Good evening.
Welcome to the City War
and Planning Commission meeting of September 23rd.
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and to the, the Republic which it stands,
one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice.
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Roll call. Roll call.
Commissioner Anza. Commissioner Ey
Present. Commissioner
Hollow. Commissioner Haw.
Commissioner Childry Present. Commissioner Maurice Present.
Commissioner Beki Present. Commissioner Smith
Present.
Uh, commissioner Hollow Wadi called
and said he wouldn't be able to make it.
Um, so I need a motion to excuse Commissioner Awadi.
So moved Mr. Chairman. So moved.
Uh, to excuse Commissioner Ti
Support Maury.
Support Maury. All in favor? Aye. Aye.
Uh, we didn't, haven't heard from, uh, ANSA or,
Or Commissioner Hoke.
So, um, we won't recognize him.
Maybe they got in the parking lot terminal out there.
It's very packed on. We'll just hold off on them. Yeah.
Alright. Um, number four, approval
of the minute of the agenda.
Motion to approve the minutes. Support.
Commissioner Childry.
There's a motion by Commissioner Beki,
support by Commissioner c Childry.
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
Approval of the minutes of September 9th, 2024.
A motion to approve the minutes. Mr. Chairman, DJA
Support Beki Does the motion by Commissioner dse.
Support by Commissioner Beki. All in favor a Aye Aye.
Any opposed? Okay. Public hearing items.
Uh, first I'm gonna recognize, uh,
our ex official com.
Councilman Newnan
and I don't know if, uh,
Councilwoman McGee is here.
There she is. She is. Well, welcome this evening.
Okay, item number six a
Item number six, a special land use
for bank hall located on the east side of Quida Road.
Approximately 255 feet south of 11 Mile Road.
2 6 7 6 8 DDA Road.
2 6 8 0 0 DDA Road section 19.
Tamara Owens Wan, Twan Ding and Saigon Center.
L-L-C-P-S-L-U 2 4 0 0 0 2. Thank you.
Thank you Madam Secretary. Good evening. Good evening.
Can you tell us a little bit about your project?
Um, thank you for having me this evening.
So I'm looking to open an event venue at that address.
The event venue will host, um, multiple events such
as birthday parties, baby showers, proposals, um, anything
that we can think of that we can bring under that
building to celebrate.
Um, I'm gonna have people basically paying
to host events there.
I'm also gonna try to work with the community
and to do community events there,
small community events if possible.
The space is about 2,600 square feet.
It was previously occupied as a ocu.
Um, um, uh, I'm sorry,
it was previously a, um, optical center
and I'm looking to turn it into the banquet facility.
The facility will not, um, sell any alcohol.
All events will end at 12:00 AM.
Um, any events that are being hosted
after 6:00 PM will require security to be there
and I'll also have an event attendant at all
of the events that are being handled.
Alright, thank you. Correspondence,
Correspondence, taxes, current
engineering preliminary review of this site, yelled at,
no comments from the engineering division fire.
The Warren Fire Department approves this site plan.
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Thank you.
Thank you. Uh, planning department's recommendation.
Excuse me, I'm sorry.
It's alright. Thank you.
Uh, thank you Mr. Chair. The recommendation is as follows.
It is recommended that the special land use permit
for the banquet hall be approved by city council
with the standard conditions of the planning commission.
Uh, and more specifically, number one, five copies of, uh,
revised site plans must be submitted
indicating the following.
Uh, a indicate the dimensions, uh,
from the existing building to the property lines.
Uh, one B, uh, provide, uh,
parking requirement calculation on the site plan.
One space for every 300 square feet
required 238 parking spaces.
Condition number two, the owner of the shopping center
must provide a recorded document for ingress
and egress with the property owner abutting to the north.
Uh, this document must be approved in draft format for form
by the, uh, city attorney prior to it being recorded.
Uh, at the McComb County Register of Deeds, a copy
of the document, uh, shall be
provided to the planning department.
Condition Number three, per field check of the site.
There are some property maintenance concerns
as several items were observed behind the building planning.
Staff believes that these concerns are the responsibility
of the building owner
and not the petitioner for the banquet hall.
However, these items must be addressed.
Planning staff will mail a letter, uh, to the, uh,
property owner notifying them of the violations on the site.
Notations, uh, addressing the issues below, uh,
shall be provided on the site plan.
So with that, a, all of the trash
and debris located behind the building shall be removed.
Uh, the dumpsters, uh, are overfilled,
the trash is all over the ground.
Three B, the donation bin boxes
located in the front setback area, that's Quida Road, uh,
will be removed from the site.
Trash was observed piled next to the bins.
They're not permitted in commercial districts
and shall be removed from the site
and noted on the site plan
three C the cart corrals in the parking lot are broken
and shall be repaired or removed.
3D the pallets lined up along the lawn area,
that's the south property line shall be removed.
Three e the parking bumper, excuse me,
the parking bumper blocks located along the front.
That's Quida Road shall be reset in front
of each parking space and, uh, removed from the lawn area.
And three f remove any inoperable trucks
or trailers from the parking lot.
C two General Business district does not permit open storage
and these items must be removed.
Condition number four, uh, the special land use permit, uh,
should be approved as the request meets
or exceeds the standard set, uh, excuse me, stated
in section 22 point 14 B.
And that's one A through F
and that would be
also three A through C.
Condition number five, the special land use permit approval,
uh, is obtained from City Council.
The petitioner must complete all conditions within a two
year period, or the approval
by city council shall be automatically revoked.
And number six, a performance bond.
The amount of $500 be posted as parking lot and law
and improvements are part of the condition.
So with that, uh, Mr.
Chair, the recommendation is submitted. Thank you.
Thank you. Mr. Wirth.
I wanna recognize there are two commissioners that came in.
I guess they got stuck in the parking lot.
Commissioner hope. Commissioner on. Sorry. Welcome.
Alright, this is a public hearing.
If anyone like to speak on this item, please come up,
state your name and address for the record
and you'll have three minutes to speak.
Seeing none will turn over to the commission.
I Need a motion. Motion to
Approve, Um, support, uh, with discussion.
There was a motion by Commissioner Eckley, supported
by Commissioner dse with discussion.
Go ahead, commissioner dse.
Uh, thank you Mr. Chairman.
Um, a couple of things on the recommendation.
Um, there is a driveway to that,
um, uh, kitchen
or remodeling joint, uh, on the north side
of the parking lot that he's got a driveway into,
into the parking lot.
Uh, that's addressed in, in a letter that we just got.
Um, is that, should that be made a portion
of the recommendations?
Yeah, please.
Okay. Uh, commissioner Doze, you're, you're speaking
of a driveway from the site, the overall site
north to, um, the service drive
or 11 mile road. Is that correct?
No, no, no, no. There's, there's a kitchen
remodeling place just to the north of the parking lot.
Um, alright. I don't, well, there's, alright.
You've got the veterinarian.
Uh, no, it's towards qui from there.
Okay. Alright. I understand.
I, and what, what's, okay. Apparently they've got,
They've got a driveway into the parking lot.
That's right. They do. Is there, is, is there a cross,
is there an access agreement or something?
Uh, that's the second one that they should have
that you've just identified. Yeah.
Uh, So we'll make note of that
And, uh, I think that would be a good thing
to put into the recommendations, just
so everybody's on the same
Page. Absolutely. Absolutely.
Yeah, that's needed.
Um, Any other,
Well, There's things you might have found.
Uh, I had the pleasure of, uh, commissioner and sir,
and I, uh, went through all this.
Um, I was surprised at the amount of crash
that was on the East Edge along the, um, uh, fence.
But the print shows one dumpster and we counted three
and I don't know what that, that long one.
Yeah, one of the dumpster is a, is a big one.
And, um, probably south side of the, uh, uh, building.
We, so in the, the blueprint we saw one should be there,
but we found three of them.
And, uh, behind the building we didn't see any, any,
you know, uh, sign parking, you know, sign there,
commissioner, and there was a lot
of trash, uh, uh, there too.
Commissioner Ansar. Okay. I know you're working Mr.
dse, but he had the floor,
So Oh, okay.
Oh, okay. You were just, you know,
So not a problem, Mr. Chairman, you,
You can, you can speak on it, but let him finish it
and then you can make your comment.
He asked me question, that's why I, I,
No, I understand. I underst thank you.
Well, it's, it's there, there's a huge,
there's a very long dumpster
and I don't know if it's a dumpster
or a shredder in front of it or what,
but counting that one, there's four dumpsters back there.
Yeah. Um, do the, is there something that says
that they can have this many dumpsters that you know of?
Well, typically there probably should be a dumpster
for each, uh, business that's in the building,
in the shopping center.
Alright, that makes sense. Not just, not just one dumpster.
So that would be corrected
and uh, they, they need to show where the locations are.
Alright. Um, and last
but not least, um, for the petitioner,
um, uh, the,
this is 20 feet wide.
Um, you don't plan on cooking anything there.
Is it all gonna be catered if you have a party there?
So I'm not adding a kitchen.
There is no kitchen currently there.
I do not plan on cooking myself.
Um, for anyone that wants to host an event where they
would want food to be served,
then they can either have someone bring in the food from
outside or they can hire a caterer
that can bring in food from outside.
Um, but there will be no cooking being
done in that facility.
Okay. That's what I wanted to know.
Uh, thank you Mr. Chairman.
Thank you. Commissioner Duhe. Go ahead. Commissioner Anza,
I have a question.
Is it 20 foot wide and 60 feet? Right.
So do you think it's enough for the, uh, banquet hall?
Yes. So with the, I don't plan on having any more than,
um, 80 to 85 people there.
Um, so that's standing and sitting.
Um, we, but I also plan on removing one of the rooms
that's there to open up that space.
There's a room that's there that kind of cuts into the space
and that room will be removed to allow for, um, a wider,
So 80 to 80 pipe, uh, sitting space will be there.
Yes. So no, no kitchen, as you mentioned
that there will be no kitchen.
So food will there, they can do the catering from outside.
Right. So there will be a kitchenette that I want
to add in there, but that would just consist
of a small refrigerator, a microwave,
and a counter for prep.
But no food, no stove, um, no one will be allowed
to cook in that facility.
They can bring in food
that they prepared at home on their own
or they can hire a caterer
and then at that point the caterer would then come in
and bring the food that's already prepared.
Alright. Thank you. Thank you.
Anyone like to speak on else like to speak on this item
through the petitioner?
Good evening. Have you checked with the fire marshal to see
what the occupancy, uh, requirement is for that building?
I have not. That might be one thing you wanna do
because you, it's only, like I said, it's only 20 feet wide
and it's, even though it's 120 feet long,
you put 80, 85 people in there,
it's gonna be a lot of congestions.
And if you have to set up a table
or something like that, you're cutting down the
space where somebody's gonna stand.
Uh, so I would check with the fire marshal
and just see exactly what you're allowed as far
as occupancy in that building.
Okay. Thank to make sure you don't go over that limit.
Okay. Okay. Anybody else have any questions?
Thank you. Okay, thank you.
That was a motion by Commissioner Benicky, supported
by Commissioner dse. Roll call.
Commissioner Beki. Yes. Commissioner Doe? Yes.
Commissioner Ansar?
Yes. Commissioner Hawk? Yes. Commissioner Ry? Yes.
