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Yeah. Good evening.
Welcome to the City of War and Planning Commission.
February 9th, 2026.
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Roll call.
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no, I'm not
You. Okay.
Roll call. Roll call.
Okay. Commissioner Ansar Present.
Commissioner Hollow Present.
Commissioner Hawk Present. Commissioner ey Present.
Commissioner Maurice Present.
Commissioner Beki Present. Commissioner Smith.
Present, we have a quorum approve.
A motion to approve the agenda
Chair. I make a motion
to approve the agenda
Support. Mr.
Chairman, there's
A motion by Commissioner Hollow,
supported by Commissioner Doe.
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
Motion to approve the minutes of January 26th. 26th.
So moved. Mr. Chairman Support Maury.
There's a motion by Commissioner Doe.
Support by Commissioner Maury. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye.
Any opposed? Uh, I'd like
to recognize our ex-official Councilwoman McGee.
Good evening. Item number six, public hearing items.
Item AM number six, A site plan for a gas station
with convenience store located on the northeast corner
of Mount 13 mile Roads.
3 1 1 0 4 Mount Road, section four, Michael Wigan
and Gazebo Real Estate, Josh Britain.
And agree, convenience number one L-L-C-P-S-P
2 5 0 0 5 0.
This was postponed from December 15th, 2025.
January 12th, 2026. And January 26. 2026.
The petitioner request is further postponement
to February 23rd.
2026. Thank you
Mr. Chairman.
Yes. I'd like to make a motion that we postpone,
uh, six a site plan for gas station with convenience store
to February 23rd, 2026.
I support. Answered the wrong answer.
There was a motion by Commissioner dse, supported
by Commissioner Ansar. Roll call
Commissioner Ddue.
Uh, to yes. To postpone. Commissioner Ansar? Yes.
To Postpone. Commissioner Hollow. Yes. To Postpone.
Commissioner Hawk. Yes. To postpone Commissioner Mor votes.
Yes. Commissioner Beki? Yes. To Postpone Commissioner Smith.
Yes. To postpone the February 23rd, 2026
item number six B.
Item number six B site plan for open storage of vehicles
and storage pots.
Located on the southeast corner of she, her road
and I Idea Avenue 2 1 7 3 0.
She her road section 36, RDE Polis
and Saf Farro properties.
LLC Jeffrey Ham, Mtech and Associates.
PSP 2 5 0 0 5 2. Postponed from January 26.
2026. Thank you.
Is the petitioner here this evening? Yes.
Can you come down please tell us a little bit about your
project, sir.
Good evening, sir.
Hi, my name is Jeffrey Graham. I'm the project architect.
Um, I'm representing Mr. Randy Apolo.
He's here too, if you need to talk to him.
Uh, basically this is, uh, the long established businesses.
Uh, there are three businesses on this site.
Um, they're all owned by one person.
Um, but the businesses are separate.
I'm sorry, the building. The site is owned by one person
and the, and the others are tenants.
Um, there's a, a warehouse where they sell, um,
I would call it, uh, small candies
and things like that for vending machines.
It's basically a vending machine operation.
Um, then right next to him is a minor, uh,
automotive repair shop, which is basically for tires.
It's owned by the own, the current owner,
which is a one tires.
And then the, the building on the other side
of the driveway, uh, uh, uh,
is a collision shop that's been there.
It's, it's changed owners,
but the collision shop itself has been there
for over 30 years.
Uh, this, this particular site has gone through several, um,
site plan approvals and has been given variances.
Uh, for the, uh, one variance was for the front
of the building, uh, whether to allow
for those four parking spaces,
another variance at a different time.
Uh, I think, uh, Mr.
Wirth could tell you the actual dates of the, um, variances
that were given was for parking.
Um, where they limited the parking to eight spaces.
We actually have more than the eight spaces.
And they also allowed for a, uh, use of, uh, storage within
the 20 foot setback of the rear
'cause that's right next to residential housing.
I do wanna point out that, um, we are going to go
for variance for, to add additional open storage
behind the warehouse to put in about six
or seven containers, which will hold, um,
because they're outta space in the warehouse.
And then basically what's being stored in there are candies
and, and snacks
and things like that, that, uh, for their vending machines,
you may notice that adjacent to them is a house.
Uh, they have a very good rapport with, with a lady there.
Um, in fact, um, she's had some problems with, uh,
people breaking into her cars.
So on some, some occasions, she'll,
they have let her park in their secured back lot,
uh, whenever she wants.
It's a, you know, this nice, nice lady.
And, um, that's the other variance
that we'll be seeking is to make the fence.
This currently of this, this is a five foot
masonry wall fence.
In order to hide the, um,
the storage pods that you can see, that section
of storage pods, uh, we're gonna raise that, uh,
masonry wall up to 10 feet and, uh, block.
So the view will be blocked completely.
'cause those u those units are nine foot six tall.
So we're going with a 10 foot wall.
And that's, uh, that's pretty much it.
Um, they've been there for, they've been there forever.
And we're just, and the,
the only new construction we're adding is, uh, we're,
we're putting a fence of a fence
and a gate, uh, along Ida Road
and also across the front to make the, basically to,
to secure the par the parking lot better
because they've been having some issues with security.
Thank you, sir. Correspondence,
Correspondence, taxes, current building,
the building department has issues with the parking lot,
Ingle parking and handicap requirements.
One van accessible space is required
with an access aisle engineering.
Preliminary review
of this site indicates no difficulty in development.
At and t at t does not object to this proposal.
We do have facilities in the, in the vicinity,
but they should not be affected.
Comcast, we have facilities in the area,
but they're not in conflict with the proposal.
MCDR, Macomb County Department of Roads, MCDR has received
and reviewed the enclosed preliminary plan for the
above reference site.
MCDR has the following objection
to the proposed development at
above mentioned site number one.
The MCDR will not allow removing existing grass area
and replacing it with concrete in north entrance
until existing concrete parking area
between south entrance is removed, seated and mulched.
If you have any questions, please feel free
to contact me at the phone number
above (586) 463-8671. Thank you.
Thank you. Uh, planning department's recommendation. Oh,
Oh, sorry. Can I clarify
two things?
Uh, according to that, we did take out the concrete
where the grass is, so we put in the woods,
so we're gonna keep the grass.
Um, and then, uh,
and then we did change the parking layout, uh,
through the drive through to make it a full
a DA parking spot, which was requested by the sa
by the building department.
Thank you, sir. Good evening.
Good evening. I guess to add on what he was saying,
I was gonna, uh, mention that as well.
But they received the, the first copy of the plan,
and those comments are based on the first copy of the plan,
not the revised one.
So they added the grass back in between that top,
those top driveways.
That was the original plan.
They were gonna remove it, but we wanted them to keep
that lawn area so that those,
so they didn't see this revised plan.
So, All right.
And so it's recommended that the site plan for open storage
of repair vehicles
and storage pods be approved with the standard conditions
of the planning commission.
