Oh, that's right.
We still gamble this. Mm-hmm.
That works. Clean call
Order.
It is nine. Uh, sorry.
It's 9 0 9. Uh, roll Cost. Secretary Moore.
Um, vice President McGee. Here. Councilman Dwyer? Here.
Councilman Bokey. Present. Councilman Nunan.
He just left. Okay. Councilman Lafferty here.
Uh, Councilwoman Morris. Present motion to excuse.
Um, Councilwoman Rogan. C.
Support, support. All in favor? All in favor? Aye.
Aye. Okay. Adoption of the
Agenda. Next item.
Adoption of the agenda. So moved. Support.
All in favor? Aye. Aye.
Mary? No. Okay.
Next item is five R four.
Consideration and adoption of a resolution approving the
defense initiative in our local agreement.
So moved. Support
Dwyer.
All in favor? No. Any discussion? Discussion? No.
Okay. Roll call. Roll call.
Uh, council. Council. Councilman Lty? No. Moore.
Moore. Council. Councilwoman Moore. Secretary Moore.
Dwyer D Dwyer. Okay. Okay. Councilman Dwyer? Yes.
Councilman Bokey? Yes. Councilman Nun? Yes.
And Secretary Councilman Lafferty Lafferty?
Yes. And Madam Secretary? Yes. You
Vote. You vote
And you vote. Vice President.
Melody Councilman Melanie? Yes. Yes.
Okay. Okay.
Next item five, consideration of council appointment
to the Defense Initiative Advisory Executive Committee.
So moved with discussion support
Lafferty with discussion.
Um, mad chair. Yes. Um, thank you.
Um, I, at this time, I would like to suggest
that we appoint Patrick Green, um, as our appointment
to the advisory committee or the, the executive committee.
Um, as you all know, um, uh,
pat has extensive experience in Warren.
He, um, you know, he's lived here his whole life.
Um, he has been a state rep, a council person, a ZBA member,
a board member to the YMCA, et cetera, et cetera.
Um, he, um, um, is not an elected official.
We cannot appoint anybody that's elected to this position.
Um, he knows and has relationships
with the people in Sterling Heights
as well and throughout the county.
And I think he would be an excellent representative, um,
on this advisory commission.
So that would be my motion is to appoint Patrick Green,
Madam President, vice President Council.
No. Uh, so I don't actually know
what are the best qualifications for this position.
I'm, I'm pretty sure that Patrick Green would be a fine
representative, but we haven't really considered anybody
else as far as I know.
Um, this is a, uh, defense in initiative,
the interlocal agreement.
And it seems like maybe, uh, I, someone with, um,
actual experience in the military,
a military career might be good.
Um, or maybe not.
But anyways, I, I would like to, um, table this
for further consideration
Now. Chair. Yes.
Um, I don't think
that there's any military experience required.
Um, this advisory board, they're hiring people that
are going to interact with the defense industry.
So that's what they, I believe
that the representative from Sterling Heights is going
to be, um, probably the city manager.
And I don't think he has any, uh, experience in the,
um, defense industry.
Um, I don't think that's a requisite at all.
Well, um, I I, I'm thinking that, um,
with $250,000 of city money going to this
every year, as I understand it, that it's important that we
due due diligence, due diligence on this. Yeah.
I agree. Mm-hmm. So, I would like
to have further consideration, um, to the matter.
And maybe every,
every box is every checkbox for someone who we would want
to have for this would be fulfilled with Pac Green.
Or maybe there's someone who would actually be
a lot better for some reason.
I actually don't know,
because I don't think there's been any consideration hardly
than, you know, that I know of.
Um, I, over who,
who other candidates there might be That would be good.
Uh, or did Pat Green come up with this whole thing
and it's his baby
and we know that he's gonna be, um, amazing on it?
I don't, there's so many things I don't know about it.
Yeah. Manager Chair, Madam Chair. Oh, okay. Go ahead, Mr.
Madam Chair. Uh, yes. Thank Council. Councilman Labate.
I, I think, uh, Patrick Green would be a fine person
for this, for this role.
This is, and this is not being introduced today
as, as the appointment.
This has been known since.
Uh, both, uh, uh, council
members from Sterling Heights
and Warren, uh, joined together in their separate sessions,
in their working sessions,
and talked over the, uh, nuances
of the interlocal agreement
and that an appointment would be made, uh, by, you know,
the structure of the advisory committee would be.
So we were, you know, given notice, we knew
that we had to come up with someone.
Uh, Patrick is, uh, well suited for this.
He knows Warren, uh, the, the history
of his family in the city, his representation,
not only in the State House, uh, but on City Council.
His experience with finances
and his connections throughout the state
and the region, um, make him an excellent choice
for this position.
And I'm looking at this as more of a business decision.
This is not a political appointment.
Uh, this is not a military appointment.
Uh, this is an advisory council that is going
to select an executive director,
and they are going to manage, uh, as a fiduciary, uh,
this initiative on, on behalf of both, both municipalities
and I can't think of anybody more,
more well suited for this position.
