Good evening.
Welcome to the City of Warren Planning Commission, meeting
of February 24th.
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and to the republic, which it stands, one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice.
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Roll, roll call. Commissioner
Ansar. Yes.
Commissioner Dee Doe Present. Commissioner Hollow
Present. Commissioner
Hawke. Commissioner Choudry.
Commissioner Morice Present. Commissioner Bki present.
Commissioner Smith. Present.
Uh, we need a motion to excuse Commissioner Hawke
and Commissioner Chowdry that couldn't make it this evening.
So move Mr. Chairman, support.
There was a motion by Commissioner dse, supported
by Commissioner Ansar.
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
Approve of the agenda. Need a motion?
I'm Commissioner Chair.
I make a motion to approve the agenda.
Support. Support Beki.
That was a motion by Commissioner Hollow, supported
by Commissioner Beki.
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
Approve of the minutes of February 10th, 2025.
Need a motion?
I make a motion to approve the minutes.
Commissioner Hollow wadi support.
There's a motion by Commissioner Hollow Wadi
supported by Commissioner Ansar.
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
Number six, public hearing items.
Um, number six A is petitioner here?
I'll go ahead and read that. Yeah, yeah,
Go Ahead. Okay. Six.
A request
for standard re rezoning located on the south side
of 12 Mile Road,
approximately 120 feet west of Van D**e Avenue.
From the present zoning classification
of C one local business district.
R one C one family residential district and R one P one.
Family residential and parking district to rc
multiple family dwelling district.
7 6 0 2 12 mile road.
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section section 16 Peter Snyder, PR
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This was tabled from June 21st, 2021 by petition.
September 27th, 2021 by planning staff
and November 22nd, 2021 by planning staff. Thank you.
Thank you. Um, good evening sir.
Good evening. You want to tell us a
bit, a little bit about your project?
Sure. Asad Soba on behalf
of forward development as the applicant.
I've owned this piece of parcel. The land for
Is your mic on sir?
Yes. Better? Better? It's better.
Thank you. I've owned this property
for almost 10 years, maybe a little bit longer.
I've had different ideas.
Nothing was able to work just because of the depth of it
and the consumer's building being in the middle of it.
I own the parcel west
of the consumer's building off a 12 mile and east of that
and the parcel on Stanley and the best that we could do.
We figured there's always a need for residential
and there's not enough to be able to put, you know,
single homes on there.
And the architect, the engineer and myself and Mr.
Wirth have worked on this.
And we came up with three different buildings to come up
with 18, uh, units.
Uh, a building of eight, a six and a four.
Uh, that's what we're looking to do to convert it
to multifamily and to be able to put some residential.
There's always a need
for more residential in the area and in the city.
Thank you sir. Correspondence,
Correspondence, taxes, current engineering.
This was updated on 2 21 20 25.
Number one, show
how the property boundaries were established.
Show and identify the location of property irons found,
or and or set.
Number two, the plan shall show
and identify all existing City
of Warren underground utilities sizes
and connection in the vicinity of the project.
Fire updated on January 30th, 2025.
The WFD approves this site plan as long
as all access rows remain 22 feet wide
as shown on the site plan.
If you have any questions,
please contact me at
5 8 6 7 5 6 2 8 0 0
with extension code 3 3 0 0.
I also have a letter that we received, uh,
from two Warren Planning Commissioner.
This was sent from property address 7 6 0 2 12 mile Road
LA regarding this, um, six a I am against
the rezoning of
above project from C one local business district
to R one C one family residential district
to R one C multifamily dwelling district
7 6 0 2 12 mile road and above lots.
I feel this would add more traffic in
and out on Stanley Street.
We have have a lot of traffic from the businesses.
Happy Pizza City Burger and,
and High Sushi, as well
as the gas station people making left plus right turns onto
Stanley going to Pauline Street
to make left turn into 12 Mile Road.
Also, I am sure some tenants may have more
than one car.
So where do they park?
This would, this would make more
congestion parking on the street.
I live directly across the street on Stanley Street
and there is some drawings regarding, uh,
what the map looks like.
And, uh, the person's name is Irene Bald Elson. Thank you.
Thanks Madam Secretary Plan Director's
report recommendation.
Don't you take that. Thank you.
Uh, thank you Mr. Chairman. Excuse me.
Uh, the recommendation is, uh, as follows. It is. Alright.
The following recommendation is made to City Council
regarding the rezoning request
for property in question as described.
Uh, it is recommended that the, uh, rezoning request from
C one local business district
R one C one Family Residential District
and R dash one dash P one Family residential
and parking District two R three,
multiple family dwelling district be approved.
The location, uh, is an adequate location
for a multiple family housing development.
Uh, the proposed rezoning satisfies the following concepts.
A rezoning the property would allow a higher residential
density infill development, uh, in an area that has,
uh, seen a reduction in housing units.
B resident, uh, excuse me,
rezoning the property would eliminate, uh, the prospect
of the property being proposed for rezoning for higher uses,
which could be office, commercial or industrial.
The properties, uh, along 12 Mile Road.
Our currently, uh, zoned C one local business district,
the rezoning to our three
multiple family district would provide a residential
transition zone from the single family dwellings
to the South and the commercial to the North 12 Mile Road
and the East Van D**e Avenue
C Uh, the use provides additional missing middle residential
uses as described in the 2021
Warren Master plan.
The future land use, uh, map, uh,
in the 2021 master plan indicates the property
as a transitional residential, uh, area.
However, due to the number of parcels
involved in the project, the future land use category
that better fits this area would be redevelopment.
The master plan describes a redevelopment site
that's page one 14 as follows, several large
or consolidated parcels through the city are in transition
and this category provides the maximum
flexibility in their redevelopment.
D. Additionally, uh, if the rezoning is approved,
the planning staff would request, uh, to meet
with the applicant, uh, prior
to submitting the site plan application.
After reviewing the concept plan, the planning staff, uh,
would like to discuss the project details with the applicant
and request some modifications to reduce the number
of potential variances.
The planning staff requests the petitioner to remove the
excess driveway to Stanley Avenue
and provide a direct access driveway
to 12 Mile Road in addition to the access alley
driveway to 12 Mile Road.
Prior to the rezoning request being forwarded
to City Council, uh, 10 additional copies
of the concept plan shall be submitted
to the planning department.
The petitioner, uh, should be apprised of the fact
that formal site plan approval
before the planning commission is required prior
to obtaining a building permit should City Council
grant the rezoning request.
So with that, uh, Mr. Chair, the recommendation.
Thank you Mr. Wirth. This is a public hearing.
If anybody would like to speak on this item, come up,
state your name and address for the record
and you'll have three minutes to speak.
Good evening. Good evening
On second
Street. Seconds.
Can you talk into the mic, sir? Yes, please. Okay.
State your name and address.
Jim Moore. My address is 75 0 3 Stanley.
Okay. And I agree with Mr.
Slow down about the traffic.
The area is okay for single family,
but multifamily would cause too much
congestion and problem in the area.
That's all I gotta say about it. Thank
You. Thank you, sir.
Does anyone else like to speak on this item?
Seeing,
I think you hit the button here.
Oh, there we go.
Seeing none will turn over to the commission.
Uh, Mr. Chairman, if I may, uh,
I'd like to make a motion to approve the rezoning,
uh, per the fi uh, per the findings,
um, and discussion.
Okay. Um, one thing I want to state in the beginning,
this was table, uh, Mr.
Wirth, do we need to remove this from the table or no?
Yes. Okay.
Let's make a motion to remove it from the table first.
Okay. I'll make a motion that we remove it from the table,
then support.
I second that motion to remove from the table.
No, and, and, sorry. Second. Oh, I'm sorry.
That was a motion by Commissioner Dza, supported by Mr.
Commissioner Anza.
Um, roll call.
Commissioner Ddue. Yes.
Commissioner Anza? Yes. Commissioner Hollow.
Yes. Commissioner Murray Votes? Yes. Commissioner Beki?
Yes. To remove the table. Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To remove from the table.
Now we can do the motion for the
Now. I'd like to make
now, Mr.
Chairman, I'd like to make a motion
that we approve the rezoning request, uh,
per the, uh,
recommendation from staff and discussion.
