Good evening.
Welcome to the City of Warren Planning Commission,
November 18th.
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Allegiance, allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America,
and to the republic, which is stands, one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Roll call. Commissioner Anza.
Yes, president Commissioner Zey. Present.
Commissioner Hollow Present. Commissioner Hawk. Yes.
Commissioner Childry. Present. Commissioner Moe Present.
Commissioner Beki Present. Commissioner Smith.
Present. We have a full board tonight. Great.
We do. I need a motion. Number four.
Motion to approve of the agenda.
So move, Mr. Chairman Rey.
Seconded. Commissioner Hodi.
That is a motion by Commissioner dse.
Supported by Commissioner Hollow Wadi. Roll call
Commissioner Ansar.
Yes. Commissioner dse? Yes. Commissioner Hollow. Yes.
Commissioner Hawk? Yes. Commissioner Childre. Yes.
More votes? Yes. Commissioner Beki?
Yes. And Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To approve the agenda.
Need a motion to approve the minutes of October 21st, 2024.
I make a motion to
Approve the minutes. Commissioner
ti
Support Commissioner Childry.
There's a motion by Commissioner ti
supported by Commissioner c Childry. Roll call
Commissioner Hollow.
Yes. Commissioner Chaudry? Yes. Commissioner Ansar? Yes.
Commissioner Eyy? Yes. Commissioner Hawk? Yes.
Commissioner Vo? Yes. Commissioner Beki?
Yes. And Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To approve the minutes of October 21st, 2024.
Trying to see
our ex officials are here.
I'll see him.
Okay. Nun I Item number six. A public hearing items.
Yeah.
Not mine's off.
Okay. I'd like
to recognize your ex official Councilman Newan.
Welcome this evening. Welcome this evening. Thank you.
I am number six, a public hearing items.
I'm number six. A site plan for open storage
of various materials, shipping containers and dumpsters.
Located on the west side of Ryan Road,
approximately 177 feet north of ER Avenue.
2 5 2 5 2 5 4 1 1 dash
2 5 5 1 3.
Ryan Road, section 19.
Joseph Perkins slash the Plin Company, Scott Berkman,
but long PSP 2 4 0 0 2 3.
This was postponed from October 21st, 2024. Thank you.
Thank you ma'am. Secretary
is petitioner here this evening.
Good evening, sir. You wanna tell us a little
bit about your project again?
So we submitted an application for site plan, approval
for, uh, outdoor open storage, uh,
at the passing company's prop property on Ryan Road.
Um, there are two areas to the property, um, that we'd like
to have open storage for.
The passing company, uh, is, uh, an industrial, uh, user.
Um, they, uh, design, create
and fabricate, uh, the inside of, um, plants
for various different companies, uh, making kind
of like the rails that will look, robotics,
move on and whatnot.
Um, they manufacture these parts, um,
and have offices at their site in on Ryan Road.
Um, as part of, um, the work that they do out there, a lot
of these parts kind of get moved in
and out of the building when they're being moved
to different areas, the paint, um, fabrication, et cetera.
And, um, we're asking for, uh, outdoor, um, temporary, uh,
outdoor storage and designated areas, uh, of the property,
uh, including, um, some, some trash dumpsters
and some areas for like, uh, pallets and whatnot.
Uh, last week or, uh, at the,
at your Honorable Body's last meeting, um,
the planning department, um, gave some recommendations, um,
that item was tabled.
Uh, we had a really great meeting with the planning director
and the staff went through all of their concerns, uh,
addressed all of their concerns.
And, uh, we're here today, uh,
with the revised recommendation from the planning staff
that, uh, the PLA Plaing company, uh, supports 100%.
Thank you, sir. Correspondence,
Correspondence, taxes, current
engineering preliminary review
of this site yelled at the following comments
from the engineering division.
Number one variances shall be required for open storage.
Number two, dumpster pad shall be minimum eight fee.
Concrete show and identify the location of the dumpster, Um,
fire, the Warren Fire Department approves this site plan.
If you have any questions, please contact me.
5 8 6 7 5 6 2 8 0 0.
Extension code 3 3 0 0 DT EDTE has no
objection to this request impacting 2 5 2 0 5 dash
2 5 4 1 1 dash 2 5 5 1 3 Ryan Road section
19 per the site plan provided, as long as all easements
and right away stay in place.
If you have any questions,
please do not hesitate to contact.
Contact me at
5 8 6 7 8 3 1 9 7 8 Comcast.
In request to your utility request for the above project,
please refer to the test map for the location of Comcast
CTV slash fiber facilities.
Aerial cables are highlighted in orange for fiber
and yellow for Coke's.
Cable underground is highlighted in blue for fiber
and green for Coke's cable.
If we can be of further assistance, please feel free
to contact us by email at
CCC utility request@timsigma.com. Thank you.
Thank you ma'am. Secretary Plain
Department's recommendation.
Okay, with that out of the way.
Um, thank you Mr. Chair.
The recommendation is as follows.
It is recommended, uh, that the site plan for open storage
of various materials, shipping containers,
and dumpsters be approved with the standard conditions
of the planning commission
and more specifically, number one, uh,
per the engineering division, a simple parking lot permit,
uh, has not been pulled.
Uh, in engineering for repaving, uh, a permit, uh,
shall be required for the new concrete, uh, condition.
Number two, the planning staff identified a damaged tree
located within the Ryan right of way.
The city engineer indicated any tree damaged
by the contractor would be replaced.
Uh, if the tree is damaged
or needs to be replaced in the future,
or if it is, uh, not due to be,
not due to the construction project,
the petitioner shall replace it.
And in this case, uh, it, it was the contractor's fault,
they will replace that tree.
Uh, condition number three.
Uh, the petitioner has, uh, indicated they do not want
to combine, combine the three parcels.
Uh, the petitioner must, uh, provide a recorded document
for ingress, egress,
and shared parking between the three
parcels encompassing the project.
13 dash 19 dash 4 3 0
dash oh oh 9 0 13
and oh 14 of Ryan Road.
Uh, this, uh, document must be approved in draft format
for form by the city attorney prior to it being recorded at,
uh, at the, uh, Macomb County Register of Deeds,
uh, condition number four.
The petitioner, uh, indicated that there is no cost
for the project improvements.
However, as, uh, part of the recommendation,
a 20 foot wide front setback area along Orion
Road is to be extended.
And two new crab apples shall be planted in the north end
of the parcel in the new lawn area.
So note, the planting staff recommends a bond the amount,
a thousand of $1,000 as a guarantee
that the tree plantings in new lawn area are provided.
So, uh,
with that Mr.
Chair, the recommendation, uh, is provided and submitted.
Excuse me. We had a very good meeting
as the petitioner, uh, indicated.
As, as you can see, the site plan
is in great, uh, condition.
There are no changes to it at this time. Thank you.
Thank you Mr. Ward. This is a public hearing.
If anyone would like to speak on this item, please come up,
state your name and address for the record
and you'll have three minutes to speak.
Seeing none will turn over to the commission.
I need a motion,
Mr. Chairman,
I'll make a motion to approve,
uh, the recommendation for six a, uh,
as stated, uh, for,
and, uh, open it up for discussion.
Thank you.
Do I have support? Support Beki?
There's a motion by Commissioner dse, support
by Commissioner Beki. Discussion.
Uh, thank you Mr. Chairman.
Um, to the representatives from Pasant, um,
I was on planning a long time ago
and there's the house to the north, um,
that there were two women that lived there.
Um, I have no idea if it's changed ownership or whatever,
but there were, uh, when you were putting the
parking lot in on the north side of it,
have you ever gotten, uh, any complaints from them,
from the neighbor or anything else?
Not to my knowledge. Uh,
'cause there were questions as far as from, uh, uh, Wexford,
uh, to people c
and you guys have really done a terrific job with that, uh,
with screening it off for the neighbors on the Wexford side.
Yeah. But I wanted to know about, um, the,
uh, the house that was just north of it.
Um, and if they haven't said anything
and no complaints about it, then not a problem.
Uh, I think you, uh, meeting our minds was perfect.
That this is a heck of a lot better than it was.
And I'm surprised you're not, uh,
combining the three parcels.
But that's to be understood. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you, sir. Anyone else?
To the petitioners? Good evening service.
Glad you've made it black back.
I'm glad that you were able to work things out with Mr.
Wirth. I had had some questions last time on the driveways,
but I see it's been worked out also.
So, uh, everything looks pretty good
and good luck with what's going on.
So, uh, that was the motion by Commissioner dse, supported
by Commissioner Beke. Roll call.
Commissioner dse. Yes. Commissioner Beke? Yes.
Commissioner Anser? Yes. Commissioner Hollow? Yes.
Commissioner Hawk? Yes. Commissioner Childry? Yes.
Uri votes? Yes. Commissioner Smith?
Yes. Thank you sir. Motion passes. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Have a good evening. You
Too.
Item number six B,
Item number six B site plan for new parking lot
and open storage for repair vehicles.
Located on the south side of nine Mile Road,
approximately 435 feet west of Hoover Road.
1 1 5, 1 0 and 1 1 5.
1 4 9 mile road section 34.
David Daud Coyote Auto Repair
and collision PSP 2 4 0 0 21.
Postponed it from October 21st, 2024.
Planning staff request to continue Pon postponement to
December 16th, 2024.
Thank you.
Thank you ma'am. Secretary, uh, being this is postponed to
December 16th, 2024, I need a motion.
Motion to postpone Support Commissioner Childry
The motion by Commissioner Beki supported
by Commissioner Childry roll call.
Um, I have a quick question.
I was wondering is there a reason for the postponement or
There are a lot of issues that are trying
to still be resolved and they haven't been able
to get 'em resolved in time yet,
so I'm giving them a little bit more time
to resolve the issues that were going on.
Sounds good. Thank you.
Go ahead with the roll call Ms.
Uh, commissioner Beki? Yes. Commissioner Childry? Yes.
Commissioner Ansar? Yes. Commissioner Eyy? Yes.
