Good evening.
Welcome to the City of War and Planning Commission meeting.
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Roll call Commissioner. Answer
Yes. Present.
Commissioner Ze Present.
Commissioner Ari Present. Commissioner Hawk? Yes. Present.
Commissioner Chare Present. Commissioner Morris Present.
Commissioner Bernanki Present.
Commissioner Smith. Present,
uh, need a motion to approve of the agenda?
Motion to approve the agenda. Commissioner Chare,
Support Commissioner Hallie.
There's a motion by Commissioner C Childre,
supportive Commissioner Hollow.
All in favor? Aye. Any opposed?
Number five, approval of the minutes of November 18th, 2024.
Make a motion to approve Duy second Beki.
That was a motion by Commissioner dse,
supported by Commissioner Beki.
All in favor? Aye. Any opposed public hearing items?
Item number six, a
Item number six, A site plan for open storage
of petroleum equipment, containers,
and materials located between Ryan Road and Sunset Avenue.
Approximately 731.9 feet south of Tofa Road.
2 1 3 5 0.
Ryan Road, section 32 Pzi Alga, him
IBB Petroleum Service, uh,
PSP 2 4 0 0 2 7. Thank you.
Thank you. Madam. Is the petitioner here this evening?
Yes. Can you come to the podium please?
Good evening, sir. Do you wanna
tell us a little bit about your project?
Um, turn your mic on
or
can you hear me now? No. You
Better? No. Did you
Mute it?
Try it now. Can you hear me? Yeah. It's better. Yes.
Okay. Alright. Good evening everybody hit the button.
Um, we, uh, we are a, uh, a petroleum contractor
that we service gas stations through a, you know,
throughout the area, all the counties.
And we just would like to store some, um, I mean, we,
we don't store any petroleum products.
No, uh, liquid, no fuel, nothing at all.
Just equipment, you know, manholes, some, um, gas pumps,
used gas pumps or brand new gas pumps,
but they're empty from liquid, um, in some, uh,
company trucks, service trucks that we,
we use, you know, on a daily basis.
And, uh, that's, that's all he do.
Alright. Correspondence,
Correspondence, taxes, current engineering.
Preliminary review
of this site yelled at the following comments from
the engineering division.
Number one, the legal description
provided does not match City of Warren
and Macomb County record.
Provide a complete
and accurate legal description of the parcel.
Number two site plan shall show the location
of all existing slash proposed underground utilities,
including their size, material, type,
and discharge point in the vicinity of the project.
Number three, all parking
and open storage shall be on hard surfaces, concrete
or HMA, except with, except with variance.
Number four, open storage shall require a variance.
Number five, the outside parameter
of all paved slash parking spaces shall be minimum six,
uh, six inch concrete curb
and gutter storm stormwater discharge onto
adjacent properties is not permitted.
Comcast, in response to your utility request for the
above project, please refer to the test map for the location
of Comcast CAT CTV slash fiber facilities.
Aerial cables are highlighted in orange for fiber
and yellow for Coke's.
Cable underground is highlighted in blue for fiber
and green for Coke's cable.
If we can be of further assistance, please feel free
to contact us by email at
CCC utility request@teamsigma.com. Thank you.
Thanks ma'am. Secretary Plain Department's recommendation.
Okay.
It is recommended that the site plan for open storage
of petroleum equipment, containers,
and materials be approved with the standard conditions
of the planning commission and more specifically,
number one, five copies
of revised site plans must be submitted
indicating the following.
One A, the Ryan Road right
of way is indicated incorrect on the
survey and the site plan.
Review the city's legal description
and the current right of way dimensions one B Correct the
zoning on the site plan.
The zoning of the parcel is as follows, M1 Light Industrial
District, the West 264 feet
and R one C one Family residential District.
That's the balance of the property.
One c add the two open storage areas
and the total square footage of both to the site data chart.
1D Although the residential dwelling
to the south is zoned M1 planning staff would recommend
screening along the south property line where it abuts res.
The residential use planning staff recommends a six feet
high privacy fence or slats in the chain link fence
with the maintained tree lines such as AEs
one E provide dimensions from the open storage areas
to the property lines and dimensions
of the adjacent maneuvering lanes.
One f the maneuvering, um, area adjacent
to open storage area one is approximately 15 feet in width.