Commissioner Uri Es. Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To approve. Thank you. Have a good evening.
Good luck with your project item
number six B,
Item number six B.
Um, site plan, four sheets, gas station
and convenience store with drive through,
located on the southwest corner of Van D**e and Ham Avenue.
3 1 9 2 5 Van Eck Avenue, section four.
Ashley, Nathan, uh, and Silken Gold.
Nicholas LDA, LDA self storage L-L-C-P-S-P
2 4 0 0 1 7. Thank you.
Thank you. Is the petitioner here this evening?
Good evening, sir.
I'm gonna tell us a little bit about the project.
Good evening. Uh, David Brockel Meyer Rashe,
3 9 300 West 12 Mile Road, Farmington Hills, Michigan.
Uh, it's good to be back in front of you tonight.
Thank you for having us here tonight.
Um, we're excited to present
another site in the city of Warren.
Um, and as we pull up the screen here,
start the presentation.
Uh, if you could move to the next slide please.
So just a quick reminder, I'd like to go
through a little bit about Sheets.
I know I was here a month ago
and we talked a little bit
about it, but just a quick reminder.
Um, so Sheets was started in 1952, central Pennsylvania, uh,
family run, family operated,
and we are still that way today.
Uh, we really have a heavy restaurant focus.
Um, we have convenience items as well as fuel at all
of our 750 plus locations.
And again, still family owned, family operated, uh,
with no franchisees.
Next slide please. Just a reminder, uh, a few
of the things we offer at our stores.
Foresighted, you know, high quality architecture
that really is pleasing to the eye.
It gives a premium look to the building.
It's something that communities love to have come in
because we just set the new standard for
how our, our buildings look.
Uh, in addition to that, we offer outdoor dining at all
of our locations up to 16 seats, or sorry, 19 seats.
Um, and then throughout the building
and as well as the outside high quality building finishes
and materials, A
little bit of focus on the restaurant on the inside.
On on the left you can see 30 interior seats.
We really, truly are a restaurant. Uh, we focus on that.
People come in, grab lunch, uh, grab breakfast,
shoot a couple emails out on our free wifi,
and they really come in.
It's, it's really a community space where they can come
and enjoy a meal and, and be on their way.
And then some of the innovation we do at Sheets, uh, along
with our restaurant is the Touchpad ordering menu.
That was something that Sheets pioneered in the, uh,
in the convenience industry.
So, um, those are some of the offerings
of just our restaurant.
And again, reiterating the restaurant, it is a full service,
24 7, 365, uh, kitchen.
So if you would like a breakfast sandwich in the afternoon,
that's you, you can get all that anytime of the day.
Uh, in addition to that, we have a full service, coffee bar,
espresso, all kinds of milkshakes, um, healthy smoothies,
like all those kinds of things are available at this
restaurant portion of our business, as well
as our convenience item on the right side,
we really do have an incredible rave.
Convenience items that are all, I mean,
it's the top notch of what you could ever want.
So anything you want, we've got it.
A couple of things about sheets.
We really are focused on being a good neighbor,
a good business in the cities that we operate.
Um, we donate to all kinds of organizations, both locally
and, and, you know, on a large basis, special Olympics, um,
you know, food, uh, food banks like, uh, forgotten Harvest.
Uh, we donate to Big Brothers, big Sisters, uh,
and then even more on a local scale.
We donate to things like schools
and we donate to all kinds of things like t-ball, uh,
associations and, you know, the kids' soccer team
and all kinds of things like that to support, uh,
our communities on a local basis.
Um, and again, we are 24 7, 365.
We have a focus on security.
We have security plans for all of our locations.
Uh, our store managers
and our store team members are all trained in security.
Um, we also have cameras that are monitored 24 7 365.
And again, that's just really an investment in the
communities in which we operate to try to make sure
that we are doing our part to keep our communities safe.
Just to touch on one more thing,
sheets is really a big partner in the EV industry.
Um, so we're Tesla's number one third party vendor.
We have over a hundred Tesla charging stations
or charging locations around the entire country, so
that makes us number one, or sorry, around the east coast,
so that makes us number one in the country.
Um, along with that, with our push into Southeast Michigan,
we're bringing multiple EV partners in.
It's hard to, to gauge
and guarantee this early in the site plan approval whether
we're going to be able to bring an EV partner,
but we are actively searching out EV partners at every one
of the sites that we're looking at.
So this one included.
So we're gonna have a potential
for EV in the future at this location.
Next slide please. Moving into a few of the site details.
So the site that you saw last month was a
little bit different from this one.
Um, this site does have a drive-through,
so it is a 61 39 square foot building sitting on 3.32 acres.
Uh, this one has seven fuel pumps, uh,
and then of course above ground detention,
which is different from the other site that you saw.
So what you're seeing is a little bit less
of a dense layout.
This one has a little bit more room to work with.
We've got above the above ground storage
and some other, uh, a ability to move
around the site a little bit with the site plan.
Next slide please. Something I want to reiterate.
You know, we, we've met all of the conditions
of the landscaping where we will be able to meet all
of the conditions of the landscaping requirements
per the city's ordinances.
Um, right now we, this is a variance free plan other than
the variances we are going to ask for,
for the dumpster height, which is not necessary to build it,
it's just something we'd like to do
to offer a better looking dumpster enclosure.
Uh, and then one of the city's ordinances
for a drive-through restaurant in particular requires a four
foot chain link fence around the entire site.
Instead of doing a four foot chain link fence,
what we'd like to do is offer increased vegetation
landscaping to mitigate that.
Um, so really it's not necessary we could go
and build the fence, but instead we'd rather
offer landscaping.
Next slide please. And again, just
to reiterate our foresighted architecture, we're gonna go
through the elevations a little bit.
Um, you know, this is the front of our building.
It is full of glazing and transparency
and, uh, high quality brick sections.
Um, it's, it's something that we really take pride in.
So this is the look of the building that you would see.
Next slide, please. You can skip that one as well.
Uh, just to give you a glimpse of the fueling canopy,
this is what you're really gonna be looking at.
So really a high, uh, quality finished best in class,
uh, fuel canopy.
It's got stone veneer on the bottom.
It's got architectural metal trusses to give it
that really good appeal, uh, from the road.
And this is, that's what it's gonna look like.
Just a quick view of the lighting plan.
We have gone so far as to do a lighting design.
We are going to be able to comply
with the city's ordinances with this lighting design.
And then really just a last look at
what our finished product is gonna look like.
It really is a premium, premium offer, premium look,
and that's what we're excited
to bring to the city of Warren.
Um, there's a few other slides if you'd like to move
through those a little bit so people can see
just a quick view from the street, what our,
our fuel canopy looks like
and another picture of the inside.
And with that, that's, that's really all we've got.
Um, we appreciate you having us here tonight.
I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have.
Um, thank you.
Thank you sir. Correspondence,
Correspondence, Texas current
engineering preliminary review of this site.
Yelled at the following comments
from the engineering division.
Number one show
and identify the location
of this existing slash proposed water stops water stop box,
including the water service lead.
Number two, show
and identify the location
of the existing slash proposed sanitary cleanout.
Number three site out site plan shall show
and identify all existing city of Warren
and underground utilities si sizes
and connections in the vicinity of the project.
Um, number four site shall comply with the current city
of city of Warren Storm ordinance.
In this entirety, show
and identify the location of your proposed
bio retention basin.
Provide a detailed storm narrative.
Number five, propose outdoor seating shall require a
variance number six in construction within Van D**e Avenue.
ROW shall require a permit from MO Fire.
The Warren Fire Department approves this site plan.
If you have any questions,
please contact me at 5 8 6 7 5 6 2 8 0 0
with extension code 3 3 0 0 Comcast.
In response to your utility request for the above project,
please refer to the test map map for the location of Comcast
CTV slash F-I-B-E-R facilities.
Aerial cables are highlighted in orange for fiber
and yellow for coast cable.
Underground is highlighted in blue for fiber
and green for K cable.
If we can be of further assistance, please feel free
to contact us by email at
ccc utility request@teamsigma.com.
And D-T-E-D-T-E electric company has reviewed the site
plan for sheets, gas station
and convenience store with drive
through DT e has no objection
to this request impacting 3 1 9 2 5 Van D**e Avenue section
four per the site plan provided.
As long as all right aways and easements stay intact.
If you have any questions,
please do not feel free to hesitate.
Please do not hesitate
to contact me at
5 8 6 7 8 3 1 9 7 8 M.
There is work on M dots right away, so a permit is required.
Please reach out to Shafi Alzo, uh, E Alzo
s@michigan.gov if you have any questions.
He's the permit engineer out of our McComb office
and should be able to take care of you.
MCPW. Please be advised that this letter is
for comment in relation to right away
and county drain easements only this office,
this office would have no objection
to off the above project.
There is not a county drain
or easements on subject property.
However, prior to a site plan approval, any proposed project
that is under the jurisdiction
of this office shall apply the Macomb County Public Works
office design standard.
It is advisable to schedule an engineering meeting
with this office to discuss how our standards may apply.
To schedule a meeting with this office,
please contact Heather dot more@macombgov.org.
Please contact this office should you have any questions.
5 8 6 4 6 9 5 9 1 0. Thank you
Ma'am. Secretary, we
have a couple letters.
We wanna read it in the correspondence also.
That's good. I'll read the whole thing.
Yeah, just the letter. This, this part. Right. Okay.
Um, this is a letter
and uh, from Scott Barett, the Barett organization
reaching out today in regards
to the proposed sheets on Van D**e,
I'm sure you have been hearing from many concerned
citizens and business owners.
This is obviously a major concern for me being located,
located so close to it nationwide,
there has been many instances where she has come in
and literally put several stations out
of business within the surrounding areas.
When these smaller stations go dark, they sit forever due
to contamination on site.
No law in Michigan requires a cleanup which would leave
underground storage tanks possibly leaking
for a very long time as it would have been too costly to try
to redevelop the site.
Safety is also an issue with their 24 hour operation.
I had, I had shootings
and robberies at my 24 hour sites in the past,
which had me start closing at every, every one of them.
Just not worth it.
Sheets would attract trouble from many, many miles away.
Michigan has always been an independent market
for gas station and is very saturated to begin with.
I really hope the commission is taking these concerns into
consideration when this comes up in front of them.
I see they have already approved Mount Road
and believe one is plenty.
Please let me know your thoughts
and early indications on how planning is expected to vote.
Thanks again. And, um, we have another letter,
this, this also a letter.
Okay. Um, hello, my name is Wayman Heti.
I am the financial secretary at UAW Local 1 5 5,
located in Warren at 7 4 2 0 Ham Ham.
Our local represents, uh, 53 units slash facilities.
Over 5,500 members. We have concerns about two things.
Number one, traffic.
The traffic on Van D**e in between 13 mile
and 14 mile road already already experiences traffic jumps
daily and a new service station would will
cause more traffic jump.
Most days it takes six to 10 minutes to go north
or south on Van D**e, we ask that a traffic
traffic light gets placed at the corner of Ham
and Vandyke to remedy the traffic concern.
Number two LTL trucks, parking
and cutting through the sheet station usually have trucks
with trailer parking overnight,
which may cause some illicit activities among other things.
Also, the truck may find it convenient to cut
through our local parking lot.
