay. So the, the, the recommendation on the park
or the sidewalk along the south side of Harlow Curtis,
although, you know, we are advocates for pedestrian mobility
around campus, we also like to minimize pathways
that pedestrians go and that that area,
because of the dock area
and the handling of, uh, that outdoor storage, you know,
it's not advisable to take pedestrians along
that section of the road.
There's really no destination for them.
So, um, we would advise not adding that,
that sidewalk right now.
All right. Thank you sir.
So, but if there is a change in the future
where you have more pedestrian traffic,
then you may have to extend the sidewalk.
Yeah, absolutely. And,
and we're actually undertaking, uh,
a revised master plan effort right now.
So we are gonna be looking at the campus as a whole,
taking into considerable vehicular and pedestrian mobility.
And as part of that we will be looking at pedestrian
circulation around the campus.
Um, but once again, you know, wanting to make sure
that it's a intentional plan
and there's a destination for the pedestrians.
Alright. Thank you sir. Thank you.
Uh, any other questions? Okay.
There was a motion by Commissioner Tut, supported
by Commissioner Beki. Roll call.
Commissioner Tut. Yes. Commissioner Beki? Yes.
Commissioner Ansar? Yes. Commissioner Robinson? Yes.
To approve Commissioner Chader? Yes. More votes?
Yes. Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To approve. Good luck with your project, sir.
Um, I'd like to make a comment, um, to take notice
of our ex officios.
I know, uh, Councilman Nunan is out there
and I saw Councilman Magee,
but I don't know where, where she went,
but I just wanted to note that they're here this evening.
Uh, item number seven, correspondence. Seeing none.
Item number eight, old business seeing none.
Item number nine, bond release. Seeing none.
Item number 10, new business
Selection of a planning hold on.
Selection of a planning commission alternate representative
to replace planning.
Commissioner Michelle TA on the following committees,
master Plan Committee
and Council of Commissions representative.
Thank you.
Thanks Madam Secretary.
In reviewing our list that we have now, um,
we have a lot of commissioners on these different committees
and in view of our shortage of commissioners,
and we're gonna be another commissioner short,
which is Commissioner Tutt.
I would like to just receive
and file this for now, so if we get new commissioners
voted in, they'll have ATI opportunity possibly
to be on some of these committees.
Okay. So right now I just want to have a motion just
to receive and file this for now.
Motion to receive and file Ecky
Support Robinson.
That was a motion by, um, Benke,
supported by Commissioner Robinson to receive a file.
All in favor, aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
Okay, I, number 11, 11, citizen participation, members
of the audience would like to speak, come up,
state your name and address
and you'll have three minutes to speak.
Seeing none. Item number 12, planning commission business.
12 a Planning, huh?
Oh, you willing to come up and speak?
I'm sorry, sir, we're back to item 11.
I didn't see the gentleman out there.
My name is Kyle Atkins.
I live at 83 16 Cadillac,
and I've lived in the city of Warren for 46 years,
but we're still here.
But anyway, what I'd like to say today,
I didn't mean to be next when I electrical,
but I got my hearing aids in and I still can't hear him.
But anyway, first of all, I want to say,
I know Mother's Day's gone back,
but I want to say Happy Father's Day
and Mother's Day.
You know, it's great today to have a father,
but I said that to lead up to this.
Not complaining, not at all.
I'm proud to be able to be here tonight,
but back a few weeks ago,
I went into a sugar coma.
The police department, my daughter called me, called 9 1 1.
And by the, the, the girl that answered the,
the the telephone said, open the front door.
And by the time she got the door open,
my fire department was walking in.
They picked me up, took me to the emergency room,
and I didn't know a thing that was going on.
I was out of it completely.
But you know what the nurse told me?
She said, you're a Merkel. Said your sugar went.
I went to 816
and said, there ain't many people comes out of it.
And you know what I told her? I said, I know I'm a Merkel.
And she sort of looked at me like this, uh,
like, are you crazy?
I said, I, I used to not be a miracle, but I said 12.
And when I was at the age of 12, the Lord saved my soul.
And I've been a miracle ever since.
But anyway, I stayed up there four days, I come home,
maybe was two days that I didn't know I was in the world.
But you know something, I'm back tonight
and I'm, I'm proud to be able to be here tonight.
I was a wondering how I was going to get to come
because the doctors tells me that I, I don't supposed
to drive at all and I can't have see after dark.