Mad chair. Thank you, Madam Chair. Joe.
Um, since we knew we had a point, I've been looking
for somebody, though, since that time
and thinking of who would be good for that.
I did approach Mr. Green
and he said he would be very interested in it.
Um, you know, aside from the things we all know, um,
Mr. Green has, um, run businesses and, um, managed people
and made, you know, he's big decisions on
big contracts and things like that.
And he's got the demeanor.
He's somebody that could go
and represent us, somebody that we don't have to bring up
to speed on how to act
and what, what, what the rules are, um,
in serving on things like this.
And, and I, I just can't think
of anybody better, quite honestly.
I think we could look for a year
and not find anybody better.
Well done. Yes. Thank you.
Yes. Um, madam, uh, Mr. Mr. Chair.
Um, so, uh, things that I'm curious about,
uh, are I would like everyone on the council to know
we are sending a representative as I understand it,
and then the, uh, mayor would also send an, um,
a representative who, who all is, uh,
sending representatives.
May I answer? Yes. Um, the mayor
of sends a representative.
The council sends a representative, the City
of Sterling Heights sends two representatives,
and then together there, there is, um, um, a neutral
person chosen between both cities so
that there will be five members.
Okay. Thank you. Pardon me. Right.
There's, there's four members,
and then between them, they choose the neutral.
Okay. Um, if I may, yes.
Um, so I'm curious as to do these people get paid?
They don't get paid. Okay. Okay. That's, that's good. Um,
It's in the, everything's in the
agreement explains their duties.
Okay. I, I just,
I just found the agreement in my email this morning,
or this, this document.
Anyways, it's the proposed resolution authorizing defense
initiative in our local agreement, city of Sterling Heights
and City of Warren, dated April 15th. This was just
A final that was sent over with the resolution,
but everybody's had it for months,
I think. So, uh, unfortunately
or fortunately, whatever.
I wasn't, um, really involved in, in negotiating this.
I, I went to an ex, uh, explanatory, uh, meeting.
And, um, so I'm not really any kind
of expert at all on this.
I'd like to know more. I, it seems like a pretty good idea
at $250,000 a year.
I'm curious as to what this would be expected to accomplish.
Um, what would the, our representative do for us?
Uh, I think that person would report back to us about
Madam Chair. They,
there's, there's,
there's reporting agreements. Are you, sorry? Are you
Well, yeah, I'm, I'm asking, I'm asking the questions
that are on my mind before I want to vote on this.
Yes. Okay. Yes. Because this is a discussion period,
and everyone should have a chance to do that.
As far as I know. Yes.
If I'm out of order, please let me know. Chair. Oh, no,
You may continue. Okay.
Continue. Point, point of order.
Uh, so we, we already approved the inter you're speaking
to the interlocal agreement.
The, the questions that you're bringing up are now about the
interlocal agreement that we already passed.
We just voted on that. But the, to, to your question, well,
I, I wanna know why, you know, relative to that,
what would this person do for us?
And what would they report back to us?
Uh, would, we would have no further involvement in it.
Um, I don't know. Would this,
if this person was doing a bad job,
would we be able to remove 'em?
Things like that. I don't know. Thank you.
You, Uh, so the, the advisory committee
is responsible for retention of defense
and aerospace companies.
They are also looking at attracting new defense contracts,
aerospace, uh, contractors, manufacturers to the region,
especially along the mound and Van D**e corridor.
That, that is the, the whole purpose.
And then our representative works on the,
on behalf of the City of Warren
and represents our seats at the table.
Madam Chair? Uh, I'm done.
Just to clarify, the four, the, the,
the neutral person is decided
between the Warren City Council
and the Sterling Heights Council, not the advisory board.
So we choose, um, and just let, let me finish on Sure.
Go ahead. There are provisions in here where, there,
there each, there's a reporting back mechanism
built into the agreement.
The, the actual advisory board is not gonna do the work.
They are overseeing the people put in place to do the work.
As I understand it, Ms.
Michaels can explain it, Ms. Michaels,
And just for clarification, the fifth member would be,
would be selected by the two,
by the four other advisory board
members. But for council's,
The agreement doesn't say that Mary
Did don change that. It,
it says Warren City Council.
And Sterling Heights City Council shall,
shall jointly approve one at large member to serve
as the fifth member of the advisory Executive committee.
Okay. Sterling must have changed that back. Okay.
We were going to have to avoid delay.
We were going to have the four members select
the fifth, but it's okay. And
I know we wanna do this in a hurry.
That's why we didn't do it that way. Right.
That's why I put the appointment on the agenda today.
Hopefully the mayors will be today as well.
She'll make her appointment.
Um, 'cause I know we wanna get rolling quickly on
this. Okay. So,
Um, if I may just, the germane position,
counsel is the director,
and the director will be, I can't hear you, sir.