Commissioner Hollow? Yes. Commissioner Hawk? Yes.
Commissioner Murray votes? Yes. Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To postpone to December 16th, 2024.
Item am number six C.
Item number six C subdivision law split
and combination request located on the,
on the northeast corner of Cadillac Avenue
and Macau Bluebird, uh, parcel
three parcels lot 2 1 1 1 13 dash 34 dash
1 32 dash um, 0 0 6
lot 2 1 1 2 13 dash 34 dash 1 32
dash oh five lot 2 1 3 13 dash 34
dash 1 32 dash oh four to be combined
and split into two parcels.
Section 34 2 2 7 A
2 2 7 16.
2 2 7 2 8.
MacArthur Boulevard, city of Warren, Tom Bato,
PSLS 2 4 0 1.
Thank you.
Thanks ma'am. Secretary is the representative
for the city here for this property.
Good evening sir.
Good evening Commissioners.
Uh, Bob Weidner, community Development
Block Grant City of Warren.
Tell us a little bit about what your project
Yes, these were tax reverted properties
that the city got back through.
Um, the tax revert obviously.
And we want to combine them and split 'em
and we plan to build two new construction homes on
the new lots.
Alright. Thank you sir. Correspondence,
Correspondence, taxes, current fire project
PSLS 2 4 0 0 1 has been approved on, um,
10 21 20 24 by fire Comcast.
In response to your utility request for the above project,
please refer to the attached map for the location
of the Comcast CTV slash fiber facilities.
Aerial cables are highlighted in orange for fiber
and yellow for Coke's.
Cable underground is highlighted in blue for fiber
and green for Cokes cable.
If we can be of further assistance, please feel free
to contact us by email at CCC utility
request@teamsigma.com.
D-T-E-D-T-E Electric Company has reviewed the site plan
for the subdivision loss play and combination request.
DTE Electric Company has no objection to the site plan
for the subdivision loss split
and combination request impacting 2 2 7 0 8 uh dash
2 2 7 16 dash 2 2 7 2 8 Macau Boulevard,
section 34 per the site plan provided.
If you have any questions, please feel free to, uh,
please do not hesitate
to contact me at
5 8 6 7 8 3 1 9 7 8. Thank you.
Thank you ma'am. Secretary Plain
Department's recommendation.
It is recommended that the lot split
and combination be approved subject
to the standard conditions of the planning commission
and more specifically, number one, provide 15 copies
of revised survey plans indicating the following.
One A, the plan shall include survey certification language
by the licensed surveyor, one B, the existing driveway
to Cadillac Avenue one C, the sidewalk from the dwelling
to the front public sidewalk.
1D sidewalks along MacArthur Boulevard and Cadillac Avenue.
One e sidewalk ramp on the corner
of MacArthur Boulevard and Cadillac Avenue.
One F um,
the three trees along the west front property lines
one g the existing chain link fences along MacArthur
Boulevard and Cadillac Avenue with a note to be removed.
One HA chain link fence along the common property of lots.
2 1, 2, 2, 1, 1, 2 and 2, 1, 1 3
and one I add fences along the north
and east property lines of the overall property.
Number two, the following variances shall be obtained from
the zoning board of appeals prior to approval
by the city council to a parcel A shall have variances
for lot width and square footage
and two b parcel B shall have a variance for lot width.
Number three, the lots
and abutting streets shall be graded and drained.
The petitioner must send a letter to the public service
director requesting an inspection of the site.
The director in turn forwards the request
to the engineering division to perform the inspection.
A copy, copy of the positive results
of the inspection shall be
provided to the planning department.
And number four, the utilities companies be given the
opportunity to obtain any easements they may require.
Number five, approval of the city council shall be obtained.
City council approval shall become effective upon compliance
with all conditions listed.
The petitioner shall co complete the conditions
within one one.
Year. Number six,
the petitioner must provide the planning department
with documentation indicating that all conditions
as assigned are completed.
The department then notifies the city clerk
that a certified copy of the resolution shall be recorded
with the Macomb County Register of Deeds.
And this ends the recommendation.
Thanks Ms. Michelle. This is a public hearing.
If anybody would like to speak on this
item, please come down.
State your name for the record, your address,
and you will have three minutes to speak.
Seeing them one. Turn it over to the commission.
Commissioner Smith make a motion to prove for discussion
support.
Zay
Has a motion by Commissioner Hollow.
Support by Commissioner
Dse. Discussion.
Can I have the petitioner
or the city representative?
My mistake.
Yes sir. Couple questions.
Um, when are these, there's one home
that you're saying gonna be, uh, destroy, uh,
demolished or turned on?
Yes. It's in the severe dilapidated condition
that will one house there will be demolished
and then we'll put um, one house on the corner
and the one house on in fill lot.
And what type of homes are you thinking
of putting there? The
One on the corner will be a bungalow.
It's similar to the one we built on the corner
of Maxwell and MacArthur.
Okay. If you guys are familiar with that house.
And the one next to it will be a,
we call it a shotgun ranch.
Um, and it's similar to the ones that we built on Timkin
and MacArthur and Republican and MacArthur.
Yeah, I'm familiar with that area.
I live in that area of horn. Okay. Yeah.
So those, so it looks like it'd be a good project
to put some new homes into one that can be,
I presume gonna be sold.
Yes, we sell 'em to first time home buyers.
We don't no landlords, um, to load
to moderate income people.
And um, it helps to stabilize the neighborhood, part
of the neighborhood, neighborhood
stabilization, uh, problem program.
So, and as far as I know, we're only one
of the few people building in South Warren.
Uh, it's community development.
Okay. Thank I have no more questions.
Thank you. Anyone else like to speak
Mr. Chairman? Yes.
Uh, I'm glad you're still up there.
Um, I thought that combining these three
and making 'em into two would make it a true R one C uh,
lots, but, uh, it's 108 feet or 109 feet
and no matter if you split it in half, it's not gonna get
to the 60 foot.
Um, are all of the, uh, lots in that area
40 foot or between 36 and 40 foot?
Yeah, I would say most of 'em yes, definitely are no
More. 'cause it originally
started off as R one C,
which is 60 foot.
Yes, they're, they're, as far as we're concerned,
their 40 is probably the biggest ones
that we found out here.
The city gets tax revert.
Okay. Uh, no, I just wanted to know if, uh,
if they have dispensation for 36
and 37 foot lots, would that apply to these two
That I, uh, lots.
Yeah, that I don't know.
Does anybody know?
Can, Can you please repeat the
Question there?
The three lots are getting combined
and it's about 108 hundred nine feet
and it's R one C, which is 60 foot, um,
uh, frontage.
Now, if they were split to 36 to 38 feet per this,
wouldn't the, the, um,
the dispensation from the zoning board
of appeals apply to this?
Or is this going completely different than turning it into
37, 39 foot?
Well, looking at the history, so this plat, um,
it was, this was created back in like the 1920s.
'cause this right, this actual like subdivision was recorded
back in like 1923.
So these lots were created at that size.
So at the third, like the size that they are,
like 36 40 feet, that's how they originally were platted.
Really? I thought they were R one C
and then split in halff from
There. I mean it was zoned that
way, but they were platted
smaller originally.
Alright. 'cause they were created
before the zoning ordinance.
Okay. So, so then they've never been in front
of zoning board of appeals?
No, I would say no.
Okay. That, that was my question.
I didn't want to double it up. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Thank you sir. Anyone else like
to speak dear?
Petitioner, can you come back up please?
Yes, you
Good evening, sir.
Good evening. It's been, I, this how
that Yellow House has been an eyesore for quite a while.
Yes. It'd be nice to get two new houses there.
Plus another good thing about,
there's a school right across the street.
So there is elementary school and middle school
and a high school right across the street.
So if you got a person with a family in it, you know,
then schools are close by.
So that's a good selling factor also.
Yes, that is. Um, the people that, um,
bought our house on MacArthur
and Maxwell, they actually went to Lincoln
and were high school sweethearts
and now they live across from the school.
So that's part of the, the program is we wanna keep people
who grew up in the neighborhood
so they can still stay in the neighborhood.
And then we build a great house too.
Our house is our very nice
and, uh, like I said, it stabilizes a neighborhood.
It puts a homeowner into, um, into,
into their not a, not a landlord.
And it really, we find that they take care
of their houses and they love 'em.
They show 'em off and it's really a good program.
Very good, sir. I hope the program continues.
Me too. Thank you. That was the motion
by Commissioner Hollow Wadi supported
by Commissioner dse. Roll call
Commissioner Hollow Wadi.
Yes. Commissioner dse? Yes. Commissioner Ansar. Yes.
Commissioner Hawk. Yes. Commissioner Childry? Yes.
Commissioner Beki? Yes. Commissioner Murray Botez.
Commissioner Smith? Yes.
To approve. Thank you sir.
Have a good evening and good luck with the project.
Hopefully we'll see more like that.
Item number six D,
Item number 60 site plan for a parking lot expansion
and an existing Hindu temple located on the south side
of nine Mile Road, approximately
1056 feet east of Warner Avenue.
3 5 6 0
and 3 5 2 0 9 mile road, section 31 Ram
Rama Kna ra slash swami
sarva devna.
Um, Jeffrey granna slash mtech.
PS P 2 4 0 0 2 6. Sorry, about what?
Ring the name. Thank you.
Thanks Madam Secretary. Is petitioner here? Yes.
Can you come up please? Um, good evening, sir.
Tell us a little bit about your project.
Yes, my name is Jeffrey Graham. I'm the project architect.
I work for Mtech and Associates.
Uh, I'm representing the elders of the, uh, of the,
of the Hindu temple.
The temple's been there for four, for four years.
Four or five years. Um, and it's, uh, it's grown.
You know, it's a growing f it's a growing facility.
The, uh, they now have about, uh,
they have many more families
and they have about 70 people now that attend at one time,
maximum at one time.
What we've, and we currently have about 21 parking spaces.