Thank you for your consideration on these issues. Thank you.
Thank you ma'am. Secretary, um,
plain Department's recommendation.
Thank you Mr. Chair. The recommendation is as follows.
It is recommended that the site plan
for a sheets gas station
and convenience store with drive-through restaurant, uh,
be approved with the standard conditions
of the planning commission and more specifically,
number one, five copies
of revised site plans must be submitted
indicating the following.
Uh, one a uh, update the zoning information on the site plan
and the site data chart to read.
Uh, M1 Light Industrial District, that's the
East 400 feet of the site
and M two medium light, uh, industrial district.
And that's the West 54 feet of the site.
And located within the downtown development, excuse me,
downtown development authority,
otherwise known as the DDA One B.
Uh, there are several items missing from the site plan sheet
C3 that must be added.
Number one, a location map.
Number two, the parcel identification number and address.
Number three, a legal description.
Number four, bearings
and distances along the property lines.
Number five, utility information existing and proposed.
Number six, storm water narrative
as 3.20 acres have been indicated
as the disturbance area.
And, uh, number seven dimensions for canopy, uh,
over the gas pumps shall be
provided on the plan
one c label the drive through clearance bar,
the drive through order board,
and the excuse me menu board on the site plan
one DA cross hatched area measuring two feet in width
and 150 feet in length.
That represents, uh, the west edge
of the drive-through lane.
This area shall not be represented, uh,
by a painted cross hatch.
This area shall be a two foot wide six inch high,
150 foot long raised concrete curb labeled
and dimension on the plan.
One EA stop sign
and a no right turn symbol sign
shall be installed at the south end of the curb line.
Uh, note it is, uh, impractical to permit
a right turn at this angle point
and maneuver, excuse me, a maneuvering curve area.
One f uh, note shall be
provided on the site plan indicating the following devices,
uh, for transmission of or projection of voices
or music shall be so directed
or covered as to prevent said sounds of music, uh,
from being audible, uh, beyond the boundaries of the site.
One GA note shall be
provided on the site plan stating all lighting
provided on the underside of the canopy
for the gasoline pumps shall be recessed and flush mounted.
One HA note shall be
provided, uh, on the site plan stating open storage
of materials shall not be permitted on the site.
When I update the parking calculation
to include a line item for the outdoor retail sales,
which is one parking space, uh, per 300 square feet
and the outdoor seating area,
one parking space per 200 square feet.
Update the parking requirement based on, uh,
the revised square footages one j uh,
in all references to, uh, parking on the site plan.
Remove the word handicap
and replace it with accessible one K.
Both of the existing driveways along ham shall be indicated
on the plan and noted that one driveway will be replaced
and the west driveway shall be removed
and replaced with, uh, straight street curbing
and landscaping materials.
One LA pedestrian walkway is, uh, proposed, uh,
from the public sidewalk along Van D**e Avenue
south of the new driveway.
The following changes shall be provided.
Number one, the walkway intersection
with the public sidewalk is indicated at an angle.
The walkway, uh, shall be located perpendicular
to the public sidewalk on the plan.
And number two, the walkway is designed with a 90 degree,
90 degree turn.
The 90 degree turn shall be redesigned
with a 10 foot radii curve on the plan.
Uh, one MA second pedestrian walkway shall be
provided on the plan as follows.
Number one, the walkway shall begin at the northeast corner
of the front walkway to the building.
Uh, the walkway shall be indicated
through parking spaces number 19 and 29.
The area between the two spaces shall be
cross hatched, excuse me.
Number two, the walkway shall continue north
and through the drive through lane
and grass areas to intersect the East west public
sidewalk along ham.
Number three, the final part
of the walkway shall be from the public sidewalk
to Ham Avenue to the Ham Avenue
concrete curb line with the walkway to
and in line with the walkway
to the public sidewalk across the roadway
and indicated on the plan.
Number two, two copies of, uh, revised floor plans shall be,
excuse me, floor plans changing the title of sheet
A 40 from, uh, equipment plan to floor plan
condition number three, two copies
of elevation plans must be submitted indicating the
following, and that is indicate the directional information
on the elevation plans.
Elevation plans shall be indicated as north, south, east,
and west.
Condition number four,
the planning commission currently retains
a performance surety bond that's bond number
1 0 0 2 1 5 1 4 1 in the amount of
$66,000.
As a guarantee for site improvements.
Upon the approval of the current site plan, we would require
the petitioner to withdraw this past project
and request the bond to be released.
Number five, uh, permits, uh, shall be required from
Mdot for work in the Van D**e.
Right of way Number six,
the petitioner must provide a recorded document for ingress
and egress parking with the owner
of the property abutting to the west.
That is 74 20 Ham Avenue.
If access is to remain,
this document must be approved in draft form format for form
by the, um, city attorney prior
to it being recorded at the Macomb County Register of Deeds.
A copy of the document shall be
provided to the planning department condition number seven.
The following variances are required, are recommended, uh,
by the planning staff
and may need to be obtained from the Board of Appeals prior
to the release of the site plan to the building division.
And that is a waive, the
four foot high chain link fence to completely enclo,
excuse me, to completely enclose the use per section
14.01 K four
and seven B uh, to construct a trash enclosure
with eight foot high walls instead of six feet high walls.
And finally, number eight, a performance bond in the amount
of $237,000 be posted according
to the estimated cost of $7,900,000
by the petitioner.
So with that, uh, Mr.
Chair, the recommendation is submitted.
Thank you. Mr. W Thank you. This is a public hearing.
Anyone like to speak on this item? Please come up.
State your name and address for the record
and you'll have three minutes to speak.
Are you going in order of people who approached you?
Seeing none.
Does anyone wanna come up to speak on this item? Yeah,
There are a number of people
who submitted their names for public comment.
Okay. We don't call The names. Nobody come up.
So you representing the people. Do you have the names for
Good Evening?
Uh, my name is Faye Nuer.
I am the CEO of the MENA American Chamber of Commerce.
MENA stands for Middle East and North Africa.
You might be wondering why the CEO of a Chamber
of Commerce is here addressing you on the establishment
of a site plan for a gas station.
Um, the people behind me here, the business owners
are the true family owned businesses.
Uh, the gentleman from Sheets,
the representative from sheets referred to sheets
as a family owned business.
So is Ford Motor Company Sheets is worth
7.5 billion in annual revenue.
And the individuals here, I can, I can attest none
of them are worth 7.5 billion.
So they're already at a disadvantage. Why am I here?
Sheets plans, um, a very aggressive rollout of 60
to 80 gas stations.
So it's not just the one or two that they've put
before you in the city of Warren, there are many more
that are forthcoming.
They have retained the services of, uh,
three lobbyists, one state, one local,
and one to serve as a backup.
They have also utilized unethical business practices
by retaining the services of the 12 largest planning
and zoning law firms in the state of Michigan,
thereby putting the residents here
and the business owners at a disadvantage if they wanted
to retain said law firms
because those law firms are conflicted.
Um, so the individuals
behind me are already at a disadvantage.
It is not a level playing field.
The value proposition that is put forth by sheets is
that they are generating revenue.
They are not generating incremental revenue.
They are cannibalizing revenue from the
individuals to my right.
They mention that they are creating jobs,
they are not creating jobs,
they are reallocating jobs from these individuals
to the stations.
They mention EV chargers as being a competitive advantage.
The individuals to my right are also installing EV chargers
by the help of the Federal Highway Administration.
And MDOT is also providing incentives
for EV charger installation.
So the value proposition
that they're putting forward is very disingenuous.
It is, uh, what we call wooden nickels
or wood wooden pennies.
Um, you know, you from your right pocket
to your left pocket type
of scenario from a financial, uh, standpoint.
Um, so again, my point
of contention from a planning standpoint and what I put
before you and I want you to look through,
through those documents.
Um, the gentleman that submitted a WR communication,
Steve Barback, he mentioned
that the market is already saturated.
Um, in fact, there are four gas stations for every 10,000
residents, which is a higher average than uh,
your neighboring counties.
Uh, to name a few.
Oakland counties is one of them,
Wasaw and Livingston Counties.
So you are already higher than average than those counties
in terms of saturation of gas stations.
Um, in addition to that, what I've submitted, uh,
exhibit 0 1, 2, and three, those are all gas stations.
Uh, the first one is 0.9 miles to its south of the
proposed site location.
The second one is 0.6 miles also to its south.
The third one is 0.4 miles to its west,
and the fourth one is 0.1 miles to its north.
It is within walking distance to this gas station.
Uh, the exhibit four
and five demonstrate the mdot, uh, traffic, uh,
counts within that region that are already addressed
by existing gas stations
that I referenced in my earlier exhibits And Exhibit six,
if you look at the Van D**e corridor,
that's the violent crime per capita and worn.
If you look at just Van D**e, do you see the Van D**e area?
So red is the highest violent crime per capita. Can you
Wrap up your comments please?
Of course. So
that might be, um, the violent crime
that I mentioned is 32% higher than the national average,
and that might be why the mayor appointed
the new police commissioner.
Um, Eric Hawkins
and I asked this commission to take that into consideration.
I know you have a few new members, um, you know,
commissioner Andre, uh, commissioner Michael
and Sha Commissioner Sed.
I ask you to take the new wave of, um,
progression that is happening through the city of Warren
and welcome, um, initiatives such
as the event planning business
or the, uh, banquet hall business, uh, not adding
to an oversaturated market, especially one that is going
to harm and be detrimental to existing businesses
that are in your constituency. Thank you.
Thank you. I actually one last remark.
It's been 12 years since sheets expanded from Pennsylvania.
One question you two need
to ask yourself is why now and why here?
Thank you. Thank
You.
Good evening. Good evening. My name, my name is Na Sidiki.
One thing the she's presentation failed
to mention was the census crimes committed at all.
The sheet stations are on the rise as recently
as 10 days ago, there was a homicide at a,
at a she's gas station after midnight.
Another thing that the Sheet's presentation failed
to mention was that the E-E-E-O-C has an op, uh,
the Equal US Equal Op Employment Opportunity Commission has
charged sheets with inappropriate hiring practices
that disproportionately screen out blacks
and multiracial applicants.
The city of Warren's gas station owners
behind me have longstanding
and authentic relationship with customers
and local organizations.
We are literally the cornerstone in of the neighborhoods
and the cities we operate in.
Now, the city of Warren will potentially approve
multiple sheets, fuel stations that sell sheets.
Gas stations sell gas at 50 to 60 cents below competitors.
The gas stations that have supported the city of Warren
will not be able to survive that.
These gas station owners have supported the city of Warren
through good times and in bad,
and have worked relentlessly to stay in business.
The city of Warren's population has continued to decrease.
Gas demand continues to decrease,
and the city of Warren is seeking to add more gas stations.
How many local gas stations will go out of business?
I would like to kindly request the Planning Commission
and the City of Warren officials to make the right
and logical decision by its residents,
by its local businesses.
I requested decision makers make, take the lead set
by the city of Frazier, Rochester Hills, Lavonia,
Madison Heights,
and reject the sheet's proposal at both locations.
Thank you.
Thank you. Anyone else like to speak on this item?
Good evening. Good evening.
Uh, Mr. Chairman, that is a very important,
Can you speak a little closer to the mic so we
Can hear you? Can you hear me? Is
this better? Yes, sir.