And more specifically, number one, five copies
of revised site plan shall be
submitted, indicating the following.
One A, the zoning on the site plan shall be updated in the
site data chart to the following
M1 light industrial district
and R one P one family residential and parking district.
The east 50 feet of the property one B,
the revised plan is not scaling according to the scale
of one inch equals 20 feet as indicated on the site plan.
Correct the scale on the site plan.
Number two, the following variances may need
to be obtained from the zoning board of appeals prior
to the release of the site plan to the building.
Division two A, a use variance would be required
to allow the pods in an R one P district to b
to locate the storage 25 feet from the north
property line, Ida Avenue.
And to see, to raise the height of a portion
of the existing five foot wall to 10 feet.
Uh, for the north 60.7 feet
of the lo the wall along the east property line,
if approved, the variances shall be added
to the revised site plan.
And then there's a change in the bond, um,
based on the additional, uh, wall and reinforcements.
So, um, we've changed this
to read a performance bond in the amount
of $1,000 shall be posted according to the estimated cost
of $33,500 by the petitioner.
And this ends the recommendation.
Thank you, Ms. Michelle. This is a public hearing.
If anybody would like to come up
and speak on this item, please come up.
State your name and address for the rec record,
and you'll have three minutes to speak.
Seeing none, we'll turn it over to the commission
Chair. Make
a motion to approve with discussion
Support Beki As a motion by Mr.
Commissioner Hollow, Wadi supported
by Commissioner Beki. Go ahead. We can
Discussion. Okay. Can I, can
the petitioner
and possibly the owner step forward, please.
Yes, sir. Good evening, sir. Okay.
Just a couple quick questions.
Uh, for, you mentioned there were three separate businesses
operating on this one property.
Right. Okay.
What are the hours of operation of the,
of these different businesses?
Uh, can I bring up my client?
Yes. I, I did ask for him to step forward.
He must not have heard
What hours of operation.
What, what time, what,
when are you open? When are you closed?
All of all three. All three.
Um, I open from, uh, nine, uh, am
until 7:00 PM He's
The tire. He's the tire. I'm my
Tire. Okay.
What about the warehouse?
The warehouse he open from, uh, 5:00 AM
until, uh, 2:00 PM
Okay. And, uh,
the other one he operate from, uh, uh,
11 o'clock until, uh, seven o'clock.
Oh, none, not too late night till
eight, nine o'clock in the evening?
No. No. Okay. That's good.
So not that must a disturbance to the, to the residence. C
Can even, I, I, I, I told him, uh,
before I thought make sure, uh, close early
because I don't want any complaint from the neighbor,
you know, so I wanted to be a friend with the neighbor,
you know, before.
Why, why? Because I don't wanna in affect any, anybody.
You know what I'm saying? I'm good with everybody.
Sounds good. Okay. Okay.
And both of you have no problems with the recommendations
that were given by
Our No. In fact, we've
actually initiated most of them.
We've been working back and forth the 20.
No, but like, especially going that, you know, you have
to go in front the ZV eight for those
Varis. Yeah, no, we understand
that the,
we actually moved our fence line 25 feet back,
but the building has been there
for, I don't know, a hundred years.
So I don't know. That's an exaggeration.
But it's, it's, it's at 20 feet, not 25. Okay.
So that's the variance that we're going for, is
for a building that's already been long established.
Okay. Thank you. I, I yield the floor chair. Thanks,
Commissioner. Any other good discussion?
Commissioner Ecky?
Uh, Yes, I understand.
I heard Michelle say that you had not had the revised copy
and you heard that they're asking
for a performance bond of a thousand.
Is that, is that gonna be okay with you?
Yeah, a thousand is no problem. Okay.
Thank you. Thank, Thank you,
Mr. Chairman, commissioner
Doze. Um,
I'm very happy to see that you're raising the, uh,
wall to 10 feet.
Yeah. But we cannot approve a 10 foot wall.
The only people that can do it's zoning board
of appeals. Yeah.
So, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I, I think it's a terrific idea to hide the pods.
I didn't know they were nine foot, nine and a half feet.
You can get 'em pretty much any shape size.
Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
I, I know that because we sometimes do container
homes with the bigger ones.
Oh, okay. So something new going
around, making homes out of that stuff.
Um, do you have any,
uh, cars that are being worked on anywhere around here
that are overnight or,
or that you have to keep on the property
for any extended period of
Time? Yes,
we have. Uh, that's that if you look on the,
on the drawing, right, that section right there is right
for, um, vehicles that are being worked on
and they're behind the fence with, uh, a solid fence
and a solid wall on the back line.
You're not, so, let's say a, a car
that needs repair is gonna be there for a week.
I, I, i don dunno, the operation two,
but I, I don't know the operation.
Uh, I mean,
I, I just don't wanna see a car's, uh, busted up.
Cars sitting there for six months to a year or whatever.
Well, to be honest, sir, that would be, uh,
financially unwise for, for the client, for the
Correct. But
He needs, he needs the room for
cars that are coming in and out.
So it wouldn't be in his best interest
even to have cars for that long.
Well, if, as long as we have an understanding
that we're not, you're not gonna leave cars there
that are busted up and not running for, for over a month
or two months, uh, up to a year.
Like, because we've had problems with that previously. Yeah,
I, I've seen, yeah.
Yeah. I've, I've done this on num on several occasions with,
with collision shops and places.
But, uh, I mean, I can't speak to that,
but I, I can definitely have the owner pass the word onto
his tenant and tell him,
don't leave cars there over six
months. Would that be sufficient?
That would be more than sufficient.
Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you. Any other discussion?
Good evening, sir. I'm glad you're able to work out
the situation with the wall.
'cause that was a concern that I had.
Yeah. We're not quite sure
how we're gonna do it, but we are.
We will raise it to 10 feet.
But I know that if you raise it up with the concrete,
you're gonna have put extra reinforcement in
It. Oh, yeah. That's,
that's how it's normally done, but, right.
The advantage though, to this wall
is that it's made out of block.
So what you do is with the cavity, you take the top cap off,
you run steel rods all the way to the bottom, all the way
to the top, and then you fill that with concrete.
Right. And you basically make a, a line of columns,
a steel reinforce columns.
Right.
Okay. Very good, sir. Thank you.
Um, that was a motion by Commissioner Hollow, supported
by Commissioner Beki. Roll call.
Commissioner Hollow. Yes. Commissioner Buki. Yes.
To approve. Commissioner Ansar? Yes.
To approve Commissioner Hawk. Yes. Commissioner Ddue.
Yes. To approve Commissioner
Votes. Yes. Commissioner Smith.
Yes. To approve. Good luck with your project, sir.
Thank you so much. We really appreciate your call.
Have, have a good evening. Item number six C,
Item number six C site plan for a new site.
Plan for a new fitness training center located on the south
side of Jarvis Avenue,
approximately 1 77 feet west of Ryan Road.
3 8 7 8 Jarvis Avenue, section 31.