Have a second. I second that motion.
As a motion by Commissioner dse, supported
by Commissioner Hollow Discussion,
Uh, Mr. Chairman.
Um, This is, this is,
this could end up being a very,
very nice project and development.
Um, but, uh, there is concern with, uh,
traffic up and down Stanley,
although I don't know how bad traffic is there Now.
Um, this is a rezoning, so we're still gonna have the chance
to take a look at the plan and,
and discuss, uh, the driveways and so on and so forth.
Um, have you talked to anybody at Macomb County
for access to 12 Mile Road?
'cause I know that there's that, uh, um,
that parking lot next to Tech Auto
that has a driveway on the 12 Mile Road.
Uh, have you talked to anybody from the county
as far as access to that?
We have not. I own the building
where City Burger in the hefty pizza as, uh,
we thought it'd be much easier to get in from.
Excuse me, sir. Yes. Can you please? Yes. Yeah.
We thought it'd be much easier
to get in from the parking lot that I own.
And on Stanley, I've serviced that property
for over 10 years, cutting the grass and so on,
and I'm hands on.
That property has never been issued a citation.
There really is not a lot of traffic.
Nobody has any business going in there in into Stanley
unless they live in the area.
Uh, we have a drawing what it would look like.
It's tastefully done. Right.
I've built numerous things in the city
and in Sterling Heights we developed a property on
Vermont Tastefully.
Done. It's kept up very well.
So I have a lot to, to gain there.
Not only that, I own that property.
I own that shopping center that is on facing Van D**e
and where the parking lot is.
It's, I I feel there's never been an issue
between any of the neighbors.
I've seen most of them there.
I'm hands-on between maintaining the grass or,
or doing the snow.
Uh, I've never had an issue with any of the neighbors
and there's, I'd be glad to visit any of 'em
and have a one-on-one with 'em.
Some of the concerns, these are built to keep. Right.
I have over 40 units on Hoover and on Kennedy Circle,
and I maintain my properties.
I I truly do. So
There's fair, fair enough.
I I think that, um, if you are, uh,
acceptable to getting together with,
uh, neighbors Absolutely.
And so on. Absolutely.
I think it might be a good idea to, to put, put a flyer
or something and get together with them
and explain what went where, why, and how. I,
I'd be glad to, And I think
that would go a long way in making this, that,
that much better of a development.
I, this has a lot of promise
and this is really pretty, pretty nice.
Uh, I think that
what people on Stanley don't realize is you put up these
three buildings is gonna cut down on the noise
off of 12 Mile Road. I'd
Considerably to share this with you.
If, if you'd like, if you have a minute to, to view it just
to see what it looks like, there's three buildings,
that's what they'll look like.
Right. So if you'd like to see it,
I'd be more than glad to share it with you.
Well, we're not doing that tonight. We're not doing that.
Tonight is just a rezoning. That's fine.
Let, let's, let's get out
of one mile one at a time. One at a time.
It would enhance Stanley.
There you go. Fair enough. Thank you very much.
And thank you Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Any other discussion?
Good evening, sir. Good Evening to you.
This, uh, has been an issue for quite a few years
and, uh, came before us before years ago,
and they had different ideas.
Um, I like the fact that we're missing the missing middle,
which is bringing more, uh, residential to the area.
And there's, it's nothing that's big. It's gonna stand out.
So to fit in a lot better. Thank you.
Um, as, as he said, as far as the traffic on 12 Mile,
it's going to, and the people on Stanley,
it's gonna probably buffer that a little bit.
And I think your design is good.
Uh, I know there's a couple things that, uh, might need
to be tweaked, but it'd be good
to see something come up into the area now. Thank
You. Thank you sir.
Anyone else? Anything to say?
That was the motion by Commissioner dse, support of Mr.
Hollow. Wadi. Roll call
Commissioner?
Yes. Commissioner Hall? Yes. Commissioner an yes.
Commissioner Morey votes? Yes. Commissioner Beki? Yes.
Commissioner Smith?
Yes. Motion passes. Thank you, sir.
Good luck with your project. Thank you so much.
Thank you. Have a Great night. Have a good evening Till
We meet again.
Before we go to the next item, I'd like
to recognize our ex official Con Councilman Nunan.
And I don't know if, uh, Councilwoman McGee is here or not,
but just recognize our ex officials this evening.
Item number six B,
Item number six B revised site plan
for self-storage facility.
Two properties located on the north
and south side of 10 Mile Road,
approximately 326.85 feet
east of Mount Road.
6 0 1 4
and 6 0 1 5 10 mile Road, formerly known
as DeCarlo Banquet and Convention Center, section 21 and 28.
Frank Tar Jarbo, SEH Warren,
L-L-C-P-S-P 2 3 0 0 3 8 Originally approved
on December 18th, 2023.
Rescheduled to March 10th, 2025.
Planning, commission meeting due
to an error on the public notices. Thank you.
Thanks Madam. Secretary.
I need a motion to, uh, move, postpone this
to March 10th, 2025.
Motion to postpone to March 10th, 2025.
Support That,
that was a motion by Commissioner Beki,
supported by Commissioner Ddue.
Roll call.
Commissioner Beki. Yes. Commissioner Ddue? Yes.
Commissioner answer. Yes. Commissioner Hollow? Yes.
Commissioner Mauri votes. Yes. Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To postpone the March 10th, 2025. Item number six C
Item AM Number six C site plan for new public library
located on the south side of sed,
approximately 280 feet east of Shaner Road.
1 3 7 0 0 SED Avenue, section 36
o Oksana urban slash City of Warren,
PSP 2 5 0 0 0 1.
Thank you.
Thank you. Good evening, sir.
Good evening. You Wanna
tell us a little bit about your project?
Absolutely. So my name is Brandon Cheney.
I'm the project manager with Nader Valve.
We are the, uh, land planners
and the civil engineers for the project.
I'm here representing Sana, um,
with the city library department as well
as ply architecture.
Um, both are in attendance if
you have any questions for them.
Um, so we're coming before you here today
for site plan approval for a branch library.
Um, as mentioned before, this is Officer Sedona.
So this is southeast part of the city, um, part
of the existing Underwood Park.
The property in total is six and a half acres.
We are anticipating using the far west portion
of the parcel, um, just west of the existing parking lot
and utilizing them in the existing parking lot.
Um, like I mentioned, this is for a branch library,
fairly small in size, um,
just about 2,600 square feet total.
Um, there is existing 40 parking spaces
that we will util utilizing for the site.
We will be converting a handful of them to ev uh,
and bringing two of them up to code for a DA accessibility.
Um, we will also be including, um, sidewalk along
that Western parking lot for connection into the
existing parking or existing sidewalk along Sedona.
Uh, we're also looking to include, um,
nice bio retention rain garden systems
that both will be on the north side of the building as well
as the east side of the building, um,
with some substantial landscaping
to really bring in naturalized feeling, um,
and also be able to, uh, sustainably handle some
of the stormwater management on site.
Um, this site is zoned R one C, so it is by right.
Um, there are a few additional requirements that apply
to the site, uh, that pertain to libraries and,
and uses such as libraries.
So the, the setbacks are increased
and the site does meet all the setbacks per
those use requirements.
Um, should also note too, uh, we understand
that the variances are required per section five 11.
Um, we have applied to the city's CBA for those sections.
So just so you understand those sections.
Note that uses such as libraries require
that access be gained off of major thoroughfare like Shaner.
Um, we are just about 280 feet east of Shaner.
Um, so we understand
and been working with the city's planning staff
on submitting a variance request for that.
Other things included within the site, we are including, um,
two new bike hoops.
Um, again, we're trying to promote multi, uh,
modal transportation here, both biking, walking, um,
really wanna be feel part of the,
the southeast community here off Sedona.
Um, grading, we're trying to keep to a minimum.
Um, site disturbance total is just over a half
acre utilities.
Um, we're bringing in all of our utility utility services
off the northwest corner of the building.
Um, all of the public utilities that we'll be connecting
to water, sewer, gas are just on the north side of Sedona.
So we will have to open cut a portion of Sedona.