The most pivotal character,
pivotal actor in this process is the director.
And the director will be subject
to the approval of this council.
Specifications will be developed,
and the council will be involved in the development
of the specifications.
So it's the director that will have
the most driving influence over
how this program is develop, develops.
Madam Chair, if I may? Yes. So, um, okay.
So the first four are, are selected by the various people
that they're supposed to be selected by.
And then those people will select who will be the director
of this group,
which will basically be a business development,
um, activity.
Correct. But actually the director is approved
by the Warren City Council
and the Sterling City Council. Okay.
Oh, okay. But there's selected by the, the,
the first four, right?
The, the director would be,
No, no, the director is actually approved by this council.
Well, we'll, and that's a very important position.
Well, we'll be approved by the councils.
Yes. You'll, you'll be looking to the director
to make sure that the goals are achieved.
So did I hear you say that the four will
select the person who would be nominated
for director and then we would approve?
Yes. They're a recommending body. Yeah. They'll recommend.
Okay. But this body approves.
Mm-hmm. Okay. So Patrick Green knows, uh,
pretty much everybody in, in, uh, in the, uh,
uh, realm of, uh, all the actors
who will be selecting these representatives.
And probably most of the representatives themselves,
Patrick Greenwood, you, that's out of your field
of, uh, expertise. Right. He's
Very well experienced, Whatever.
Okay, great. Whatever. Okay. So, uh, I'll yield on that.
Um, I wanted to make sure that
everybody on the council was up to date as to where we were
so far, including myself.
And I'm not quite sure. I'm all the way up to date.
I'd still like to, if I, I, I guess there's some urgency.
We're having a press conference this afternoon.
One thing, do we have to have our person selected today?
What, what, what's the harm if we wait, hold off
or like a week or something.
Madam Chair, I'm, I'm just tr trying to move things along.
Right. Um, we've had months to think about this. Right.
And, you know, I think Ev except Ms. McGee didn't have the
opportunity to be involved in the agreement
and have a copy of the agreement, or I think you got a copy,
but I just, there were, I just, we, we set up meetings
with Sterling Heights and Warren, um, uh, joint meetings.
We can only have three at a time. We had two meetings.
Right. Ms. McGee hit the button last, so she was excluded.
But everybody knew what the,
that we were gonna have the appointments.
I think I've been right.
So Yeah,
You let me know that you were even thinking of,
uh, Mr. Green.
Green. Yeah. I mean, I, I was welcome.
Anybody that had,
everybody I've talked to, I said, is there anybody else?
You know? And nobody said any, anything
that they had another idea.
So, Uhhuh, but
Adam Chair I'd like to address Councilman Miller is Sure.
Done. Um, I attended one of the, the
workshop meetings and, um, a lot of the questions,
good questions that Councilman asked here were discussed
during those meetings, the procedural stuff.
And, um, that's for them to discuss and set up.
As far as I'm concerned, as far as, uh,
Mr. Green, he's qualified.
He was a council president.
Uh, he, he's got the contacts, he knows the people.
And I think we should move on with it right now
and why delay it.
And, um, um, you know, we're, we're,
we're, we're meeting with Sterling Heights.
Everything is good. And, uh, we have Ms.
Michaels and the city attorney from,
uh, Sterling Heights involved.
So everybody's rights are protected already.
And the procedure that they initiate,
if I heard right, may be, uh, tweaked later down the line,
and we'll be notified of that.
And that's all we want.
It's an advisory position
to tell us what's going on. And I'll
Yield Back, Madam Chair.
And, and just to quell any, um, uh, worries about, um,
um, Mr. Green, um, being able to work
with the administration, the Warren Administration, um,
when Mayor Stone took over, um, Mr. Green came
to Mayor Stone offered his assistance in any way he could
help her to be successful.
Um, he wants nothing more than he's,
his whole life has been in Warren.
He grew up here. He wants nothing more than
what's the best for Warren.
He's not running for office.
Um, and so that's, I'd probably said enough.
I, I'm happy to vote at this point.
Mm-hmm. Okay.
I'll support, uh, sec. Secretary Moore's motion.
Okay. Support. Do we need to vote?
Do we already have We already has board by
Lty. Yeah. We already had
Morris Lafferty.
So do we need to call? Yep. Order. Order Moore first.
Okay. Council, um, secretary Moore? Yes.
Uh, council Councilwoman Lty. Councilman Laverty?
Yes. Councilman, um, Dwyer? Yes.
Councilman Gary Orke? Yes. And councilman? Um, Nunan.
I like Patrick Green. Fine, but I'm gonna say no on this
because I think we should be doing more
consideration. Okay. Okay.
McGee and Councilman McGee? I'm gonna say yes.
Move forward. Thank you. And then what was McGee's role?
Yes.
Next item is audience participation.
No, no forms were
Turned. No participation.
No.
Next item is adjournment. So moved.
Support. All in favor? All in favor. Aye. Aye. Aye.
Okay.