Mosca and Megan re fish, Somali
and MRE home L-L-C-P-S-P
2 6 0 0 0 3. Thank you.
Good evening. Ion, can you come up a minute, please
state your name and there,
just tell us a little bit about your project.
Yes. I'm Blair Hollis as well.
Um, I think it was on there.
It might have been spelled a little wrong.
Um, it's just a fitness center, a small fitness center, uh,
that we plan to put into community.
Um, we want to actually be a, a pillar of the community.
Um, I've been training my whole life, um,
and the Lord has blessed me with the opportunity that up
to you guys, if this gets approved, you know, I'll be able
to continue to be vigorous with this.
Um, but our project is more of a smaller,
um, one-on-one base.
I train a lot of celebrities. I train a lot of athletes.
I train people in the NFL, so they like smaller,
they don't like the crowds of the La Fitnesses
and the planet fitnesses.
It, it just gets too much.
So what I'm doing, I actually train out
of LA Fitness right now, and I go to smaller,
to their little gyms as well.
Um, but we're doing, we're trying to build something
for the community for smaller, more intimate personal,
um, fitness goals.
Um, like I said, I've been doing this my whole life.
Um, and we also have a variance that we might have
to put in pertaining to four parking spaces.
Um, I was, if it was permitted, we were going
to also add a couple bike racks.
Like I said, this is for the community, so we want
to keep everything for the community.
So some people might wanna ride their bike there.
Uh, we have our hours of operation will be every day from
six o'clock to eight o'clock.
With the latest it'd be nine o'clock.
That's for anybody that's like, Hey,
I don't really want to be in there with no one else.
So that'll be our, our times.
Um, pardon me, I'm a little nervous.
She got me nervous, so don't mind me.
Um, I take pride in what I do.
Everything I do, I'm more so the training part of it,
she's more so the realty part of it.
So we we're actually a one-two combo.
Um, and if this is approved, uh, like I said, we just want
to be pillars of the community.
We want to continue to put health into the community,
continue to make people eat better,
live better, and live longer.
Um, I think we need more people out here.
That's, that's their goal. You know?
Um, we always will put God first. That's everything we do.
Uh, we don't plan on making noise.
Like I said, this is more personal training for more
intimate sessions, um, that can miss the crowd
of the La Fitnesses, the planet fitnesses.
Um, just the bigger gyms we're gonna be, be a small gym.
Um, the, the personal training sessions,
which I do now is it does not exceed more than six
people at a time.
So from our hours, we won't, with the variance,
I'm sure we will still have to put that in,
but it won't, it won't oversee the parking spaces, which
sometime that's not guaranteed.
But I'm letting you know, like I'm doing it now
and it's usually six people and then they're in and out.
Like I said, these people come, these people go,
I don't have time for the games.
Hey, this is what we're doing today.
Um, but I also do one-on-one training for, like I said,
I train a lot of, they, they're to be actors,
but they're celebrities to me.
Um, and I take pride in that.
I take pride in everything I do.
Um, and like I said, I just, we just really want
to be pillars of the community.
Thank you, sir. Thank you. Correspondence,
Correspondence, taxes, current building,
building department will conduct a planned review once a
building permit slash planned review
application is submitted.
Engineering preliminary review
of this site indicates no difficulty in development.
At and t at
and t does not object
to the proposed new fitness center, Comcast.
We have aerial facilities in the area,
but we, we have no conflicts With the proposal.
D-T-E-D-T-E Electric Company has received
and reviewed the site plan for new fitness,
fitness, uh, training center.
DT Electric Company has no objection to the site plan
for new fitness training center impacting
3 8 7 8 Darvis Avenue.
We're in Michigan, section 31 per the site plan provided.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate
to contact me at 5 8 6 7 8 3 1 9 7 8
MCPW, the McComb County Public Works office.
M-C-P-W-O has reviewed the site plan
for the project reference above
and has determined the proposed site disturbance is less
than one acre and will not require a storm water
review from this office.
Prior to construction.
A soil erosion permit will be required from this office.
Cont uh, contact our soil erosion department at
5 8 6 4 6 9 5 3 2 7 for more information
regarding same.
If a no objection letter is required,
please forward your request to Wesley dot John
and macomb gov.org. Thank you.
Thanks Madam Secretary.
Planning Department's recommendation thank you
Is recommended that the site plan
for a new fitness training center be approved
with the standard conditions of the planning commission
and more specifically, number one, five copies
of revised site plan shall be submitted indicating the
following, one A at the hours
of operation on the site plan one BA note shall be
provided stating all alto retail sales
of items shall be prohibited on the site.
One CA note shall be provided stating open storage
and materials shall not be permitted on the site.
One DA note shall be
provided stating all lighting on the site shall be shielded
and not encroached upon abiding properties.
The light fixtures pull
and base shall be no higher than 20 feet
as measured from the top of the light fixture
to the bottom of the base.
At ground level, all glares shall be
eliminated from all light fixtures.
Upper directed lighting shall not be permitted.
One e indicate all proposed lighting on the site
and on the new building.
One F update the site plan to include plantings.
Include trees such as eastern red bud flowering cherry,
lilac, or service berry plant two trees in the front lawn
area, one centered in each lawn area.
Plant four shrubs such as arrowwood, viburnum,
or fragrance sumac between the four parking spaces
and the walkway, and between the walkway
and the east property line.
One GA note shall be
provided stating all landscaped areas shall be
automatically irrigated.
One H label all proposed fencing, including the type
and height, provide a note indicating the chain link fence
along the front and east property line to be removed.
One eye, a trash enclosure shall be
provided on the site with the following note,
a trash enclosure measuring a minimum of 10 feet
by 10 feet shall be constructed on the
constructed of six foot high.
Brick and boss port concrete walls
with a 45 degree angle cap, have screen gates
and be placed upon a minimum 10 feet by 18 feet.
Concrete pad that provides an eight foot wide apron masonry
block shall not be used as a construction material.
Number two, two copies
of revised elevation plan shall be submitted indicating the
following, indicate the mean height of the building
as measured between the eaves and the ridge height.
Number three, the following variance may need
to be obtained from the zoning board of appeals prior
to the release of the site plan to the building division.
And that's to waive four parking spaces if approved,
the variance shall be added to the revised site plan.
And number four, a performance bond in the amount
of $12,000 shall be posted according to the estimated cost
of $400,000 by the petitioner.
And I know the petitioner mentioned about adding bike racks
and that's not an issue.
So when they revise the plan, adding some bike racks, um,
you know, some in some location that isn't going to impede
with the parking spaces, maybe somewhere around
the building, I mean, or near that walkway area.
I mean, that should be fine.
So just have that on the updated site plan.
So this ends the recommendation.
Thanks Ms. Michelle. This is a public hearing.
Anybody would like to speak on this item. Please come up.
State your name and address for the record
and you'll have three minutes to speak.
Seeing none will turn over to the commission.
Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion that we approve,
uh, the site plan for New fitness training center.
Further recommendation and with discussion,
Uh, support by an answer.