And like I mentioned too, so from a landscaping perspective,
um, we're looking to go well
and above, beyond code again
to create this nice naturalized feeling, um,
for tenants walking in the space.
And with that, I'm here for any questions
On. Thank you sir.
Uh, correspondence,
Correspondence, taxes, current engineering number one,
the plan shall show
and identify the correct location of all existing city
of Warren underground utilities sizes, connection
and discharge point in the vicinity of the project.
Number two, the plan shall show
and identify all proposed underground utilities sizes
and connection in the vicinity of the project.
Sorry, that repeated twice. Fire.
Thank you for your submission regarding the site plan
for the new public library located on the south side
of Edon Avenue, approximately 280 feet east of Shayna Road.
Um, after I throw review, I am pleased to inform, inform you
that the site plan for this project has been approved
by the, by the fire Warren Fire Marshal's office.
Please ensure that all construction
and fire protection systems adhere to the approved plan
and comply with the applicable code
and standard throughout the development pro
development process.
Should you have any further questions
or require additional assistance, please feel free
to contact me at 5 8 6 7 5 6 2 8 0 0
extension code 3 3 0 0
or fire marshal s city fire department.department.org.
Thank you for your cooperation
and I look forward to the
successful completion of this project.
At t at and t does not object to the proposed library.
D-T-E-D-T-E electric company has reviewed the site plan
for new public library impacting 1 3 7 0 0 SED Avenue.
We're in Michigan 4 8 0 8 9 section 36
and have determined that there is no objection per the site
plan provided as long as the customer contacts DTE planning
and design at 1-800-338-ZERO 1 7 8
to discuss electrical requirements prior to building.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate
to contact me at
5 8 6 7 8 3 1 9 7 8. Thank you.
Thanks ma'am. Secretary Department's recommendation.
Okay, thank you Mr. Chair.
The recommendation is as follows, it is, uh, recommended
that the site plan for a new city
of Warren Public Library be approved
with the standard conditions of the planning commission
and more specifically, number one, five copies
of revised site plans.
That's, uh, c dash 2 0 5, uh,
must be submitted indicating the following.
A add, uh, the legal description
of the property to the site plan.
Uh, one B, uh,
add the following information from the grading plan.
That's c dash 300 to the site plan
C dash 2 0 5.
And that is, uh, the acreage of disturbance,
the propo, and that's number one.
Number two, uh, the proposed fencing.
And number three, uh, the proposed swale and drainage notes.
One C uh, indicate the location
of the proposed wall-mounted lights on the site.
Plan 1D uh, indicate, uh, excuse me,
the note must, a note must be
provided stating all landscaped areas, uh,
shall be automatically irrigated.
Uh, one e indicate all existing fencing
along the east
and west property lines, uh,
of the park on the site.
Plan C dash, uh,
2 0 5 1 FA trash enclosure
must be provided, uh, on the site
with the following note stating a trash enclosure.
Measuring a minimum 10 foot by 10 foot shall be constructed
of six foot high brick
and bo board concrete walls with a 45 degree angle cap,
half screen gates,
and be placed upon a minimum 10 foot by 18 foot
concrete pad that provides an eight foot wide apron
masonry block shall not be used as a construction material.
However, the plan indicates an alter, uh, an alternative,
smaller designed trash enclosure area.
The planning commission shall approve the alternate
alternative, excuse me, trash enclosure, uh,
provided on the site measuring 3.5 feet by nine feet
and constructed with wood slat fencing.
Additionally, the location of the trash enclosure
would be set back 30 feet from the front property line.
That's sed. Therefore, additional landscaping such
as, uh, shrubs would be required.
Addition number two, a standard green belt
or wall, uh, is not being proposed per section
2.26 of the zoning ordinance.
However, at present, there is a row of existing mature trees
along the south property line, which provides significant
screening between the existing park
and the residential district.
Additionally, the landscape plan indicates significant
plantings around the new library.
Building planning staff recommends the planning commission
approve this modified green screen along the
south property line.
Uh, condition number three,
the following variance is recommended, uh,
by the planning staff
and may need to be obtained from the zoning board
of appeals prior to the release
of the site plan to the building division.
And that is to be, to be located on SED Avenue,
a local city street,
not a major through fair.
So with that, uh, Mr.
Chair, the recommendation is submitted. Thank you.
Thank you Mr. Warr. This is a public hearing.
If there's anyone like to come
and speak up on this item, come to the podium,
state your name and address for the record
and you'll have three minutes to speak.
Good evening. My name is Sana Urban.
I'm the library director
and, um, I have worked for the city for 40 years,
have built four new libraries,
and I tell you that this fifth one is going
to be very unique.
You will not be disappointed.
It's going to look futuristic from the outside
and very accommodating and a community library
and anchor in that part of the city, which is called, uh,
oftentimes referred to as David area.
It will be a community,
an anchor in the area.
It will draw children, teens, and adults.
It'll have contain all the amenities
that the libraries throughout the city contain at this time.
We will have, uh, all of the collections that are available
to our patrons in the north, uh, east
and west of the, in the city, as well as
a new development in this particular library.
It'll have a room called
a library of things.
Now a library of things can be a variety of materials,
items that people don't need to buy
because they only need to use it one time.
So we will be saving our patrons money as well.
Uh, they'll be able to get pots and pens.
They will be able to, um,
check out, um, materials.
That's, for example, if they want to go on vacation
and they need to record their, uh, travels,
we will have a device that they can strap around their head.
And I think you know what that is.
And they'll be able to film where they've been
and what they've done.
All of this will be displayed
and patrons I know have been asking not only for
this type of library in the southeast quadrants of the city.
They want it in the north side of the city.
And we have, we have to provide the same services,
uh, in the north
as we will in the southeast quadrant of the city.
Your time is almost up, ma'am.
Well, I'm disappointed.
I have so much more that I want to say,
but I know that you will be pleased
and I am pleased to be here to help with the construction
and bring it together, furniture rooms and all of that.
It's going to be exciting for everyone in the city.
Thank you for your time
and we'll have a grand opening
sometime in the fall. Thank you for your, thank you
So much for your time and information.
We're kind of looking forward to it. Thank you. Thank you.
Good evening. I'm Good evening, sir.
I'm, um, Henry Newnan.
I'm ex-official from the city council.
Um, and I'd like that this library is right next
to Underwood Park.
I like that the landscaping plan
is gonna make a garden all the way around the library, um,
with lots of native plants mentioned in the description.
And also there will be a bioswale
or a bio retention swale to help, uh, reduce flooding.
And I think this is a very good project.
I also serve ex officio to the library commission.
So I've been hearing about it for a while.
I think it's great that if people don't have snow shovels
that are strong enough to deal with the, with the, uh, snow
that gets at the foot of their driveways, for instance,
that perhaps they'll be able to find it at the library.
I imagine the library will have, uh,
the usual accommodations for, uh, items
that people want to have.
Uh, like if you wanted a special book,
you could request the book be ordered, um, or ordered in.
Um, they have an incredible library, um, uh,
borrowing arrangement in case people don't know.
I think many of the services
of our library system are little known
and deserve much more, uh, marketing
to our population. Thank you so much.
Thank you, sir. Have a good evening.
Good evening, sir.
Good evening everybody. Jim Todd, address 13 7 21 sed.
Is there a perspectives already put together
what this building's gonna look like, renderings at all?
Does anybody know that? And when this,
when's this gonna happen going, when is gonna be built?
Does anybody know?
Well, we'll, did you, you can pose the questions to us
and then we can ask, ask the, uh,
petitioner once you're done with your speech, sir.
All right. And then, and you know,
has there been a traffic study just to see how it's,
what's gonna do the traffic?
Okay. All Right. That's all I wanna know.
When's it gonna start? What's the building gonna look
like? Things like that.
Very good, sir. Well, thank you for your input.
Anybody else like to speak on this item?
Seeing none will turn up to the commission.
Commissioner Chair, I make a motion
to approve with discussion
Support That is a motion by Commissioner Hollow,
supported by Commissioner
Anza. Go ahead with the discussion
To the petitioner.
Good evening. Sounds like a good plan.