Um, uh, we would like to ex actually it was 24,
but we're gonna lose a few by putting the driveways
to connect the two parking lots.
So the, so the existing number
of existing parking spaces will drop to 21,
but we're adding 58 parking spaces.
So we'll have a total of 79 parking spaces.
This is not only, this is more than what we need
that this date, but we're also planning for the future.
We believe that the, that, that the temple
will, will, will grow.
And uh, that's why we're asking.
We're asking, uh, for this, uh,
and we hope that you consider our petition.
Thank you sir. Correspondence,
Correspondence, taxes, current fire.
The Warren Fire Department approves this site plan.
If you have any questions, please feel free
to contact me at 5 8 6 7 5 6 2 8 0 0.
Extension code 3 3 0 0 Comcast in your in,
in response to your utility request for the above project,
please refer to the test map for the location of Comcast
CTV slash fiber facilities.
Aerial cables are highlighted in orange for fiber
and yellow for Cokes.
Cable underground is highlighted in blue for fiber
and green for Cokes cable.
If we can be of further assistance, please feel free
to contact us by email at
ccc utility dot request@teamsigma.com.
D-T-E-D-T-E electric company has reviewed the site plan
for a parking lot expansion for an existing Hindu temple.
DTE electric company has no objection to the site plan
for a parking lot expansion
for an existing Hindu temple impacting 3 5 6 0
and 3 5 2 0 9 mile road section 31 part
of the site plan provided.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate
to contact me at
5 8 6 7 8 3 1 9 7 8. Thank you.
Thanks ma'am. Secretary Planning
department's recommendation
Is recommended that the site plan
for parking lot expansion
for an existing Hindu temple be approved
with the standard conditions of the planning commission
and more specifically, number one, five copies
of revised site plans must be submitted
indicating the following.
One a update the location map on the site plan
to match the vicinity map provided on the survey plan one B.
The six foot high brick
and boss poured concrete wall shall be continued along the
west property line adjacent to the residential use.
And that's per section 5.11 subsection five
of the zoning ordinance or a variance from the zoning board
of appeals shall be obtained.
Number two, uh,
the planning commission waived the trash enclosure as part
of the October 7th, I'm sorry, October 9th,
2, 20 17 site plan for a new religious institution.
The note on the plan stated
that trash shall be retained in the building
and disposed of privately.
The petitioner shall report
to the planning department in five years from now
how they're handling trash.
So it's now been approximately seven years since
that last approved site plan.
The plan shall indicate if trash is still disposed
of privately or if they're in need
of a trash area on the site.
If so, a trash enclosure shall also be
provided meeting the standard
conditions of the planning commission.
And number three, the two parcel numbers identified
as 13 dash three one dash 21 3
and that's 3 5 2 9 mile
and 13 3 1 2 0 1 3 3.
Um, that's, uh, well 1 3 5 6 0, uh,
must be combined into one parent parcel.
An application has been submitted
to the planning department and it is in process.
And number four, the following variances may need
to be obtained from the zoning board of appeals prior
to the release of the site plan to the building division.
And a, to construct a parking lot 22.7 feet
from the north property line.
That's nine mile road B for a lot depth
of 188.5 feet instead of 200
and C to waive the six foot high brick
and boss poured concrete wall along the west property line.
And number five, a performance bond in the amount
of $2,130 B posted according to the estimated cost
of $71,000 by the petitioner.
And this ends the recommendation.
Thank you, Um, to the chair if I may,
I did miss out the second page of the correspondence,
so if I may complete that.
Sure, go ahead. Thank you. Okay. Sorry about that.
MCPW, the Macomb County Public's works office MCPW has
reviewed the site plan for the project reference above
and has determined that the site is located within the Beer
Creek inner county drain, uh, drain drainage district.
And the beer creek drain is located 85 feet
north of the property line.
Any storm water discharge
to the beer creek drain will require A-M-C-P-W-O storm water
review and approval.
Any storm water discharge
to the nine mile road storm water system is under the city
of Warren's jurisdiction
and would require their approval prior
to the site plan approval.
It is highly recommended that the design consultants
and landowner schedule an engineering meeting
with this office to discuss how our standards may apply
by contacting Heather Morin at heather dot
mor@mccombgov.org
or 5 8 6 3 0 7 8 2 8 0.
Any site disturbance over one AC acre will require the
proposed site to confirm with the MCP W'S procedures
and design standards manual form storm stormwater
management, uh, review section V for stormwater detention
and drain easements requirements. Thank you.
Thank you ma'am. Secretary, this is a public hearing.
If anybody would like to speak on this item, please come up,
state your name and address for the record
and you'll have three minutes to speak.
Good evening. My name's Joe Debrowski.
I'm the resident directly behi behind this property.
First I would like to state the last two owners
of this property were absolute horrible neighbors.
Um, about 28
or 29 years ago when they put up the fence that's there now,
they put it up backwards, a wooden fence.
It was brought to the city's attention at the time.
They said on several occasions they
would make 'em repair it.
Well, several times parts of the fence has fallen down.
Somebody's come out and patched it back together.
It's fallen down again.
I tried contacting, uh, Jeffrey Graham Mc Mtech
to try and talk to the petitioners.
He didn't find it necessary to even call me back
to discuss the situation.
I'm here on behalf of myself and my neighbor
and I want to just make sure these are gonna
be good neighbors.
I heard her mention a brick wall along
the West Property line.
What about the south property line?
A couple years ago these people had a party
from daylight to dark.
They played music so loud I could hear it over my air
conditioner in my television in my house.
Now I, since I've talked to the owner
and he says they're not gonna do that anymore.
All their parties are gonna be inside, which is fine.
The other thing is they're talking about expanding.
I dunno if you guys have rode around
and looked at all the new facilities
that have been put in place in the city of Warren recently.
If you look at their parking, it is so overflowed.
It's onto the side streets.
It's in the grass in front of their facilities.
We need to stop
and we need to put some tighter restrictions in all these
things before we allow them to move forward.
We're getting old. Just the traffic is overrunning the
neighborhoods when you can't move.
Because if you ride down nine mile
where the old Salvation Army is on a weekend,
every parking lot, this the credit union across the street,
the old red apple, the side street, there's cars everywhere.
You just, you can't move.
So you need to put a restriction on
how many people they're allowed to have,
how many cars they're allowed to have.
And the brick wall, I thought it was a new requirement
that you had to, any new project had to have a brick wall
between the business and residential.
Well, she said they were gonna put one along the west
property line and then she said they waived that
the house next door, which is the,
was the original owner of the property.
So I think you guys should check
and make sure all those things are gonna happen
and don't give him an unlimited amount
of time to do any of this.
'cause the last person got all these approvals
and then it sat for roughly two
years and he never did anything.
And now these people ended up with the property.
So hopefully we won't have this problem start all over again
where it's another two years
and they don't do anything. Thank you.
Thank you sir. May I
address those comments?
Is uh, you're the petitioner? Yes.
May I address those Comments?
Let's see if there's any other Sure.
Um, public hearing items
and then you can come up and address.
Sure. Anybody else that come, like
to come up and speak on this matter?
Okay, sir, you can come up then. Um,
If you look at the drawing, we are extending the, um,
actually it's a notary wall,
but a concrete wall all the way along the southern
edge of the property.
So that property you will probably will have a,
have a solid wall protecting you
from the, from the parking lot.
Um, as far as, uh, to be honest, I've never, sir,
I've never got a message from you.
I Called her office. They basically told me
that you wouldn't be interested to call back.
Swear they should not have said that.
I would definitely would've called you back.
They do you know who you talked to?
Because that's completely Yes,
Sir. Sir,
sir. Okay.
Any questions you have to need
to address us and then we can talk. Okay.
And then the, um,
the other variance was the other two variances.
One was the front setback for the parking.
We just wanted to match up with the existing parking lot so
that it all looked even across the, the two, the three lots.
And then, um, and then we are gonna request the,
the wall on the west side that's facing that small
because we are providing a green belt
between their property.
We're building a new fence, a wire fence.
They're gonna build a green light, a green strip,
and then the parking lot.
And, um, and also that, that portion
of the parking lot probably won't be used for quite a while.
'cause as, as we, as we were saying earlier,
this is not only for what we need now, it,
we actually have enough parking for our current use,
but we, we hope to have, uh, a growth, an element
of growth in this into the, into the temple.
Thank you. Those are my comments.
Thank you, sir. Um,
if there's no one else would like to speak,
we'll turn it over to commission.
Mr. Chair, can I make a motion to approve the site plan
for a parking lot expansion for an existing Hindu temple?
I support it. There's a motion
by Commissioner Iza, some
Discussion Supported by Commissioner Hawk discussion?
Yes. Okay.
Uh, I would like to ask the petitioner
Yes, sister, can you come up please?
Yes, Yes.
Uh, so we hear some complaint from the neighbors.
So how do you handle like, uh, let's say the music,
loud music and, uh, the other things?
Well, the only, the only complaint we heard, uh, was the,
the one time when they had a party
and then the gentleman talked to the, one of the elders
and they've agreed to keep all their
parties inside the building.
So that's, so whenever we,
whenever there was a problem, it was responded
to immediately and a solution was, was, was developed.
Thank you. Uh, another things, uh, I would like to ask,
uh, is it required by the, you know,
the zoning department to put a brick wall
between the business and the residential or not?
Yes, we are. We have a, uh,
if you look at the drawings on the south side of the,
of the south property line, I will, I, I will repeat.
It says, I, I mean I will.
It says extend six foot, six, six foot thick concrete,
sorry, six inch thick concrete wall, six feet tall,
tall at a 45 degree angle cap to end,
end of the property line.
See, detailed this sheet.
So not only do we say that we are doing that, but we also
provided a, a, a, a, a de a detail at the bottom
of the sheet as to how we're gonna build that wall.
Okay. Thank you. Uh,
Mr. Chairman, anyone else?
Mr. Chairman, if I may, Mr. dse?