Indicate this area is one way
or a variance from the zoning board
of appeals may be required
for a maneuvering lane less than 22 feet in width.
One g The first item listed in the outdoor storage legend is
materials provide additional information explaining the type
of materials to be stored.
One HA note shall be
provided stating all lighting on the site shall be shielded
and not encroached upon abiding properties.
The light pole shall be no higher than 20 feet.
All glare shall be eliminated from all light fixtures.
Upward directed lighting shall not be permitted.
One, I indicate all existing
and proposed lighting on the site plan.
One j add one crab apple tree
and two shrubs such as service berry
and in the front lawn area
indicate the new landscaping on the site.
Plan one KA note must be
provided stating all landscape areas shall
be automatically irrigated.
One L indicate the proposed eight foot wide green belt along
the east edge of the developed part
of the property on the site plan per section 2.26
of the zoning ordinance.
An m an eight foot wide green belt
or six foot high concrete wall would be required
where the proposed open storage about the R one C zoning
districts to the north and south
indicate either the green belt or wall on the site.
Plan. Number two, two copies
of revised survey plans must be submitted indicating the
following, correct the Ryan Road right of way dimensions.
And number three, the length of the parcel.
560.85 feet includes the 33 foot
into the Ryan Road Right of way the length of the parcel,
excluding the 3 33 feet, is 5 27 0.85 feet.
Petitioners shall dedicate the West 60 feet of the parcel,
the Ryan Road right of way to the city.
An application can be obtained
in the public service department.
Number four, the following variances may need
to be obtained from the zoning board of appeals prior
to the release of the site plan to the building division.
And that's a, to locate open storage in the R one C
zone portion of the property.
That's a use variance.
And four B to allow over the maximum amount
of storage permitted on the site.
The plan indicates 3,400 square feet
and 2,805 square feet would be permitted.
Number five, the driveway approach
for 2 1 3 5 0 Ryan is shared with the property
to the North 2 1 3 8 0 Ryan Road.
A notarized and recorded shared driveway agreement
between the property owners must be submitted.
The document must be approved in draft format for form
by the city attorney prior
to it being recorded at the Macomb County Register of Deeds.
And number six, a performance bond
and the amount of $600 be posted according
to the estimated cost of $20,000 by the petitioner.
Um, planning staff believes the proposed bond amount is too
low, given the fact that additional landscaping
and screening are part of the improvements.
A new estimate shall be
provided close to 35,000 resulting in the bond of the amount
of $1,050.
And this ends the recommendation.
Thanks Ms. Michelle.
Before we go into the public hearing part of this,
I would like to recognize our ex-official Councilman Newan
and also Councilwoman McGee.
This is a public hearing. Anybody
would like to speak on this item.
Please come forward. State
your name and address for the record.
You'll have three minutes to make your comments.
Uh, good evening. Uh, members of the, uh, city
of Warren Planning Commission.
And, uh, Mary, uh, my name is Joe Hunt
and I live, uh, in section nine of the city, district five.
I listened to, uh, the recommendations by the planning staff
and the, uh, information provided.
And I'm all for this, uh, recommendation.
Um, I didn't really look up the backup material,
but I did look up a IBB petroleum services.
They have a website and it told me everything I need to know
that, uh, strong comfort level and approval. Thank you.
Thank you sir. Anyone else like to speak on this item?
Yeah, I just wanted to, can you hear me?
Yes, ma'am. Um, We've lived
over your, can we get your name please?
Oh, I'm sorry. Kathleen Marie Oliver.
We live close to the site. We own two homes.
My husband grew up there. We, um, been there.
The family's been there since the 1930s.
I'm opposed to this petroleum, um,
containers or they didn't state what kind
of materials I have.
Elders and asthma. My, my son does also.
So I'm against having it there and what they wanna do.
I guess that's all I wanna say. Thank
You ma'am.
Anyone else like to speak, like, to speak on this item?
Come forward.
Seeing none will turn over to the commission.
I make a motion to, to approve with discussion.
Commissioner Awadi,
uh, I'll support it. Doe
As the motion by Commissioner Hollow,
supported by Commissioner Ddue.
Discussion. Go ahead.
Okay. Can I have the, can the
petitioner step forward please?
Yes, sir. Thank you. Okay.
First of all, a couple questions.
What, uh, type of containers are these going to be?