Uh, unfortunately some, I know
that there was one time a library in that, well,
the south part of Warren Stevens, right
by what's now the Stevens Road Detention, you know, pa uh,
pond, but it's no longer in use when it was resold.
So it's a good time for a new library
to be built in that area.
But couple quick questions.
Per the residence, when do you expect construction to begin?
So currently right now we're aiming for spring of
2025. Sorry, this
spring.
Absolutely. You're gonna have groundbreaking.
What's that? You're gonna have like a formal
groundbreaking then? I
Believe so, yes.
Like different warrant facilities.
And, um, as far as like a resident said, traffic along, um,
I don't think when you're thinking about a library
increases that much more traffic.
You know, it's not like it's a store or anything,
but I don't, but, um,
because along Edon, I know that's a private,
I mean a city street, but I don't think it'll
increase traffic that much.
It'll be a detriment to the area.
I think it'll be a good addition to that area, especially
where you're gonna be having it landscaped and everything.
Yeah. And again, we're trying
to promote also multimodal transportation, right?
So though we are obviously providing parking, um, for anyone
who needs access it, um, from a vehicle, we're also looking
for patrons to access it by walking and biking too,
To go probably along with this proposed, uh, mobility plan
that the city is looking into too.
Absolutely. Yeah. Thank, thank you, chairman.
Thank you sir. Anyone else like to speak on this item? Mr.
Chairman? Mr. Ey
Can't help it.
Um, uh, I'm thrilled
to see something like this going up,
especially in this area.
Um, years ago people were screaming, how,
why do we need libraries?
Why do we need this? Why do we need that?
I think libraries have been an anchor for the community.
They have helped students, they have helped parents,
and it's a, uh, it's a very positive thing for
the community where they're located at.
That's one, two.
Um, after everything's sent done, I wanna congratulate Ms.
Urban on her, uh, journalist work.
As far as the library director here in the city of Warren.
She's done a terrific job
and she ought to be commended for it.
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you. Thank you.
Anyone else like to speak on this item?
Good evening, sir. I think it's a very good idea.
I mean, we have parks where the kids can go and play,
but nothing with a library
that if say they don't wanna play, they can go
to the library, they can read a book or look some things up
or, uh, I think it'd be a great addition.
Um, I went by and looked at the property today
and I was looking for the sign.
It was kind of hidden in some trees,
but, uh, I'm excited about.
One of the questions I had though, it says
that they're using atory windows,
and I had a question about those and,
but I, I read what they do.
They, they're above eye level so the neighbors can't see in
and they let more light in, natural light in,
so it cuts down on the lighting in the place.
But I also read some, uh, things that sometimes they're,
they're not energy efficient windows.
And I was just wondering if there's things you could do
as far as, they said sometimes there's a lot of sun
that heat things up inside or if it's cold and,
and let the cool area and, um, uh,
I guess you could probably have the windows tinted
to cut down on some of the light that's coming through it,
but I've never seen those kind of windows before.
I hear they may have 'em at the other library,
but I haven't noticed them there.
But, uh,
maybe you can talk a little bit about the, the windows.
It's a great, it's a great comment
and one we will certainly, um, discuss
with the architectural team coming
up to, to respond.
Alright,
Thank you. Craig
Bora, I'm an architect with Ply Architects.
We've worked on working on the project,
so the clear story windows all they are, they're,
they're just like any other window in terms
of their energy efficiency, their insulated glazing units.
Um, they're low e in terms of, uh, emissions.
So they, they have the same thermal performance
as any other window that you would have.
They're just positioned a little bit higher.
And ours are actually, they have a couple
that are quite high
and they're facing north, so they're not bringing in direct
sunlight, but they're bringing in ambient light.
So they won't cause heat gain or increase in temperatures.
But they will, as you mentioned, reduce the need
for artificial lighting on the inside during the daytime.
So we'll be able to reduce the energy levels
that the building's consuming around the book stacks.
Uh, in the main reading area, we have windows that are about
this tall and about this high.
So when you're standing, you can look out
and if you're walking by, you can see in, see the lights on,
see patrons that are standing and walking around.
But when you're sitting, you're down
at the level of the books.
So that's, that's all the, those windows are doing in terms
of clear story just simply means that they're slightly,
slightly higher in the room, if that helps.
Alright. Thank you sir. Yep. Uh, another question.
What are the hours of the library gonna be?
Ana, are you able to speak to that?
The library will be open six days a week.
There will be two evenings, uh, days that open.
They will open at from 12 to eight
and the other days will be, um, nine to five.
And, uh, Saturdays, uh, Fridays
and Saturdays are also nine to five.
So they'll have two evenings as do the other libraries,
plus morning hours as well.
Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. You're
Very welcome.
Alright. Uh, nobody else has any other questions.
Um, I welcome this change is, I think it's positive
and it's something that the community's going
to enjoy having there
because it's something that's gonna draw kids to that area.
So, being that said, uh, that was a motion
by Commissioner Holloway, supported
by Commissioner Ansar. Roll call
Commissioner Hollow.
Yes. Commissioner sir? Yes. Commissioner Ddue. Yes.
Commissioner Votes? Yes. Commissioner Beki? Yes.
Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To approve and good luck with the project.
The motion passes. Thank you. Have a good evening.
I Number six D,
Item number 60, site plan
to convert vacant warehouse building into self storage
facility located on the west side of Lorna Avenue,
approximately 1,180 feet south of 12 Mile Road.
2 8 5 0 5.
Lorna, section 16, property and property Group.
LLC, Teh Patel.
PS P 2 5 0 5. Thank you.
Good evening, sir. How are you today?
Good evening. I'm well.
Can you tell us a little bit about your project?
Sure. Uh, again, good evening, chair person,
board members, and planning staff.
My name is Dave Breeding.
I'm here on behalf of h and n Property Group, LLC.
To respectfully present our responses to the recommendations
for converting our vacant warehouse building
into a self storage facility at 2 8 5 0 5 Lorna Avenue.
We sincerely appreciate the thorough review
and the opportunity to address each of these items raised.
We are committed to making this project successful
for the community and for all stakeholders.
Thank you, sir. Correspondence,
Correspondence, taxes current Comcast.
In response to your utility request for the above project,
please refer to the attached map for the location of Comcast
CTV slash fiber facilities.
Aerial cables are highlighted in orange for fiber
and yellow for coast cable.
Underground is highlighted in blue for fiber
and green for coast cable.
If we can be of further assistance, please feel free
to contact us by email at CCC utility
request@teamsigma.com.
Conrail, if access is needed on Conrail right away, a permit
to entry must be obtained.
The following link will direct you, direct you
how to apply for the permit.
Uh, h um, https conrail
do.com/safety/working-on-conrail-dash
property.
DT EDTE Electric Company has reviewed the site plan
to convert vacant warehouse building into
self storage facility.
DT Electric Company has no objection to the site plan
to convert vacant warehouse building into self storage
facility impacting 2 8 5 0 5 Lorna Section 16 part
of the site plan provided.
If you have any questions, please do not do not hesitate
to contact me at
5 8 6 7 8 3 1 9 7 8. Thank you.
Thank you ma'am. Secretary playing
department's recommendation.
All right. Thank you Mr. Chair.
The recommendation is as follows, that it's recommended
that the site plan
to convert a vacant warehouse building into a new self
storage facility be approved with the standard conditions of
of the planning commission
and more specifically, number one, uh, five copies
of revised site plans must be submitted
indicating the following.
Um, one a, uh, add the site data information pertaining,
uh, to the existing building size
and proposed second floor size from the landscape plan.
That's SP dash one
to the site plan sheet, that's number one.
Additionally, uh, the existing building size
square footage varies slightly, uh, between plans.
That's, uh, 9,880 square feet SP dash one
and nine hundred eight hundred and ninety eight square feet.
That sheet, uh, number one,
therefore use the correct number one.
Uh, BA note shall be, uh,
provided stating all lighting on the site plan
on the site rather shall be shielded not,
and not encroach upon abutting properties.
Uh, the, uh, light fixtures pole
and base, uh,
shall be no higher than 20 feet from the ground level.
Uh, all glare shall be eliminated from all light fixtures
and upward directed lighting shall not be permitted.