Yes. Better. Thank you. Yes, Mr.
Chairman Sheets, forget to mention
that they do not buy from any vendor.
They have their own wholesalers.
They get their product through their trucks.
So on top of them, her in deceased stores, the gas stations,
the people who been in Warren all this time,
they're gonna go further and hurt the distributors
and the sales reps and the vendors
and whoever helps Warren all this time.
Thank you.
Anyone else like to speak on this item?
Good evening. My name is Ali at Justice.
Six eight three seven Chase Road, Dearborn, Michigan.
Uh, I oppose the approval, approval
of the Sheets gas station like many others here.
My family has two gas stations in Warren City
and I'm a second generation operator.
So we have deep roots in this city
and we've been here for decades.
And I think allowing a company like Sheets
to enter the market could definitely have a detrimental
effect on, on the independent operators,
especially considering this is a business that's primarily
the, uh, owned by independent operators
of 120,000 gas stations in the us.
65% is, is independently operated.
When you shrink that down to Michigan, that
that number gets even bigger, especially in an area
of southeast Michigan where we have the highest
concentration of, uh, the number of gas stations
in three counties is on the list of the top 25.
So Wayne McComb and, uh, Monroe,
or sorry, uh, Oakland are in the top 25.
Um, when it comes to store count,
we're not opposing competition.
Competition and growth.
I mean, I've been here before to try to get, uh,
a station approved, but there's a difference when it's on
the same scale between each other
versus a company like Sheets.
They can try to advertise, uh, sell themselves
as a family owned business all day long.
But at the end of the day, when you have 700 plus stores,
you're, you're corporate.
They're, they run like a corporate company
and they have the tools, the capital
and the resources to put, you know,
operators like us out of business.
And they call that the Walmart effect.
And this is why Walmart has gotten a, um,
denied in many cities they've tried to enter in the past.
Uh, I also question the strategy of Sheets.
I mean, like Faye mentioned, this is the first market
to enter in 13 years.
Why Southeast Michigan when it's one
of the he most heavily saturated markets in in the country?
Um, I've seen some of the sites that they've tried
to get approved at other cities
and municipalities, you know,
with two existing stations on the same corner
or a handful of sites within a square mile.
I mean, they're clearly trying
to take business away from others.
And at the, at the end
of the day, that's what's gonna happen.
It's gonna leave, uh,
independently run operators to go out of business.
And then you're gonna have dormant sites.
Gas stations tend to stay the properties for gas stations.
They tend to stay dormant for years
because of the cleanup costs associated with it.
And they just become a eyesore for the cities.
So we hope that, um, you deny this application,
but ultimately I think it's up to you as a municipality
to decide whether you're in support of, um, business
and economic growth through the community
that has deeper roots
or through a company that's gonna come in
and pay the highest tax assessment. Thanks.
Thank you sir.
Anyone else like to come and speak on this item?
Good evening. Grammy Yusef 2 7 8 8 5 Mound Road.
Uh, I thank you for your time and service
and I, uh, I know that you've heard some of this before,
but I'd like to, uh, reiterate
that I'm a truly family owned business.
My, uh, late husband started it two decades ago
and my family is now continuing the legacy
and I apologize if I don't have any slides,
but we, uh, truly just did come from work,
so there was no time for those types of things.
Um, as far as our customers, um, it's great that we are,
you know, doing the, uh, the the new, um, chaos and things,
but our, our customers tend to still, like,
when we greet them and welcome them,
we have all the best services.
We get our supplies from, um, local vendors, Hackney,
who's Michigan based, um, vendors that we, I'll name a few
that we, uh, help carry that their businesses in-house,
which is, uh, the nozzle king, uh, Hackney,
IDI dig Digi Graphics for other, uh, um, sportswear.
Um, the Armada distributors who, uh, get our oil,
the Yamo oil, uh, ams who are local restaurants
that is award-winning for their great Sheard Musk.
So we have a lot of the healthy options.
We have all the services that she is going to bring
that is nothing unique to what, um,
Warren doesn't already have
and has been doing very well with
what we, we've been offering.
Um, we don't have to Google what organizations to help.
We are asked to help daily, um, with other schools,
with the football leagues amongst Warren,
the Warren Motts and, and so forth.
So we don't have to Google it
because we're not an outside company coming in to see what,
what sounds good to you.
Um, listening to them, we, we help them on a daily basis.
Um, and I just, uh, hope that I just realize that,
or just discover that you're, you're, you only you hold the,
uh, the uh, the rights to deciding what needs to be allowed.
Because if it doesn't have to be rezoned, um,
and it is properly zoned,
there's no other meeting after this.
So that I hope that you don't only just look at
how it's zoned, but what, what value it's gonna bring
to the city of Warren that we, we don't already have.
They're not bringing anything unique to us.
And like the gentleman
before me said, it's not raining against Tony or, or, uh,
or the the next distributor.
This is a whole nother playing ground.
The prices they get and the,
and it can distribute, can put out to the, uh, the local
customer is something that I will never see.
So I can't even compete in that, uh, arena. Thank you.
Thank you.
Does anyone else like to speak on this item?
Good evening. My name is Marwan Isa.
I'm the owner of 3 4 9 4 9 Van Neck Avenue.
Uh, I'm here to enforce as well my
colleague s here and ask you guys a question.
You guys are decision maker here for tonight in order
to get sheets, uh, plan approved as
an independent gas station owner, like everybody here,
we are the moms and pop store.
We have the customer service that we can provide
for our neighborhood.
Our neighborhood comes to us and they know us.
They have the relationship with them,
not just the neighborhoods, the police
department and everyone in the city.
We make donations because we are in support of the city
because we are part of the part of the city.
She gas stations coming closed like as they said,
like oh 0.1 mile from another gas station,
which is a walking distance.
Was the point of that. What they trying to prove here, yes,
they coming to this market to Michigan.
There is a lot of other areas in the state of Michigan
where it may be in need of that gas station but not here
because it's, as everyone knows
and everyone said, we are already oversaturated
what they trying to do, they're gonna come in,
they're gonna put us out of business.
You guys gonna see an empty gas station there
and it's hard to fill it in again
because as you know, each gas station, if someone
to take over, they have to go
through all the environmental if they cannot get a loan from
the bank because it's a gas station.
But we are already there.
I'm just here tonight and I'm asking you guys,
do we really in need of another gas station
on VanEck? Thank you so much.
Thank you sir.
Anyone else like to speak on this item?
Good evening. Good evening.
Um, I wasn't planning on speaking today.
My name is Tara Uni. I'm a teacher in the district.
Been teaching in this district for over 25 years.
I've seen in this district, this city turn from what it was
as a city to what it truly is.
And that's a community.
That's because of these families here and their,
and their students and my students.
I owe it to them to be up here.
I invite you to my classroom
before you make any decisions that are detrimental
to our city and our community.
Come talk to my students and come ask them what hope means.
Come ask them what a family business truly is.
Come ask them what opportunity it is.
Come ask 'em where they were 10, 15, 20 years ago coming
to this country, what they've built
because of their blood, sweat, and tears.
A family corporation.
My students do our project and
I always tell 'em, do your research.
It's not just about making it pretty. Do your research.
What's inside this? Do your research.
Contact the city, the police department
and look up the crime reports for their businesses
that the last 20 years, they're non-existent.
You won't see the same crimes you see as sheets.
Do your research. Look at the racial discrimination
that sheets have seen the last five years.
Look at our city behind us here, our families.
How many racial discrimination cases have they faced? None.
All I ask is you do your research.
I invite you to my class anytime.
Talk to my kids, their families.
Thank you.
Anyone else like to come up and speak on this?
Nick Lav is 36 71 East 12 Mile.
I went to elementary school, junior high
and high school in the city and I started my business.
I started my jewelry business from nothing in the
limousine business from nothing.
Who am I to tell people not to open their businesses here?
Costco sells jewelry now.
Am I supposed to tell 'em to get out
of don't be in business.
This is ridiculous. It's a free enterprise. Thank you.
Thank you sir. Anyone else like to speak on this item?
Hi, my name is Deanna. I'm the daughter of Rami.
I just wanted to let you into, in a prime example
of me being directly impacted by, if she was able to come in
with my parents owning a family business.
I've been able to go to OU and get my undergraduate
and I've been able to continue my edu education
by getting my master's at the University of Detroit Mercy.
I can truly say that if it wasn't
for my family's own business that I wouldn't be able
to be standing in front of you today
with a master's in business.
So I want you to really take the time to
understand if it wasn't for my family's business,
it wouldn't be able to have put me through college
or my sister or my brother.
And we would be directly impacted currently
as well if Sheets was able to come into the city of Warren.
Thank you.
Is there anyone else like to speak on this item?
Seeing that I'll turn it over to the commission.
Mr. Chairman, uh, I'd like to make a motion
for discussion and to approve the site plan
for Sheets gas station with, with discussion
Mr. pki
As the has a motion by Commissioner Ze,
supported by Commissioner Beki.
Go ahead with the discussion.
Thank you Mr. Chairman.
Um, there are a number of stories
and a number of things going on here
and uh, a lot of this is aimed at
sheets and heaven forbid we have competition
in the city of Warren.
Uh, we've been told that this area is ripe for crime
and a variety of other things.
Uh, I don't see this area
being crime riddled, uh,
in the northern section of Warren.
And I think Warren Police have done a terrific job here.
Um, after everything is said
and done, uh, I I'm looking forward to getting rid
of the Pamela's eyesore.
I think this helps the entire Van D**e throughway
and it helps get people to stop
and either get gas, get food, get whatever they need.
I think this'll help not only sheets,
but I think it'll help some of the uh, uh,
other businessmen that are up and down.
Van D**e, uh, used to be that every gas,
every corner had four gas stations on the corners,
and now a whole bunch of 'em are down
to two gas stations on the corners
and out of most of the gas station.
Nobody's fixing cars.
Everybody's pumping gas
and selling, uh, convenience items
for food chips and everything else.
But, uh, most
or a lot of gas stations at one point in time used
to make a lot of money fixing cars.
Now that's gone.
So yes, times are changing and things have changed
and I understand what, uh, the residents
and the business owners up and down Van D**e
and Chicago Road and Mound
and every place else that's on these maps is,
but I think this'll actually make this area better.
Thank you Mr. Chairman.
Thank you Mr. Anyone else like to speak on this?
Um, I like to make a comment
and, uh, maybe even, uh, um, talk to, um, our director on,
I know, um, with VanEck being a busy road, I was wondering,
I know we may just made the motion to approve
with discussion, but is there a way to do a traffic study
in the, um, the Van D**e in that area?
Because I know according to one of the no that came through,
I was wondering, I think a traffic state study might be
something worth looking at.
So if that is a possibility, I like the commission
to consider it and, uh, see if we all agree
and if that can be done.
If I may address the commission.
Um, we have completed a traffic study for this location.
Uh, so we've engaged, engaged a local traffic engineer
and we feel that the conditions that are proposed today are,
are safe per the traffic study report that we did.
So we have taken that step
to make sure we have safe access in and out of the site.
Thank you. Anything else?
Nope, I went. Oh, okay. I was wondering about that.
Thank you.
Anyone else like to speak on this? Could there be
An independent traffic study?
