Okay, I like to call to order a regular meeting at the
zoning Board of appeals for Wednesday, October 8th
at 7:30 PM in the Warren Community Center.
All rise for the Pledge of Allegiance,
Pledge Allegiance To the flag
of the United States of America,
and to the Republic for which it stands.
One Nation under God, indivisible,
with liberty and justice for all.
Roll. Roll call.
Uh, Mr. Green Present. Mr. Perry? Present. Mr. Lindsey?
Present. Mr. Clifft Present. Mr. Watts? Here.
Mr. Assessor Present. Uh, Mr. Aya is absent.
Mr. Jersey's present. Chairman Stevi.
Present. I'd like to make a motion, Mr.
Chair, to excuse Mr. Aya. Support.
Support. We have a motion by Mr. Jersey. Support by Mr.
Cliff to excuse Mr. SoFi. All in favor? Aye. Aye.
Anybody opposed?
I don't think so. This is to adoption of the agenda.
Um, Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion to, um,
move item seven.
Um, the item regarding 2 1 3 1 1 gross spec
to the November 12th meeting and keep the rest as written.
Support Mr. Assessor. Okay, we have motion by Mr.
Jersey, support by Mr.
Assessor to approve, uh, to move item seven
to the November meeting and approve the rest of the agenda.
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Anybody opposed?
Agenda is approved basis to approval of the minutes
of the regular meetings of, uh, August 13th.
Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion
to approve the regular meeting minutes of August 13th, 2025,
and also, um, postpone,
Um, Postpone the approval of the minutes
for August 27th, 2025, meeting September 10th, 2025,
meeting, and September 24th, 2025, meeting
to the November 12th meeting. Support.
Okay, we have a motion by Mr. Jersey.
Support by Mr. Lindsay. All in favor? Aye. Aye.
Is anybody opposed? Okay.
Minutes of August 13th were approved.
The others were moved to November. Thanks.
This item number six.
Item six. Applicant Kassim Zaher,
representative Kassim Zaher.
Common description, 1 1 4 1 5.
Irene Variances requested permission
to retain widened portion of concrete driveway
and front setback, six feet, two inches from the east corner
of garage towards the East property line.
And if you could start by stating your name
and address for the record,
and then take us into your request.
There you go. Uh, good evening.
My name is John Harrington.
I'm an attorney representing the applicant. Zahar.
Um, the property in question is, of course,
is 1 1 4 1 5 Irene in Warren.
Um, this is the second
time we've been in front of you folks.
We're here back in February.
Uh, just to, to summarize, there was an ex a request by Mr.
Zahar to approve the extension of the driveway at his home,
an extra six feet, uh, in two inches to the, I think it's
to the east of his home.
Um, and as we presented last time we were here,
the existing driveway, uh,
his family's experience is just simply too narrow, uh,
for two cars and ended up usually parking on the grass,
which has caused damage to the grass.
Um, and also with this expanding family
with children driving cars, it certainly,
with additional cars in the household,
it's made it more difficult.
Uh, it was compounded by the fact that a few years ago
that the street of Irene in front of his home was made
narrow by several feet.
Um, and when they parked in the car, they've had a number of
incidents over the years where the cars have been, uh,
struck and caused damage by passing vehicles.
Uh, we've also, as presented as we did last time,
is a statement from the neighbor immediately to the East,
the one who's most directly impacted
by this driveway expansion that's being Mr. William Marley,
uh, who indicated he has certainly no objection
to this expansion of the driveway.
We have subsequently added the, um, the neighbor
to the other side to the west.
And Mr. Um, Myron Beck, who, uh,
who resides at 1 1 4 0 Irene, Mr.
Marley, resides at, uh, 1 1 4 2 7 Irene.
But Mr. Beck himself also has indicated he has no objection
to the expansion of the driveway.
Um, I understand both gentlemen, uh,
worked like the afternoon shifts
and weren't able to be here,
although they had indicated that they could,
they would be here to support this.
Um, and last time, as you recall, we were here, uh,
there was a vote that was four to four, uh,
thus not an approval of this expansion
of driveway, uh, at that time.
Um, subsequently went to court and the judge reversed that
and sent us back here, or remanded us
back in front of you folks.
But last time we were here, there were some kind
of subjective commentary made of the by supposed,
uh, you know, the neighbors.
I think one was identified by name.
Another was anonymous, claiming that my client was, uh,
operating a used car lot at his house.
And that's why they wanted, that's why they oppose the, um,
the expansion of the driveway.
Uh, we vigorously objected to that,
and I think that was kind of the hearsay nature of
that comments was part of the ruling by Judge Gadi
that sent us back here.
But at the same time, um, there, there simply is no truth to
that statement, to, to that representation
as we said last time.
But even more, I guess more significantly now,
we're re reiterating the fact that there is no,
our client did not engage in selling used cars as a, uh,
anymore so than anybody else may have sold every once in a
while, a family vehicle when it was being replaced.
But he's not in the business of selling used cars.
Certainly he's not a used car lot
that he's operating at his house.
Um, and we were here last time going through some of the,
the, um,
the minutes from last time we were here back in Fairway
the 12th, I believe it was.
There was comments made by the, uh, by you folks, uh,
by the members of ZBA that, um,
expanding the driveway showed indifference to the neighbors,
and that it was a detriment to the area.
And I think the con the, the, the foundation for those types
of comments was on the belief that my client was
conducting a business
or operating used car ladders house,
which was simply not true.
Um, and so in light of that reflects, uh, in light
of that fact, that's not true at all.
And this was a situation where I think
as we represented last time, my client had, you know,
been in contact with a number
of reputable cement contractors who advised 'em that, um,
you know, with the cost, would it be to,
to put in the new driveway
or expand in the driveway, which he did a cost of $3,300.
Um, but at the same time, none of 'em ever represented
to him that it was necessary to,
to get approval from the city before he would do that.
So, um, and,
and he certainly learned a lesson in that respect that,
you know, that should have been done, which is when
that was pointed out to him, I was hired
and we went through this process here.
So, um, this is a very simple, straightforward matter.
Um, and it's been that
situation since September of last year.
So for 13 months now that's been in that situation.
Um, and we had ask the, uh, you folks to approve this, uh,
expand to the driveway.
Uh, I know Mr. Zaher is here in the audience if you'd like
to question him at all.
But, um, I, again, this is,
I would imagine all the situations you have in front
of you is probably one of the simplest, is more
or more, more straightforward.
So, uh, we'd ask respectfully, you approve this request
for extension of the driveway. Thank you.
Okay. Thank you for your explanation.
Uh, this is a public hearing.
Is there anyone the audience wishing to speak on this item?
If so, okay.
Not seeing anybody in the audience
or close the public portion of the meeting
and turn it over to the board for questions and discussion.
Mr. Chair? Yes, Mr. Jersey?
Just real quick, I wanted to express
To, to Mr. Harrington,
we did receive the supplemental info, um,
and the attached pictures via email.