There's a motion by Commissioner Ze, supported
by Commissioner Ansar.
Go ahead with the discussion.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Um, can you come up to the microphone please?
Uh, I like to see this
because it's new building in, in an area that could use it.
Um, question. Yes.
Are you hooked up with any hospital
or any place else for therapy work?
Um, no, I'm not as of right now. No, I'm not.
Are you thinking about it
or could, is it possible that you're gonna go down
that road, um, in the future?
I couldn't. I, I, I mean, I can't, I can't say
that right now, you know?
Um,
And that's fair enough.
Not, not a problem. Uh, uh, there some
of these big places, uh, fitness centers, uh, you,
you go in there and it's not therapy.
Uh, everybody's working out.
I just hate to take the personal side of it out of it,
and then it gets too overwhelmed.
Um, right. 'cause we're still in the community
and I hate to be a nuisance to the community
because it's just, it just, it gets overwhelmed.
Okay. Um, so like, as I stated, it is more
of a personal training, um, smaller group sessions.
The more you get into the therapy, the more you, you, I'm,
I'm, we are taking from what we are
and being someone else, um, we,
we mostly train like athletes and stuff like that.
And, and that's fair enough that I I have no problem.
I'm in the middle of, I'm going
to therapy twice a week. I would
Love to help you though.
You know, I would love it.
Could put you a little through a little therapy.
Specialize in all, you know,
We're, we're not gonna have that discussion.
Not, not right now. Anyway.
Uh, that's, but thanks for the offer. Yes, yes.
Second, are you going
to generate enough trash to Uh,
No.
And I plant, we already, we put that, um,
when we were talking to our engineers
and the people that's been helping us put this together.
We have pickup trucks already.
Um, it's gonna be minimum trash,
maybe water bottles, uh, stuff like that.
So I don't, we won't accumulate too much trash.
Um, I'm sure we're going to have up to par, whatever we have
to, you know, to cold.
We will have, but most of the stuff we won't.
It's, it's, it's be water bottles.
Well, if you keep the, if you keep the, the trash
or whatever is generated there inside
and take it out once a week or however you're gonna do it.
Yes. Then that would alleviate you having
to build a trash enclosure
and get a dumpster and everything.
Like I said, we plan on, when we were talking about this,
we have both have pickup trucks
and like I said, as of right now, it's water bottles.
Well, I can't see it being anything else.
'cause we don't, we won't have as sauna, um, we don't,
you know, wet, we won't have Asana,
we won't have showers and stuff like that.
So most of the time people, what they come
with, they're gonna leave with.
Okay. People are not gonna be eating there.
I don't want, we don't want no food in
there or none of that, you know.
So, um, I think the, the, the trash will be,
the debris will be at a minimum.
Well, if then you would have to put something, uh,
on the print that says, uh,
that the trash will be held internally
and then you don't need a trash enclosure.
Yes. Okay.
Is, is that, uh, the,
does the planning department agree with that or
Yeah, that'd be fine to put a note that what you said
and then to be disposed of elsewhere.
Like it's not, there's, they're just going to
take it and dispose of it.
Well, I, I, because I'm looking at this
and asking myself why, why do they need a trash enclosure?
I mean, it's a standard commercial industrial, but if the,
I understand that. Yeah.
So we could, we could remove the condition if you wanna
have a note saying to be, you know, minimal trash to be,
To, to be kept in, Maintained in the building
and disposed of elsewhere.
Something that would be, that would be perfect. Okay.
That fine. That would be perfect. And I think
that covers him and it covers us and, and so on
because it's the, the, the, from my way of thinking,
that's a lot of money being wasted on
something that's not needed. Okay. So,
Yeah, that sounds Good. Thank
you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, sir. Anyone else? Mr.
Chair? Mr. Chair? May, may, please. Chair, sir. Alright.
Thank you. Uh, first of all, I wanna thank you
for choosing this business
because I like, uh, like to go gym
and, um, I'm also a certified trainer,
but I didn't go for this career.
So it is very helpful for the community, uh, especially,
you know, health wise and also younger generation.
They can, and find, um, opportunity to go to the gym.
Sometimes they don't like to go to the L Fitness,
as you said, sometimes some people, they don't like to go
to the Planet Fitness as too much crowded.
So, and also, as you mentioned, that you,
you're gonna be the personal trainer.
You will take care of them personally.
Yes. I'm, it's a good thing.
I'm certified. Um, I'm a certified,
certified nutritionist.
I'm a certified personal trainer.
I have my strength and conditioning Nice. I play grand.
I played football my whole life at Grand Valley State.
That's where I ended at. Um, I have a degree in criminal
justice, but I didn't, I don't know
what I'm doing. I just, the lord,
Same thing. The Lord led
Me here. Like me
hearing about training
You guys today giving you, you know, so, um, yeah, it,
it was a lot of, it was a lot of avenues
that I could have took, but the Lord led me here
to be with you guys today.
So I appreciate you guys too, for at least hearing us.
Yeah, I can see that you were very
passionate about it, you know?
Yes. And, you know, as you were a patient.
No, I take pride in this. I take pride in everything I do.
Yeah. So, I have a question.
Um, as you mentioned in your earlier speech
that our subscription will be six to 8:00 PM right?
Yes. Six to 8:00 PM Yes. Okay.
So how will be your, uh, business transition?
Like a monthly subscriber or just a walk in
or any daily It's monthly subscriptions.
Monthly subscription, monthly
Subscriptions. Yes. And once we reach
a cap, that's it.
Until obviously one person leaves,
then we can get another person in.
Like I said, we want to do this for the community.
We wanna want, we do not want
be a nuisance to the community.
We want to, we do not want it to be overcrowded.
That's why I don't know about the various,
but I don't think we'll ever oversee the parking spaces.
Um, but I do think even if we have to,
I don't really wanna shrink it
because everything is perfect right now for, you know,
everything I put in my mind that I've dreamed of.
But with that being said,
I still think we should put the
bike racks for people in the community.
Oh, that's a good idea. That's a
Good idea. There might
be kids at, um, Fitzgerald that wants
to ride their bike to the gym in the summer.
I, I, I, I, I, I breathe fitness. I love fitness.
Um, I think more people need to get active, get up and move.
Um, and I think that's the problem
with us in today's society.
Um, we don't have enough pillars in the community
that cares about the community.
They say they do, but then we put liquor stores,
we put this, we put that.
And I don't mean to doubt anyone else
that's in here trying to push their business.
I agree with you. But, um, That's just me, you know?
And the Lord led me to be here and he led me to meet Megan.
And I don't know, I'm just, I can
Just, you did great job, job, trust me.
You took the eye to the right, right. Business. Thank you.
That, that's gonna help also community.
And my, my second, third question is like,
is gonna be group training or just a
individual personal training?
It's mostly going be group.
It's mostly gonna be personal training,
but three times a day I will host, uh, a group session,
which would not exceed more than six people.
Yeah. Group session can help community.
Lot of people, sometimes they can wanna come to the group.