You said they're not gonna be
Just empty, empty plastic containers.
They, I mean, um, we use 'em just, uh, if we take 'em to a,
a site to fill 'em with underground water,
we don't fill 'em with fuel or nothing.
Even we bring them back to our store
or to a place they're completely empty.
We don't store any liquid whatsoever.
No liquid, nothing that could go into the, you
Know, it's, it's no fuel into the air or nothing.
Yeah, yeah. No fuel, no fumes or nothing.
We use 'em just in an emergency issue.
Let's say, um, a gas station.
I, I, you know, a tank is, you know,
getting water to the tank.
We go to the site in emergency situation, we have
to bring our containers to fill water, underground water
so we can do the, you know, perform the work in the station.
And then after that, we call a company,
a third party company to come and suck this water
because it contain, it calls as a contaminated water
that we cannot dispose to any drain.
Right. So that,
that's the only reason we have been empty containers.
I did see some, from some of the pictures
that there is some, uh,
miscellaneous debris along the side of the building.
Is there any way you maybe could maybe clean that up?
Clean up, yes. Make it a little bit more presentable
to the, to the neighborhood?
Yes, we will. That's no problem.
Okay. Commissioner, I yield.
Thank you, sir. Anyone else may have a discussion?
I have a question, commissioner. Oh,
Go ahead. So
are they reusable or are they new containers?
The containers are reusable. Reusable,
Yes.
Okay, thank you. Yeah.
Mr. Chairman, uh, do you, your,
I think you mentioned old pumps and, and
and stuff from, do you have firefighting, equip, fire, uh,
equipment there also
Fire equipment?
Yes. That, that, that are required in the, uh,
Like, um, um, a fire suppression system?
Yes. No. No, we don't, we don't,
you deal with fire suppression systems.
You just deal with the gasoline and that's it.
Just with gasoline, yes, we deal with canopy,
but, um, canopies that, you know,
we don't do suppression, so that's completely different.
Company does it. Okay.
If, if any city required suppression systems,
Uh, I also agree with the commissioner about, uh, you need
to really clean this whole thing up. We
Will. Yes, no
Problem. And, and, um,
uh, nobody mentioned increasing the bond,
but, uh, hopefully, uh, I would support getting the bond up
to $1,050, um, as,
as required by the, or as suggested by the staff.
You have a sec. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Do you have a, do you second that Mr. Dodi?
Yes. I seconded raising the bond.
Okay. Uh, any other discussion?
Um, I do have a quick question. Yeah.
Um, so this company, um, this is your company, right?
So how many employee,
do you have any employees on the site that are gonna be there
At the site? Only
the max. We have two people at the site.
Mostly service technicians that go out, you know, and,
and sometime in the morning we just meet at the office
for half hour, and then everybody leaves go do their work.
And we have trucks that employees, they come home
and we have trucks that they stay at the shop overnight.
And then in the morning they could do the work.
We have probably like maybe three
or four trucks that stays in the shop during the night.
But the next morning, you know, they,
they go in the job site.
Okay. That's, thank You. So
Any other commissioners to the pedestrian?
Good evening, sir. Mm-Hmm. I stopped by the site today
and I looked at I see you storing like the
pumps for the gasoline.
Yeah, the pumps. You
Store those and,
and, uh, you store some other containers, which I saw.
Um, I agree with the other commissioners.
If you're gonna have open storage, anything you put
outside has to be in those areas.
Okay. Okay. You can't have it along the building.
Um, did you get a chance to go over all the recommendations?
Yes. Yes. I, I went through the recommendations.
You agree with them? Yes. I, I agree.
Do you have any issues with the raising of the bond?
No, that's no problem. Okay.
I mean, I mean, just we, we did this bond
because most of the work we do it ourself.
We are contractors. We're not gonna hire like, um, any
outside to do any work that we're gonna do in, you know,
in, in the place. But yeah's fine.
Thank you, sir. Okay.
That was, uh, motion by Commissioner Hollow Wadi supported
by Commissioner dse. Roll call.
Commissioner Hollow Wadi. Yes.
Commissioner dse? Yes. Commissioner Za? Yes.
Commissioner Hawk? Yes. Commissioner Chare? Yes.
Commissioner Moria. Commissioner Bernanke? Yes.
To support Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To approve motion passes. Thank you, sir. Thank you.