So, uh, thank you from, uh, Mr. Beck.
So just wanted to share that with you.
Um, yeah, I guess I'll, I'll lead off with, um, you know,
my, my opinion with this wasn't, um, necessarily the fact
that he was running a, a used car lot off his property
because that's insane, given the size of the property,
I mean, his driveway and everything.
Um, so I, me personally, I, I didn't believe
that assumption, um, my no vote was driven based off of,
um, o other factors
and, you know, going on in the city on top of the fact that,
um, I just didn't see it as a necessary, um, item.
Um, to me personally, he's got two car garage,
you got two wide driveway.
Um, yeah, that street is busy.
It, it's, it's packed with cars.
Um, it might even be, may,
maybe even mar maybe was narrowed, you know,
with the engineering repave of it, you know, um,
I wish there was like some information from engineering to,
to, you know, express that, you know,
or show that that actually happened.
Um, but other than that, I could
just kinda count that as hearsay.
Um, but to me, um, I think he actually has plenty of room.
But in addition to that, there's plenty
of other situations across the city
where you have a little cutout.
Um, but, you know, the little cutouts are getting to be
a lot bigger in nature and,
and on some properties, um, do I feel it's necess, you know,
some, some, some instances I feel like it is necessary if
you live on Stevens
or you live on some other main, main road
where you have a little bit higher, higher volume of traffic
and speed, um, maybe you did do need that extra cutout,
um, in your driveway.
So, um, you do see it across, across the city.
I I do know it's something that they're clamping down on,
you know, across the city.
So, um, so that's where, where my no,
my no vote basically was driven based off the fact,
I didn't think it was necessary, ma, mainly,
I didn't think it was necessary for that property.
So with that, I'll yield the floor.
Mr. Chair? Yes. Yes, Mr. Ros.
Um, I wasn't here
for the first hearing on this, so when I received it
this time, as usual, I like to do my homework.
First question I have,
did we re-notice the neighbors on this?
Okay, thank you. Um, so I took a drive over
and I took a look at it,
and our ordinance in the city is very, very clear.
The driveway is from one edge of the garage
to the other edge of the garage period.
And I don't know how hard, I don't know why
that's so hard to understand.
I have the same two car garage at my house.
I have a big truck and a, and a car,
and I get both of 'em in there with no problems.
Well, my son comes over with a big truck, he could park next
to my big truck, and there's still room
to walk, walk down both sides.
So saying there's not enough room for two cars,
I'm not buying it at all.
Um, the other thing is a street is the same
as every other street in the city I've never seen.
And I'm a lifelong resident of the city,
and I've seen a lot of repaving, a lot of sewer work done,
and I've never seen a street narrowed.
I drove down there the other day.
That street is the same as every other street.
I don't buy that either. Um,
I, I, and I get it, I had two kids
and sometimes we had three cars, four cars and five cars.
But we were able to manage,
you have to do what you have to do.
And cementing your front yard
is not an answer to the problem.
It definitely devalues properties.
And if you give people a foot over what the ordinance says,
the next guy's gonna want two foot.
The next next one's gonna want three foot.
It's like everything else. Um, I don't see
where there's any, um, expectation
to allow this,
because like I say, the ordinance is clear.
The street was not narrowed.
Uh, there's plenty of room for two cars in a driveway if you
use the garage, there's room for four cars.
So, um,
I'm definitely gonna be a no vote on this.
And, um, that's all I have. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Broad. Yes, Mr. Lindsey.
Um, so I, I remember this, uh, from the last time
that the petitioner was here, um, so much to Mr.
Jersey's point. Uh, you know,
I was a no vote on this last time, uh,
that we saw this request.
Um, but it really had nothing to do, uh,
with any used car lot.
Again, I, I don't know why that was made such a big deal.
Um, but my, my no vote, uh, I just looked at at the minutes,
um, was specifically due, um,
to not having an unreasonable impact
or burden to, to maintain compliance
with the, the ordinance.
Uh, and I think that not, uh, you know, echoes, uh, Mr.
Watts's comments. Um, you know, so I I've mentioned
to the board before, you know, our directions, um, state
that we should not be granting any variance, uh,
to the ordinance, um,
unless the, the board finds
that the applicant has demonstrated all
of the following criteria.
Um, so when we're, uh, proposed a variance, we are
to consider if there's an unreasonable impact
or burden to maintain compliance, uh, with the ordinance.
Um, that the variance cannot be self-imposed.
There must be a demonstration of the property being unique.
Um, there can't be a detriment to the area.
Um, the variance requested must not be personal or economic,
and it must be necessary.
Um, so in order for us to really be granting a variance,
the petitioner should be, uh, meeting all of these criteria.
So when I, I hear Mr.
Harrington's comments, um, I don't see, uh, any of these,
quite frankly, uh, being met, let alone all of them.
Um, to Mr. Watts's comments.
I agree, you already have a, a two car garage.
Um, I see in the pictures
provided with the packet, um, that your representative had
two cars parked in the garage, two par two cars parked, um,
in the driveway at the same time.
So there's four cars parked on the property.
Um, and then there also seems to be from the pictures
provided that there's plenty of street parking available
to park cars there as well.
So I don't see any reason why, um, there, there's a burden
to the petitioner, uh, to have, you know, compliance
to this, uh, ordinance that we have.
Um, it's definitely self-imposed.
Um, you know, we know that the petitioner did not seek
to get a permit before doing this.
Um, so that should not be a reason
why we are granting a variance.
Uh, there's definitely nothing unique about the property.
Um, I have a a one car, uh, driveway, um,
and I don't have any reason, uh,
to extend my driveway, uh, in its width.
Um, it is a detriment.
Um, you know, we have an ordinance that
is there for a reason.
Um, if we allowed this to everybody, uh,
the city would quickly fall apart, in my opinion.
Um, this is personal.
Uh, it doesn't seem to be any reason, um, outside even
for family reasons to be allowing this.
Um, and it's certainly not necessary.
Um, you know, the, the petitioner said
that it's been this way for 13 months,
but I would say that it's been 13 months
of being non-compliant.
Um, so I'm gonna be a no vote. I don't think that, uh, Mr.
Herrington, that you have demonstrated, um,
the requirements needed to, uh, for us
to grant you variance.
Thank you,
Mr. Chair. Yes, Mr. Green.
So I wasn't on the board when this
came up the first time either.
So I'm looking at it kind of pure when I drove by.
It appears that the driveway goes directly
to the property line, and that was one of my problems.
And the driveway appears to be a standard driveway,
like all the driveways in the city of Warren.
And, uh, street parking is pretty
normal in the city of Warren.
And like Mr. Lindsey, I don't think that it meets any
of the criteria to give a variance.
There's no unreasonable burden
because he can still use the property as his per,
as his, uh, zone.
So it's, it's self-imposed
because in reality, the problem is you wanna park a lot
of cars there, which is a problem
for a lot of people in the city.