So, you know what I done?
I called a representative sitting right back there,
and he said, I'll be more than cloud
to come by and pick you up.
I'm, it's good to see.
And today, it's been a long time
since I've been up here at the Planning Commission.
But I tell you one thing,
I may not come every time it happened,
but my telephone, my television is still working.
I see what's going on in our city.
But I said this, keep up a good work. Okay?
Thank you for your time.
Thank you, sir. And we're glad you were able
to attend tonight, and we will keep you in our prayers
that you get better and, uh, maybe you'll be able
to attend a few more meetings.
I hope so. Thank you.
Have a blessed day, sir.
Item number 12, a planning director's report.
I,
Uh, thank you, Mr. Chair.
I'll be, uh, talking about the
planning director's report,
but Kyle, thanks a lot for your words.
Thanks for your words.
We have God praise, Paul.
Okay, so the first thing that, uh,
I'll do is just, it's an announcement.
Uh, the August 5th meeting will be taking place at the,
uh, community center.
We had to move over because there's a, uh,
a production going on here.
Yeah, I know to the cafeteria is where we're going,
but I said there's a production that will be going on here,
and we'll be moving over to the cafeteria.
Okay. So with that said, I'll move on to just a few things
that, uh, uh, have, uh, gone on
or places I've been, all that type
of thing in the last couple weeks.
So, um, on, uh, May 21st, I was at, uh, the Macomb
planning, uh, parks
and Rec Master plan, uh, meeting that was, uh,
pretty interesting how they do their master plans
for the Parks and Rec department.
And, uh, they wanted, uh,
I think there were about 50 people there for that.
And it was, uh, uh, very good.
Uh, Anthony from our parks
and rec department was also there.
Um, on that same day, uh, I did attend, uh,
the tree ordinance, uh, uh, meeting with, uh, uh,
Caitlin and others of the administration.
And, uh, a councilman, uh, uh, Nunan here.
And, uh, so next, uh, on the 23rd, uh, uh,
we, we then had a, a master plan committee meeting
of, uh, the, um, planning commissioners here.
We talked about the future.
We talked about, uh, how we need to, um, uh,
record what we've done, what we've accomplished, uh,
since 2021.
And, uh, after five years, we, we do a review,
a total review of what, what we've done,
what we haven't done, what we need to do,
what we don't need to do.
That's basically it. And so we'll provide a report, uh,
to the planning commission on that.
And, uh, to, uh, uh, the mayor prob probably the mayor
and probably the, uh, city council as an update on
what we're doing with our master plan.
Um, on the 28th,
I attended a city council meeting.
Uh, and that's
because I had three items there to, uh, to address.
One was the, uh, 12 mile Adler. That was the lot split.
Uh, that was first, uh, second was, uh, the Van D**e,
uh, corridor plan, and that, that got tabled,
but it's gonna be coming back tomorrow.
So anyone wants to watch and,
and listen to, uh, I believe Mr.
Bato gave, give the, uh, presentation
and we'll have the PowerPoint for the public to, uh, uh, see
as they, as they watch.
And then finally, uh, over on Globe to Nagel,
there was a public alley that, that needed an extension
by the city council.
And, uh, they were awarded that on the 29th.
Uh, we, we had a meeting
with the non-motorized transportation plan consultants,
and, uh, discussed things, uh, quite a few things with them.
We're moving right along with that, uh, plan on the 30th.
Uh, every once in a while I'll mention things
that have to do with site plans.
And Zuniga, the construction company that does work
for the city, uh, is all, is also looking to expand.
I'd say double their, the size of their site.
They're on Ryan Road at this point.
And, uh, across the road.
Uh, now I'm not gonna, I'm gonna forget the name of it.
It's not Bonanza. It was an old bow bowling alley.
I'll st I'll go with that on Ryan Road. And Bronco.
Somebody say Bronco. Okay, there it is.
So anyway, these, uh, they're looking to, uh, expand
and, um, they're within 300 feet.
There's a requirement.
And, uh, so we'll carefully try to get what we want
and what we want for the city.
And that's to, uh, make sure that, uh, those residents
to the west of this property, um, are, are not going
to be adversely affected.
Um, so then on, uh,
the 1st of June, we, uh, most of us
attended the, uh, the seminar, the planning
that offered the Planning Commission toolkit
and the site plan review booklet.