Have a good evening. Good luck with your project
Item number six B.
Item number six B site plan for gas station
and convenience store with drive through,
located on the east side of gross back,
approximately 1,109 feet from Razza Road.
2 6 2 6 0 gross back highway section 24
Zco Investment Corp.
Christopher Zer, A PSP 2 4 0 0 2 9.
Petitioner request is that this item be postponed
to December 16th, 2024. Thank you.
Need a most motion to postpone December 16th, 2024.
I'll make a motion to postpone until
the 12 16 20 24 Tuesday.
Thank you.
Support Commissioner Chare
As a motion by Commissioner Dee.
Supported by Commissioner C Childry. Roll call.
Commissioner Dee. Yes. Commissioner Chaudry? Yes.
Commissioner an yes. Commissioner Hall? Yes.
Commissioner Hawk? Yes. Commissioner Beki? Yes.
Commissioner Marie Es. Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To Postpone to December 6, 16, 20 24.
Item number seven, correspondence. Seeing none.
Item number eight, old business seeing none.
Item number nine, bond release. Nine. A
Nine. A minor
amendment to site plan for canopy.
Addition to existing drive through
for the bank located on the south side of 12 Mile Road.
Approx approximately 200 feet east of Quida Road. Two, 2000.
Um, 2012 Mile Road.
Section 18, public Service Credit Union
slash donna bu um,
PMA 2 3 0 0 0 2.
The minor amendment would be for a building addition
for a new conference room.
This was approved on February 6th, 2023.
Cash bond posted in the amount of $5,200 project complete.
Release the bond.
Need a motion to release the bond?
I, I make a motion to release the bond. Commissioner Hollow
Support. I support it.
Support. There is a motion by Commissioner Hollow,
supported by Commissioner Beki. Roll call
Commissioner Hollow.
Yes. Commissioner Beki. Yes. Commissioner er. Yes.
Commissioner Dee? Yes. Commissioner Hawk. Yes.
Commissioner Chadri? Yes. Commissioner Murray Es.
Commissioner Smith. Yes.
Release the bond of $5,200. Item number nine B,
Item number nine B site plan
for new public storage building.
Located, located 354 feet south of 10 Mile Road,
approximately 6 0 4 feet west of Warner Avenue.
Section 32 3 9 6 10 mile road.
Jarad Yates PSP 2 0 0 0 21.
Approved on August 24th, 2020.
Surety bond posted in the amount
of $60,000 project complete. Release the bond.
Need a motion to release the bond?
Motion to release the bond.
I bring motion to release the bond.
There's a motion by Commissioner Chore,
supported by Commissioner Hoke. Roll call.
Commissioner Chore. Yes. Commissioner Ha.
Yes. Commissioner? Yes. Commissioner Deen? Yes.
Commissioner Hollow? Yes. Commissioner Beki? Yes.
Commissioner Illa. Commissioner Smith.
He has to release the bond
of $60,000 Bond has been released.
Item number 10, new business discussion
and review of the 20 25, 20 26 planning department budget.
This? Yes, Michelle.
Good evening. So everyone received a copy
of the draft budget in this packet.
Um, for those of you who have been on the,
were on the commission last year, it's going
to look similar.
Um, it has table of contents that it explains each
of the different sections in the budget.
So what you have is the draft planning commission
and Department of Planning proposed fiscal budget.
And that goes from July 1st, 2025 to June 30th, 2026.
So, um, I can touch on just really the,
the key things, the key changes
and that, um, when you look at the different, um,
projects that we have budgeted in the past
and ones that we have proposed, um, we
provided a listing of all the different, um,
budget line items from those different projects
and how we are looking to, um, foregoes some
of the past ones that were approved
and instead do the climate action plan
that we've been discussing, um, from time to time here at,
at this, um, meeting.
So when it comes down to items that are new
that we've never asked, we didn't ask for last year.
Um, one is an office equipment, a new envelope stuffer,
which also will, you know, stuff the notices, fold it,
stuff it, and,
and that's a, a new item that's listed on page eight
where we talk about the different, um,
equipment and even contractual services,
those types of items.
Um, so that's something we're looking to replace.
'cause the current one is not functioning well.
Um, on that page as well, there's the new line item
for request for potentially a vehicle.
Um, so that's listed in here, um, for the department to use.