Uh, thank you. Um, do you have, have you talked
to anybody in the, um, uh,
Macomb County Public Works department yet, or,
or anybody as far as water, uh, how you're gonna deal
with the water in the parking lot?
Yes. Uh, we haven't actually talked to the, we've talked
to members of the, of the engineering department at, uh,
the engine I talked with, we had a meeting with, with Mr.
Ron Worth. Okay.
And we had somebody from the engineering
and it was determined that we were less than an acre.
So we don't have to do retention,
but we will have, I mean, our,
our company Chem tech is also a site engineering company
as well as a survey company.
So our, once we get approval on this,
then I'll switch this over to the next department
and they'll handle the site engineering
and that's, they'll be the res I'll have my,
we have in-house people,
so they will be talking to the McComb.
We do this on a, we have a pretty good
staff of about 80 people.
So we do, we do this on a daily basis.
Well, I'm, I'm concerned about where the water's gonna go.
Well, I, And I'm sure you can appreciate that. Sure.
Uh, having the neighbors show up, uh, and,
and their basement's flooded and so on
and so forth is not my idea of, of good planning.
But, um, if you're going to go over this with, uh,
Macomb County and the City of Warren, then uh,
I hope this is addressed during your meetings.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Thank You Mr. Doe.
Hall chairman. Okay. Just, uh, couple quick questions.
Um, I don't know if you can answer
or the elders, uh, when did the, uh, the one resident said,
uh, the previous two owners, are these, uh,
new owners to the property?
Yes. We just bought the property this year.
Oh, just this year. So these are new owners of
that Hindu temple that's there now?
Yes. Mm-Hmm. Okay.
So they, so the past, what's happened in the past few years,
they can't really be held responsible?
What's, I hope not. No, really not.
Hopefully they could be, hopefully better consideration
and better neighbors.
Mm-Hmm. That, you know, we all have
to live together in the City of Ward.
And just a quick question. Uh, what time, uh, are there?
Uh, I know they probably have services.
It's on Sundays.
Um, cool.
It's at Sunday at 4:00 PM
Okay. Thank you.
No more questions.
Anyone else like to speak on this?
Um, I have one quick question too.
Um, uh, is there, if everything goes as we expect,
everything goes good,
is there a deadline on when you plan on kind
of having all this up
and running all everything completed by,
Um, I, I wouldn't say there's a hard and steady deadline,
but we, um, as far as we don't have to,
we're not worried about financing, if that's the thing.
This is this org uh, this temple is part
of a greater community.
Um, it's actually the headquarters are in Chicago, so
it's just, it's a matter of them freeing up money.
So it's not like we have to have fundraising, bake sales
and things like that to pay for this.
It, it'll be paid for by the organization. Sure, sure.
I would like to add a line to what Jeff has said.
This temple that we are talking about right now is a part
of a worldwide organization
to the headquarters are in India, the eastern part of India.
But their strict policies,
they do not finance any project individual centers.
They, they, they'll have to support themselves.
They do not provide any finance for,
for the individual centers around the world.
The individual centers have to collect their money
or raise the money and, uh, work for the themselves.
The center, the headquarters will not provide any money.
So the, there are centers all over the world in the North
America and Canada and US.
There are over now 25 centers.
That's what I wanted to add. Thank
You. Um,
with the, I'm so sorry.
Not mean to cut you with the centers,
not the headquarters, not providing the money.
Is your plan to fundraise and Yes. Fund this project?
Yes. Oh, I was doing it from Chicago.
No, this, uh, this center in Detroit is,
comes under the jurisdiction of the Chicago.
Okay. Chicago. And there's a headquarter,
but they also, basically, they,
they are also limited to the funds.
So all we have to do is we have to support ourselves
by the individual programs
and fundraising, uh, events that we have to do.
Neither the Chicago
nor the the India headquarters in be
they are not going to provide the funds.
They will, they might help. Yes.
I apologize. I misunderstood what they were saying.
'cause we were always, I've always been talking
to people in Chicago, so I assumed that they were the ones
that, okay, sure.
We had to get approval from the people in Chicago. Yeah.
That, that, as I said Jeff, that this uh, Detroit center
as this started like four years ago,
and it comes under the jurisdiction of the Chicago region.
Chicago. He comes here in summer at at
least four or five times in the summer,
gives a religious program retreat.
And a lot of people come
and tell, he's very respectable around the whole this thing.
So people come and, uh, give money, give
with Geico donations and they listen
to his talks and things like that.
But yeah, again, that money he
Try to, Yeah.
Okay. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you sir. Can, can we get your name?
My name? Yeah, Your name for the record, please. Okay,
I'll do that. I'll
do, yes sir.
Any Other discussion? I have a question.
Uh, can I call him again?
Oh, sir, can you come back?
As you mentioned that, you know, uh, it's part
of the organization, uh, from India.
Uh, can you please, uh, give us the name,
the organization name,
Ram, the, the organization,
the worldwide organization is known as Ram Krishna Mut
and Mission Rama Krishna Mu and Mission.
But in here, what we call is the Ram Krishna Ashram.
Okay. Ashram means the kind of heritage, you know,
but the worldwide organization is popularly known
as you can see in on the internet,
Ram Krishna Mu and Mission.
So it is going to be the branch
of the same organization. This
Is part of the same organization.
I would not, I won't say the branch branch is too big.
Mm-Hmm. We are not as big as a branch,
but it is a part of the same organization.
We, we call it Ram Krishna Ashram is
some kind of heritage, you know.
So for this temple, everything will be handled by the,
your headquarter, like a main organization.
The, it'll be like administratively.
It is under the jurisdiction of the ashram in Chicago.
The, the person in charge of the Chicago ASAM.
And he visits several ashram at least five, six times a year
and encourages people
and kind of inspires people to, uh, do things. You know,
The name of the organizations are on the site plan.
Okay. Thank, thank you. Thank you for explaining.
Thank you very much. Any other discussion?
Come on out. Sorry. Thank
You.
I understood that there was a question about the timeline
and I didn't understand whether that was answered.
I am hoping that there is a timeline, um, for the residents
and for the commission to know.
So I guess that's, uh,
Thank you, sir.
We'll, we'll ask the petitioner through
The, through the, uh, chair to, uh, the petitioner.
I'd like to ask what the timeline is
Soon as we figure it out To the petitioner.
You can come up please again.
Yeah. There, they're, they're be they, they're thinking
that they can get everything done in two years.
In two years. Okay.
And how soon do we think they will start?
We don't know. Depends on the finances.
Depends on what comes from the Right.
There's the word that comes from Chicago
is gonna determine a lot of us.
Yeah, well they have to get everything they do, they have
to get approvals from Chicago.
Okay. So that, that is also a, a, a, uh,
a disruption there with every decision.
But once all the approvals are done,
then they can start the construction and
They're thinking of two years.
It should be done within two years. Yeah.
Uh, keep in mind that they built, they,
they bought the building for it took 'em about two years
to buy the property,
converted over from office buildings into a temple
and build the, and, and renovate the parking lot
for that building as well.
'cause the parking lot was in bad shape.
So they, it took 'em about two years to get this far.
And now, and this will be even easier
because it's just a parking lot.
They, they don't renovating a building.
Alright. Thank you sir. Thank you.
That was a motion by Commissioner Ansar, supported
by Commissioner h Hulk. Roll call
Commissioner. Answer.
Yes. Commissioner Hawke? Yes. Commissioner er?
Yes. Commissioner Hollow. Yes. Commissioner Chadri? Yes.
Commissioner Bernanki? Yes. Commissioner Murray votes? Yes.
Commissioner Smith? Yes.
To approve. Thank you sir. Good luck with everything.
Thank you. And like I say, hopefully you'll get started soon
and you have two years to complete your project.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Have a good evening.
I'm number six E
Item number six, E revised site plan
for open storage of service trucks.
Located on the southwest corner of Mount Road
and Heatherdale Avenue.
2 7 6 6 3 Mount Road, section 17.
Anthony Lentin, JAL properties in invest.
JAL Property Investments Inc.
PSP 2 3 0 0 3 1.
This was originally approved on February 26th, 2024.
Thank you.
This is a public hearing. This is a petitioner.
Tell us a little bit about your project.
Good evening, sir. Good
Evening, commissioners.
Um, my name is Anthony Tini
and I'm the owner of the property
and the landlord to, uh, LECOM Utility Contractors.
And we're here today to request an expansion
of our current open storage area to facilitate the need
of our tenant LECOM utility contractors
for some additional parking of utility trucks.
Um, that's the main thrust of, uh, our request.
Thank you, sir. Correspondence,
Correspondence, taxes, current fire revised comments.
Um, 10 21 20 24.
The Warren Fire Department approves this site plan.
If you have any questions,
please contact me at 5 8 6 7 5 6 2 8 0 0.
Extension code 3 3 0 0 Comcast
revised comments on 10 28 20 24.
In response to your utility request for the above project,
please refer to the test map for the location of Comcast
CTV slash fiber facilities.
Aerial cables are highlighted in orange for fiber
and yellow for Cokes.
Cable underground is highlighted in blue for fiber
and green for Coke's cable.
If we can be of further assistance, please con, feel free
to contact us by email at
CCC utility dot request@teamsigma.com.
The previous comments from 2 26 20 24 fire,
the Warren Fire Department approves this site plan.
If you have any questions,
please contact me at 5 8 6 7 5 6 2 8 0 0
extension 3 3 0 0.
Engineering, uh, preliminary review of this site,
yelled at the following comments
from the engineering division.
Number one, variance shall be required for open storage
and it doesn't have anymore.
So thank you so much. Thanks
Ma'am. Secretary
Planning Department's recommendation,
It is recommended that the revised site plan
for open storage of service trucks be approved
with the standard conditions of the planning commission
and more specifically, number one, five copies
of revised site plans must be submitted
indicating the following.
One, a, change the number from seven
to six in the 1,800 square foot square footage.