Um, one c uh, the height
of the wall along the north property line, uh,
shall be changed from seven feet, uh,
to six feet on the site plan
condition number two, two copies
of revised elevation plans must be submitted
indicating the following.
And that is, uh, instead
of permanently securing the overhead doors in place
on the east and west elevations, uh,
the planning staff recommends either brick
to match the existing facade
or use another building material.
The planning staff believes either
of those options would enhance the building more than
permanently sealing over the overhead doors.
Um, condition number three, two copies
of revised landscape plans
must be submitted indicating the following.
And that is, uh, to indicate the parking area, uh,
the same as on the site plan.
Condition number four,
as indicated in the recommendation shall be removed.
And condition number five, uh, a performance bond, uh,
in the amount of, uh, $28,500, uh, be posted according
to the estimated cost of $950,000 by the petitioner.
So with that, uh, Mr.
Chair, the recommendation is submitted. Thank you.
Thank you Mr. Worth. This is a public hearing.
If anyone would like to come and speak on this
item, please come down.
State your name and address for the record
and you'll have three minutes to speak.
Seeing none will turn over to the commission.
I make a motion to approve with discussion
support Beki.
There's a motion by Commissioner Hollow, support
by Commissioner b Beki.
Discussion
To the petitioner.
Just a couple, um, quick questions.
Do you agree with all the recommendations
that our planning director has submitted?
And do you have any problems with any of 'em? Um,
I, I don't agree with all of them
and I, I do have a response
that I've created for each one of those items.
If you'd allow me to read it, I'll do so.
Which one don't you agree with? I'd like,
Um, well, I, so for the first one, the building size
and land, uh, plan consistency.
We will indeed verify the square
footage and make that correct.
Um, okay. Uh, those, uh,
those will correctly unify these figures on all plans
and sub subsequent documents.
We present a single accurate number.
Likewise, we'll ensure our landscape plan clearly depicts
the parking lot precisely as shown on our site plan.
We will also add the site data pertaining
to the existing building size
and propose second floor from the landscape
plan to the site plan.
And then in regards to the lighting,
our project scope does not include modifying,
uh, the existing lighting.
There are no nearby residential areas
that might be impacted by light.
Spillover in the lighting currently in the, in the place
has not presented any issues.
More light in this area would be better
and we feel that being an industrial area,
nobody would complain about the existing lighting.
Um, to speak to the doors, the overhead doors,
the street facing door,
we acknowledge there is one overhead door facing the street.
It has been part of this building for a long time,
but we are open to make reasonable modifications
to the front elevation.
We propose to remove the overhead door, infill the opening
with steel framing and apply a pre-finished metal panel.
This, this opening will match what is being done to the one
of the rear doors in the southwest.
As shown on the plans, Um,
the, uh, non-visible doors, there are two overhead doors,
um, positioned at the rear, um, or
otherwise out of public view.
Our plan calls for the Southwest door
to be infield using framing
and pre-finished metal panel with an egress store included.
As outlined in our submission, this modification aligns
with both functional
and aesthetic considerations regarding the Northwest store.
We believe the most practical
and cost-effective approach is to leave it as is.
Given that the door is not visible from the street removing
and infilling, it would introduce an unnecessary expense
without offering any tangible benefit to the community.
Additionally, it, it would not alter the building's
appearance from the public's perspective.
Um, to speak to the seven foot wall,
I visited the site today where I measured the existing wall,
it actually measures five foot 10 from that property.
We also noticed that the submitted plan indicates the wall
as seven foot, which is incorrect.
We will make sure that the plan is updated
to reflect the accurate measurement.
We are not proposing, uh, any modifications to the wall
and respectfully request that it be allowed to remain as is
to maintain the current privacy
and buffering without the need of a variance.
Um, for the performance bond,
we acknowledge the city's requirement
for a performance bond in the amount of 28,500
based on the estimated construction costs of 950,000.
We're prepared to, uh, post this bond as part
of the normal site plan approval process,
ensuring the city's interests are well
protected. Thank you.
Thank you sir. Is any other discussion?
I have none. Uh, Mr. Chairman? Mm-hmm.
Uh, uh, director Wirth,
did you mention A1C as in Charlie?
Yes, I did. Uh, can you repeat it please?
Because I don't have it on my paper.
I know because I added it late in the day.
Not a problem. Can you read it through again please?
One C The height of the wall
along the north property line, uh,
changed from, okay.
This is on the site plan.
The height of the wall along the north
property line changed, shall be changed from seven feet
to six feet on the site plan.
Okay. Alright. All right. Thank, thank you sir.
Thank you Mr. Chairman.
Any other discussion
To the petitioner?
Good evening, sir. Uh, I went by and measured the wall too
and I measured a couple different spots and it varies.
The one spot to the ground is like five and a half feet
and the other was like five foot eight.
So I'm sure you could
probably get six feet in there somewhere.
Yes sir. But it's, and not seven feet.
And that's the main thing we're concerned about there.
Um, the other other question I had was, uh,
this is a self storage unit for people to store
their personal belonging, personal things they're trying
to store like a regular storage unit?
Yes sir. Interior or self storage? Climate control.
What size are the units?
Uh, the units vary from a five by 10, 10 by 10, 10 by 15,
10 by 2010 by 25 in those neighborhoods.
Okay. The only concern I had was, uh,
I didn't see an elevator.
So people have a lot of stuff to be able to get
to the second floor storage.
It seemed like it would need to be a service elevator
or something they could use to get to the second floor.
Yes sir. Yeah, we actually in this size, um, building
elevators, we don't, we try to get away from just
'cause it drives the cost up.
So, but we do have a lift.
The lift is set up to where if you were to rent a unit,
you walk in, you place your contents in the lift,
you send the lift to the second floor,
the stairwell is located right by the lift.
You go upstairs, unload your belongings
so you're not carrying them up and down stairs. Okay.
Yeah, that was a concern I had.
'cause if you got some big belongings trying
to carry 'em up the stairs and down the stairs they could
Absolutely. Okay.
So you will have a lift in there.
Oh, I see where it says lift foot circled right there. Okay.
Because I was thinking the elevator,
because people get in with their stuff and go,
but you're only going up at one floor.
So I can understand how the lift would work just as well.
Um, basically that was
I All I was concerned
about on that one.
I think it's a good idea. Good use for the building.
Um, is it gonna be, um,
well you said it's just for people who want
to bring the stories, so it doesn't matter what they bring
as long as it's gonna work out.
I didn't know if it was gonna be like particular for per
like, I'm thinking like parts and stuff like that
or just mostly just normal people's personal things, right?
Correct. Yeah, it's open to the public.
So anybody in commercial, industrial
or residential could rent any of these units?
You could store parts in there.
You could store your living room furniture while
you're moving to a new house.
Anything,
What, what kind of access is there for people?
And is the access, uh, available after hours?
Uh, yes sir. It actually, we will, um, have a,
at the front entry door, there'll be a vestibule in there
with a kiosk where you actually can log into that kiosk
and be able to rent a unit.
And uh, that kiosk will give you a passcode.
The doors are access control.
There's one in the front, one in the rear,
the main being in the rear.
'cause that's a good loading area. Um,
and then once you have the code, you get also a code
for the unit that you're going to rent
and you can then access the facility and your unit.
Okay, Thank you.
So the uh, overhead door on the back would be where most
of the big items would be brought into the building?
Um, no, the, there's two overhead doors.
One, we're actually, um, totally framing in with a,
like a vertical metal panel.
Um, getting rid of that door
'cause it's part of a stairwell that's back there.
The other door, um, will just be sealed off.
That was our, uh, our recommendation suggestion.
Alright. Alright.
Uh, thank you sir. Any other questions?
Yes, Mr. Chair? Mr. Ansar?
I do have a question.
It is a, a corporate company or just a owned by yourself?
This is, um, a private owned company, I guess you will.
Um, it's a customer that came to us.
They haven't done storage before
and they wanted to, they actually own the building
and they wanted to try something new
and, uh, wanted to go with storage, self storage.
So I have another question.
Um, do you guys have a, a climate change room,
climate room or regular room?
Or do you have a boat option?
Um, the whole building is climate control.