Okay. And as our reducer mentioned, that you gonna have a,
um, we call therapy,
but for him we can put something different
like, you know, hydro massage.
We gonna have, you're gonna have a hydro system?
No, we won't have any of that.
It's more just personal training.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah, you can put one for him. Okay.
By the way, thank you so much.
Um, I got all the answer and welcome. Thank you.
That was your, as long
As we stay glued, Mr.
Chair free.
I think Mr. Commissioner Bki was next.
I, I just have a couple points.
Um, you mentioned
that you had the mostly re mostly bottle water bottles
and that, are you gonna recycle those? I hope
Yes, for Sure. Because more has to
Recycle. Yes, for sure.
And I think the bike rack is great,
especially that's where we're going.
We're putting bike lanes and we're trying to Yes.
Implement that. I think more people need
to just move. Yeah. Just
Move. I
Agree. Even if it's just riding a
bike or walking, you know,
everybody don't have to come work out.
Even if it's just going to the mall and walking at the mall.
I just, I'm just, I'm a firm believer in just
moving out, move your body.
We don't want to get too old to the point
where we can't move and we take advantage.
We take really, we, we need to take advantage of that
because most people don't.
I agree. I'm an LA and a Planet Fitness
member, so I agree with that.
Michelle, I have a question for you please.
Because they were mentioning they're not
gonna use the trash bin.
Yes. Will that change their performance bond?
Well, I guess 'cause that does, um, I have a cost to it,
um, creating that, so, well, I mean, I suppose if we want
to reduce it, um, from the amount we asked
for the 12,000 to be posted, I mean, if we reduced it
to like, you know, somewhere between eight to 10.
I mean, I would say it's up to the planning commission,
but I'd say reducing it, that would be fine. Alright.
Thank you. Mm-hmm. I think this is also a really
good business coming to Warren.
Thank you. Mm-hmm. Thank you Mr. Hawk.
Mr. Chair, I would like to, uh, first of all, I would like
to give you a thanks because I know the community very well
and I, I don't see any, any neighbor from here.
So they're very happy. Look like they're not complaining,
but I'm asking, um,
are you guys playing any loud music outside or
No? Uh, that's like
one of the things
that we're gonna be mindful of.
Um, I'm not gonna sit here up here and lie to you guys.
We will have music, but we will be mindful at all times.
Um, we just, we are gonna be mindful
and we are not gonna hook up systems like
this where it can get too loud.
We all, we have speakers that we will take in there, um,
and it'll be enclosed.
Um, like I said, we, we, we, we going,
we wanna put the community first.
Everything we do, we want to put, even
with the bike racks, it's about the community.
Um, the,
everything we're doing is literally for the community.
So we don't want to be a nuisance in any, any way possible.
I'm talking about from parking to the noise, to the people,
to anything.
Like, we just do not want to be a nuisance.
So I don't, the music will not be a problem.
We will have music, but it will not be loud.
Um, like I said, we plan on having speakers.
Um, we are already, you see, we are already a lot
of money into this.
So a a, a sound system probably is not even in the picture.
But, um, like I said, we plan on just having speakers.
We will keep it at a minimum.
We don't want no tickets either.
So, um, we don't want no complaints
and we wanna make the community happy.
Um, we also wanna do something for the community.
Um, I don't know if it's permitted to go door to door,
you know, let these people know
or put something on their door to let them know like, Hey,
if you guys come to our, our gym,
this is what we offer to you.
Maybe a discount, maybe something just from being like in
that radius of the community.
Um, but no, I don't think music will be a problem.
We will have it, but it will be more so speakers
that we bringing in, um, we will keep them there,
but we're not getting like 10 speakers hooked up so we,
they can be blaring out into the neighborhood.
Like I said for the last time, for the upteen time,
we do not wanna be a nuisance to the community,
and we just wanna be pillars of the community.
Thank you. And, um, how long is it gonna be take
to finish your project, do you think?
Um, I think once we get approved that we can start,
I mean, anywhere from, I'm thinking let's,
I'm hypothetically speaking, so let's say anywhere from six
to eight, nine months.
Uh, so that's what, no hiccups in a row.
Like you said, we might still have to go through a variance,
so we can't even get started today
or tomorrow, even if we wanted to.
Uh, so once the various, I'm
thinking we're, we're ready to go.
We've been eager to get this going for a while now.
Um, so once we get the go ahead, it's basically,
it is a time game on the variance if we get
approved for the variance or not.
Thank you. You have a good luck.
We are also paying for everything cash,
so we are ready to go.
Oh, our building is going up in six, or our building.
People say it's gonna go up in six uh, weeks, so as soon
as we finish all the paperwork, we're hoping
it's gonna be soon around summertime.
Yes. Hoping everything will be smooth. Thank you.
Yeah, because I, I drive by, uh, almost every day,
three, four times a day.
Oh, there, yes. It's very nice area. Yes.
There is no other gym I think in, in this area. No.
So the community will be benefited? Yes. Yes. Thank you,
Mr. Chairman.
Uh, finished. Uh, okay, go ahead.
I'd like to amend my motion to lower the
bond to 8,000.
Okay. Do have a support on that
Second?
Uh, that was, I, I am seconding. I agree with that.
Okay. To amend the motion to lower the bond to $8,000.
Yes. Okay. Alright. Anyone else?
Good evening. Good evening.
Sounds like you've got a good plan. Thank you.
Sounds like you're on top of everything.
It'd be exciting to see it. I come by and visit. Please do.
I'm, because my wife says I'm one of those people
that don't like to work out. So you like
Used to play something back in the day?
Nah, you can't fool me.
Anyway, we gonna say good luck with your project. Thank you.
God bless you. God bless you.
Also, uh, there was a motion by Commissioner Zey,
supported by Commissioner Instar. Roll call
Commissioner Zey.
Uh, yes. Commissioner Anser. Yes. Commissioner Haldi.
Yes. Most definitely. And
you'll be probably seeing me there.
Commissioner Hawk. Yes. Commissioner Morey votes. Yes.
Commissioner Beki? Yes. Commissioner Smith.
Yes. And good luck with your project. Have a good evening.
Thank you.
Item number six D,
Item number 60, site plan for the addition of open storage
of semi trailers
and created mechanical equipment located on the southeast
corner of Nine Mile Road and Becker Avenue.
1, 2, 3, 5 0 9 mile Road, section 35.
Anthony Valley and ix, um, mile Road,
or nine Mile Road, LLC, Ron Vander, Mullen and Young Supply.
PS P 2 6 0 0 0 5. Thank you.
Thank you ma'am. Secretary
is the petitioner here this evening.
Good evening, sir. Can you
tell us a little bit about your project?
Yes. Hi, I'm Jeffrey Graham, project architect.
Um, the gentleman that, uh,
he represents young, uh, supply company.
They've been around for a while.
Uh, they have a very large fact, uh, warehouse
where they sell, uh, mechanical, uh, uh, equipment.