Open storage area one B, the row of parking in front
of the building as indicated
as 18 parking spaces, but there are 16.
The two barrier free ramps shall be
provided with crosshatching one C
and the site data chart,
a new line item labeled leased area shall be located just
below the line item labeled site area.
The leased area shall size shall be indicated as 1.03 acres.
Another line item labeled total site area shall be located
just below the line item labeled leased area.
The total site area shall be indicated as four acres.
Number two, the following variances may need
to be obtained from the zoning board of appeals prior
to the release of the, of the site plan
to the billing division two a a use variance
for the storage located on parcel 13 dash
17 dash 4 27 dash zero three.
The property is zoned R one P one family residential
and parking district to be the, I'm sorry,
to exceed the allowable amount of open storage.
The seven open storage areas total 23,763 square feet.
Therefore, variance from the zoning board of appeals
to exceed the allowable amount of open storage
by 6,741 square feet is required.
And to see, to retain the chain link fence set back one foot
from the north property line
and that's Heathdale Avenue number three, uh,
two open storage areas proposed
to be located within the leased area.
Each containing 2,880 square feet
of area are not indicated on Exhibit C
of the amended revocable license to use drain easement.
The easement document shall be amended once again describing
the use of the leased area from the Bear
Creek Drainage District.
A copy of the recorded amended easement shall be
submitted to the planning department.
And number four, a performance bond in the amount
of $0 be posted according to the estimated cost
of uh, zero by the petitioner.
The planning staff believes
that the proposed bond amount is too low, given the fact
that the additional trees for screening
of the open storage are part of the improvements,
a new estimated shall be
provided closer to $5,000 resulting in a cash
bond in the amount of 500.
And this ends the recommendation.
Thank you Ms. Thank you Ms. Michelle.
This is a public hearing.
If anybody would like to speak on
this item, please come forward.
State your name and address for the record
and you'll have three minutes to speak.
Seeing none will turn over to the commission.
Commissioner, make A motion to approve
Support.
That was a motion by Commissioner Hollow
and support by Commissioner dse.
Any discussion?
We adding the $500 bond?
Yes. Adding the $500 bond.
Any discussion to the petitioner?
Can you come up please?
Good evening, sir.
Good evening. I know when you guys first came
to us years ago and you thought you had enough space
and then all of a sudden you didn't have enough space
and you're trying to expand out further.
Yes. But I drove through and I saw how you got these areas.
You've already got trucks in the areas
and materials in the areas where you gonna have storage now.
And even with all the added stuff,
it still looks fairly organized.
Yeah, we're we're, they're working hard
to keep it real clean and neat.
Okay. So do you understand all the,
the recommendations and everything? I
Do and I'm already got the engineer working on the
engineering changes and, uh, I'm already working
with the Bear Creek District to, uh,
amend the LTU, the license to use.
Okay. Very good. Sir. Uh, that was a motion by Mr. Hollow.
Wadi supported by Commissioner Dee. Roll call
Commissioner Hollow.
Yes. Commissioner er? Yes. Commissioner Anser? Yes.
Commissioner Hawk? Yes. Commissioner Childry? Yes.
To approve Commissioner Beki? Yes.
To approve Commissioner Murray
votes? Yes. Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To approve. Good luck with your project, sir.
Thank you. Hopefully you won't need any more space.
Thank you. Item number six F
Item number six F site plan for open storage
for truck and trailer storage.
Located on the south side of 11 Mile Road,
approximately 643 feet east of Sherwood Avenue.
Section 21 6 5 0 0 11 Mile Road.
Uh, CFA Camper,
C-T-T-L-L-C-P-S 2 4 0 0 2 5. Thank you.
Thank you. Mad chair secretary is
the petitioner here this evening.
Good evening. You wanna tell
us a little bit about your project?
Good evening. Um, my name is Ika Kamara
and I am the owner of CTT Trucking Company.
Uh, we bought a property in 2021.
It was actually trucking company before us.
And um, we received notes this summer
that we have to submit site plan for the parking
we already have for the building, but not for the parking.
So we we're trying to do everything to improve
and be compliant with City of Water.
Alright, thank you ma'am. Thank you.
Correspondence, Correspondence, taxes, current fire.
The Warren Fire Department approves this site plan.
If you have any questions,
please contact me at 5 8 6 7 5 6 2 8 0 0.
Extension code 3 3 0 0 5, uh, Comcast.
In response to your utility request for the above project,
please refer to the test map for the location of Comcast
CTV slash fiber facilities.
Aerial cables are highlighted in orange for fiber
and yellow for Cokes.
Cable underground is highlighted in blue for fiber
and green for Cokes cable.
If we can be of further assistance, please feel free
to contact us by email at c ccc utility
dot request@timsigma.com. Thank you.
Thank you ma'am. Secretary Plain
Department's recommendation
Is recommended that the site plan for open storage
for truck and trailer, truck
and trailers be approved with the standard condition
of the planning commission
and more specifically, number one, five copies
of revised site plans must be
submitted indicating the following.
One A the petitioner is proposing
storage 19 feet from the front.
That's 11 mile road property line.
The storage is visible from anyone traveling
along 11 mile road.
Plant two evergreen trees or shrubs
and two deciduous trees or shrubs.
Recommended species include avid trees,
eastern white pine crab, apple or service berry one B.
Update the parking calculation on the site plan
to the following, one parking space
for each 1,200 square feet of gross floor area number
one C, change the word handy in the parking analysis
to accessible parking.
One DA note shall be
provided stating all lighting on the site shall be shielded
and not encroach upon abiding properties.
The light poles shall be no higher than 20 feet.
All glare shall be eliminated from all light fixtures.
Upward directed lighting shall not be permitted.
One e the non-op operable existing fire
hydrant shall be operable.
One f update the site plan to include existing
and proposed landscaping.
And, um, one g the plan indicates a trash
enclosure will be provided.
Provide the following standard trash enclosure.
Note on the site. Plan a trash enclosure.
Measuring a minimum 10 feet
by 10 feet shall be constructed of six foot high.
Brick embossed poured concrete walls
with 45 degree angle cap.
Have screen gates and be placed upon a minimum
10 feet by 18 feet.
Concrete pad that provides an eight foot wide apron masonary
block shall not be used as a construction material.
Number two, the variances may need
to be obtained from the zoning board of appeals prior
to the release of the site plan to the building division.
And that's to locate open storage, well
to locate open storage,
which may not be any closer than 150 feet from
any street right of way.
Um, the truck storage is located 19 feet from the North 11
mile road property line.
And number three, the petitioner
indicated no cost to the project.
However, there's a trash enclosure
and new landscaping, um,
planning staff believes the proposed bond amount is too low
given the fact that the trash enclosure
and landscaping are part of the improvements
and a bond in the amount of $1,000 shall be provided.
And this ends the recommendation.
Thank you Ms. Michelle. Thank you.
This is a public hearing. Anyone like to speak on this item?
Please come forth. State your name
and address for the record and
you'll have three minutes to speak.
Seeing none will turn over to the commission.
Mr. Chairman, I'll make a motion
to approve this, uh, uh,
with the change in the bond amount, uh,
and for discussion purposes.
Thank you, sir. Anyone Support?
There's a motion by Commissioner dse,
support by Commissioner ansi. Any discussion?
Uh, thank you Mr. Chairman. Um, Ms.
Keara,
Do, Do you need crash enclosures?
I'm sorry, can you repeat the question?
Do you need crash enclosures?
Do you generate enough crash in here to justify a 10
by 10 crash enclosure?
No. Um,
I, We require to have, uh,
you drew one in.
Um, do you have anybody picking anything up out of there
or is it just sitting there rotting or rusting?
They coming every week. Um,
Do they, are, is there stuff in it to throw out?
Yes. Okay. That's all I wanted be.
Then you need a trash enclosure. Yeah.
I was trying to figure out if you really needed one or not,
but if you, if if you're already using it
and so on, then finding dandy.
That was my only question. Thank you Mr. Chair.
Thank you sir. Anyone else
Through the petitioner?
Good evening, ma'am. Uh, you do,
you don't really have a trash enclosure.
You're showing one on the drawing, which you're gonna have
to build one to our standards.
You do have a little dumpster, which is right by the
power pole in the middle of the parking lot.
Yes. There's a guardrail around it.
And you look, got a little dumpster on the side of it
with some yellow markings.
Yes. So that would have to go into a trash enclosure,
which you've got positioned at
the end of the building over there.
Okay. Another thing I noticed is on the drawing
around that power pole within a 10 foot radius all the way
around that power pole,
you can't have any trucks parked there.
And you had semi-truck
and everything parked right up next to the guardrail
where that power pole was at.
Understood, sir.
So you can, so you have to be at least 10 foot clearance all
the way around that pole where parking,
any vehicles. Okay.
I understand. Okay.
Do you have any, uh, do you understand the,
the recommendation and everything?
Yes. Are you okay with the extra bond?
Yes. Okay.
Are there any more, is there any more discussion?
Okay. Roll call please.
That was a, that was a motion by Commissioner dse,
supported by Commissioner Ansar.
Commissioner er. Yes. Commissioner Anza. Yes.
Commissioner Hall. Yes. Commissioner Hawk. Yes.
Commissioner Choudry. Yes. Commissioner Mor Votes? Yes.
Commissioner Beki? Yes. Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To approve ma'am.
Good luck with everything and like I said,
if you do have any questions about anything,
you can always contact the planning department.
But, uh, just make sure you don't keep your clearance
around that big power pole.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Have a good evening. You
Too.
Item number six G.
Item number six G site plan for gate expansion
and parking lot modification located on the west side
of Van D**e Avenue, approximately 1005 1058 feet
south of 14 Mile Road.
3 2 5 0 1 Van D**e Avenue, section four Menard Inc.
Uh, n Brenner PSP 2 4 0 0 2 8. Thank you.
Good evening, is the petitioner here.
Good evening, sir. You wanna
tell us a little bit about your project?