And actually at the top of the page is
where it discusses contractual services,
where it goes over in more detail, the,
the different projects.
Um, the ones that we were approved in the past, like the,
the housing study and the neighborhood plan
and the multimodal plan, those were plans
that were approved in previous budgets
that at the time we, we wanted to do.
But with the, um, current desire
to by administration
and council looking at the climate action plan, a lot of
that, those funds would be relocate, reallocated
and used for a poten, like for a climate action plan.
So that's what we would be looking to do.
Um, the funds were already, um, in our past budgets.
And one other key thing from contractual services is, um,
esri, it's um, it's Arc GIS software.
So we have a citywide enterprise program
that the engineering department, there is a, um,
GIS coordinator who really runs that overall program
for the different departments.
But what they would like is departments that are using that
to add to their own upcoming budget the credits to
maintain training and to, um, have access to,
you know, services directly with that.
Um, with these as research, um, staff basically.
So that is a key thing that we added here, um, on
that same page under the contractual services.
And so, um, that's listed as
as $17,100 for the adva, it's the Esri Advantage program.
So as more staff like plans to learn this
and um, continue to do training
and have access when we, you know, need help with
that, that software.
Um, and the following page nine, it really has a,
like a good chart with all those different project,
the plans and projects I was talking about.
And the current two that are on here
that we're working on are the green space conservation plan
and the active mobility plan.
So that's shown here. Um, it shows what was budgeted
and what, you know, some additional funds we pulled from the
housing study that we didn't do.
Um, I mean in terms of staffing, it's,
we have seven employees now
and we plan to have seven in the next fiscal year as well.
Um, the chart does show though the potential,
like there are some promotions that are shown on here
for the, um, administrative secretary
and office assistant.
So, and also the assistant planning planning director
position is still technically to be filled.
So, so these are positions that are, um,
look on the, the proposed chart.
So, but it's, we're looking for still seven,
seven staff to remain.
And really I think that's, uh,
mostly everything.
I mean, I guess if any, there's any questions,
those are the key things.
A lot of other things are staying this I think the same.
Um, but if you have any questions
or any further explanation, I can answer any questions.
Does anybody have any questions for Ms. Michelle
seeing that I'd like to make a motion to receive for review,
which we will we'll go over.
I don't have a question for um, comm Michelle,
but I do have a quick, um,
discussion I'd like to do with the team.
Is that something we would do after the motion or Go ahead.
Okay. So I know this is my opinion
and I definitely wanna throw it out there with everyone, uh,
especially with the conference that just took place.
Um, I think it's,
and Michelle please do correct me if I'm wrong in here.
I think it's $70 per night that we get refunded for hotels.
Um, so if there's,
I know the budget is getting approved again
and we're gonna have the conference coming up again,
is there any way to request at least you can never get a
hotel in $70 all these times.
We always have it either in Mackinac
or all these great cities,
which does not offer at that low price.
So can we increase that with everyone's discussion
and what everyone thinks?
I would like to propose to see if there's a way to increase
that amount to at least accommodate for the hotel,
because that does, at the end of the day,
I'm taking off work talking about me, no one else.
I'm taking off work and I'm paying extra to do go
to a conference that is going to end up supporting the city.
My knowledge I'm bringing back to the city
and I have to pay out of my pocket to a lot.
Yeah. So definitely like to throw
that out there for everyone to think.
So the, the, I know the, like the tuition
and the fee for the conference, they, that's covered.
They've been covering that in full.
But the amount that they'll pay per,
per diem is based on the GSA, the government rates
that are established.
And so depending on the zip code where we're traveling to,
they'll pay a maximum of whatever it's listed.
So and a per, uh, and a maximum per diem for food
and other incidentals.
So I would have to, I would have to ask, I would have
to ask the controllers if we put,
I don't know if we can cover like so beyond.
So that is what is comes out about out of pocket every time.
Yeah. Every time we do go to these conferences,
whatever is in excess of that per diem amount,
that's they'll pay for you do pay out of pocket.
So I don't know if we can put, I mean, I would have to ask,
I don't know if Mary is aware of that.
If we added something for reimbursement, I'm not sure if
that's, I'm not sure if we're permitted to do that.
I don't know. Um,
I'm so sorry. I think
I wasn't even, um, per diem definitely,
but I I was more focused on like the hotel
that they cover per night.