So we actually try to maintain in the winter, um,
about 55, 60 degrees and then the summer Cool.
Down to about 80.
And I have another question.
So you have a different type of, different size, uh, room.
Um, as far as storage units in the building? Yes.
We have a, um, wide range of,
it's called a unit mix that we have.
So, um, as I mentioned a little bit
before, we have different size, like five by 10
or a 10 by 10.
So whatever type of unit you need, you're able
to rent as long as they're available.
So you do, you do have a multiple option for the people.
Yes. Thank you for clearing this. Sure. Thanks.
Thank you, sir. Any other questions?
Um, I just wanna confirm one thing with the comments
and the concern the petitioner had on the recommendation.
So when we approve it, are we modifying the motion
to approve with those comments
and like, whatever he was kind
of having those concerns about?
Um, Mr. Worth, can you come up a minute please?
I know you had concerns about the door doing a different,
uh, type of application close off those doors,
what he's recommending.
Is that gonna be okay?
Yes. That we, this was a suggestion, uh, from the staff.
It's not a requirement. Okay.
So, um, uh, he, he feels strongly about, uh, what he'd like
to do and that I'm not gonna argue with that.
Alright. Alright. Thank you sir. Okay. No other questions?
Just one more thing. Um, is, is it possible if, um,
if I'm sorry, I don't know.
I don't know your name.
Mr. Wirth. Mr. Wirth, is that correct? Okay.
So if he said there were recommendations, is it possible
to leave the front door as is
and seal that door, then would that be an issue?
Okay.
He said no. No.
He, he did say it would not be an issue. Okay.
As long as it's not an issue
and, uh, you're okay with it
and he's okay with it. We're okay with it.
Thank you. Alright.
There was a motion by Commissioner Hollow, supported
by Commissioner Beki. Roll call.
Commissioner Hollow. Yes.
Commissioner Beki. Yes. Commissioner Aner? Yes.
Commissioner dse? Yes. Commissioner Moori votes?
Yes. Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To prove with the deletion.
Deletion of item four for the variance for the wall.
Thank You. So the motion has passed.
You've been approved. Have a good evening, sir.
And good luck with your project. Thank you too.
Thank You very much. Welcome. Thank you.
Welcome to Ward. Thank you.
Item number six E.
Item number six E site plan for new in senator
and storage building at wastewater treatment plan.
Located at the end of war Cope Avenue.
Approximately 510 feet south of 14 mile Road.
3, 2, 3, 6 0 War Cope Avenue.
Section three, city of Warren slash Donna.
Do Dsky PSP 2 5 0 0 0 2. Thank you.
Good evening. Good evening.
Good evening, commissioner and chair commissioners.
My name is Zanna Eski.
I'm sanitary engineer for the, um,
city's wastewater treatment plant.
Tonight with me are also Mr.
Aaron Uranga from Hubble Roth
and Clark Cities consulting engineering firm.
Um, for the project that we're here, um, today, as well as,
um, Mr. Anthony Kro, city of war
and wastewater treatment plant facilities engineer.
We're here tonight to respectfully seek
approval consideration from your body
for the city's incinerator replacement project.
Um, the city's incinerator, um, the city of water
and waste wastewater treatment plant incinerator has been
built, um, has been in services since 1972 over the, um,
five decades that it has been a news.
It, um, it started, um, it got to,
it reached its useful life.
Um, the last few years we've been experiencing more
and more frequent breaks.
Um, and upon determination review
and, um, determination of options available
for this process, we have, um, arrived with the conclusion
that replacement of it is the most, um,
feasible option for City of Warren.
Um, if I may, uh, we can give, uh, we would like
to give a brief, um, summary of the project.
Um, Anthony,
maybe just a brief summary. Yes. Thank
You.
Thank you. Hello.
Um, so this project was brought on as Donna said, um,
um, as a result from our current incinerator, um,
that has reached its useful life.
Uh, the project is being proposed for a new building
with a new solids handling, um, portion that, uh,
our current building uses belt filter presses.
This new building uses, um,
Screw presses, thank you screw presses to, uh,
dewater the solids that, uh,
are rink coming in from our treatment plant.
And it reduces the, um,
the moisture content significantly more than our current,
um, belt presses.
And then from that point, um, it's pumped to, uh,
a biocon ERS dryer system, which has, uh,
energy recovery properties to that.
Uh, and it takes that, uh, dried cake
and it reduces the moisture even further to the point
where it's very extremely dry.
And then is, um, incinerated, uh, in, in a new incinerator,
uh, at 2000 degrees Fahrenheit.
Um, HRC
and the city have been working with, um, the eagle
and trying to get, uh, our air permit, which took 26 weeks
or, yeah, 20, 26 months, I apologize.
26 months to get the air permit.
'cause we've been going back and forth with regulation
and, um, you know, the state has reviewed this
and has finally agreed to our air permit based on, uh,
the air quality control devices being put
and also the research that's been done with, uh, with PFAS
and with, uh, the other AIR requirements.
Um, that's pretty much the overall gist of the building
and why we're, why we are building it
or why we would like to build it.
Thank you, sir. Thank you ma'am. Uh, correspondence.
Correspondence, taxes current D-T-E-D-T-E Electric Company
has reviewed the site plan for new incentive
and storage building at wastewater treatment plan due
to the electric company, has no objection to the site plan
for new incentive
and storage building at wastewater treatment plan impacting
3 2 3 6 0 war Cope Avenue section three
per the site plan provided.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate
to contact me at 5 8 6 7 8 3 1 9 7 8.
Thank you.
Thanks ma'am. Secretary, uh,
planning department's recommendation.
Uh, thank you Mr. Chair.
The recommendation, uh, is as follows, it is recommended
that the site plan for new incinerator
and storage building at the, uh, city of Warren
wastewater treatment plant be approved, uh, with the, uh,
standard, uh, conditions of the planning commission
and more specifically, number one, uh, five copies
of revised site plans.
That's C 11, uh, must be submitted indicating the following.
One A that's, uh, labeled the
odor control duct and odor control facility on the site.
Plan one B labeled the existing stack, uh,
on the site plan and provide the proposed height.
One C labeled the location of the proposed stack
to be incorporated into the new incinerator building.
Uh, it shall also be added to the site data chart.
1D provide one accessible parking space on the site
to comply with a DA standards.
One E indicate all existing
and proposed fencing on the site.
Plan, uh, one f uh,
provide the proposed stormwater detention area on the site.
Plan one G, uh, label the proposed retaining wall
including height on the site.
Plan condition number two, per a
phone conversation on February 14th, 2025
with city engineer Anthony Con Conigliaro.
Uh, the new stacked approximately 66.67 feet in
height will be incorporated into the new incinerator
building, uh, condition number three, uh, two copies
of revised elevation plans.
That's a seven must be submitted, indicating the following.
And that is to label the location
and height of the proposed stack, uh,
to be incorporated into the new incinerator building.
Uh, condition Number four, per the plans, uh, a portion
of the development is located within the 100
year flood zone.
The project shall adhere to all regulations to
construct in a flood area, uh, condition number five.
Uh, the acreage of disturbance is indicated at, uh,
one point, uh, two six acres
and shall comply with the city's stormwater ordinance.
And with that, uh, Mr.
Chair, uh, is the, uh, recommendation. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. War. This is a public hearing.
If anyone would like to speak on
this item, please come forward.
State your name and address for the record,
and you'll have three minutes to speak.
Hi again. My name is Henry Newnan.
I am, um, ex-officio to the Planning Commission.
And, uh, my address is 2 7 1 5 6
Gale Drive, Warren, Michigan.
Um, uh, people have been asking how are you gonna pay for it
and why do we need to do it?
Um, why we need to do it is
because the old wastewater treatment plant, uh,
no longer really can get parts and, uh, repairing it.
The repairs we've been doing lately are very expensive.
Um, and the new project offers, uh,
great features in terms of, um, how we're gonna pay
for it if we act in a timely fashion.
So I hope you will, as I imagine you will.
Um, the city has arranged a, uh,
bond with the state.
There, there would be a 2% interest bond, a low, low, uh,
interest bond, and, uh, $10 million
of it would be forgiven.