And, uh, I really enjoyed that.
The, the consultant, Doug Lewin, uh,
from Carlisle Wortman out of Ann Arbor.
And he also does the work for map,
the Michigan Association of Planning.
Uh, I think that, uh, he answered just every question,
just right, just what I expected, just what, uh, I know.
And, uh, he's been planning about one more year than I have.
So we're, we're in lockstep.
And, uh, so he provided as, as much as he could.
He tried to answer questions as clearly
as he possibly could.
Uh, we all walked away with, with the two booklets
that we can use, uh, to, uh, help us make, uh, decisions.
Help us look at those booklets if, if we're confused at all,
and, uh, help us make decisions here.
Uh, so, um, and not that it matters,
but I took six pages of notes.
I've got several things
that I wanna look into, probably change.
'cause that's what this, that's what the world's about.
Always change. And, uh, we have
to do that from time to time.
Uh, and then the only other thing notable was, uh, listening
to, uh, DDA that was on the fifth last week.
And, um, um, they went through their, their thing.
But DDA is, is a wonderful organization
and they provide a lot of funding to important things that,
uh, we have throughout this city.
Um, and, uh, the other notable thing is, is
that they're gonna replace the carpeting in our office
and God help us because we have to move everything
to get it out of the way.
It's quite a job. And, uh, our staff was there yesterday,
uh, working on that, and so was I.
And, uh, so we, we made a dent in it. Anyway.
So with that, if you have any questions, uh,
regarding anything in the last two weeks', glad to answer.
Thank you, Mr. Worth. Does
anyone have any questions for Mr.
Worth?
Don't all speak at once. No. Thank you Mr. Wirth.
Thank you very Much. Item 12 B, planning,
commission discussions and concerns.
Okay, item 12 C, discussion
of amending the Planning Commission bylaws.
And I think our city attorney, Mary Michaels, is going
to dis discuss that.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Commissioners, just wanted
to update you at several council meetings.
The bylaws of the planning commission have been
discussed at issue.
Are the rules considering ex officios?
Because council members, council appoints two ex officios
to the Planning commission, and Council has an interest in
making sure the ex officios can fulfill their role without
any inhibition.
Back in 2018, the this commission adopted bylaws
that imposed several limitations upon the conduct
of Ex ex Officios.
I wasn't involved, but my understanding is
that the commission was responding to some incidents where
the commission had to distance itself from their decisions
and any poss appearance of undue influence.
So as a result, article Section, article four was developed,
and the bylaws and Council now wants this commission
to take another look at those rules.
So I just wanted the commission to know that something,
um, I'll be working on.
I'd like to prepare a proposal and very carefully review it
before it's presented to the commission,
because I know this commission has an interest
whenever decisions are taken to court to make sure
that the commission is viewed as being,
making its decisions independent of any influence.
Because city Council,
even though the mayor appoints City Council,
confirms the commissioners,
and in effect, that's the,
that's the completion of an appointment.
So we just wanna make sure that the role
of the ex Officios is honored
and they could fulfill their responsibilities,
they in a lawful manner,
and at the same time protect the decisions
of this commission going forward.
So a lot of careful thought is being put into this,
and soon you'll be receiving a proposed
bylaw amendment. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank, thank you, attorney Michaels.
Does anybody have any questions for attorney
Michael at this
time? Seeing this, your Honor, Mr.
Mr. President? Um, if I'm not totally
Off court. Good evening. Good evening. Mr.
Councilman Newman,
Please state my name. I'm sorry, what did you say?
I said good evening, Councilman Newman. Good
Evening. Uh, thank you
so much, um, uh, through you to the, um,
members of your commission.
I would like to pass on, uh, a single page, uh, paper
to each one of you for consideration of, uh,
what I'm looking at regarding the bylaws.
Okay? Thank you. Is all right.
You wanna leave it with Michelle? Oh, great.
Thank you so much. That's all.
Thank you, sir. Have a good evening.
I'm glad, I'm glad this is coming up. Thank you so much.
Thank you. Item number
13, calendar pending matters.
Seeing none at this time. I, number 14,
File.
No, we'll wait until she brings it back.
Item number 14, adjournment. I need a motion to adjourn.
Motion to adjourn. I can't hear you. Motion to Aurn.
Motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn. Support.
Support, support. All in favor, aye. Aye. Any opposed?
Have a good evening. Thank you. You too.