And, um, and what they've done is that they, when they,
they've only built walk.
They've been in business for many years,
but this is the, the second
year they've owned this building.
They were unaware when they moved in that they needed
to get a, uh, open storage,
um, license.
The reason why was
because they didn't think they ever needed that.
The, uh, factory was huge. It was a huge investment.
It was a lot bigger than their old building was,
but they're doing so well that they filled it up.
And now they need to store some things outside,
some mechanical equipment, things that you would find
outside anyway, like rooftop units and et cetera.
Um, what we, what we wanted to do basically is to make sure
that we're, that we're, we're in
compliance with what you've asked.
We've been talking and meeting with the planning commission,
uh, planning department.
Um, they've given the recommendations,
we've looked at the recommendations,
and we have no, no issue with any one of them.
Um, so we'd like to move forward. Thank you.
Thank you, sir. Uh, planning department's recommendation
Of correspondence of Correspondence.
Okay, getting ahead of myself here.
Correspondence, taxes, current building,
no effect on building operations engineering.
Preliminary review
of this site indicates no difficulty in development.
Police, the Warren Police Department does not foresee any
issues for the addition of open storage.
At and t at
and t does not object
to the proposed plans for open storage.
We do have facilities serving them, serving the building
and the property, but they should not be affected.
Comcast, we have no conflicts with this proposal.
D-T-E-D-T-E Electric Company has received
and reviewed the site plan for addition of open storage
of semi semi trailers and created mechanical equipment.
DTE Electric Company has no objection to the site plan
for addition of open storage of semi trailers
and created mechanical equipment in impacting 1 2 3 5 0
East nine mile road.
We're in Michigan, 4 8 0 8 9 section 35
per the site plan provided.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate
to contact me at
5 8 6 7 8 3 1 9 7 8
MCPW, the Macomb County Public Works office.
MCPW has reviewed the site plan for the project reference
above and has determined the proposed site disturbance is
less than one acre
and will not require a storm water review from this office
prior to construction.
A soil erosion permit will be required from this office.
Contact our Soil Soil erosion Department at
5 8 6 4 6 9 5 3 2 7
for more information regarding same.
If no objection letter is required,
please forward your request
to Wesley dot don@mccombgov.org. Thank you.
Thanks, mad secretary.
Now, planning department's recommendation
Is recommended that the site plan for the addition
of open storage of semi trailers
and created mechanical equipment be approved
with the standard conditions of the planning commission
and more specifically, number one, five copies
of revised site plan shall be submitted
indicating the following.
One A, the zoning line of the M two
and M three districts shall be indicated on the site plan
measuring 300 feet south of the 60 foot right of way,
a line was provided at 250 feet south of the 60 foot right
of way and shall be removed.
One BA 25 foot wide front setback line
for the M two district is incorrectly indicated.
The front setback line shall be 50 feet
and corrected on the plan.
The 25 foot setback shall be changed in the site data chart.
Two 50 feet setback. One C.
The parking space requirement in the site data chart should
be corrected as follows.
Number one, required parking is calculated
at one parking space per 1200 square feet.
The required parking spaces are a total of 175 C two.
The provided parking spaces were counted by the staff
to equal 110 spaces, not 88 spaces
as indicated in the site data chart.
C3, remove the parking surplus of 71 spaces C four.
The petitioner shall obtain a variance for 65 parking spaces
indicate in the, indicate this in the site data chart,
then 1D the driveway shall be dimension
with the width measured at the property line and the radi I
provided one EA landscape plan
or landscaping on the site plan shall
be indicated as follows.
E one, all existing landscaping shall be indicated.
This includes the type and size of the plantings.
E two for additional deciduous trees measuring three inch
caliper in size shall be planted centered
between the sidewalk and the street curb along nine mile
road and between the west driveway
and the west property line.
Becker Avenue, the tree shall be equally spaced 36
feet between each other.
Number three, four additional deciduous
or counter for trees measuring.
Three inch caliper in size shall be planted centered on the
front setback area between the sidewalk
and the north edge of the existing parking lot
and between the west driveway and the west property line.
The tree shall be equally spaced 36 feet between each other.
Number four, a pond is indicated
between the east property line
and the east side of the building.
If the pond is used as either a retention
or detention pond, it shall be labeled
FA trash enclosure must be
provided on the site with the following notes
stating a trash enclosure.
Measuring a minimum of 10 feet
by 10 feet shall be constructed.
A six foot high brick
and boss poured concrete walls with 45 degree angle cap,
have screen gates and be placed upon a minimum
10 feet by 18 feet.
Concrete pad that provides an eight foot wide apron masonry
block shall not be used as a construction material.
And number two, the survey indicates the north property
line, the center line, the center of nine mile road.
The property description indicates the roadway as 33 feet
half width right of way.
The owner shall deed the north 60 feet
of the property to the city of Warren.
The petitioner shall contact the Public Service
Department to begin the process.
Copies of the submittals shall be
provided to the planning department.
Number three, the following variances may need
to be obtained from the zoning board of appeals prior
to the release of the site plan
to the building Division three A, the petitioner would need
to obtain a variance for 65 parking spaces.
Three B, the petitioner shall obtain a variance
for the parking area located in the northwest corner area,
setback only 33 feet required setback is 50 from the north
property line, which is nine mile road.
And number four, a performance bond in the amount
of $126 shall be posted according to the estimated cost
of $4,200 by the petitioner.
And the note states,
the planning staff believes the proposed bond amount is too
low, given the fact
that planting eight trees is part of the required improvements.
A new estimate shall be
provided closer to $33,500 resulting in a bond in the
amount of $1,000.
And that, um, ends the recommendation.
Thanks Ms. Michelle. You're welcome.
This is a public hearing. If anybody would like
to speak on this item, please come up, state your name
and address for the record and
you'll have three minutes to speak.
Hi, my name's Greg Lemer.
I live off of Nele Street 22 88 4.
I have only but one question, uh, hours operation
because the last place it was in there was running
24 hours before.
Is that gonna be what this is again?
That, that's your question, sir.
We'll, we'll, we'll bring it, you bring the question to us
and then we'll talk to the positioner about it.
Well, I was just wondering, what is the zoning you
and what is hours operation?
Well, the hours of operation the owner can tell you,
but it being, it's a heating and cooling facility.
It's not gonna be long hours of operation.
Okay. I was just, we'll find out
what his hours of operation is. I
Wasn't sure if they were just gonna have
semis coming all night long.
No, I don't think so on that. No. Okay. Thank you sir.
Okay. Did you state your name and address for the record?
I just did. Okay. Thank you. Yep. Okay.
Anyone else want to, okay.
Seeing now we'll turn it over to the commission
Chair. I make a
Motion to approve with discussion
Support. Maury,
I have a motion by Commissioner Hollow
support by Commissioner Maury.
Discussion.
Can the petitioner step forward please?
Good evening. Gentlemen, neighbor. Yep.
I I live around that area too and I like that gentleman too.