Warren. It has nothing to do
with the size and shape of the lot.
The property is definitely not unique.
I mean, there's a million of 'em
and Warren like that to allow,
it would result in a detriment to the next door neighbor.
So, and I wanna be clear on that
because even if the neighbors sign documents
that said they don't have a problem with them, this goes
with the property forever.
So the next neighbor who buys
that house next door might have a problem with it.
So, and the property's obviously not unique
'cause City Warren's pretty non-unique in the,
in this architecture,
and it's not necessary to enjoy the property similar
to properties around him.
So it doesn't meet any of the criteria.
So I'm just reiterating what everyone else said.
And my vote would be no, too.
Okay. Thank you, Mr. Green.
I, I just wanted to add, um, a comment.
I mean, this property is totally not unique.
I mean, I think that my family at our house in Warren,
we have a two car garage, two car driveway.
We have four vehicles.
We managed to park only one in the garage.
'cause we have to store our, you know,
lawnmower and all that other stuff.
But we still manage to park two on the driveway,
one on the street in front of the house.
It's like, and if a person has more than four cars,
let's say you have a larger family, there are still ways
of parking on to have those cars.
I, so I have a hard time seeing where this
property is unique compared to any others in the city.
Um, and I do feel that it becomes a detriment
to the neighborhood because, you know, if
once one house starts doing this kind
of thing within a neighborhood, then the second, and so,
and then this, we start having streets
that are gonna have more paving than grass.
So I do feel it would be a detriment to the neighborhood.
So those are my comments.
Do you have any other questions
or discussion from the board or any motions? I,
Mr. Yes, Mr.
Ruts? I did have one more question.
I noticed that he widened between the curb
and the sidewalk, the approach,
and I guess I would have a question
to Mr. Murphy about that.
Is that even allowed?
Um, Everett Murphy, Chief zoning Inspector, city
of Warren, um, engineering has jurisdiction over
the area between the sidewalk and the curb at the street.
That would require a permit from engineering to do that.
So, so it would only be allowed if engineering said
it was okay to do that.
Okay. Thank you,
Mr. Chair. Yes,
Mr. Lindsay, If there's no
other comments, I'd like to make a motion.
Um, I wanna make a motion to, uh, deny the petitioner, uh,
the permission to retain the widen portion
of concrete driveway in front setback six feet,
two inches from the east corner
of garage towards the east property line.
Uh, due to the fact, um, that there's no unreasonable impact
or burden, it's self-imposed.
Uh, the property's not unique.
Uh, it is a detriment to the neighborhood, it's personal
and it's not necessary.
Support. Support.
Okay, we have a motion by Mr. Lindsay.
Support by Mr. Perry to deny the petitioner's request
for the reasons stated in the motion. Uh, roll call.
Mr. Lindsay. Yes.
For the reasons stated in the motion. Mr. Perry?
Yes. For the reason stated in the motion. Mr. Watts? Yes.
For the reasons stated the motion. Mr. Green? Yes.
For the reasons stated In the motion. Mr. Cliff? Yes.
To deny for the reasons stated in the motion. Mr. Assessor?
Yes. For the reasons stated in the motion.
Mr. Jersey votes Yes.
For the reasons stated in the motion. Chairman Stevi,
I vote yes to deny for the reason stated motion.
Uh, the request has been denied by the
Board. Thank you for your
time.
Takes us to item eight, applicant Wade McGee.
Representative Dylan Ferguson.
Common description, 2 1 6 2 Otter variances.
Requested permission two one.
Allow a 14 foot by 20 foot 280 square foot shed.
Two to allow a total of 900 square feet
of accessory floor accessory structure, floor area,
which includes the 400 floor square foot attached garage,
180 square foot covered rear patio,
and the 280 square foot proposed shed.
Uh, good evening, everybody. Um, can I speak?
Uh, yes. If you could just start
with your name and then address. My
Name is Dylan Ferguson.
I am on behalf of, uh, rufuss Wade McGee. Um,
And your address? Address,
I'm sorry. Oh, address.
Address. 2 1 6 2 Otter Warren, Michigan. Okay.
Um, the, the reason why we're requesting this,
and this all started
because, uh, uh, the previous contractor,
when they poured the slab, can you speak
Into the Mic? Sorry. There
you go. Sorry.
Um, the previous contractor who poured the slab in 77 or
whenever, um, only poured two inches of concrete.
And, uh, it just was busting up over the years.
And, uh, Mr. Wade McGee is, um, 89 years old
and he kept on taking tumbles
and whoever put the garage up just
did a really p**s port job.
So, um, my little brother lives two doors down.
I'm there all the time, fixing up his property for him.
Um, and he does all his own maintenance on his property.
He has a two car garage and he has two cars in it,
but he, uh, because it's an acre of property with a, uh,
Olympic pool in the back, um, you have
to store everything in the shed.
I wouldn't call it a garage, it's a shed.
Um, but it was falling down.
So, uh, he wanted to get the concrete done
so he wasn't falling anymore.
And then, uh, obviously the shed needed to be replaced
so he could store, store all the, um, he's had,
he has his riding lawnmower with a bagger,
all the pool stuff.
And, um, you know, the cover for the pool, the salts
and everything that go along with it,
and all of his lawn tools.
'cause he can't afford a landscaping company.
Uh, even though my brother owns a
landscaping company, two doors down.
But, um, uh, the original, um, shed
that was up there was 20 by 25.
And, uh, we were, we,
we had a long conversation reduced everything down.
So, um, we could pack everything in that shed.
But that is, you know, I mean,
he doesn't have anywhere to put the stuff outside.
His garage is,
if you wanna call it a two car garage, it's a joke.
Um, it's a beautiful home.
Um, we put in a six, six inch pad with a rat wall.
Made it beautiful. I mean, it, it's gonna last forever.
Every one of his neighbors thinks it looks great, you know?
Um, I, I know that, um,
uh, just because there was a bigger one there,
making it smaller doesn't necessarily fit zoning.
But this isn't a want, it's a need.
He doesn't have anywhere to put any of the stuff
that he's had since 1977 and he's 89 years old.
You know, he is gotta put a lawnmower somewhere.
You just can't park it out in the backyard.
You guys will ticket the hell out of him.
Um, uh, going along with his pool maintenance stuff,
you know, there's just, I mean, as it stands right now,
we were gonna try to get an 18 by 22,
but I talked him down to a 16 by 20.
But it's gonna be literally like playing Jenga in there,
packing the sardines, you know?
And we're gonna make a beautiful
shed that's gonna last forever.
You know, we're not gonna do 24 on center,
it's gonna be 16 on center, you know, with a seven 12 pitch.
You know, it's not gonna have any problems with snow.
The concrete's gonna last forever,
and its sun's gonna take the house over.
So, I mean, um,
and the original plans were where the, uh,
pad was originally, but we pushed the pad behind the house.