Yeah. Um, I think that's different than the per diem,
right? Because well it's,
It's coming from the same place.
It's still from the GSA.
So for example, we went to just the last location,
it was 117 a night is what the max for
that area code of Grand Rapids.
So I, I don't know about having the
reimbursement beyond that.
If I may, Mr. Chair, go ahead.
This is a recommendation to the mayor
and obviously the controller would be have the,
have input with the mayor.
So if the commission wants to make a recommendation Sure.
Pre by all means present it.
Okay. Yeah. Okay.
So, so would everybody like that recommendation
to go to the mayor?
I mean, we don't have to have an answer right now.
We, we we're just discussing it right now.
We're still gonna take this home.
We're gonna review it and then we'll make our decision at
the next meeting when we vote on
It. Meeting Mr. Chairman.
Um, something that, uh,
this changes with every area.
If I may, this changes with every area.
We, uh, grand Rapids is gonna be different than, uh,
Mackinac, Mackinac Island,
which is different than Traverse City.
Mm-Hmm. Which would be different than Flint, so,
or Frankenmuth.
Um, so it, it's all dependent on what it is
and where it is.
Um, uh, the numbers that they came up come up with.
Uh, it's the same people doing the numbers for the, uh,
mileage as far as gas and use of car and so on.
So depending on what,
what it is and where it is, is dependent on
what the costs are going to be.
So making a motion to to, to kind
of increase future expenditures
is dubious at best.
'cause we don't know. We know it's gonna go up,
but to cover it
and how much more it's gonna go up, we don't know.
So it, it, it's a nice idea,
but I don't think it's practical, um, going forward.
But let's see how it goes.
Making a, making a request of the controller's office
or the mayor's office, we can do that,
but I think they have to tie it down to the,
to the federal rates that apply for each,
in each different area. Thank you Mr. Chair.
Thank you, sir. And I kind of agree with you there.
This is a standardized rate
that they use for the different areas.
So it's not just us that's paying the extra, everybody
that's going to the conferences paying the same, same thing.
So some of us, it's gonna be a little bit harder to deal
with and others, you know, not.
So,
And I actually agree with you.
Yeah. I wish they'd cover the whole thing,
but that's not going to happen.
Yeah. Um, uh, the, we do the best we can with
what we have and some of the information, uh,
that you get at some of these, uh, meetings, uh,
far outweighs the cost.
And I'll leave it at that. Thank you Mr. Chair. Thank
You, sir. Any other discussion?
I need to, I need to make a motion
to re receive for review.
At which time? The next, the
Next, Mr. Chairman, do you
want a motion to receive and file or,
Well, I, I thought about receiving file,
but if you receive and file, you put it away.
You know, this is, this is a review.
We're gonna review it,
then we're gonna bring it up at the next meeting.
I'll make a motion that we review the planning, the, uh,
department fiscal budget, uh, for the next meeting.
'cause I don't know if you can make a motion.
I did. Okay.
Is it, I need, I need to make,
make a motion, which you did.
I'm making the motion then. So now
I need a second.
I second. Commissioner
Awadi. That
was a motion by Commissioner dse, supported
by Commissioner Hollow Wadi to receive
and review this document for the budget budget
to be voted on at our next meeting.
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay.
Uh, item number 11, uh, citizen participation.
If anybody audience would like to come up
and speak, state your name and address for the record
and you'll have three minutes to make your comments.
Uh, good evening once again.
Members of the, uh, city of Warren Planning Commission,
Joe Hunt from 83 0 6 Stanley at 12 in Van D**e.
Um, I moved into the city about 22 years ago
because of the prospect
of the thriving downtown that never existed.
And now that I'm in my third administration of coming to,
uh, different public meetings, uh,
I guess I could ask the question on whether
or not that the planning commission in conjunction
with the planning department has any intention of working
with the DDA to sell that property in front of the, uh,
civic center area so that, uh, it can become a thriving,
uh, downtown area.
Um, I live near the Walmart, which was vacant, uh,
for a long time, and then it became thriving,
which I'm happy about.
Um, but like I say, I'm in my 22nd year, uh, as a resident
of the city of Warren waiting for that thriving downtown.
And I don't see anything thriving about it.
Um, I'll conclude by looking at the, uh,
BSNA online database, which is really a good, uh,
insight into like the various, uh, areas of the city.