Um, I'd like to say speak something. Go ahead. Yes.
Uh, I think the, uh, uh,
the band D**e is the main artery for, for this area,
for the metro Detroit area.
People coming from south to north or north to south.
And I think it is not gonna be affect the local businesses.
Um, the mentioned that there is a, most
of the intersection have like full gas stations
and this is the heart of the city of Warren
and this is the part of the downtown area
and this is the junk building, been sitting for a while
and make our city looking very bad.
So it is very hard to find sometime a like
well funded investor
to invest their money in the city.
And also we are concerning about
like all the other local businesses too.
And they have, they're not only selling the gas, they have
like, uh, uh, dining too.
And, okay. I would like to ask Mr.
Uh, you know, the, the, the applicant, how do you
respond to those, those businessmen, local businessmen?
Um, like saying they're complaining.
So just to be clear, you'd like me to address how,
you know, to respond to the applicants
Yes. How,
how to address their issues. Yes.
Yeah. So a couple of things.
It's been mentioned a couple of times here tonight.
There is a lot of competition in this type of market.
And in fact, I mean, some of our competition in this room is
already in competition with each other.
It's something that exists everywhere in the United States.
I mean, it doesn't even exist just in our industry.
When you look at McDonald's
and Wendy's, there's competition
everywhere throughout the market.
It really, truly is a good thing for both ourselves,
truly our competition in, in cities.
I mean, it holds us to a higher standard.
Having that kind of competition.
We rarely see other businesses go out out of business.
I mean, there's already so much competition in the market.
They've mentioned that there are already a lot
of fuel stations in Southeast Michigan.
And really what that means is they're already in competition
with each other, and they're still being competitive
and still making money
and thriving as a business, you know, so that, that kind
of situation already exists within the market.
That's what, what I would say, you know,
competition is just everywhere.
And, and we think that we do not, we,
we very rarely put other businesses out out of business
Button.
Uh, excuse me. Uh, audience participation is closed,
so we are not receiving any comments
from the audience at this time.
Does that answer your question? Yes.
Thank You.
Anyone else? Yes,
I understand. Uh,
concern of audience, all of those local business
as our commissioner Ze mentioned that time for change,
you know, uh, look, we used a,
uh, car like, you know, 10 years ago.
Now we are focusing on electric car because time change.
So now, now as our mentioned
that this building has been there a long time, you know,
and it's a, it a, it a, uh, d
our d the downtown area.
So it's our, can you, can you please? Lemme talk.
You cannot talk while I'm talking. Excuse me.
You know, you had your chance, so you talked We are Mr.
An, sorry. Let us stop, please.
So, hold on, please.
No disruptions from the audience at this time.
We're trying to handle our business up here.
If we hear any more discussions
or disruptions, we have an officer here.
We'll escort you out.
Yes. All right. Thank You.
Let us do our business up here. Thank you.
We, we understand your concern.
You know, we listen and we are taking into consideration
of your concern.
At the same time, we have to take into consideration
of betterment of the city, which is best for the city.
We, yes. We'll have to take it.
So I think personally as a commissioner,
I think say it's a good thing for the city.
You know, they're coming. It's a good company.
They're coming, they're investing in the city,
and it's gonna, it's gonna be good.
You know, we, we, we've been waiting for the, um,
this building is to go away
because it's a good location for us.
And this, this is,
it doesn't look nice in the city of foreign.
So, and, uh, thank you.
Thank you for investing in the City of Foreign.
Anyone else? Go ahead, commissioner Meki.
I'd like to address everybody here and say,
Check your mic.
Mike's on. I'd like to address all of us here
'cause we are all in the city
and we're all hopefully wanna be here for the next 2050,
however many years we have.
And we want our city to grow.
We don't want our city to be just nothing
but empty, lots and deserted.
So I think renovation or our progress is good.
I think we need that. And I also think we are strong enough
and we are good enough people that loyalty
and old school in the friendly handshake
and knowing the PA of the people
and going to the, the small businesses.
I, I don't think you will fail.
I think if our hearts are really in there with the city
of Warren, that we are the people we are,
we can live peacefully with both of 'em.
We can move ahead and stay, stay beyond
and be all, be happy and social together.
Thank you Chair.
Anyone, anyone else on the commission to speak?
Um, I have a quick question for the petitioner, if I may,
um, to the petitioner please.
Um, one of the thing I was wondering about is,
at the beginning of the con conversation,
the equal rights wi with hiring,
and I may be a little bit, a little bit off in here, um,
hiring the, uh, I think the black community
members, I think that was brought up.
Can you address that situation or if there's any comments
or I don't know if there's law,
anything lawsuits or anything like that.
Can you address that if you don't mind?
Absolutely. So there, there is an ongoing lawsuit, lawsuit
between the EEOC and sheets.
Uh, we've been under negotiation
with the EOC for eight years.
Um, I can't speak on ongoing litigation.
I would encourage you to go and read, uh,
the statements about this.
What I want to really express to you is
that there is no room for
discrimination in sheets whatsoever.
Uh, you know, how, how do I, you know, reiterate that to,
and kind of prove to you in this conversation.
Uh, and the answer is look at some
of the awards we've gotten for being some
of the best retailers in the country to work for.
We actually were named, um,
I believe number two in the top retailers in
the country to work for.
You get there with a really good culture of people.
You don't get there with a toxic culture.
Uh, and that's something that it, it's not,
we don't take those surveys,
those are independent third party surveys.
They take into account all levels of our employees,
especially focusing on our operations employees,
which are the bulk of who we employ.
I think we employ almost like 24, 20 5,000,
like store operating employees.
So those employees are the ones
that really get those surveys,
and they're the ones that win us the awards, you know, just
by those third party surveys.
So if you would take into context some of these lawsuits,
uh, with the fact that we do have a culture
that's recognized by our employees
as being one of the top in the country.
Okay. I do wanna, we are a very diverse community in here,
in the city of Warren, and that is something that would, uh,
definitely be totally unacceptable,
Right? Absolutely.
And something great about, you know,
something great about our locations is we hire 30
to 35 people, hopefully from the very local community
to work at our locations.
Uh, we really do make a, a local effort to hire.
We put up, you know, local hiring
banners and things like that.
We really do try to promote from within as well.
So if we hire, you know,
employees from within the surrounding Warren area
and, you know, we engage them
and we, we build them up through our ranks
and they can eventually get into store management and,
and do really well for themselves.
So we, again, we really do focus on hiring local. Yeah.
Thank you. Thank you.
Anyone else? I just wanna make a comment.
This seems to be a really nice plan.
I understand that the issues that it's posing
with the community,
but our job as a commission is to look at the plan,
see if it goes agrees with all the ordinances,
and if it agrees with all the
ordinances we have to approve it.
Only thing we can do is possibly ask the owner
to maybe listen to some of your recommendations
and see if there's some things they can possibly do to
address your recommendations.
But other than that, if it meets the ordinances, we have
to approve it and there's no other
discussion from the audience.
Um, a motion take That was a motion by, uh,
commissioner dse, supported by Commissioner Beki Roll Hall.
Commissioner dse? Yes.
To approve Commissioner Beki? Yes.
To approve Commissioner iar? Yes.
To approve Commissioner Hawk? Yes.
To approve Commissioner Ery. Yes. To approve more votes.
Yes. Commissioner Smith.
Yes. To approve. Thank you. Thank you.
We will move on. Item number six C.
Item number six C.
Site plan for BDBC battery prototype facility located on the
southeast corner of 13 mile and Mount Road.
General Motor Global Tech Center. 3 0 4 7 0.
Harley Harley R Road, section nine aircraft Falls,
general Motors, Michael, she and GFA Associates.
L-L-C-P-S-P 2 4 0 0 1 8. Thank you
Mr. Good evening.
You wanna tell us a little bit about your project?
Good evening. Michael Serge with, uh,
GRI Associates on behalf of gm.
Uh, the Battery Cell Development Center is a, uh, technical,
uh, development center where GM intends to, uh,
assemble battery cells.
Uh, it's located next to the Wallace, uh, laboratory, which
develops new chemistries for battery cell technology.
This is a, uh, low, low volume mm-hmm, prototypical, uh,
facility where they're trying out new battery cell, uh,
chemicals and processes.
And they actually, uh, will manufacture small quantities,
uh, batches of different, uh, battery cells that will then,
uh, move into, uh, battery packs
for some prototype vehicles.
Uh, we originally came
before the board last year with this building, uh,
but the building grew in size
and we had to split it up into two buildings.
Uh, the aging building, which, uh,
is called formation process,
stayed on the original BCDC site.
And this, uh, building, the BCDC actually moved south
of the, uh, aging building, which is the formation building.
So we're here today to, uh, present this
and, uh, get it approved.
Thank you, sir. Correspondence
Correspondence, Texas Current
Engineering preliminary review
of this site has yelled at the following comments
from the engineering division.
Number one, during the meeting of 7 25 20 24,
it was explained that all storm water will discharge
to the county drains, LER drain and Beer Creek.
No storm water is proposed to be discharging to the city
of Orange storm sewer.
All calculation detention, aerial disturbance,
storm water narratives, operation
and maintenance agreements with the county should also be
provided to the City of Warren for recording
and verification of their approval.
The city will also require all permits with the county
to be obtained prior
to receiving an engineering construction permit.
Number two, show the location
of the CLE drain and Beer Creek.
Number three, show the location
of the Chicago Road right away
and any work being done on that area.
Number four, indicate on the plans whether the water main
to the building will be connecting will be connected
through the Northeast Quadrant Master Water me meter
building, which provides isolation to the city
of Warren Water system.
Number five, indicate on the construction drawings any
increase in flow to the connection
with the existing sanitary sewer.
Provide calculations showing changes in capacity
requirements fire.
The Warren Fire Department approves this site Plan.
If you have any questions, please contact
5 8 6 7 5 6 2 8 0 0
with extension code 3 3 0 0 Comcast
in response to your utility request for the above project,
please refer to the test map for the location of Comcast
CTV slash F-I-B-E-R facilities.
Aerial cable cables are highlighted in orange for fiber
and YOLO for Coke's.
Cable underground is highlighted in blue for fiber
and green for Coke's cable.
If, if we can be of any farther assistance, please feel free
to contact us by email at
CCC utility request@teamsigma.com.
DTE DT Electric Electric Company has reviewed the following,
following site plan
for B-E-C-D-C battery prototype facility,
DT has no objection to this request impacting 3 0 4 7 0
Hurley Earl Road section nine per the site plan
provided, as long as all right aways
and easements may stay intact.
If you have any questions, please feel free to please.
Please do not hesitate
to contact me at
5 8 6 7 8 3 1 9 7 8 MCPW.
Please be advised that this letter is
for comment in relation to right away
and county drain easements only.
It appears that McCoy Relief drain traverses
a portion of this site.
Any work within the easements or drain requires a review
and approval by the engineering department of this office
prior to prior to SI plan approval.
Any proposed project that is under the jurisdiction
of this office shall Requi shall apply the Macomb County
Public Works office design standard.
It is advisable to schedule an engineering meeting
with this office to discuss how our standards may apply.
To schedule a meeting with this office,
please contact heather.Morin@mccombgov.org.
Please contact this office should you have any questions.