Alright. Uh, my name is
Pat Weal. I'm subbing
in for Nick Brennan tonight,
but I'm a real estate representative from Bernard Inc.
Um, good evening Planning, uh, members
of the planning commission, uh, Bernard Inc.
Is requesting a site site plan, approval
for a gate expansion
and parking layout modification at the Menards,
located at 3 2 5 0 1 Van D**e Ave.
Um, this project will add an express lane
to the existing men Menards, uh, yard entrance gate, um,
by utilizing existing paved areas currently used
by seven parking spaces.
Um, men, Menards started doing these gate expansions
about seven years ago.
Uh, this is one of our final stores to get this upgrade.
Um, the gate expansion streamlines the entrance into our
yard area, um, by adding a third lane to allow, um,
customers with a, uh, printed receipt from inside the store
to enter the yard area.
And helps us stay competitive as,
as online sales have increased over the years as well.
'cause it, it kind of in,
or it speeds up the flow of traffic into our yard area for,
for pickup of sales.
Um, this project was previously approved in 2021.
Um, our timing and our construction schedule, uh,
ended up bumping it out, um,
a little further than we anticipated.
And, and it didn't, uh, get accomplished
before our approvals expired.
Um, we also made a change to the project
where we're gonna leave the existing, uh, transformer
and, uh, generator in place.
Um, the outdoor yard sale area will not be
increasing during this project.
It will all stay the same. It's just adding the,
the extra lane to the, to the yard.
Thank you sir. Correspondence.
Correspondence, um, taxes, current fire,
the weren't fire, the fire department has approved this site
plan at 3 2 5 0 1 Van D**e on 10 22 20 24
D-T-E-D-T-E Electric Company has reviewed the site plan
for gate expansion and parking lot modification.
DTE Electric Company has no objection to the site plan
for gate expansion
and parking lot modification impacting 3 2 5 0 1 Van D**e
Avenue, section four per the site plan provided.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate
to contact me at 5 8 6 7 8 3 1 9 7 8
MCPW, the McComb County Public Works office.
M-C-P-W-O has reviewed the site plan
for the project reference above
and has determined this site is not under the jurisdiction
of M-C-P-W-O.
The site is located within the Beaver Creek drainage drain
drainage district,
and is traverse by the be Beaver Creek drain along the
easterly property boundary.
Beaver Lee Creek drain is a natural watercourse and is
therefore not under the jurisdiction of M-C-P-W-O.
Any storm water discharge to the be, uh,
beaver Creek drain will require the approval from Michigan
Department of Environment, great Lakes
and Energy, as well as the city of Warren.
Should the city of Warren require a no abduction letter from
this office, please reach out to we Jan at Wesley.
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department's recommendation,
It is recommended that the site plan for gate expansion
and parking lot modification be approved
with the standard conditions of the planning commission
and more specifically, number one, five copies
of revised site plans must be
submitted indicating the following.
The overall site plan shall include a site data chart
and indicate the outdoor yard sales areas
and past approved variances.
Number two, five copies of revised gate,
expan gate expansion layout plan.
That's zero three must be submitted indicating the following
to a, the generator, transformer,
and CT cabinet shall be indicated on the gate expansion
layout plan to B, the plan shall be stamped
and signed by the plan preparer.
And number three, a performance bond
and the amount of $3,750 shall be posted according
to the estimated cost of $125,000 by the petitioner.
And this ends the recommendation.
Thank you Ms. Michelle. Mm-Hmm. This is a public hearing.
Everybody like to speak on this item. Please come forth.
State your name and address for the record
and we'll have three minutes to speak.
Seeing none will turn over to the commission.
I make commissioner, I make a motion to approve.
There's a motion by Mr. Commissioner Hollow. I support it.
Support by Mr. Hawk.
Hulk, any discussion
to the petitioner?
Can you come up please, sir?
Good evening, sir. Good evening.
So, by putting in the extra gate
or the extra lane that will enable to move
materials from the backside
of the store out the front without having to wait in line
to get checked in at the booth.
Yeah. So, so currently you would have to check in
with the gate attendant and they would've
to read your receipt and then scan it and,
and get you in, in, in these scenarios we add a, a kiosk
where your, your receipt has a barcode on it.
You scan it in there, the gate opens
and it allows you to drive to the back area
to pick up your merchandise.
So to make it a little more efficient? Yeah, exactly.
Okay. Allows the gate tenant
to focus their attention more on the folks leaving the yard
area as opposed to the folks entering the yard area.
Okay. Very good. Well,
Menards is doing a good job over there.
Thank you. And, uh, it's an asset to the community,
so good luck with everything.
Appreciate it. Any, no other discussion. Okay.
That was a motion
by Comm Commissioner Hollow Commissioner Hawk roll call.
Commissioner Hollow. Yes. Commissioner Hawk. Yes.
Commissioner Anza? Yes. Commissioner Doe? Yes.
Commissioner Chadri? Yes. Commissioner Beki? Yes.
Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To approve. Good luck with your project, sir.
Thank you very much, Wendy.
Um, how long do you think will you start on it?
I hold 2025 agenda
sometime March, July,
March and July of next year.
Alright. I should ask
that question when I had you up here. You take
About a month and a half.
Alright. Thank you, sir. Have a good evening. You too.
Item number seven, correspondence. Seeing none.
Item number eight, old business
Item number eight, site plan for new retail
and restaurant building located on the east side
of Quida Road, approximately 977, uh,
se 37 feet south of 11 Mile Road,
section 19 2 6 6 2 0 Dedo Road.
Jeffrey Sargent, uh, Michael Malone, PSP two two
PSP 2 0 0 0 3 6 approved on
December 7th, 2022.
First extension request approved to December 7th, 2023.
Second ex extension request approved to December 7th, 2024.
Petitioner is requesting a third extension
to December 7th, 2025. Thank you.
Is the petitioner here this evening?
Good evening, sir. Can you give us a little background on
what's going on with all the extension extensions? Yes,
Absolutely. Thank you. And
good evening commissioners. Good evening.
Um, my name is Kevin Barbier.
I'm here on behalf of the petitioner here.
Um, the petitioner is a, uh, facility that was,
uh, granted a cannabis license.
And, uh, they were a select group of people
to whom the license was awarded to.
Um, and the people that were not the applicants
that were not awarded, um, licenses sued the city.
Um, so the people that won the license licenses intervened.
Um, it went up to the Court of Appeals.
Um, the winners won in the Court of appeals.
The losers then appealed to the Michigan, uh, Supreme Court.
Um, in June, this matter was
remanded to the Court of Appeals.
Um, so at this point, uh, we're not sure if it, if the Court
of Appeals is gonna remand it back to the trial court, um,
or if the court of appeals is going to hear it themselves.
Um, so this extension that we're asking
for is based on litigation that we are not in control of.
Um, and all adjournments that we've asked
for up there are all based on waiting to see
how this lawsuit shakes out.
Um, so we literally cannot move forward.
There's a restraining order in place, you know,
preventing the, the parties that won from doing anything.
Um, you know, we, we love the city of Warren and,
and wanna do business here.
So we're just eagerly awaiting for this lawsuit to, to,
to, to be completed.
And, uh, that is the reason for
this extension request today.
Um, and then, uh, yeah, that is, that is all.
Um, thank you sir. Co. Any correspondence?
Um, I don't have,
I have a letter in correspondence, which I will read.
Um, this is from our planning director Ron w, uh,
to the planning commissioner.
Um, the following reasons are why not
to approve the extension of the site plan.
Number one, the planning director previously made a request
to provide a lock locked gate.
The gate was not locked. A knock box should be used.
The city does not want people to use the site
for reasons other than
to maintain the cell tower facilities.
Um, uh, number two, the title is cannabis facility.
I believe the petitioner wants a provisional center.
The city is in a lawsuit
and hasn't, hasn't resolved the issue of
where provisioning facilities may be approved.
Number three, the letter the petitioner wrote implies
that a building that a building exists on the site,
the old restaurant crash landing building was
demolished number four.
This is the third request for an extension
for the site plan in the fifth year,
uses have changed also waiting for the City of Foreign
to end a lawsuit regarding who and how many locations.
Four provisioning centers are
to be approved may not include this property.
Sincerely, Ron Worth Planning Director. Thank you.
Okay. May I respond?
Let me, let me ask, uh, one question. Mr.
We, did you want comment on that
or are you just letting miss I No comments.
Go ahead and sir, go ahead and respond, answer the question.
Okay. Thank you, sir. Okay.
Um, just for the record, this the letter
that was just read, uh, I was not handed this until I, uh,
checked in before.
So this was the first I was seeing of this, um, going
through this just to address a few of these issues.
Um, we have no issue putting in a NOx box. Um, that's fine.
Um, and number two, it says the city's and a lawsuit
and hasn't resolved the issue of
where the facilities may be approved.
But until they do our licenses
and site plan approval is still good.
Um, and then number four is basically what I was saying,
we're, um, waiting for the city of Warren to end a lawsuit
regarding who and how many locations
for provisioning centers are to be approved.
And it may not include this property, but it may include it.
We don't know until this lawsuit shakes out.
And so I was just wondering,
with all those points addressed, if, you know, Mr.
Wirth and the planning, planning director would change
their position on our approval,
Uh, If we agree to do the Knox Box.
And that seemed like that was the only kind
of outstanding thing here.
I'd like to make a suggestion to you. Sure.
When people go to court, you never know
how long court hearings like this are gonna last.
What I'd like you to, we'd like
to do is not do the extension, have you
pull the project off the table for now
until things get settled in court, and then come back
and then come back with a new site plan. Our,
Well, so our, our site plan, if we would,
we would lose out on the license we were granted.
So alternatively, I would ask for this to be tabled
to the next meeting so that our attorney, Chris ael,
can work through this letter with Mr.
Wirth and, um, you know, work on these issues
because I believe a, a resolution can be reached here.
And, you know, we were one of the few people
that were granted licenses
and, um, yeah, that, I mean the,
the whole reason we're asking
for this approval is this court case.