And so I certainly hope that this is gonna go through.
Um, another thing is we worry about incinerator having
terrible toxic emissions,
but, um, Eagle, the, uh,
Michigan State Environmental Authority has required
increasingly, um, severe basically, uh, treatments
to the air so that it's very filtered.
And, um, I've been informed by Donna, um, that
about half of the plant is different, uh,
air treatment facilities.
So, uh, we really shouldn't have any, uh, problem with, uh,
with pollution coming out of there.
And, um, it's, uh, a good project.
I hope we'll go for it. Thank you so much.
Thank you, sir. Does anyone else
like to speak on this item?
Seeing none will turn over to the commission.
There was a motion by, um,
We have a motion.
We, we need a motion. Mr.
Chairman, I'll make a motion that we approve
As a motion by Commissioner Ducey Support,
Support Maury Support
Maury roll call.
I do have a quick question. Oh, nevermind.
Yeah, if I may discussion. I'm sorry. Yes, please.
Um, did we have a motion with discussion or? Yeah,
Motion with discussion.
Okay. Um, how long do we expect this to take?
Like, um, the project to take place?
The project is expect the construction
of the project is expected to take about two years.
Two years, correct. Um, I know you did mention the fact
that, um, we ran out of the lifecycle of the old one.
We have been using it since the 19.
I may be off on the, uh, year
of 60 something, I believe I heard.
Um, so did we, uh, till this two years,
we're still gonna be using the current one?
That is correct. The existing incinerator, um,
at the plant has been put in service in 1972.
It's still operating, but we're experiencing more
and more frequent breaks of it.
And this, the existing incinerator will be in place
until the construction of a new, um,
incinerator is, um, completed.
There's also gonna be a, um, short time shortly
after the construction where it will be, um,
transitioned over from the existing system to the new one.
And after that, um, in accordance
with the air permit regulations that we obtained for
that new installation, we have 18 months, um, I'm sorry,
24 months to, um, decommission
the existing incinerator.
Okay. Um, one of the other thing I noticed is that
with the new, um, there's going a new building going up,
it's gonna be, um, a lot
of the trees are gonna get cut down.
Do you have any idea how many trees that will be or
Within the footprint of the existing building?
Um, yeah, with, with the new structure going up, it,
it was somewhere mentioned, the fact that I think, um,
it didn't have a number to the amount of trees
that's gonna be going down, but, um,
I believe the area where the building it's gonna be, it's,
um, there, there shouldn't be much trees.
If there are, then um, those will be replaced, um, um,
in accordance with the, uh, landscaping plan.
Yeah, I was trying to find that.
Right now it's, it did mention a couple of trees are going,
that's why I was looking at this too.
I was like, it didn't match.
So I was just wondering is there a number to it?
But that's okay. Thank you.
Thank you. Any other discussion?
I just have one last question.
Um, did you, to the petitioner, did you say this,
this could be like wastewater incinerated
or sudden solids burnt,
or, I didn't quite understand that part.
This, this incinerator is for, um, wastewater,
um, um, product.
There is no incineration of like, um, um,
salad waste such as trash.
And now it's strictly for sanitary wastewater.
And it's only from the city of Warren collection,
sanitary collection system now outside, um, um,
waste being brought to
that facility strictly for City of Warren.
Okay. Thank you. Thank you.
Any other discussion after you incinerate?
Good evening. After you incinerate the products, I know, um,
I'm kind of guessing it would be like doing a cremation
where you got ash or whatever.
It's left over. What,
how's the ash that's left over handled?
There is an amount, um, uh, left over
after the process is complete.
And that, um, the spoils
or the, um, ash it's being, um, disposed of. At landfill.
At landfill, Yes. Okay.
All right. Um, I can't think of anything else.
Good. I think it's a good idea.
We need to upgrade sometimes when things don't last forever.
So, uh, with that, I'll do, there was a motion
by Commissioner Ddue, supported by Commissioner Morey.
Roll call. Commissioner
Dse. Yes. Commissioner
Morey votes? Yes. Commissioner? Yes.
Commissioner Hollow? Yes. Commissioner Beki? Yes.
Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To approve. Good luck with your project.
Thank you. Item number
seven, correspondence.
Um, notice from, from the city
of Sterling Heights Planning Commission
that the draft master plan for the city
of Sterling Height has been made available
for review and comment.
Thank you.
Need a motion to receive and file?
I make a motion to receive and file support
Does a motion by Commissioner Hollow
Support Commissioner Ansy.
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
Item number eight, old Business eight. A
Site plan for new warehouse building
and open storage located on the north side of Barber Avenue,
approximately 364 point 64 feet west
of Glory D Drive.
1 4 6 0 1 Barbara Avenue, section 13, Marvin Maki,
Kristin Investment properties L-L-C-P-S-P
2 3 0 0 2 1.
This was approved on November si November 6th, 2023.
Petitioner has sold the property
and is withdrawing the site plan. Thank you.
Need a motion to withdraw the site plan?
I make a motion to withdraw the site
plan support.
There is a motion by Commissioner Hollow.
Support by Commissioner dse. All in favor? Aye.
Aye. Any opposed? Item eight B
Eight B Special land use
for Banquet Hall located on the east side of DDA Road,
approximately 255 feet south of 11 Mile Road.
2 6 7 6 8 DDA Road,
2 6 8 0 0 DDA Road, section 19.
Tamara Owens, PSLU 2 4 0 2.
This was approved on September 23rd, 2024.
The petitioner is request requesting
to waive the requirement of a recorded document
for ingress slash egress with the owners
for the two properties abutting to the north. Thank you.
Good evening, ma'am. Good Evening.
You wanna tell us a little bit about what's going on?
Yes. So I am attempting
To open up an event space.
Um, I was approved
for the conditional special land use back
in September as stated.
Um, I've been having some issues with getting approval
for the ingress egress from those two um, companies.
I've sent emails to both the
One Property, which is Parkview Animal Hospital,
located at 1 9 7 2 11 Mile Road.
The, um, owner of that property wa I communicated them
with them via email
and she rejected
to sign the ingress egress form Hi.
And the owners of the Creative Building
and Remodeling Company at 2 6 8 2 0 Quida Road.
I emailed them and spoke with them over the phone.
However, they are now nonresponsive, so I'm requesting
to have this waived.
Alright. Thank you ma'am.
Is there any correspondence on this? No. No.
Uh, p department's recommendation?
Yes. Uh, Mr. Chair? Yep.
I have a, a note here that I, uh, sent
to the planning Commission,
but the bottom line is, is to, um, it is recommended
that the, uh, petitioner's request to waive the requirement,
uh, for the ingress egress document be approved.
Just we want it waived.
It's, uh, it's more the shopping center's responsibility
to get these things done.
And, uh, it's doesn't appear to be that important,
uh, to them.
And, uh, this is a shop amongst the, the other shops there.
There's no necessity there. So,
Thank you Mr. War. We'd
Like it waived. Thank
you. Need a motion to waive the requirement
for the ingress and egress,
Mr. Chairman?
Uh, I'll make a motion to, uh,
waive the ingress and egress with discussion.
Okay. Can
we get a second support, Mor
Okay, Go ahead.
There was a motion by Commissioner Ducey support
by Commissioner Morey discussion.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Um, the creative,
uh, the, the one place, the creative, uh,
Building and remodel Building and, and so on
and so forth, they have to use your parking lot,
the parking lot there to get things into their garage.
Yes. There's a,
their slab leads into their loading dock. Um,
Has, has, ha have you, has anybody from your side,
uh, asked them how they would like it if you put, uh, uh,
cement blocks in front of their driveway?
And the same thing with the, with the, uh, animal hospital.
So, when I spoke with my landlord, he basically reported
that he attempted to reach out to both of them.
He stated that there was already an agreement in place
regarding the creative, um, kitchen remodeling business
for them to have access to their loading dock.
But outside of that, he has not been able
to get in contact with ownership.
Um, uh, uh,
director Wirth, is it possible for you to get a copy
of this document?
Okay. This, this is the Deter site. We're talking Yes.
Right? Yes. And, uh, we'd like a copy if you can.