You can't see the pad from the street
or from the other side of the house.
All the neighbors, we've talked to him, they said
that absolutely, you know, they're all on board.
Mr. McGee is a hell of a guy.
You know, he really takes care of his property.
If you drove by his house, which I'm sure a lot of you have,
you understand how beautiful his house is.
And, uh, we just replaced all the concrete in front too.
You know, this is not gonna be a blight.
It's, it's gonna be beautiful
and it's gonna serve his needs, not his wants.
And, uh, hopefully you guys approve it.
Okay? Thank you for that information.
Uh, this is a public hearing.
Is there anyone in the audience
wishing to speak on this item?
Okay. Not seeing any
or close the public portion of the meeting.
Turn it over to a board for discussion. Mr.
Chair? Yes, Mr. Green.
So I give this a lot of thought.
You have, it is a beautiful house and
A nice, oh, you should see the inside. It is stellar
And a nice piece of property.
And when I, when I thought about it, the first thing
that came to mind was, so we have this ordinance
that says 10 by 12.
And I look at your property
and it just doesn't seem fair
that if you had this huge amount of property,
that it, it doesn't seem like the standard
10 by 12 would fit.
So that was the first thing I, I came
to when I was thinking about that this shed might not be too
big and it might meet your needs.
But then as I looked at it more, I, I got one more,
I got a couple more questions.
So this shed that's on the West property line here,
Uh, well, it's, um, it's sort of like directly
behind the house right now.
When we moved the pad, the original shed was to the west.
It was like directly behind the driveway.
So this picture that we have is
that shed still there on the west?
It's on the west property line.
I, I don't have that picture, But
it's on the west property line,
right? On the west property
Lane? No, it's not there
anymore. That shed is gone.
That shed's gone. Yeah, it's gone.
That thing was a, a, a death trap.
So is that the one you built in 77?
Did I build it in 77 or Somebody built it in
77. 77? Yeah,
somebody built that.
Okay, that's interesting. 'cause it was denied in 77,
but that's neither here nor there.
Well, that's what my understanding is,
you know, garage was
Denied. Okay. That's
what I'm trying to figure out.
So what was denied garage in in 77?
The garage, not the shed. No. Okay.
So that answers, that questions stop answering my questions.
So this bigger shed is gonna go right behind the pool.
It's smaller than the existing shed was.
This is a confusing one.
There's so many sheds go. Yeah. So
It's a line, it's like almost a hundred feet square,
feet smaller, and it's four feet tall.
Uh, shorter. 'cause it was 16 feet tall.
Now it's only 12 to the peak.
And, uh, we're gonna shingle match exactly
to what's existing on the home.
So it's gonna, it's gonna be beautiful, guys.
So I I have no problem with it.
Again, I, I remind people, like,
I reminded on the last item, even though neighbors agree,
it's, it's, there'll be new neighbors 20 years from now.
So you have, you have to give us, you know, you have to give
that to us when we make these decisions that we, we have
to decide based on, on not the existing neighbors, but I
and I, it's great that they agree
and I think that's, I think that's gonna help you.
But I guess my point is more of a general point that people
Need to under Yeah, they're not selling the house.
A house is already given to the son. No,
I I'm talking about n when you say, when people come up
and say the neighbors are good with this, that's great.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Absolutely. Yeah, I agree with you.
Then, then you get, you know,
the next neighbor might not be.
So, but that's just a point of information for everybody,
for the three people that might be watching this.
That, that makes complete sense. I understand.
So anyways, so I, I have, I,
I don't have a problem with this
Mr. Chair, Mr. Chair.
Um, Mr. Lindsay? The Mr. Jersey?
Yeah, I just, uh, I have a quick question.
Um, Mr. Ferguson, so really I have no issue
with, with your requests at all.
I think it's a beautiful property.
I think that there's plenty of room for the shed.
So I have no issue. But I did wanna clarify.
So your, your packet says 14 by 20.
Uh, you wrote down in other places, 16 by 20,
cross it out, put 14 by 20.
I think I heard you say 18 by 20.
I really just want clarification.
No, no, I was saying that the original,
the original was 20 by 25.
What is the size shed that you
Request? 14 by 20. Right?
14 by 20. That's all I needed. Thank you. Yeah.
Hey, Mr. My,
that was actually the same thing I was gonna ask too.
'cause I picked that up too.
So thanks for asking the question.
I'll yield the floor.
Any other questions, discussion, or any motions?
Mr. Chair, if nobody else has anything else
to say, I'd like to make a motion.
Mm-hmm. I'd like to make a motion to grant the permission,
uh, the petitioner permission to one, allow a 14 foot
by 20 foot, 280 square foot shed.
Two to allow a total of 900 square feet
of accessory tructure floor area,
which includes the 440 square foot attached garage,
180 square foot covered rear patio,
and the 280 square foot proposed shed.
Um, due to the fact the size
and shape of the lot, it's not a detriment
and it's not a detriment to the area
and it's, it's necessary
Support. Support.
Okay. We have a motion by Mr. Jersey.
I heard a number of supports,
but I think I heard Mr. Perry first.
Did you or did you support or was Mr. Watts? I did.
You did, Mrs. It doesn't matter. Okay.
So in support by Mr. Watts to approve the request
for the reason stated in the motion,
Mr. Jersey votes? Yes.
For the reason. State in the motion.
Mr. Watts? Yes. For the reasons stated motion.
Mr. Lindsey? Yes.
For the reason stated in the motion.
Mr. Green? Yes. For the reason. State of
The motion, Mr. Clifft?
Yes. For the reasons stated in the
Motion. Mr. Perry?
Yes. For
The reason stated in a motion Mr.
Assessor?
Yes. For the reason stated in the
Motion Chairman Stevi?
Uh, yes. For reasons stated in motion
to request is approved.
Thank you everybody. Have a blessed evening.
Uh, one question. Do I need to go to the city for any
Everett? Will a answer?
Any questions you got?
Thank you guys. Yep.
Takes us to item nine.
Applicant Jackson White, representative Jackson White.
Description, 3 0 6 5 4.
Campbell variances requested permission
to one construct a 18 foot by 20 foot 360 square foot shed
to allow the proposed shed to be six feet
behind existing garage.
Three, allow a total of 904 square feet of accessory
structure floor area, including the 480 square feet existing
garage, the 64 square foot center room,
and the proposed 360 square foot shed
Is petitioner present.
Good evening, Jackson White.
Address is 3 0 6 5 4 Campbell Street.
Thank you for your time tonight.
Um, I'm asking for, um, variances.
Three of them on a sh a new shed.
Um, 18 by 20 by eight.
There is and was a shed there since 1952.
Uh, the overview that you have in your packet doesn't really
show the true story.
It shows the space, but it doesn't show the condition.
Uh, my parents lived there for 37, 38 years, um,
and they tried to take care of it as much as they could,
but they have since passed away,
and I've since moved into it
and been bringing it slowly up to speed and to code.