Um, I was concerned, I had that in my notes too.
What are the hours of operation gonna be?
When are the trucks gonna be going in and out?
S 7:00 AM to 7:00 PM Monday through Friday.
No weekends at no late nights? No weekends?
No, Because no, at one time near there STIs,
if you wanna call it right at night in Hoover.
Oh yeah. They built their new, that warehouse,
but of course they're not using it,
but they were pretty much operating almost 24 hours.
An average really could be a nuisance late at night. Yeah,
Absolutely. When we
looked at the building,
they were still in their reon. Yes.
Yeah. But then due
to what's happened in automotive industry, they,
they're not, it's not even operation now.
Yeah, they're gone. Yeah, they moved out. Yes.
For now. For Now. Yeah.
Okay. That was my, I
couldn't thank you. I yield the floor.
Anyone else like to speak on this
good evening to the petitioner?
I, I go to the young supply quite a few times.
I haven't been in a while, but I stopped in there.
Wouldn't say for one day, day when they first moved in there
and they hadn't really set it up yet.
Okay. So I, it's good to see that it's in our area
because normally I'd have to go downtown to Detroit
or go out to, um, there's one out off
of eight mile two I think.
So. I tried to have one
that's a little close by, so that's nice.
Um, do you have any questions about the bond or anything?
No, but we're fine with the bond. Yes. Okay.
Alright then. That was a motion
by Commissioner Hollow Wadi supported
by Commissioner Moy roll call
Commissioner Hollow Wadi.
I do have a question, though. Should I amend it
to increase the, in the bond
To A thousand to a thousand?
We, you can if you want,
but these already, we, I mentioned the bond to 'em.
Go ahead. If you feel you wanna
amend the bond. I, I make a motion
To amend the, the bond as recommended
by the planning department.
Okay. I support that.
Okay. All in favor? Aye.
Aye. Aye. Okay. Back to the petitioner.
Okay. Got a roll call?
Yep. Commissioner Hollow? Yes.
Sure. Commissioner Murray votes? Yes. Commissioner Ansar?
Yes. Commissioner Hawk? Yes. Commissioner Doe? Yes.
Commissioner Mor. Uh, commissioner Beki? Yes.
To approve Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To approve. Welcome to the area.
This would be a nice thank much
nice improvement to the area.
Have a good evening.
Yes. Okay. I'm number seven. Correspondence.
Seeing none. I Number eight, old business
Minor amendment to the site.
Plan for the addition
of three donation bins at the mosque located on the east
side of Ryan Road,
approximately 333.98 feet north
of Parent Avenue.
2 8 6 3 0. Ryan Road, section 17.
Steve Mustafa, El Truck, Iona,
PMA 2 6 0 0 0 1.
The minor amendment is for the addition
of three donation bins. Thank you.
Good evening, sir. You wanna
tell us a little bit about your project?
Yes. Uh, good evening commissioners.
Uh, my name is Steve Mustafa Al Turk.
I'm, I'm president of the Islamic Organization
of North America, Iona Mosque
and Learning Center on 12 and Ryan.
Okay. Thank you.
You wanna tell us a little bit what, what you want or?
Yes, sure. Uh, apparently this, uh, is an amendment
to a site plan that we have applied for the construction,
but those donation bins have nothing to do
with the construction site.
At any rate, the planning department wanted
to add it to that site.
That's fine. Uh, let me just explain the purpose
of these donation bins.
First of all, I understand and appreciate the city
after those individuals who are
installing bins for profit.
Uh, I understand it had become, uh, an issue for the city.
The bins we had, we had for many, many years.
The planning department or the state of Warren
or the uh, uh, uh, the zoning board did not, uh,
mind having hours about 15 years ago.
The only objection was it shouldn't be by the road.
We moved them to the back
and now all of a sudden we get, uh, you know, warnings
and we get letters that you need to remove them.
Uh, Mr. Frank from the building department even took us
to court and we still have a pending court date,
which was really between us ridiculous.
These are donation bins that are to benefit
the less fortunate ones they are.
But again, I understand, uh, why, uh,
Warren City is doing that.
We wanna maintain the city to be, you know, looking good,
et cetera, and not having others exploit, uh, these, uh,
in kind donations.
Anyhow, the purpose of these donation business
to serve our community by facilitating the collection
of gently used clothing and shoes for individuals
and families in need
for all donated items will be distributed
through the Man International,
a well established charitable organization based in Inkster,
Michigan, which provides humanitarian assistance,
social services,
and emergency aid to under
to underserved populations throughout southeast Michigan.
By the way, I know the sister that started
that organizations years ago.
They have a big warehouse there. I have been there.
It's similar to, um, uh, salvation Army.
The difference is anyone who needs
anything can go into the warehouse, pick up what they need,
clothing, otherwise for free.
So it, it, it's a, it's a great opportunity
for the undeserved, uh, population in southeast Michigan
to be, you know, looked after by ourselves.
Iona, which we don't get any money, uh, of rent, let's say
for those nation boxes.
At any rate, each proposed donation bin will occupy approx
approximately three square feet
and the bins will be placed in a location that does not
obstruct, uh, pedestrian walkways, parking areas, visibility
or traffic flow, uh, flow.
You can see it in the pictures.
They're way in the back of the building away from, uh,
the traffic, uh, the main road on Ryan.
We are committed to ensuring
that the bins are maintained in a clean, orderly,
and secure manner, and that collections occur regularly
to prevent overflow or nuisance conditions.
This initiative aligns with our organization's mission
of community service, social responsibility,
and support for those experiencing hardship.
We believe that the addition
of these donation bins will provide a meaningful benefit
to the broader Warren community while remaining fully
compliant with applicable zoning planning
and property maintenance requirements.
If you have any questions,
I'll be more than happy to answer. Thank you,
Sir. Correspondence,
correspondence,
Texas current building does not,
does not affect building operations engineering.
Preliminary review
of this site indicates no difficulty in development police.
The Warren Police Department does not foresee any issues
with the amen with the amended site plans,
although it might be wise of the business
to have security camera monitoring the donation bins in case
of vandalism at t at t does not object to this proposal.
We have facilities in the area,
but they should not be affected.
Comcast, Comcast does have facilities in the area,
but they're not in conflict with this proposal.
M-C-P-W-O, the Macomb County Public Works office,
M-C-P-W-O has reviewed the site plan
for the project reference above,
and has determined the proposed site disturbance is less
than one acre and will not require a stormwater
review from this office.
Prior to construction.
A soil erosion permit will be required from this office.
Contact our Soil Erosion Department at
5 8 6 4 6 9 5 3 2 7
for more information regarding same.
If a no objection letter is required,
please forward your request to Wesley dojo
and McComb gov.org. Thank you.
Thanks ma'am. Secretary, uh, I need a motion
to recognize this as a minor amendment
Motion to recognize as minor amendment Mor su
Support by an answer.
As a motion by Commissioner Moy. Support Commissioner Anza.
Roll call.
Commissioner Moy. I vote yes. Commissioner Anser? Yes.