Do you have a copy of
The, To the one, to, to Quinter? Yeah. I
Don't have the address.
I could, I could
Email, email it to us.
Okay. Yeah, that would, that would be good.
I had it drawn it by an attorney. Yeah.
Did they, he signed it?
The attorney or the, the, my landlord or the owner?
The owner wrote, signed it.
So I had a lawyer. Okay. Up the, for both businesses.
Okay. So there hasn't, maybe I'm a little confused here.
I thought you had said that there was a previous agreement
That wasn't written Up.
There was never one. Okay.
I thought you said that there was a
previous agreement. There
Was a verbal agreement between my landlord
and the company to allow them to use their loading dock.
Uh, you know what, uh,
what would happen if you wrote a letter to them both Mr.
Wirth, because you might have a little more, uh,
input on getting them to give you a signed piece
of paper than anybody else.
Well, that,
I don't know if I have that much, uh, sway, uh,
when it comes to, uh, some matters like this, I can do that.
Um, but it, uh, I I still indicate it's not
that important.
Um, and so I would suggest that you
allow it to be waived. Just
Let it go. But
I, but I will still, uh, yeah.
Author a letter to them, to both these, these owners
to encourage 'em to get these things, uh, done. That,
That would be perfect.
Alright. Thank you very, very much.
You're welcome. Thank you, Mr. Thank
You, Mr. Doe. Anybody
else got discussion?
That is the motion by Commissioner Za. Have
The one and only Supported
by Commissioner Moy. Roll call.
Commissioner Dza? Yes. Commissioner Moy votes? Yes.
Commissioner Aner? Yes. Commissioner Hollow? Yes.
Commissioner Berki? Yes. Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To waive the requirement for the ingress. Egress.
Thank you. Good luck with your project. Thank you.
Item number nine, bond releases. Seeing none.
Item number 10, new business.
Um, recommendation for approval
of the updated planning department fee schedule
to be forwarded to city council.
Thanks.
Um, Mr. Ward, did you wanna come up
and speak on this recommendation?
Uh, yes. Uh, occasionally,
and I'll say maybe every four or five years.
Uh, we take a look at our fees, how they compare to, uh,
other communities and municipalities
and, uh, you know, see where, where our fees fall.
And so that's what we did do.
And you can see in the highlighted bolded
areas here mostly, and I'll read 'em off.
It's the standard rezoning we changed.
Uh, and I'm, and, um, the rezoning with conditions.
Special land use, special land use with site plan,
planned unit development, site plan,
downtown center site plan.
These are all types of, uh,
business agreements that, that, uh, need extra work, uh,
as opposed to, uh, everything else that you see there.
Everything else in the listing, uh, the,
the costs are either a little higher
or a little lower than most, uh, municipalities, uh,
uh, around the area.
So this is what is my suggestion then
taking that information, uh, to, uh, raise, uh, uh,
the fees on the, the items that I just, uh, mentioned.
I, I think it's necessary. And, uh, so I'd like to do that.
And it'll take, uh, city council approval in the end.
So it's a recommendation to City Council to, uh,
approve these fee fee changes.
Thank you, Mr. Worth. Um, I wanna do a motion
to approve with discussion.
Anybody have any discussion on these fees with Mr. Worth?
I make a motion that we approve the
fee schedule as stated.
Okay. With discussion if
needed. I second that motion.
That is a motion by comm.
Commissioner Duhe support Got Mr.
Hollow, what's your discussion, sir?
If somebody else has some discussion on it, have at it?
Uh, I think it's about time.
I don't know when the last time you raised the fee
schedule, but it's
About four years ago.
It's due. Alright.
And I don't think it's excessive, so well done.
Thank you Mr. Chair. That
Was a motion by Mr. Commissioner.
Ddue support. Mr. Hollow.
Wadi. All in favor? Aye.
Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you. Mr. W
Thank you.
I'm number 11. Citizen participation.
If anyone would like to come up and speak, state your name
and address for the record and you'll have three minutes
to state what you have to say.
Not all. I want you said it's
Full stuff tonight.
I, uh, I'm Henry Newnan.
I'm, uh, exofficio, um, et cetera.
I went to the, um, mdot Restore, the Ruther I 6 96 laws
to Quida Roads reconstruction.
And, um, it's not, it's not a part
of the planning department's thing,
but, uh, 6 96 will, um, be having some,
uh, eastbound diversions in Oakland County
and it could affect your travels.
Just thought I'd let you know.
Thank you, sir. Anyone
else have any discussion who close the citizen Participation
planning commission, business 12
a planning director's report.
You should have just stayed up there. Exercise.
Alright, so I don't have much to report.
I was off one, one of the weeks.
So the other, the other week, uh, I attended a, a webinar
two days in a row, uh, from the office actually,
and Michelle did too.
It's called the Transportation, uh, Bonanza.
And it's, uh, all sorts of, uh, different topics that, uh,
they discuss, uh, regarding transportation.
I'll just leave it at that.
If you want more information, I can, uh,
provide that from the office.
But, um, it, it was pretty interesting.
Had some decent work there.
Um, Looking at everything else,
there was a lot of office work preparing for this, uh,
meeting tonight.
Uh, the only other thing is, um, it was, uh, later
in the day today that, uh, we had an internal meeting
to talk about donation boxes
or bins that have been, uh, materializing
all over our city.
They've become a problem.
And so, uh, several department heads
and city attorney attended that.
Plus our staff, uh, to discuss this problem.
And we'll continue to discuss it.
We're gonna meet with, uh, a person who,
uh, is in charge of, uh, working
with those bins and setting them in place.
Well, we're gonna talk to that person, uh, tomorrow.
And then about three weeks we're gonna have another internal
meeting, uh, to, uh, determine exactly how, uh,
we're gonna handle these.
Right now. We look at, uh, these bins as,
uh, open storage.
So if they're not in an industrial area, uh,
M1, M two, or, you know, any of the MS where there's
storage is, uh, permitted
or has to be on a property in a certain way, um,
then, uh, it's gonna be a variance.
And we see a lot of these bins in commercial areas.
So that's, that's a concern.
But we also want them to have site plan approval.
And it may seem excessive.
We don't think it is, uh, at the rate that, uh,
they're dropping these bins off just about anywhere.
Uh, we, we've gotta do something and take care of this.
So that's what, uh, we expect to do in the next few weeks.
Keep us busy trying to figure that out.
So that's about all I have to report, uh,
if the commission has any questions for me about anything.
Thank you, Mr. Wir.
Does anybody have any questions for Mr.
Wirth?
Seeing none, item 12 B, planning, commission,
discussion and concerns.
Board Chairman, I just want to bring you up to date.
I was, I'm on the RP committee if you want,
with a climate action plan.
I volunteered for just a little quick update.
I was given a flash drive this past weekend.
Go over the companies that are, have submitted, you know,
the bids to, to help the city with their carbon footprint.
I'm in the process of going through it.
Uh, uh, meeting has not been planned yet,
but the such, you know, I am going through this flash drive
with all the different details
and when I, I can get more inform
when I go through it thoroughly.
I will give a more, uh, better report
maybe at our next meeting
or next meeting after how long it takes.
'cause there's like seven different companies that gave
detailed bids that saying, well, how they would improve,
do work with the city
and the cost to the city, uh, as far as how
to improve our carbon footprint and,
and improve the, our, what we could do
to improve the climate in the city of Warren.
Very good sir. Thank you.
We're looking forward to just let you know I
haven't dropped the ball or anything on it.
No, you're fine. You're fine. Okay.
That's what the planning commission
discussion's about and concerns.
Thank you. You hit it right in the ballpark.
Anybody else have anything?
I'd like to, like to take a minute to thank Attorney
Sullivan for joining us this evening.
Thank and uh,
'cause it's an honor to have an attorney on our board
and sometimes we don't recognize him,
so I wanted to do that.
Item AM number 13, counter pending matters.
Seeing none at this time. Item number 14, adjournment.
Need a motion to adjourn? Motion to adjourn. Mr. Chairman.
Guess the by support.
Maury has a motion by Commissioner Zay, supported by Maury.
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Thank you.
Have a good evening everyone. Thank you. Thank
You sir.