Um, that shed is literally and was literally falling apart.
It was dilapidated.
Doors didn't work, the windows didn't work.
It's on a, uh, a sod brick foundation.
Um, so it, it, it ho it, it housed all
of the equipment that my dad had for the yard.
Uh, we live on a, a little over a three quarters of an acre.
I have a neighbor that is on, uh, almost an acre
and a half onto the south side.
I have my immediate neighbor who doesn't send a letter.
He said it was okay with it. Kitty corn to that.
We have another neighbor that's on
an acre and three quarters.
Um, this would be an improvement to
the property and to the area itself
because of the condition of the existing
and the, that shed that was there, um,
that shed was housing the zero turn snowblower.
You know, my dad had a big garden.
So we're, we are looking at all of the, all of the yard
and yard stuff that he had on there and the lawn stuff.
Um, right now it's in my garage along with his benches
that he had over 12 feet of benches and workspace.
Uh, I'm just looking to replace what was there for
almost, what, 2025 from 53 70 years,
um, of, of just old and needs to be rebuilt.
Um, asking your permission on these variances.
I did not realize, uh, when I got the house from my mom
and dad that, uh, um, there was gonna be an issue.
It was existing, so I was just assuming that, hey,
we put something brand new
in there, everybody would love it.
Um, it's actually a little smaller than what was there.
Um, it's gonna be tucked in behind the garage.
Uh, it's gonna be even with the garage,
which is 15 feet from the neighbor on the north, uh,
200 feet from the neighbor to the east.
Um, and it's gonna be smaller than the garage.
It's gonna have a eight foot peak,
so it's gonna be tucked in behind.
It's gonna be on the slab using the existing rat walls.
Um, so with your consideration
tonight, I'd like to have that approved.
Okay. Thank you for that explanation.
Um, this is a public hearing.
Is there anyone in the audience wishing
to speak on this item and not seeing anyone
approaching or close the public portion of the meeting?
And, uh, Mr.
Jersey, you have some for the, you have three done?
Yeah, I just have one. Okay. Um, thank you Mr. Chair.
It's from, uh, Diane Chase, who resides at 3 0 6 5 5.
Campbell says hello.
I received the notice of public hearing
for October 8th, 2025 at seven 30.
I'm unable to attend this hearing
regarding Jackson White asking for a variance for 18 foot
by 20 foot shed to be placed on his property,
located at 3 0 6 5 4 Campbell Road.
Campbell warned Michigan while I live across the street from
Mr. White, I personally see no issue
with this request is they're wonderful neighbors
who keep their property very well maintained.
They are very kind neighbors
and an asset to our neighborhood.
I never received a request of this nature, so I'm hopeful
that my response is sufficient.
Thank you, Mr. Jersey. So I'll turn this over to the board
for any questions or discussion.
Mr. Chair? Yes, Mr. Lindsay,
I have a quick question maybe for, for Mr. Murphy.
This might be a silly one, so I apologize.
Uh, my question would be,
so the variance requesting on item two is for the shed
to be six feet behind the existing garage.
Is there, is there some sort
of limitation where it has to be further?
No, actually it says that the,
if you have a detached garage,
that any accessory structure must be Aja
immediately adjacent to the garage.
Okay. Um, the policy that's been there as long
as I've worked there is to allow a maximum of three feet so
that you can actually maintain, you know,
between deciding on both whatever, maintain the structure,
but any more than three feet, you know,
they have to come to the board.
Okay. Thank you. Um, for the rest of the board, I mean, I,
I think this is tastefully done.
Uh, I really have no issue with it.
I think the shed, uh,
that the petitioner's requesting is a little big.
Um, but I,
I really don't have any issues if
it's replacing the one that's there.
He's got enough yard space
where I don't see it being too big.
I, I, I think it's a little big for a shed.
Um, but I,
I have no issue supporting it. That's just my comment.
Okay. Thank you Mr. Lindsey, Mr. Chair, Mr. Jersey. Um,
So I, I, I like the fact that the,
the shed is outta the line of sight.
It's right behind the garage.
Um, that's the first thing I look at when, um,
these things come, come to us,
if they're not on a corner lot, um, I think, um, you know,
also to, uh, you know,
Mr. Lindsay, uh, you know, he, he also expressed that, um,
the petitioner expressed that this is actually gonna be
smaller than what was on the current property.
So, um, you know, I, I, I do agree it's a little excessive
still, but, um, given the size of the lot, um,
and the stuff needed to also support that lot
that the shed is probably, probably needed.
Um, so I, I don't see anything outta the ordinary with this.
Um, and, uh, it would be a yes vote for me.
So I'll yield the floor.
Mr. Chair, if there's no
other comments, I'd like to make a motion.
Okay. I'd like to make a motion to grant permission to one,
construct an 18 foot by 20 foot, uh, 360 square foot shed.
Two, allow the proposed shed to be six feet
behind the existing garage, uh, and it should be.
Number three, allow a total of 904 square feet
of accessory structures floor area,
including the 480 square foot existing garage,
the 64 square foot sunroom,
and the proposed 360 square foot shed.
Uh, due to the fact that it's not a detriment to the area,
uh, and the size of the shape of the lot, support,
Support, have motion by Mr. Lindsay.
And I heard support by Mr.
Jersey to approve the request
for a reasons stated in the motion.
Um, Mr. Lindsay
Yes. For the reasons stated
in the motion, Mr.
Jersey votes yes. For the reasons stated in the motion.
Mr. Watts? Yes.
For the reasons stated motion,
Mr. Green Yes. For
the reasons stated in The motion. Mr. Clifft Yes.
For the reasons stated in the
Motion, Mr. Assessor
Yes. For the reasons stated
in the motion,
Mr. Perry Yes.
For the reason stated in the motion Chairman Stevi,
Uh, yes. For reason stated
in motion, your request is approved.
Thank you.
Item 10, applicant Basal construction
representative Sarah Meison.
Description, 2 2 9 0 1 mound variance has requested
permission to install new signage as follows.
One. A 24.13 square foot sign on the north elevation
of the canopy of 15.29 square foot sign on the east
elevation of the canopy.
And a 15.29 square foot sign on the west elevation
of the canopy for a total of 54.71 square feet
of wall signage on the canopy.
2 761 0.29 square feet of design element on the canopy.
3 43 0.02 square foot
per regular pump on five pumps for a total
of 215 point 10 square feet.
Four 13.74 square feet
and one diesel pump total of 1000.
44.84 square feet of wall signage requested in place
of previous variances for wall signage related
to the gas station operation.
Good evening. Good evening.
Um, Sarah heighten on behalf of Basel Construction.
Uh, the address is 2 2 9 0 1 mound.
Um, this location is an existing shell, uh,
it's going marathon
and the owner assigned a new fueling contract with Marathon.
Therefore, we're requesting a variance
to essentially change the brand over.