And, um, again, and alternatively if we can table it so Mr.
Aiello can work with Mr.
Wirth to, you know, work through these issues and hopefully
and obtain the,
hopefully obtain the planning director's approval.
Well, the only concern that we have with
that is it's been almost five years now.
'cause we started in 2020, so it's already been, usually we,
we give extensions, we only give 'em for two years.
So we've already passed two of the extensions already.
And that's the reason we suggesting that you just maybe
pull it out for now
and maybe, maybe you can work with someone
to be able to retain a license.
So if it does work, but to keep dragging it on and on and on
and not being able to do anything you need to, uh,
maybe just pull it out for now and hold onto the license.
And then after the court thing gets settled, then, then
maybe you can come back with a site
plan and we can go from there.
Okay. I mean, I, I would like to table this
to the next meeting just
because we were just handed this letter
and our attorney hasn't had a chance to digest it
and everything that goes along with it.
Do you being, it's been so long,
do you think you could have resolution by the next meeting?
Uh, well it would be December 2nd.
Um, what's, Sir, is that the next one?
16th? December 2nd is
December 2nd.
December 2nd. Can you have resolution by then? We'll,
Ch yeah, we'll absolutely work with, uh, uh, Mr.
W and his office to do so
Because like I said, we don't wanna just keep giving
extensions, you know, it's not going to have any progress.
Well, I mean, I think the extension in, in light
of the lawsuit, a again, we're literally prevented
by the court from doing anything.
Um, that's, that's what I'm saying.
If be prevented from doing anything, even if you meet
with your attorney and go over what Mr.
Wirth has suggested
and the lawsuit doesn't get settled
or gets moved forward, then we're still in the same boat.
Well, I mean, I, I would just like to see
what we can get done by, by the next meeting.
Mr. Wirth, what is your comment on that?
I know your voice isn't hanging in there tonight,
but we need your expertise on this one.
Alright, well, Mr.
Chair, you, you, you, you are exactly right about, uh,
two extensions and, uh,
a third turns this into a five-year project with no end
in sight at, at this point in time.
Uh, the thing I was also concerned with
that I didn't get a chance to put in this list
is the initial site plan for a structure that was to be used
for retail and a restaurant.
And, um, I don't recall
other than a name change to what
that building would be used for.
Uh, I wasn't so sure that, uh, the, the structure in itself,
uh, was a useful one, uh, to the cannabis, uh, facility.
And all this time, by the way, it's been called a cannabis
facility, never once a provisioning center.
And that's what we are most concerned about is the type
of facility that's never been listed.
And, uh, so I'm very concerned about that.
Needless to say, provisioning centers are the most important
ones that, uh, may
or may not get, uh, approved throughout this city.
So I think that, um, I mean if you, if you table this, then
I certainly want, uh, this to be discussed not only
with myself, uh,
but the city attorney on this particular issue
and with the, uh, building division who handles requests,
uh, for sites like, like this.
And, uh, if, if that's what happens, you postpone it,
then we'll go through that process.
It'll come back to you, uh, with a report that way
and we'll, we'll see whether or not, uh,
but that the question about the site plan itself, it,
I was very uncomfortable about the fact that it, it
went from a retail
and a, uh, a couple of retail spaces
and a restaurant to, to this
without any change to the site plan.
Very unusual. So I'm concerned about that.
That's, that's why I bring this up.
If I've got concerns, I want you to know about them.
Thank you, Mr. W You're welcome.
Um, we have city attorney.
Would you like to make a comment on this?
Any kind of comment on this?
Um, no. I'll reserve comment. I think what Mr.
Wirth said is, is if we are gonna table this,
there should be a meeting, um, with the, the representatives
of the city attorney's office, the building department,
the planning department, and anyone else he deems necessary.
Thank you. So
what you're suggesting is a table to December 2nd? Yes,
Please, Mr.
Chairman. Um,
although I recognize what the petitioner wants to do,
uh, I can appreciate the site plan for new,
it says new retail and restaurant building.
Well, there's no restaurant, there's no retail,
there's no nothing at this point of time.
Right. And there's nothing that tells us or him
or anybody else if this is gonna be settled
by December 7th, 2025.
So as opposed to postponing this, discussing this, going
through all this, again, I say we,
my feeling on it anyway is we call it a day.
We do not, we do not move forward on this site plan.
We return the petitioner's check
and once some of this has gone through the legal channels
and everything else, then we can talk about it.
Because going to 2025 is meaningless at this point in time.
This can go to, to 2030
and to keep track of all this and,
and to have it come back again and again.
Uh, it's come back enough times, uh,
between 20 23, 24.
I personally, if we postpone it
and move, let's say we move it to December, 2025,
it's gonna be on here for December of 2026.
There's no doubt in my mind, the, the wheels,
the legal wheels roll very, very slowly as far as this goes.
So, um, I'm against giving,
giving another extension for this.
I said my piece. Thank you Mr. Chair.
Thank you. Commissioner Zey.
Um, to the, to the chair.
Um, I think I was, I just wanted to con um,
clarify this too, if we're,
we're not probably extending it right now.
We're tabling it. I think that's the topic right now. Well,
We haven't said anything yet.
Yeah, that's, I think there's two route, there's
In The motion, there's two route that we're discussing,
you know, probably extending it or tabling it.
Both of them are up in option.
Um, because the petitioner did mention he didn't receive
that final letter till he walked in.
So I just, my feeling, I feel like it might be,
it might be more fair to give him
that one last chance by tabling it.
That's what I at least feel.
I don't know what the rest of the commission feels.
Um, but I also agree with you
because there is, it's a legal scenario behind, it's,
doesn't really make sense to extend it at this point,
but tabling it, I think, um, we should consider,
I Have a question.
Sure. Do you think it's enough, you know, time
to just two weeks, within two weeks,
can you do something or you need more time? One more.
Um, well, for, for two weeks, I just like
to get this letter in the hands of our attorney.
Um, mm-Hmm. To do this and review with Mr,
You need four, all of our options.
You think it'll, it'll help a week
or you need a four weeks that you can fill, like, you know,
you have enough time to do all of those thing.
Um, you're saying for a two week, uh, tabling
Yes. Yeah.
I mean that, yeah, our attorney will, would be able
to, um, reach out to Mr. W's office.
So two weeks is enough for you? Yeah.
So our thing is up on the seventh.
So the second really is the last time we were able to do it.
Correct. I was saying that instead of seven,
probably our next meeting after this meeting, next meeting.
So, yes. I'm just asking you a question.
Isn't the next meeting December 2nd?
Yes. So I'm, I'm sorry, what do you ask? So you
Okay with that December 2nd or you need more time?
Oh, I mean, I more time would be great,
but our, our current, it currently expires December 7th.
So December 2nd is kind of the last time to do it.
Go any further than it expires on the seventh, correct.
Oh, okay. Yep. Okay. Thank you.
Okay. We heard for part of the commission,
and I still say that I don't know if you can, you,
I understand you just got the letter
and you want to show it
to your attorney, see what can be done.
But the thing about it is, in that short period of time,
I don't think you're gonna be, have anything done
that's gonna be constructive.
In other words, you're not, he can see the letter,
he can say, oh yeah, we could do this.
We could do, but being it's been this long to come,
this little bit of of distance going further,
I don't think two more weeks is gonna make a difference.
So Mike's suggestion still is to
put the project on hold
until you get the legal stuff taken care of,
and then you can talk to your, uh, attorney in the meantime
and then go from there.
And you may have to bring it back a new site plan
because like we're saying is that it says a retail store
and restaurant, but now you're saying it's a cannabis
facility, but then you don't say what kind
of cannabis facility it is.
So there's too many unanswered questions there.
Our attorney may very well have us do the very thing
you're suggesting, but I, I would like an opportunity
to just confer that with him first
and, and get this letter in front of him for his review.
Um, Commissioner,
so I have a quick question.
So what is exactly do you think he's gonna change on here?
It is just the lock box and the, the titling.
So I'm kind of confused on that.
And I agree with what, um,
I forgot your name chair, Mr.
Mr. Chair is saying.
So what do you feel
that might change when you give this to the attorney?
I, I can't speculate,
but our attorney had been reaching out for this to try
to get this very letter before this meeting
and never received it.
So, uh, it was, came as a shock that I was getting it
for the first time walking in.
So, um, just respectfully, I would like the opportunity
to have the benefit of him looking at it.
From what I see, it looks like it was on November 18th.
Oh no, this is the 2024. Okay. Yep. My fault. Okay.
Okay. I think because you just got the letter
and your attorney hasn't had a chance
to look at it, I respect that.
Um, but If we postpone it
to the next meeting and there's nothing resolved
by the next meeting, then you need to pull the project
until the legal stuff gets taken care of
and then come back with a new site plan.
That way it gives you a chance to talk to your attorney.
I don't know if anything's gonna be accomplished or not,
but it will give you a chance to talk to him.
And if nothing gets accomplished in that time period,
and you come back and nothing's been accomplished,
then I suggest that you withdraw the project
until everything gets settled out
and then come back with the new site plan, with the,
what the, what the purpose of the property is gonna be used
for and,
and then come back with a new site plan
so we know exactly what's going on.
Noted. Thank You. But
I'll leave it up to the commission.
Uh, I'm not going, I'm not the only one making the decision.
I'll leave it up to commission and see if they agree with
that or we'll go from there.
Well, let's start with something, uh, I'll make a motion
that we deny the third extension, uh,
that we deny the third extension past December 7th
to December, 2025.
Um, I have a quick question to that.
Well, doesn't the tabling get the motion first
or if that gets brought up,
But I don't know if we're gonna table or just postpone it.
Yeah, postpone. So which motion would get addressed first?
Well, he was just saying he wanted to die of extension,
but we still can postpone it for him to, my,
My motion can fail.
Great. And if some, if somebody doesn't want
second his motion, they
Don't. Yes. Supported.
Okay.