5 8 6 4 6 9 5 9 1 0. Thank you.
Thank you, ma'am. Secretary playing
department's recommendation.
Actually, I, I have a comment on
regarding the McCoy drain.
I think that's a mistake on their part.
McCoy drain is nowhere near this parcel.
It is further south on on the campus.
Uh, the meckler drain traverses between the BCDC
and the formation building.
And there is a separate project,
which the McComb County is aware of,
and we just received approval, uh, on
that's being done by a different engineering company, uh,
to relocate the, uh, metler drain and rebuild it
because the metler drain is, uh,
in its current state is failing. Okay.
Okay, sir, can you hold those
thoughts for me for a minute?
Yes. Okay. We're getting gonna get the planning department's
recommendation and then we can get back into your
discussion on the macular drain.
Okay. Thank you. Mr. Ward, can you come up please?
All right. Thank you Mr. Chair.
The recommendation is as follows.
It is recommended that the, uh, site plan for a new
BCDC battery prototype facility
phase one be approved, uh, with the standard conditions
of the planning commission and more specifically,
number one, five copies of revised overall site plans.
That is, uh, CS one dash
0 0 1 must be submitted indicating the following.
And one a, uh, label the three new buildings res,
RESS formation
and the BCDC on the overall
site plan.
That's the CS one dash 0 0 1 1 B.
There appears to be a new driveway approach
proposed in the Chicago Road right
of way indicating indicated, uh, on the overall site plan.
CS one dash 0 0 1,
providing a direct connection to Charles Kettering Road,
uh, the enlarged site plan CS one dash 0 0 2
does not indicate this new driveway.
Update the overall site plan by removing this new driveway
to Chicago Road one C.
Provide, uh, the sufficient number
of accessible parking spaces for each building
facility per a DA, uh, update, uh, the site plans
and the site data charts, uh, with the correct
number of spaces.
Condition number two, five copies of, uh, revised
enlarged site plans.
That's CS one dash 0 0 3 must be submitted
indicating the following, uh, to a,
the scale on the enlarged site plan,
the CS one dash 0 0 3 is labeled
as one inch equal 40 feet.
However, it, uh, scales at
one inch equal 50 feet.
Update the plan. Uh, one.
Okay, number two B, enlarged the enlarged site plan
CS one dash 0 0 3 BCDC, uh,
enlarged site plan.
Remove the reference, uh, to the rest building.
RESS building. Uh, two C.
Include the site data chart information for the BCDC
included on the overall site plan.
CS one dash 0 0 1 on the
enlarged site plan
CS one dash 0 0 3 2D.
The overall site plan CS one dash 0 0 1
indicates 640 square feet
of open storage area labeled, labeled this area
on the enlarged site.
Plan CS one dash 0 0 3
and included in the site data chart
two E labeled the dumpster area on the site plan.
Uh, two F indicate the use
of the proposed BCDC building on the
enlarged site.
Plan. The CS one dash
0 0 3 condition.
Number three, two copies of revised enlarged
landscape plans.
That's LP i
dash 0 0 3 must be submitted indicating the following.
Uh, three A,
the scale on the landscape plan LPI dash 0 0 3
is labeled as one inch equal 40 feet,
however it scales at a one inch equal 50 feet.
Update the plan three B label
enlarged landscape plan LPI dash 0 0 3
BCDC enlarged landscape plan.
Remove the reference to the rest building
condition number four, the overall site plan
CS one dash 0 0 1
and the enlarged site plan for the proposed
BCDC building CS one dash 0 0 3
shall be designated as the plans used in conjunction
with the site plan condition.
Number five, the City
of Warren Fire Department shall approve the plans, uh,
for the waste products
and contents held in the tanks and the building.
Uh, condition number six.
The plan indicates that the proposed amount
of earth disturbances 39.6 acres
for all phases of the project.
They will have to comply with the stormwater ordinance
condition Number seven.
The following variances are recommended
by the planning staff that may need
to be obtained from the zoning board of appeals prior
to the release of the site plan to the building division.
And so that would be seven a to wave hard surfacing
and permit the gravel yard north
and south of the proposed BBC DC building
and seven B to allow the BC DC
to be constructed 77.7
feet in height.
And, uh, we have number eight, condition number eight,
the perform a performance bond in the amount of, uh,
$4,350,000 posted according
to the estimated cost
of
$145,500,000
by the petitioner.
There is a note, uh, the planning staff believes
that the proposed bond is too high.
Uh, a new estimate results in a bond in the amount
of $1 million.
And so with that, uh, Mr.
Chair, the recommendation is submitted.
Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Ward.
Uh, to the gentleman, can you come back?
You had a couple comments on the macular drain.
Yes. Uh, it refers to the McCoy drain, uh,
McCoy drain's nowhere near this, uh, property.
It's further down in the, uh, complex.
I think it's the LER drain that they're referring to.
And that is in review with the city, with the county.
And there's a proposal to rebuild the meckler drain
and actually shift it because they can't rebuild it in place
while and keep it operating.
Uh, during the design of the project, it was discovered
that the, uh, meckler drain as it's in place is collapsing,
and those recommended that it be rebuilt.
And that's a separate project that is ongoing currently.
Uh, it is intended, it is supposed
to start construction here very shortly
to relocate it just south of its current location
and put a new pipe into the ground for that.
Uh, there's also DDTE easement that, uh, will form the,
is the south border of that macular drain, uh, relocation.
Once a macular drain is, uh, in place,
the old mecular drain will be demolished.
And, uh, that's
where the formation building foundations will actually sit.
Uh, so, uh, I would just like to make that note,
that correction in the meeting minutes here
or in the, uh, application.
Uh, also in reviewing the, uh, comments,
uh, we are trying not to go through ZBA again
and, um, regarding the, uh, use of stone.
We, we have proposed tone around the building, uh, in
to mitigate, uh, how much impervious surface we have,
uh, in lieu of stone.
We're happy to plant grass seed there, uh,
and establish lawn
and surface there so we don't have to go through
a ZBA approval at this time.
And regarding the height of the building, uh, section 1902,
the zoning ordinance allows lab
and technical buildings to be, uh, up to eight stories
and a hundred feet tall.
In M two district, uh, this building falls into
that category and as well within, um, that, uh,
height limitation zoning stipulation in the ordinance is
that it has to be set back from the property
line a further distance.
Uh, the northern most building the res building is at least
150 feet off the property line.
The BCDC building is nearly 500 feet off the property line,
so I don't see why, uh, we need to go to zoning ordinance,
zoning approval to, uh, get the height approved.
All right. Thank you, sir. This is a public hearing if
anyone would like to speak on the item.
And please come up. State your name
and address for the record, and
you have three minutes to speak.
Seeing done, we'll turn it over to the commission.
I need a motion. Motion
To approve beki support. Maury
Has a motion by Commissioner Beki forgo.
Commissioner Maury, any discussion?
Mr. Chairman? Go ahead.
Uh, does the motion a question,
does the motion include knocking the bond
down to a million dollars?
Yes. Okay.
Uh, I think that's pretty important.
Obviously there are no Ford fans here, um,
screaming about this.
Um, how long do you think this is going to take to build,
Uh, process installation in this building is scheduled
to start in September of next year.
I have Dan Lambo from Walbridge, and, uh, Sarah from, uh, GM
and Tristan from PEA, the civil engineering firm.
So, uh, is it September next year?
Yeah. Excuse me.
September of next year is when process
installation begins.
Okay. Because, because you're going to be time limited
for two years unless you need an extension. Um,
No, we, we intend to start construction in November
of this year on foundations.
Okay. Um, but just so you're aware of, uh,
the approval goes for two years and then
after two years you can ask for a year extension.
Right. Uh, so I wanted to make sure that's, that's one, two,
how do you guys get around in there, uh,
When you enter The gate? Well,
we went in there to take a look at this and,
and got stuck every single time we turned around. Um,
So for us visitors, when you enter the gate,
they usually give you a, uh, a parking pass or a side,
Well, we got the parking pass.
It doesn't map on do a darn good or good side
Doesn't map on one side.
Um, We lead breadcrumbs that get out
Or just cakes, keep throwing them out.
Um, uh, last question are, uh, are there is,
and I think I asked you earlier,
is there gonna be any lithium in this bag building?
There's no plan to use lithium metal in this process.
There are lithium salts that, uh, may be used,
but, uh, part of this project is
that they are exploring different, uh,
chemical combinations in the production of the batteries.
Okay. And as,
and you're going, we don't have
to worry about hazardous materials flowing out of there?
No, everything is contained in the site.
Um, uh, the question regarding the waste product, uh,
everything that's used on site gets, um, stored
on site either inside the building
or in there is a hazardous,
there's a 90 day storage building
where they will store hazardous waste.
Okay. And, uh, it gets removed from the sighting
to the processor.
Um, there's some chemicals that are used in the, uh, process
to put the powder on the film that, uh, is, uh, used.
The batteries, uh, that is all evaporated off
and captured in a, uh, uh, what they call the AC tower.
Uh, it's a filtration system, so you have filtration system,
system, the filtration system
that collect all the dirty fluids.
None of it's gonna be processed on site.
This is too small of an operation
to set up a refinery on site.
So they take that, put in the storage tank
and ship it off to a vendor who will then process it
and return it to the site for reuse.
Alright. Very good. Thank you Mr. Chairman.
Thank you, sir. Anyone else like to speak on this item?
Um, I do, I have a good question if I may.
Um, I was, because if this is a new facility
that is going up, is this gonna be bringing in new jobs
to the city or to gm?
This location?
Sarah, that's your department?
Yeah.
Good evening. Um, most of the people
who will be working here are already employed at gm
or they, uh, their engineers, they'll be,
um, added in.
It's a very small number of people
who will actually be in the building.
Uh, I think it's around 135.
So, um, it's not a large manufacturing facility.
Again, we're making prototypes
that go into prototype vehicles. Okay. So
Thank you. Yep.
Anyone else?
Is it not a, uh, production facility
or just for the prototype?
These are for prototype vehicles, uh,
pro prototype batteries.
Uh, this, it's not a product,
it's not a full production facility.
They just do small batches.
I think that was it 3,600 cells
that Yeah, it's pre production.
3,600 cells per a year. Right. Yeah.
That's a very small quantity of BA battery cells.
Thank you. Anyone else like to speak on this?
I mean, we're, I think we're only
165,000 square feet in the BCDC facility compared
To, can you speak in the mic, sir? Yeah,
I think the facility's only 165,000 square feet.
Um, and your typical battery plant is
3 million square feet, so,
Okay. I have a couple
questions.
Um, I notice in our findings you talk about A-N-P-M-P
yard building and it contains, uh,
trench drains and galvanized stairs.
We're accessing the tanks and pumps in the area. Yes.
Says a N MP will be held in a 15,000 gallon tank
and there'll be a waste tank of 25,000 gallons.
Yes. What is, what is what is in
PNMP?
Yeah, I wish I could knew all of the acronyms.
It's, it's the, it's a chemical, it's a solvent that's used,
uh, in the process that, uh, allows the, uh, powder
that, uh, gets laminated to the, uh,
metal plate or film to stick to it.
It is then after it's, uh, turned into a slurry
with the powder, it gets pressed onto the, uh, metal film.