So we're swapping out the existing signs for marathon signs,
um, on the gas canopy as well as the pumps.
And then on the pole sign, we're not touching the structure
of the sign, we're just swapping out the inserts,
and that's about it that we're doing here.
Okay. Thank you for your explanation.
Um, this is a public hearing.
Is there anyone the audience wishing to speak on this item
that's seeing any, I close the public portion of the meeting
and turned over to a board for questions and discussion.
I I've got one question.
So basically, if your variance is requested,
variance variances, granted that takes the place
of all the previous signs that were on that property, right?
Correct.
So to piggyback off that, um, there's a lot
of variances on his property.
Um, there's not
or any of these currently go with your sign package?
I am not oh certain, to be honest with you.
They do pertain to this.
Like, to my project specifically, I know
that there was an addition, like, I guess what I'm asking
for is a bit over than what's there
because obviously the brains are a little different,
so the measurements were different.
Um, but as far as like the square footage of the canopy, all
that structurally has is not being changed.
Uh, Mr. Murphy, if you could please, sir,
could you shed a little bit more light
and possibly, uh, help me, help me along with this answer.
Um, is, is is there anything that currently goes
with her sign package
that's currently granted to the property?
I see that they already have variances
previously for the canopy.
Um,
So, and then the poll sign too,
But I don't believe the poll sign
is part of the request tonight.
It's In the packet.
Um, so it may be in the, in the packet itself.
Um, but if they're only changing the panels on the pole
sign, then that's actually, uh, permitted.
Right? So it doesn't need a variance for that.
So they might have thrown it in the package of
what they want to do, but it didn't actually require a
variance for the pole sign.
So this is strictly for the canopy
And Pumps. And
the pumps.
Okay. Thank you sir.
And then typically, you know, with all these packages
that, especially the, the gas stations with the canopies
and all the design element, they start becoming very
cumbersome to maintain, right?
There's a lot. So typically what happens is we say, Hey,
we're gonna grant this for the canopies
and the pumps of the wall and, uh,
potentially relinquish the previous variances so that,
you know, going forward, we're only looking at these
Variants. That's what I'm trying to
do on this property.
I'm trying to clean up what I can and I try to do that
as often as I can where I can.
Yep. So I was trying to go through this real quick
and just trying to decipher, I mean,
the LED lights are still intact at, at
that, at that location.
Yeah, there's a,
I believe there's a light bar on the canopy now. From
What I know it says he is got here.
I got granted here.
Um, permission is like a, I think for a beer wine sign.
Um, LED message center.
Um, else we have here
The LED Message center, the bull nose
striping with the LED lighting.
Um, the three helio signs
that looks like it goes along with the last,
That's Like gas station.
The, I'm looking at the one grand 2 25 0 4
That's old. Those
are for, from what I know, that's like bp, so
it's now shell, so they completely bypassed all that right.
With Shell. And
So what I'm trying to do is for the next, I know next guy
who or lady takes this job
and has to go through four pages of gas station stuff,
if we could try and get a couple things
that are no longer gonna go with the property off of here,
I think we, we'd be better off.
So I'm just trying to decipher what that is.
Right. Uh, it looks like
to me it's the variances granted on just 2 25 0 4
would be the only ones I believe that we could relinquish.
Yeah. Is that correct, sir?
It, it sounds like it would make sense to,
to relinquish the ones related to the canopy
and the pumps that would maintain everything else.
Right. Since they're still in use, so, okay.
Thank you, sir. Appreciate your, uh, your insight on that.
As always. I'll yield the floor. Mr.
Chair? Yes, Mr. Watts?
Mr. Murphy, I'd like to get you to run back
Over there.
I'm looking at the, um,
compliance enforcement sheets here.
Okay. And I see that it says
that they need a certificate of compliance
and I don't see anywhere in these three sheets that says
that's ev that's ever been completed.
We would not allow them
to come here tonight if they had not either obtained it
or at least we're in the process
and had submitted the application and we accepted it.
Okay. Yeah, we wouldn't,
we would not even allow it to go forward.
Fair enough. Thank you. I yield. Okay.
Any other questions, comments, or any motions?
Mr. Chair? Yes,
Mr. Lindsay, I have a quick question.
Uh, for the petitioner, um,
with the, the canopies, is any part of
that signage illuminated
Just the signs, the signs are
illuminated or are you meaning the
Actual, so the marathon M is Yes, the logo,
but the, the whole canopy, no.
Linear is not illuminated? No. Okay.
That's usually what I have an issue with.
Uh, I'm fine with having like the marathon
logo, uh, illuminated.
I usually don't like to see the gas stations have the whole
canopy lit up.
So that, that answers my question. Thank you.
Any other comments or any motions? Mr.
Chair? Nobody else has anything else to say.
I'd like to make a motion. Yes, Mr.
Jersey to make a motion to grant the petitioner's request to
want, um, to install new signage as follows.
One, a 24.13 square foot sign on the north elevation
of the canopy, a 15.29 square foot sign on the east
elevation of the canopy
and a 15.29 square foot sign on the west elevation
of the canopy for a total of 54.71 square feet of
wall signage on the canopy.
2 7 61 0.29 square feet of design element on the canopy.
3 43 0.02 square feet per regular pump on five pumps
for a total of 215 point 10 square feet.
Four 13.74 square feet
and one diesel pump total of 1040 4.84 square feet
of wall signage requested in place of previous variances
for wall signage related to the gas station aberration.
In addition to that, the petitioner
has approved the relinquish,
the variances granted on the property on
2 25 0 4 and two 20.
Um, 2 25 0 4 under Mound card one and Mound card two
Support Due to the fact that the size
and shape of the lot and it's not a detriment to the area.
So you have a motion by Mr. Jersey, support by Mr.
Assessor to approve the request
for the reasons stated in the motion.
Mr. Jersey votes? Yes.
For the reason stated in the motion. Mr. Assessor? Yes.
For the reason stated in the motion
Mr. Perry? Yes.
For the Stated in the motion, Mr. Clifft?
No, that's 1004 0.84 square feet over
what the ordinance allows
Mr. Green? Yes. For the
Reason stated in The motion. Mr. Watts?
Yes. For the reason stated in the motion.
Mr. Lindsey? Yes. For
The reason State of The motion Chairman Ms. Novi? Uh,
Yes. For reason, state of the
motion.
Uh, your request has been approved.
Thank you.
Takes this. Item 11, applicant,
basil Construction representative Sarah Meson.
Common description, 7 0 3 1 9 mile.
Your answers requested permission
to install new signage as follows.
One. A 24.13 square foot wall sign on the south elevation
of the canopy, a 15.29 square foot wall sign on the east
elevation of the canopy.
And a 15.29 square foot wall sign on the west elevation
of the campy for a total of 54.71 square feet
of wall signage on the canopy to 863.29 square feet
of design element on the canopy.
3 43 0.02 square feet
of signage per regular gas pump and four pumps.