Then you vote on it
and if it doesn't pass,
then you can make another motion. Correct.
Okay. So, Mr.
Zay, commissioner Zay has the motion on the table
to deny the third extension
Yes.
And, and have no postponement.
Correct. Okay.
And Commissioner Ansari, you supported Commissioner dse.
Okay. Yes. Okay.
So we have a motion on the floor, commissioner DSE to
deny the third extension.
Yes. And it was supported by Commissioner Ansar,
which means that we can't deny it and postpone,
Now they can have a discussion on the motion
that was seconded and then a vote,
Right? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Who says that? Basically? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Um,
So Discussion, my point after everything is said
and done is this was approved on 2020,
then it's the extension in 2023.
Another one in 2024. This is going to 2025.
If anybody up here sincerely believes that this is going
to be taken care of by 2025,
then I think you're fooling yourself.
I don't think it's going to happen, first of all,
and second of all, I, I don't like the site plan
for the site plan does not.
The, the, the description of the site plan does not fit with
what they're trying to do here.
Alright. So if you're going to do it, start new
and be done with this.
Okay. So let's get back to the commission then.
We have a motion by Commissioner Ouse
and supported by Commissioner Ansara to
deny the extension Correct.
And allow it to go forward if it goes
forward at a later date.
So we won't postpone it, we won't Right. Table it. Right.
We just deny the extension for now. Right.
And if something happens
and he wants to bring it back, then he can bring it back.
He's good until December 7th. Right?
Right. So that was the mis a motion by Commissioner Berg.
By Commissioner Ansara. Roll call
Voting Yes.
Means to deny.
I I like to clarify one thing for myself.
So let's say vote yes,
but I still wanna put another motion out there
to postponed it, then you No. Is that a possibility?
You, and you shouldn't Vote
for the motion you just made?
Yes. So vote no. Yes. Correct. Okay.
If you want the, this, the it to be postponed
to the next meeting, then we would vote no to this.
Correct. Commissioner dse? Yes.
Commissioner Ansar? Yes. Commissioner Hollow? Yes.
Commissioner Hawk? Yes. Commissioner Childry? Yes.
Commissioner Morey? No. Commissioner Buki? No.
Commissioner Smith?
I'm gonna say yes just
because things have taken too long already.
I agree. It's already five and I just don't feel that, uh,
the couple weeks is gonna make a difference.
So I'm sorry to tell you
the motion's been denied for the extension.
Alright. Thank you. Thank you sir.
Number nine, bond release. Seeing none. Number 10.
New business number 11, citizen participation.
Does anyone like to speak? Please come up.
State your name and address for the record.
You have three minutes to speak. Seeing none.
Uh, item number 12,
planning commission Business 12 a Planning directors report.
All right. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Uh, just, uh, planning commission's, uh, report.
This is since, um, October 21st.
Quite a length of time,
but, um, mostly this is meetings I've attended.
Um, there was the, uh, van D**e corridor, uh, meeting,
uh, another meeting on SLC who, uh, takes care
of a lot of Things down on Eight Mile Road.
That's not so great, frankly.
Uh, I attended a tree ordinance, uh, meeting
or meetings with, in the mayor's office with the mayor,
and we're trying to work that out.
Um, in our, we had a staff, our second staff review
of, uh, the planning commission budget.
We'll be going into our third and last one here pretty soon.
And, uh, we'll get that to the Planning Commission so
that they can, uh, first review it on one meeting date
and, uh, uh, make changes,
approve, deny, whatever.
On the second meeting date, both in December.
Um, so we've been working on our, uh,
active mobility plan that's basically a bicycle and,
and walking and, uh, rolling, so to speak, uh, plans.
And, uh, we had a meeting today.
We're actually talking to, uh, general Motors about, uh, uh,
what to do with, uh, bike paths, so to speak, uh,
around their, their perimeter and what they felt about that.
It was quite a interesting discussion, but,
but that, that's just something that we're, we're continuing
to do through time here.
And, um, so we'll,
we'll have some other meetings coming up, public ones that,
uh, we certainly will let you know about.
Um, let's see.
I had, uh, we had a, a meeting with, uh, with,
uh, Mike Tobin.
He owns, uh, Frazier Plaza on the corner of, uh,
frail Road and Gro Gross Spec.
And, uh, he's considering selling that to a
another, uh, group.
It's ba it's basically, um, well, it's a gas,
it's a gasoline station.
Uh, we don't have a name who's behind it yet,
but, uh, they're looking to, uh, re totally redevelop that,
that corner, uh, that, that's the thought process.
So we'll see what happens with that.
Um, had a meeting on Mound.
It's 20, uh, 2 0 7, 8 0 mound.
It's a, uh, repair shop, auto repair shop.
They've got a large parking area in the back that,
that actually backs up to Albany.
And, uh, we've been going round
and round with, uh, with the development
of that parking lot.
I, I think we're finally getting to the point where, uh,
we can agree after several years of this, uh,
drainage mostly is the problem.
We've got an alley that, uh, is a, is a concern.
Uh, next, uh, we call it a, call it our,
it's a tri triplex meeting.
There's a location, what's the name of that?
Is it of the Side Street Black Bar? Isn't that Black Bar?
And 11? Yes. Okay.
And, um, they wanna build three dwelling units on
the, uh, south and east corner.
The issue is it's, uh, zone commercial,
but that area, area hasn't developed
for any commercial in years.
And so these people wanna put in, uh, a combination,
three dwelling unit, uh, on that corner.
So we'll see how that's, that's gonna work out.
And, uh, they tried it with four, went
to the zoning board that failed.
Now they're coming back with free
and they gotta go back to the zoning board one more time
and, uh, see how that works for them.
We are in support of it, by the way,
and we were in support of the first one,
uh, on that.
So, um, Another
location for redevelopment for multifamily.
And, uh, this is at, um,
1 1 7 0 1 12 mile north side
of 12 across from the hospital.
It's, uh, the Peace Lutheran Church.
And, um, they're willing to sell part
of the property to a group who want to, uh, rezone
that part of the property
to a multi-family develop development.
So again, it's something that we would support.
We're trying to get more dwellings, more options to people,
uh, in town.
We just don't have those options.
We have to keep trying and,
and, uh, hopefully we can, uh,
once it's taken before City Council, we hope they can,
uh, they would approve it.
Um, I attended a Zoom meeting having
to do with the downtown center.
We've got that back on the table.
We're gonna keep it on the table.
And, uh, we're, we're in talks with, uh, city Council,
so we're hoping that will, uh, continue to move forward.
And, um, I had, uh, on the 12th of, uh,
November, I had attended a, a city council meeting with, uh,
some items that were, uh, on there.
So that's about it. Rounds it out.
There's more, but I'm not gonna bore you.
Thank you Mr. Wirth. Anybody have any questions for Mr.
Wirth?
When you going on vacation, max?
What did you don't want? What'd you say?
When are you going on vacation? Next,
Next week.
Good math Planning commission discussions and concerns.
Thanks Ms. Michelle.
In your packet, we
provided an active Mobility plan handout.
Um, so I just wanna make a brief announcement.
So the, the Warren Acts Mobility plan.
So we have a upcoming open house.
The consultants is going to put that out.
And so the city, so I'll just read one of their
summaries on what's coming up.
The City of Warnock is excited
to present the preliminary plans
for the active mobility plan, which aims
to improve accessibility
and connectivity for everyone who walks, bikes and rolls.
This plan focuses on enhancing daily transportation
and recreation through better non-motorized
and micro mobility options.
And so the open house details, it's gonna be on Wednesday,
December 11th from 6:00 PM to 8:00 PM
and it's gonna be at the Burnett Library.
That's 2 3 3 4 5 Van D**e Avenue.
And you can stop at any time between 6:00 PM
and 8:00 PM to review the plans, provide your input
and hear brief presentations.
And there there'll be two short presentations, one at six
and one at seven.
Um, so it's basically an informal opportunity
to ask questions, discuss ideas,
and help shape the future of transportation, recreation.
And Warren. And if you wanna see information about
what we've done so far, there's a website
and that's Walk Bike
Info slash Warren. Thank you.
Thanks, Ms. Michelle. You're welcome.
Um, one more question, uh, in our packet,
we got a couple things from, uh, governor Whitmer signs,
bills, protecting homeowners, advancing housing needs,
and supporting public health and more.
And then there was also a bill
from a letter from Andrea Brown, who's the MAP director,
responding to a bill that was voted on in the State House.
Uh, we dealt with housing, which deals
with our master plan, trying to get more housing.
Yep. You want to elaborate on that just a little bit?
Yeah. So that was a letter in support of the updates
to the Planning Enabling Act.
And so that's, we gave you a copy of the updates,
which talks about when a master plan is updated,
that you have to include housing
and look at, um, different things related to housing,
which wasn't something that was presently, um, re required.
And so that's, this is what from the, the press release.
Um, it just says Michigan.
So this Michigan communities, okay.
By requiring planning commissions to consider local,
local housing needs when developing
or revising a master plan land use.
So the bill also requires commissions
to reflect the local government, government's,
housing interests, ensuring residents concerns are
incorporated into the decision making processes.
Um, and then it goes on to say that, um,
affordable housing options are necessity to attract people,
improve the vitality of our business corridors,
and increase the livability of our community.
So that's all part of like the press release,
but that's all now, that's what's incorporated into
the Planning Enabling Act.
So that's something that when we, there's a, our overhaul
of a master plan or a update to have
to include in like different housing, like a housing,
almost like a housing study, really.
And look at the different types of housing
to increase housing options.
Thank you, Ms. Michelle. You're welcome.
Anybody have any questions for Ms. Michelle?
Seeing none, I am number 13. Calendar pending manners.
Seeing none. I number 14. Adjourn.
I need a motion to adjourn.
So moved. Mr. Chairman Support Beki?
Yes. A motion by Commissioner Dza, supported
by Commissioner Beki to adjourn.
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
Have a good, uh, Thanksgiving. Everyone.