And I noticed that the City
of Warren Planning owns 45 properties in the city,
most in the South end, or I should say south of 6 96.
And I guess my question would be as to why it is
that the City of Warren planning, um, owns these properties
and what can be done to sell them to, um,
any prospective buyers, perhaps, uh, even for a dollar, just
to offload them from the books.
But like I say,
I'm celebrating my 22nd year here in the city of Warren
as a taxpayer waiting for that thriving, uh, downtown area.
That doesn't seem like it's going to happen.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, sir. We want thank you for
supporting us for 22 years.
Good seeing you again.
Is there anyone else that would like to speak?
Seeing none, we'll close out the citizen.
Participation item number 12, planning
and commission Business 12 A planning directors report.
Okay. Working. All right. This will be brief.
Um, so since the last meeting I attended a
meeting on November 20th.
It was a subcommittee meeting for the, for murals, um,
in the tif, a district,
and I don't if anyone hasn't seen it, the first mural part
of that program, it's located, um, on the North wall
of the battery warehouse and that's 2 3 8 3 8 Van D**e.
That's the corner of Van D**e and Stevens.
So they're looking to do another one.
So we'll see how that goes.
Um, you know, the next know maybe in the, the spring,
but it we're starting the talks of the next, next location.
Um, today we had a meeting with members
of the Environmental Review Committee
and the administration to discuss the potential list
of items to include in an RFP
for the Climate Action plan that I discussed.
Um, that's still in the early stages,
but as I indicated in our, our budget, um,
there were projects that were previously approved
that would be eliminated and the funds allocated to that,
um, climate Action Plan.
Um, and also I wanna once again remind everyone
that on December 11th there will be an open house at the
Bourbon Library to review the preliminary plan for the war,
the active Mobility plan.
Um, so that's gonna take place once again Wednesday,
December 11th from 6:00 PM to 8:00 PM
and that's located at 2 3 3 4 5 Van D**e.
And you can stop at any time between six
and 8:00 PM to provide your input on the preliminary plan.
And there'll be brief presentations on the hour at 6:00 PM
and then at 7:00 PM And there's more information
that you can get on the
website that we have for this project.
And that's Walk Bike Info slash warn.
Um, and also just, this is not one of our projects,
but there is a, um,
town center community planning session for the downtown.
So that's December 18th
and there's um, some flyers around City hall
and I think it went into the water bill.
And so there's gonna be two sessions that day.
And this is actually
through the economic development department.
And so there'll be one on the first floor conference room
and that's gonna be at 10:00 AM
to 12:00 PM at, at City Hall.
And that it's one City Square.
And then later that evening from six
to 8:00 PM at the Burnett Library, um,
at 2 3 3 4, 5 Van D**e.
And so the same day, December 18th,
they're gonna have meetings.
So for the people interested in
about the discussions about the, um, the flyer says Join us
for a town center community planning discussion.
So that's through economic development. Alright.
And that ends my report.
Cool. Thanks Ms.
Michelle, do you have any questions
for Michelle Commissioner?
Yes, Michelle, does that what you're saying about the, uh,
that meeting on the 18th mm-Hmm.
Is that part of the meeting that,
that Mr. Hunt was maybe, might
Be? I'm not sure. I just,
you mentioned the downtown,
so I recall there was the flyer that they had sent out.
So I know that that's, that's coming up.
Okay. So maybe that he,
that the two could be tied together.
'cause he was saying about yes,
That's regarding the town Center.
He had mentioned, you know, about the downtown
that's been debated what to do with
by City Hall for the past few years.
Yeah. So there, yeah, that's, they're starting the,
the discussion again, trying to get public
Input, see what they wanna do in front of Yes.
And maybe that's what Mr. Hunt was talking
About. Yeah. So that's
through economic development.
So they're starting those. Yep.
Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you.
Any other questions for Michelle? No. Thank you, Michelle.
Okay, item have number 12 B, planning, commission,
discussion and concerns.
Nobody's got any discussions, concerns? Okay.
Item have number 13, calendar pending matters.
Seeing none, item am number 14.
I need a motion to adjourn, Mr.
Chairman. I'll make a motion to adjourn Tuesday.
Second. Commissioner Awadi There a
motion by Commissioner Doe.
Support of Mr. Hollow. Wadi. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed?
Have a good evening everyone. Thank you.