172.08 square feet.
13.74 square feet of signage per diesel
and E 85 pumps on two pumps.
27.48 square feet
and 7.04 square foot of signage on the racing fuel pump
for a total of 206.6 square feet
of signage on the seven pumps.
Four, also to retain the previously granted 380 square foot
of design element on the building
with 70 47 0.25 square feet of signage on it.
Total wall signage requested is 1,102 24.60 square feet
in addition to the previously granted 380 square foot square
feet of design element
and 47.25 square feet of sign on the building
for an overall total of 1551.85 square feet
of wall signage in place of previous
Mar's Grand for wall signage.
Good evening again. Uh, this is Sarah Hyen on behalf
of ZO Construction, uh,
regarding the property at 70 31 9 mile.
Um, this is an existing marathon, uh, old image, however,
and it's being upgraded
to meet the new marathon image specs.
Um, we're requesting the variance basically
to refresh this location.
It's currently a little bit of an eyesore.
We are having a, a issue with, uh,
we can't order old image materials
because, um, marathon does not make them anymore.
So we have to, um, update what's existing
with your permission
And that's about it. Okay?
Okay. Thank you for that explanation.
Um, this is a public hearing.
Is there anyone in the audience
wishing to speak on this item?
Not seeing any or close the public portion of the meeting
and turn it over to the board for questions and discussion.
Okay. I'd like to make a motion while
Yes, Mr. Green. Okay.
I'll leave you alone, sir. I move that.
We grant the petitioner permission to install new signage
as follows, A 24.13 square foot wall sign in the south
elevation of the canopy,
a 15.29 square foot wall sign on the east elevation
of the canopy, and a 15.29 square foot wall sign on the west
elevation of the canopy for a total of 54.71 square feet
of wall signage on the canopy.
2 863 0.29 square feet of design element on the canopy.
3 43 0.02 square feet of signage
per regular gas pump on four pumps,
172.8 square feet, 13.74 square feet
of signage per diesel and E eight five pumps
and two pumps at 27.48 square feet
and 7.04 square feet of signage on the racing fuel pump
for a total of 206.6 square feet
of signage on the seven pumps.
And four, also
to retain the previously granted 380 square feet
of design element on building with 47.25 square feet
of signage on the building.
Total wall signage requested is 1124.60
square feet in addition
to the previously granted 380 square feet of design element
and 47.25 square feet of sign on the building
for an overall total of 1551.85 square feet
of wall signage in place of the previous variances.
Grand for the wall signage
Support. Reason,
Reason, uh,
because it meets the, it meets the ordinance.
No, it done so well. What was my reason again? I forgot
Your motion.
Not a detriment. There you go.
Basically have a motion by Mr. Greens
Per by Mr. Watts support For a reason.
State in a motion support by
Support by Watts.
Yes. Okay. Thank you, sir. Uh, Mr. Green? Yes.
For restate the motion.
Mr. Watts? Yes. For the reason. State of the motion.
Mr. Lindsay? Yes. For the reason.
State of the motion Mr. Perry? Yes.
For the reinstated of the motion. Mr. Assessor?
Yes. For the reason stated of
The motion, Mr. Clifft
Being is how it's 1511.85 feet in excess of
what the ordinance says it can be. I'm voting No.
Mr. Jersey votes Yes. For a reason
to stay in motion. Chairman Stevi
A yes. For reason to stay
in motion.
Your request has been approved. Thank you.
Takes us to item 12.
Applicant marked no,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna butcher this.
Sini, is that correct?
Like zucchini, but Chuck
Cini Cini.
Okay. Thank you sir. Representative Jeffrey Graham.
Common description of one, uh, 14,000
and 13,000 970 10 mile
Petitioner's asking for permission
to get to the next page.
Branch requested permission to one, allow open storage,
parking maneuvering, laying hard surfacing,
and existing fence to the front property line.
Site plan indicates Barb wire to be removed
and opaque strips to be added to fencing
to retain front setback of 19.3 feet
for the existing nonconforming building.
Three, allow open storage
and maneuvering lanes on a gravel surface.
Four, allow a total of 22,620 square feet of open storage
exceeding, allowable open storage
by 19225.50 square foot, square feet on site,
which the building is 6,789 square feet of floor area.
Yes. Hello? My, uh, thank you for having us.
Uh, my name is Jeffrey Graham.
I'm the, uh, project architect.
Um, I just want, and I'm representing, uh, mark
Chicken e you know.
Hi. I feel your pain, sir.
Um, the, any address please?
I think the, uh, history of the building, if you
Can actually just add, uh, address,
The address. Oh, my address
is 5 8 9 Pemberton Gross Point Park, uh,
Michigan 4 8 2 3 oh.
Um, I think that it's important
to look at the history of this site.
The site was built just like this 80 years ago
by the McComb Road, uh, road Commission, um, to use,
be used for open storage with a, a building to obviously
to protect their tools and things like that,
therefore, their road construction.
Um, 40 years ago, the family, uh,
43, 43 years ago, uh, Mark's family bought the property
for the exact same reason.
They also were working on roads and drive
and, uh, service roads and,
and utilities and things like that.
So this was a perfect building for them
because they were, had, they had the exact same use.
And, um, they've been in business now for 43 years.
On that site, the site is surrounded, uh, from on one side
as an industrial building on another, on the back
of the building is a large commercial building.
And to the other side of the building is a, uh,
a gas station, which is open
and closed every once in a while.
Um, further down, uh, to the east is a railroad line.
So we're, we're talking about something that's really, uh,
tucked away in an industrial sector of the, of the city.
Um, we've had, uh, no complaints from anybody in the, uh,
in the last 43 years,
and we wish to just maintain what we, what we have.
Okay. Okay. Thank you for that explanation.
Um, this is a public hearing.
Uh, if there's anyone in the audience wishing
to speak on this item, uh, please approach not seeing any
or close the public portion of the meeting
and turn it over to the board for discussion.
Mr. Chair? Yes, Mr. So green,
I don't know who the question would this question before,
but on the site plan
and the impact statement, there's conflicting statements.
So on the site plan, it says that
you're gonna get rid of the barb wire fencing
and wave the screening, the slot screening of the, uh,
Yeah. Initially that,
initially why we wanted
to keep the barbed wire, uh, and the, uh,
and not install slots because for security reasons,
because of the location
and, uh, previous problems with, with, with attempted theft.
However, we were convinced by the, by the, uh, war
and planning department that that wasn't a good choice.
And so at the last minute, we, we agreed with them
and decided to take the barb wire off
and put in the slats, uh,
to make the building look the site look more attractive,
even though less functional for us.
Good enough. Thank you, Mr. Chair?
Yes, Mr. Jersey. Um, so that was actually a good,
um, I actually wanna read the impact statement first from
the, um, planning department.
Um, so per the planning department, um,
after review of the request, no issues were found
to impact the budding local or general public.