Uh, then it goes through an oven to dry it out, in which,
at which time all that NNP solution gets, uh,
evaporated out, collected through a filtration unit
and put into a waste stream.
Uh, water's added to that.
So they have to send it back for recycling
to remove the water and then it gets reused.
Uh, do you recall what the NMP actually stands for? I can't
Pronounce it.
Thank you, sir. Um,
the other question I had, I saw that you have some carbon
towers and also the dust collectors.
So Yes. Do those work in conjunction with this,
Those work in conjunction with this, uh, the, uh, powders,
there's a, one of the powders is a carbon one based,
the one's aluminum based.
Uh, when they dump that,
when they open those sacks, it comes to the sacks.
When they open the sacks, uh, they have, um, dust collectors
that collect any random dust so it doesn't, uh,
get released into the atmosphere
and that gets put through dust collectors
to collect it and recycle it.
Okay. They try to keep it a clean, very clean process.
All, all this work is done in clean rooms.
Uh, ISO seven clean rooms.
Okay. You brought up the, um,
note about the meckler drain.
Yes. And you're showing it on the drawing,
but you're saying it's gonna be repaired and maybe
Moved. Yeah, the me drain, the
macular drain is being repaired.
The, um, uh, note from, uh, McComb County, uh,
states the McCoy drain,
so I think they just got the drains mixed up.
Uh, it's the LER drain that we're, uh, that's on our site,
not the McCoy drain.
How is that gonna affect the timeline as far as, uh,
finishing the formation building and the BCDC building?
Because it's running right through there.
BCDC, it doesn't affect it.
We are actually south of the metler drain.
Uh, we just have to have the metler drain established prior
to the, our roof going on so that the roof water
that's come off coming off of the, uh,
BCDC building can go into the metler drain system.
Uh, there is gonna be retention required by, uh, uh,
McComb County as part of that, uh, project.
Uh, there's I think two, two different retention ponds
that are actually overflow.
We actually discharge directly into the meckler.
And when the me, there's a, um, limiter in the meckler drain
that will be installed when during heavy rainfalls.
It'll actually make
that water back up into the retention ponds on site
until the drain, uh, can handle that water.
Uh, it's not intended to have any onsite water storage.
Eventually all that water will be,
uh, released to the metler drain.
But the BCDC building is not affected at all
by the relocation of the meckler drain.
We actually have to wait on the formation building
to start that building.
So until that drain work is completed,
but that drain work is intended to be started in the next,
uh, month or so as well.
Alright. Thank you sir.
Um, I believe that answered my questions. Oh.
How long is all this gonna take?
I mean, because you've been before
us a couple different times.
We've changed this, we've changed that.
We gonna have some more changes coming.
I think that we are on the right track.
Uh, financials, uh, are now in in place.
And, uh, contractors, uh, here with me,
Dan Ble from Walbridge, uh, we actually changed, uh,
contractors in the process.
Uh, there was a bidding process
and Walbridge, uh, uh, won the bid for this project.
And I think they're under contract to
actually construct this now in full.
So, uh, yeah, our intent is to get started in,
in, uh, November of the foundation.
So, uh, steel mill order was released, uh, last week.
So steel is, uh, on being ordered as we speak.
All right. Thank you sir. There was a motion
by Commissioner Beki, supported by Commissioner
Moy roll call
Commissioner Beki.
Yes. To support Commissioner Moy votes. Yes.
Commissioner Onar? Yes.
To roll Commissioner er? Yes.
To support Commissioner Hawk? Yes. Commissioner Chare?
Yes. To approve Commissioner Ms. Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To approve. Thank you sir.
Thank you. I have number six,
I have number seven, I believe.
Planning 2 20 25. Planning commission meeting dates.
We voted on this last time,
so I just need a motion to receive and file. Motion
To receive and file Support.
Who supported? I'm sorry. Yes sir. You have speak up.
I can't hear you. So I have a motion by Commissioner Beki,
supported by Commissioner Anser.
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
No. Motion Receive
and file Item number eight A
I. Number eight. A
minor amendment to site plan
for new battery cell development center building, now known
as the formation Building located on the southeast corner
of 13 Mile and Mound Roads.
General Motor Technical Campus, 3 0 4 7 0.
Hilly Earl Road, section nine er, Erica Falls,
general Motors, Michael Cher, Ari Associates.
LLC. The minor amendment is for an addition to the building
and an expansion of the parking lot.
PMA 2 4 0 0 0 5. Thank you.
Thanks Madam. Secretary.
Um, you wanna tell us a little bit about this project, sir?
Yes. Uh, this is the other half of what used
to be the BCDC building.
It's called formation.
After the battery cells are manufactured in the BCDC
building, there's uh, gonna be transferred over
to the formation building,
which is basically a aging process for battery cells.
Uh, battery cells don't just come out of the, uh,
manufacturer's, uh, plant and right into use.
They actually have to age the batteries for about a month,
and they're aged at the high
temperatures, ambient temperatures.
Uh, during this process, they are charged and discharged
and, um, tested.
Um, and, um, I think, um,
if they find defi defective batteries, they're
packaged into, um, fireproof boxes
and shipped to a, uh, facility where they're analyzed
and, uh, taken apart and recycled.
So this, this is actually a formation.
This, it was half of the original building,
but it, uh, grew to the two larger
to be able to fit on a site.
So we had to split into two buildings.
So this is the portion that was left on the original site,
and uh, it's just an eight big box where we age.
Batteries.
Alright, thank you sir.
Planning department's recommendation.
There's correspondence. Oh, hold it. Correspondence. Yep.
Correspondence, taxes, current engineering.
Preliminary review of this site at site and letter
provided on 8 30, 8 30, 20 24 of this site
and letter provided on eight.
Okay. No additional comments to this, uh,
to this minor amendment from the engineering division.
Um, fire, the Warren Fire
Department approves this site plan.
If you have any questions, please contact me at
5 8 6 7 5 6 2 8 0 0
with extension code 3 3 0 0. Thank you.
Thank you, Madam Secretary.
Planning Department's recommendation.
All right. Thank you. Uh, Mr.
Chair, the recommendation is as follows.
It is recommended that the, uh, site plan
for a minor amendment to the approved site plan
for new formation building, formerly the BC DC building
for an addition to the building
and an expansion of the parking lot be approved
with the standard conditions of the planning commission.
And more specifically, uh, number one, five copies
of revised overall site plans.
CS one dash 0 0 1 must be submitted
indicating the following.
So we have one A.
Uh, the overall site plan, CS one dash 0 0 1
and the enlarged site plan
for the proposed formation building shall be designated
as the plans and used in conjunction as the site plan.
However, at present, the formation building
is split into two enlarged
site plan sheets.
That's, uh, CS one dash 0 0 2
and CS one dash 0 0 3.
Provide an enlarged site plan for the formation plan
that is drawn on one sheet.
One B label.
The three new buildings rests, RESS,
uh, formation and BC
DC on the overall site plan.
That's CS one dash 0 0 1 and one C.
There appears to be a new driveway approach, uh,
proposed in the Chicago Road right of way
indicated on the overall site plan CS one dash 0 0 1.
Providing a direct access to Charles Kettering Road.
The enlarged site plan CS one dash 0 0 2
does not indicate the this new driveway.
Update the overall site plan by removing this new driveway
to Chicago Road.
Condition number two. Five.
Copies of revised enlarged formation.
Site plans must be submitted indicating the following to a,
the scale on the enlarged, uh, site plans.
CS one dash 0 0 2
and CS one dash 0 0 3 is labeled
as one inch equal 40 feet,
however it scales at one inch equal 50 feet.
Update the plan three B label enlarged site plan
for the formation building as
enlarged site plan formation building phase two,
and remove the references to the BCDC
and the rest building.
Two C. Indicate the site data information
for the formation building included on the overall site.
Plan CS one dash 0 0 1 to the
enlarged site plan
for the formation building 2D.
The easement for meckler drain
and the location of the outlet on the east side
of the Conroe railroad, uh,
shall be indicated on the site plan
condition two E uh,
locate the utility towers along the west side of the Conrail
railroad and within the DTE easement
and two F indicate, uh, the use
of the proposed formation building on the
enlarged site plan.
Uh, two G.
The overall site plan CS one dash 0 0 1 indicates
640 square feet
of open storage area labeled this area on the enlarged site.
Plan for the formation building.
If this applies to the site, this site,
and include it in the site data chart.
Uh, two H. Provide the sufficient number
of accessible parking spaces for each building
facility per a DA update the site plans, uh,
and site data charts with the correct number of spaces.
And, uh, two,
I label the dumpster area on the site plan.
Uh, condition number three, uh, two copies
of revised enlarged, uh,
landscape plans must be submitted indicating the following.
Three A, the scale on the,
on the landscape plan lp, uh, i uh,
dash 0 0 3 is labeled
as one inch equal 40,
however it scales at one inch equal 50.
Update the plan three B.
The enlarged landscape plan
for the formation building is split into two
enlarged site plan sheets.
LP one, uh, dash 0 0 2,
an LP one dash 0 0 3.
Uh, provide an enlarged site plan for the formation plan
that is drawn on one sheet condition number four,
the overall site plan.
The overall site plan CS one dash 0 0 1
and the enlarged site plan
for the proposed formation building shall be designated
as the plans and used in conjunction
as the site plan condition.
Number five, the City
of Warren Fire Department shall approve plans
for the contents held in the, uh, at,
at risk, uh, shelter
and the building condition Number six, the proposed,
excuse me, the project approved by the Planning Commission
on September 11th, 2023
for new battery cell development center BC DC building
Phase two PSP
2 3 0 0 3 0 shall be withdrawn.
This new project will now be the location of the
formation building, which is the site plan application,
which this site plan application is amending.
Condition number seven
of the following variances are recommended
by the planning staff
and may need to be obtained from the zoning board
of appeals prior to the release of the site plan
to the building division.
That's seven a to waive, uh,
hard surfacing and allow the gravel yard
in the northeast corner of the
pro proposed formation building.
And number seven B, uh,
to allow the formation building to be constructed.
Six two feet in height
condition eight performance bond in the amount of
1,262,250
be posted according to the estimated cost
of 42 million point
or 42.75 million by the petitioner.
Note, the planning staff believes
that the proposed bond amount is too high.
A new estimate results, uh, in a bond the amount
of $1 million.
So with that Mr. Chair, the recommendation is submitted.
Thank you. Mr. W. Um,
in our bylaws, we added a, a clause to where
if our ex officials wouldn't have come up
and make a comment on any of the things like in this area,
they would be allowed to do so.
Do you all, do you want to come up? Everybody good? Alright.
Very good. I just wanted to give you the opportunity
if you wanted to do that.
Okay.
Well turn it over to the commission.
Mr. Chairman, I'll make a motion to approve
Ute.
Hello, Dan. Sorry, was that you? Yes.
Yes sir. You're gonna make
me wear my hearing aid, aren't you? With
The $1 million bond?
The one with the $1 million bond? Yes. Okay.
Is there any discussion?
Okay. Seeing none, roll call.
That was a motion by Commissioner dse,
supported by Commissioner Ansar. Roll call.
Commissioner dse. Yes. Commissioner Ansar? Yes.
To approve Commissioner Hawk? Yes.
To approve Commissioner Childry? Yes. To approve more votes?