The petitioner received site planning approval
with conditions for outdoor storage
of construction materials and equipment on July 28th, 2025.
Um, so to follow that up, um, you know,
I think there's a good suggestion eliminating the barbed
wire because we, we hold firm up at least
that since I've been on the board, that we don't,
we haven't allowed a single thing with Barb Boyer, um,
in this, in the city ever,
at least since I've been setting up here.
So it was a, it was a good recommendation to follow.
Um, I really don't see anything that really sticks out
that could be a problem with this property.
I mean, it's a, it is unique property.
Um, the way, the way it's situated,
it is an industrial corridor.
I don't see any impact on any kind of, um,
you know, any kind of public, you know, around
the general area at all.
Um, just real quick to the petitioner,
is it, what was it before
It was, it, It was, it was all always
just a construction yard, right? As far as that?
Yeah. It, it was first built by, uh, the Macomb
Road Commission, and if you drive into the front
of the building, it's actually engraved in the, in the,
in the building that it says McComb.
Yeah, I mean, I recall it's, I,
I couldn't remember offhand what it was,
but I know it's always been something construction
or just building oriented.
Um, so nothing's really changed on that site.
Um, you know, I, I don't really see a problem with this.
And, um, I also want to thank the petitioner
for investing in the property as well.
So, um, I'll yield the floor.
Mr. Chair? Yes, Mr. Watts.
I got a couple questions for Mr. Murphy.
I guess looking through the compliance issues, would,
I assume they've never had a certificate of occu
or compliance all these years,
and that's why we're do, why we're at the point we're at.
This is true. So they've been there 43
years. Hmm.
I started working there about, on
that property about 2014.
I see, I see that. Yep.
And I've been trying to get this done ever since.
Um, yeah.
And I'm very aware the building's been there forever.
So I remember when it was road commission.
Um, the other question I had to you was this fence,
slotting, slatt, whatever you call it, screening.
Yeah. Does that comply with our ordinance?
Absolutely. Because they're making residents
take it off their fences,
Not the slats.
It's usually when they want to put the black material, the
Screening. Okay. Yeah. That's
the difference. Yeah.
All right. Yeah. Yeah, that black material,
we don't actually consider that permanent. The slats we do.
Okay. All right. That answers that question.
So now my question to the petitioner,
um, are you
Sure You're gonna follow through on this?
I mean, all this time that I see all these complaints of no
comp, uh, certificate compliance,
we're gonna get this done, right?
Yes. I mean, I,
I'm wondering in my mind why it never got done.
Well, it it, To go back
to when Mr. Murphy,
Oh, if you could speak into the
microphone. Yeah, right here.
Sorry. And after your name and address, 'cause
It didn't get mine name's Mark Yakini.
My home address is 3 9 0 6 5 Parkway
Circle, Harrison Township, Michigan. Sure. Thank
You.
Uh, the previous mayor and I wrote an email to him.
He came out, said, everything
can stay the way it did, and it did.
We said, don't worry about it. That's exactly what happened.
I wrote him an impassioned email.
I said, sir, I've been here since, uh, 1982.
I've been a model citizen.
Um, never late with taxes, never late with a payment,
never had a complaint from my neighbor.
Been working here. My father passed in 2018.
He bought that property in 1982
because it was ex we,
It was exactly As we were going
to use it and never changed.
And then all of a sudden There was a problem.
So I, I got a hold of, uh, Mr. Fouts in his office.
He sent a gentleman out. I don't recall his name.
He was a older gentleman, kind of short.
It's all, I don't know, you guys have been around.
I don't know who it was. Came over
and looked at it, made a phone call, said, Mr.
Kin, you don't worry about it, you're good. Okay.
And then years later, then this started going
and I said, you know what?
Let's get it done. Okay.
And that's what we're here for tonight. Get it done.
Fair enough. I appreciate the answer to the question.
Um, yeah, just I'd like to see places getting cleaned up.
I know that it's been there forever
and, uh, I appreciate that. Thank
You. Thank you.
Any other questions or discussion or motions?
No one else has anything. I'll make a motion.
Okay. Uh, permission to allow open storage, parking,
maneuvering lane hard servicing
and existing fence to the front property line.
Site plan indicates barbed wire to be removed
and opaque strips to be added to the fencing
to retain the front setback of 19 uh, feet, three inches
for the existing non-conforming building.
Three, allow open storage
and maneuvering lanes on a gravel surface.
Four, allow a total of 22,620 square feet
of open storage exceeding, allowable open storage
by 19225.50 square feet on a site,
which the building is 6,789 square feet of floor area.
Uh, reason for that is, uh, it's not a detriment.
It's been there forever at that way.
And, uh, hopefully it'll take care of the problems.
Support. Okay.
We have a motion by Mr. Watts, support by Mr. Perry
to approve the request for a reason stated in the motion.
Mr. Watts? Yes. For the reasons stated in the motion.
Mr. Perry? Yes. For the reason stated in the motion, Mr.
Ser Yes. For the reasons stated in the motion.
Mr. Cliff? Yes. For the reasons stated in the motion.
Mr. Green? Yes. For the reasons stated in the
Motion. Mr. Lindsay?
Yes. For the reasons stated the motion, Mr.
Jersey votes? Yes. For reason, state and motion Chairman
Starch a Yes. For
reason, state and motion. Your request is approved.
Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
Uh, so next we have, uh, new business.
Uh, I had two items I wanted to bring up under new business.
First being, um, we did get a request, uh,
from the planning Commission to have an inaugural
yearly joint planning meeting with them, uh,
to look at doing that starting in January of 2026.
So we're gonna look, work with them to find a date
and more information to follow,
but I just wanted to bring everybody up to date on that.
Um, I also want to welcome Councilman Noonan
and Councilwoman McGee, uh, to our meeting today.
Thank you very much for attending.
Um, those are the only two items I have for new business.
Does anyone else have any new business or Mr.
Chair? Yes, Mr. Watts?
I have a question for Mr. Murphy.
I'm not so sure he can answer this question,
but at our last meeting, um, last meeting
or the one before, we had an issue at 3 0 1, 2 2 ano,
uh, and they had concrete added to the driveway,
and I asked Mr.
Watchpoint about that
and he said they were gonna, you know, go for compliance on
that, sent a, a letter or what have you.
And the question was, we wondering if that got done or not?
I don't have the records in front of me right now.
Uh, so I wouldn't be able to answer that question right now.
Uh, fair enough. But, um, what was that address?
3 0 1 2 2, okay.
If I forget it, I'll go watch the video,
but I'll, I'll look into that
and make sure that somebody's on it
Or send me a text or something.
I can do that. Thank you. That works. Appreciate it. Thanks.
Any other new business? Motion for adjournment?
Motion to adjourn board. We have a motion by Mr. Cliff.
Support by Mr. Jersey. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye.
Uh, meeting adjourned at, let's see, what time is it?
8 8 40. I miss.