Yes. Commissioner? Yes. To approve Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To approve. Thank you, sir.
On that one, item number eight B.
Item number eight B.
Second minor amendment two site plan
for new rechargeable energy storage system.
REST and office administration building
located on the southeast corner of 13 Mile Road
and 13 mile and Mount Roads.
General Motor Technical Campus. 3 0 4 7 0.
Hurley Earl Road, section nine, Erica Falls, general Motors,
Michael O Ser, Suk GFA Associates.
LLC. The second minor amendment is for an addition
to the building and an expansion of the parking lot.
PMA 2 4 0 0 0 6. Thank you.
Thanks Madam. Secretary.
Um, you wanna tell us a little bit about this one, sir?
Yes. Uh, this is the facility where the battery cells,
once they've been aged, uh,
get assembled into battery packs.
They take all the cells, put 'em into the clamshells,
seal the clamshell up,
and they ship it out for installation in a vehicle.
So this is, uh, where we actually get a working battery pack
so that all the little cells get assembled here.
So this is, this was actually the first building
that we were intending to build.
Now it's probably the last building
that we will, uh, assemble.
So. Alright. Thank you sir. Correspondence,
Correspondence, taxes, current engineering.
No additional comments to this minor amendment from the
engineering division fire.
The Warren Fire Department approves this site Plan.
If you have any questions, please contact me at
5 8 6 7 5 6 2 8 0 0
with extension code 3 3 0 0 D-T-E-D-T-E Electric Company has
reviewed the second minor amendment to site plan
for new rechargeable energy storage system, RESS
and office administration building DTE has no objection
to this request impacting 3 0 4 7 0
Hurley Earl Road section nine per the site plan provided.
If you have any questions,
please contact please do not hesitate
to contact me at
5 8 6 7 8 3 1 9 7 8 MCPW.
Please be advised that this letter is
for comment in relation to right away
and county drain easements only.
It appears that the McCoy relief drain
traverses a portion of this site.
Any work within the easements or drain requires a a review
and approval approval by the engineering department
of this office prior to a site plan approval.
Any proposed project that is under the jurisdiction
of this office shall apply the Macomb County Public Works
office design standard.
It is advisable to schedule an engineering meeting
with this office to discuss how our standards may apply.
To schedule a meeting with this office,
please contact heather.Morin@macombgov.org.
Please contact this office should you have any questions.
5 8 6 4 6 9 5 9 1 0. Thank you.
Thank you ma'am. Sir. Secretary, uh,
planning department's recommendation
Is recommended that the site plan for a minor amendment
to the approved site plan for the RESS building be approved
with the standard conditions of the planning commission
and more specifically, number one, five copies
of Aris overall site plans.
CS one dash 0 0 1 must be submitted indicating the
following, one A, the overall site plan
CS one dash 0 0 1
and the enlarged site plan for the proposed RESS building.
CS one dash 0 0 2 shall be designated as the plans
and used in condu conjunction as the site plan
one B labeled the three new buildings RESS formation
and BCDC on the overall site plan.
That's CS one dash 0 0 1 1 C.
There appears to be a new driveway approach
proposed in the Chicago Road right
of way indicated on the overall site plan
CS one dash 0 0 1 providing a direct connection
to the Charles Kettering Road,
the enlarged site plan CS one dash 0 0 2 does
not indicate this new driveway.
Update the overall site plan
by removing this driveway to Chicago Road.
Number two, five, copies
of the revised enlarged RESS site plans.
CS one dash zero two
must be submitted indicating the following.
The enlarged site plan CS one dash 0 0 2 is indicated at a
four inch to 40 foot scale.
However, the site plan does not scale properly.
The plan appears to scale at one inch.
She equals 50 feet, correct the dimensions
and the scale on the site.
Plan to be labeled the enlarged site plan
for the RESS building
as the enlarged site plan RESS building phase three
and remove the references to the BCDC building
to see the enlarged site plan for the RESS building
on CS one dash 0 0 2 indicates the building square footage
at 165,750 square feet.
However the dimensions
provided would equal, um, closer
to 169,845 feet square feet.
One, I'm sorry, 2D indicate the use
of the proposed RESS building on the enlarged site plan, um,
and indicate whether they're seeking the height exemption
for the building height of 32 feet four inches.
Um, two e The overall site plan CS one dash 0 0 1
indicates 640 square feet
of open storage area labeled this area on the enlarged site.
Plan for the RESS building.
If this applies to this site
and include it in the site data chart
two f Provide the sufficient number
of accessible parking spaces
for each building facility per a DA update the site,
the site plans and site data charts
with the correct number of spaces.
Um, two G labeled the dumpster area on the site plan.
Number three, two copies
of revised enlarged landscape plans must be submitted
indicating the following.
Three A, the scale on the enlarged site landscape plan
for the RESS building.
That's LPI dash 0 0 2 is labeled as one inch equals 40 feet,
however it scales at one inch equals 50 feet.
Um, update this on the plan three B.
The enlarged landscape plan that's LPI dash 0 0 2,
um, shall be relabeled to RESS enlarged landscape plan
and remove the reference to the BCDC building.
Um, number four is a duplicate, so we can actually remove
that that was stated in the beginning.
And number five, um, the City
of Warren Fire Department shall approve the plans
for the contents held at the at-risk
shelter and in the building.
Um, and number six, the following variances.
Our recommend filing variance is recommended
by the planning staff and may need
to be obtained from the zoning board of appeals prior
to the release of the site plan to the building division.
Um, and I, I removed six a
'cause that was in reference to the formation building.
So six. So now we'll just be six A
to allow A-R-E-S-S building to be constructed at 32 feet,
four inches, and then seven, a performance bonding.
The amount of $1,026,000 be posted according
to the estimated cost of $34.2 million by the petitioner.
Um, the note is
that the planning staff believes the proposed bond is too
high and a new estimate results in the bond in the
amount of $1 million.
So this ends the recommendation.
Thanks Ms. Michelle. Thank you, uh, to our ex officials.
Do you have any comments? Seeing none,
we'll turn it over to the commission.
Motion to approve Support and
Approved with the new bond, $1 million bond.
That is a motion by Commissioner Ansar,
support Commissioner Beki to, to
approve the million dollar bond.
Any discussion?
I have one question for the petitioner.
Can you come up, I'm not gonna let you rest tonight.
I just have a question. Yes.
What is, what is the purpose
and the design of the at risk? Uh,
At risk shelter. Shelter,
uh, this was discussed when we were here last year.
Uh, if a battery decides to go rogue
and, uh, start, uh, overheating, it is identified
and the fire department is, uh, alerted fire department.
Uh, everybody's first evacuated out
of the building fire department.
Uh, then comes to the building, make sure it's safe
to enter the building, at which time they give, uh,
clearance for that at-risk, um,
or rogue battery, uh, to be removed from the building.
It's put into this at-Risk Shelter, where it's allowed to
finish doing what it's gonna do.
Whether it's gonna, you know, just sizzle there or burn.
It's, it's a place for it to, uh, um, burn itself out.
Basically, it's, it's intended
to be away from the buildings 50.
It's located 50 feet away from any prop,
anything of importance.
And it's designed just to let it sit there and
'cause once the battery goes rogue, there's no way
of really extinguishing it.
Uh, 'cause it's, it's self generates the fire.
Okay. So in other words, it's, uh, onsite bomb shelter.
Except it's open. It's, it's, it's opened. Oh,
It's open. It's not enclosed.
Not, it's just a shelter to, you know,
to keep it, uh, covered.
Uh, but it's naturally ventilated.
Oh, okay. Okay. Well, very good.
Thank you for that explanation, sir. Any other questions?
Seeing none. Uh, that was a motion
by Commissioner Ansar supporting by Commissioner Beki.
Commissioner Ansar? Yes. To approve Commissioner Beki?
Yes. To approve Commissioner Ey? Yes.
To approve Commissioner Hawk. Yes.
To approve Commissioner Chari. Yes.
To approve Commissioner Murray votes.
Yes. Commissioner Smith.
Yes. To approve. Thank you, sir. Thank you.
Have a good evening. Number nine, bond releases.
Seeing none. Number 10. New business. Seeing none.
Number 11, citizen participation.
Any members of the audience like to come up and speak?
State your name and address for the record
and you'll have three minutes to make your comments.
Seeing none. Item number 12,
planning commission Business 12 a planning directors report.
Uh, thank you, uh, Mr. Chair.
I'm gonna make this kind of short.
I'll start, I'll start with, uh, the fact that last week,
uh, we had a complete changeover with, uh, our, uh,
computers, uh, our computer, uh, programs and all that.
BSNA. And, uh, so there was a lot of, uh, changeover
through it and, uh, lot of, lots
of training, uh, that was going on, uh, from,
from these people, uh,
for the entire, uh, city hall.
Uh, secondly there were, I, I attended two, uh, department,
uh, heads, mayors, uh, meetings, just, uh, uh,
typical information
and preparation for city council meetings.
Um, there was, uh, one climate action plan
meeting where we c we continued to discuss, uh, the fact
that, uh, we need subject matter
and, uh, get ready for an RFP, uh, to, uh,
start this process
of having a Warren Climate Action Plan.
Uh, I believe we had two meetings with the active mobility,
uh, consultants, uh, for that plan.
So we're moving right along with that.
Uh, actually it's kind of good.
And, um, and I guess finally I'll, I'll, uh,
if it hasn't gotten to everyone, uh, the mayor is going
to have a state of the city address right here in this room
on October 10th.
You wanna write that down? I don't know.
And, uh, and it'll be right here in the auditorium.
And, uh, out in the hallways all the way around here,
it'll be, uh, called, uh, a Taste of Warren,
where there'll be, uh, food vendors from in Warren, uh,
providing, uh, samples of, of their food.
So, so that's gonna start at, uh, I believe 6:00 PM
And, Uh, otherwise we were pretty
busy with findings.
So that's about all I have.
Anybody have any Thank you Mr. Work.
Does anybody have any questions for Mr. Wirth?
Thank you, sir.
Thank you. I am number 12 b voting on amending the
Planning Commission bylaws.
We took a vote last time,
but the head to make some adjustments.
So we wanted to vote if you got a chance
to go over the bylaws of the changes.
Um, did you want to talk on that?
I don't,
I guess I do.
I dunno what was changed because I wasn't here last
Time.
Well, most of this was changed.
There's still some stuff crashed out,
but we, we approved it last time,
but then, uh, Laura said we had to bring it back 'cause just
For a second reading, right? Yeah.
So we're good? Yeah.
Okay. Yeah. 'cause I don't think any
changes were made from last time. Okay.
Okay. I need a motion to approve the, um,
the, uh, changes on the bylaws.
Motion to approve the changes in the bylaws.
Becky, support Commissioner Charter
As a motion by Commissioner Beki support will coming
by Commissioner c Childry.
Uh, I'll do all in favor. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
Okay. Item number 12 C. Planning, commission.
Discussion and concerns? Anybody got any concerns?
Any discussion? No.
Item number 13, calendar Pending manner, seeing none.
Item number 14, adjournment. Need a motion to
Ajour motion. Motion to adjourn
As a motion by Commissioner Beki.
Support by Mr. Ducey. All in favor, aye. Aye. Any opposed?
Have a good evening everyone.