Commissioner Hollow?
Yes. Commissioner Hawk? Yes. Commissioner Eyy? Yes.
Commissioner Beki?
Yes. Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To recognize this minor amendment.
Now I need a motion to, uh, for the amendment.
Recommendation for parties.
Motion to approve a discussion.
Hold it. Is that where we're at?
Need a recommendation? Paying department's
recommendation. Okay, thank you.
Is recommended that the site plan for a minor amendment
to the approved site plan for building addition
to the mosque for three donation bins be approved
with the standard conditions of the planning commission
and more specifically, number one, five copies
of revised site plans be submitted indicating the following.
A update the zoning on the site plan as follows.
R one C one Family residential district, that's lot nine P.
Parking district is the E 60 feet of lot 17, 18, 19,
and C one local business district.
That's the balance of the property.
Um, b the plan indicates that a variance is requested for 12
for a 12 foot four inch south setback.
However, it was granted by the zoning board
of appeals on April 12th, 2023.
Um, so just the plan should add all the
previously granted variances.
Um, so that could be up,
that should be updated on the site plan.
Uh, one C. Correct the total floor area.
It should read 20,729 gross floor
area 1D.
The site plan indicates there are 13 accessible spaces,
however, planning staff only identified
nine accessible spaces.
Update, update the plan accordingly.
One E Um, a note shall be
provided stating a lighting on the site shall be shielded
and not encroach upon abiding properties.
The light fixtures pull
and base shall be no higher than 20 feet
as measured from the top of the light fixture
to the bottom of the base.
At ground level, all glare shall be eliminated
from all light fixtures.
Upward directed lighting shall not be permitted.
F the landscaping indicated on the site plan appears the
same as the approved site plan from November 7th, 2022.
Update the site plan to include, include the landscaping key
provided on the site plan revision date,
January 24th, 2020 3G dimension.
The clothing storage bins
and feet rather than inches include the total square footage
for each bin and the total for all three bins,
which you just, you did say they're three square feet each.
So we do know that. Just add that to the site plan.
Uh, one h provided dimension between the clothing bins
and the surrounding buildings.
And number two, the following variance may need
to be obtained from the zoning board of appeals prior
to the release of the site plan to the building division.
And that's to allow storage
of the clothing bins in a C one business business district.
So the storage bins are considered storage now.
Um, and so that's where the variance, that's the variance
that would be required if approved.
The variance shall be added to the revised site plan.
And number three, a cash bond in the amount
of 22,500 was posted on October 30th, 2023.
This bond will continue to be held
until the petitioner notifies
staff the building edition project.
And that project number is PSP 2 2 0 0 4 3 is complete.
The request to add clothing bills will not
require an additional bond.
And this ends the recommendation. Thanks,
Ms. Michelle.
Now I need a motion for the
Motion to approve a discussion
Support by an answer.
There's a motion by Commissioner Benecke,
supported by Commissioner Ansar. Discussion
Chair. Go ahead.
Good evening.
I, I live right by you, so I'm very familiar with your place
and I think this is a great idea.
I think everybody needs help.
I know, um, the city's been frowning a little bit on 'em
because they've been putting stuff all over.
Just leaving, leaving trash, being how your building is
and how you have a gate and
how I think you keep your place up.
I don't think that's an issue, but I never noticed when,
if the gates are locked
or shut, do you have an hours where your gates are closed?
Well, the, mainly the, uh, bins are for our community,
so no one knows from, nobody knows outside
of our community Okay.
About those bins.
So only those who attend our congregation, typically,
I'd say 99% of them bring enclosed Okay.
Into those bins. It's strictly for our community.
Okay. Alright. That's fair. And um, yeah. Thank you.
Oh, You're welcome. Thank you. Commissioner. Yes, Mr.
Chair. Commissioner Ha, go
Ahead.
I would like to ask him. Okay. Go ahead. Yes.
Uh, thank you, Imam, to bring a very important, uh,
things here today and we're, we're really appreciated.
Okay. So how many bins total?
We have three bins total.
Uh, if you wanna bring in the pictures up there
again, if you don't mind.
Uh, you could see the pictures very professional.
Uh, you know, I mean, you can see 'em in the pictures.
Uh, very durable. I mean, to code.
They're made for that purpose.
So all, like all three bin are for same materials or
Is it different? Yes, same thing. Yeah,
all three.
Actually, the, uh, response was
so overwhelming from our community.
We started with one and then we added another one, uh,
because as the sister was mentioning, you know, putting, uh,
stuff around the, uh, bin.
So we needed to add, uh, more to accommodate the community.
So now, uh, we collect more, uh,
in kind donations of clothings and shoes. Yeah.
Yes. Um, thank you.
Uh, these beans are actually, um, I know,
I know the area very well where the beans are located.
It's not visible from the like road.
No. And Way they are. Yeah.
They are keep maintaining very well.
So hopefully they will continue to do that
and community will be benefited.
Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Yes.
Behind, behind that, uh, dumpster actually,
and the very back of the building
behind the soup kitchen, actually.
Yes. Right behind the soup kitchen.
Yes. Building it is not blocking that traffic, right?
No, no, no. Not at all. Not the parking lot, right?
Nothing. Yeah.
You can see it in the upper right hand corner. Yeah.
Yep. Thank you, sir. Um, Mr.
Chair was, nobody said, okay. Go ahead, commissioner.
Sorry. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Uh, thank you.
Um, IAM, and you had a chance
to review all the recommendation.
What's That? You had a chance
to review all the recommendation.
The recommendation, yes. I do have one objection.
I'll take it up with the department of Planning
regarding the variance from the,
Yeah, that's what I was From, from the zoning.
I don't need no variance for this. I mean, come on.
What do I need? Variance for three bins over there.
We already have a variance, uh, for the mosque
that we obtained back in 2007.
Unless it, it's a may need.
If you read it correctly, it say may need.
So I'll take that up with the zoning board.
It may not. I don't know.
Um, I see that, uh, number three,
recommendation number three A is
asking for recomme recommendation.
B,
Recommend the plan.
Uh, which one?
Number three. B. There's no three B oh, three B. Yes.
In the second piece, where Is it? Yeah. Three B
No, only Three. No,
Three B, no, there is no three B
and the recommendations. Oh,
I missed, no, these are findings.
Yeah. Okay. Okay. This is three
One B Maybe. Oh, so I messed it up.
Maybe one B Oh, sorry. My bad, my bad. I, the findings?
Yeah.
Or maybe number three. A cash one. I don't know.
I mean, everything else is just cosmetics.
I guess just update the site plan to include, uh,
the recommendations, which is fine.
We have no issues with that.
Okay. Okay. I know, I, I messed it up. Thank, thank you.
Thank you for giving opportunity.
And, uh, I think it is needed. Uh, beans.
I, I, I've been to mosque always, and,
and I think it's very needed for the community
as most of the community.
People when goes to mosque, they want to donate all their,
um, old clothes, so it'll be more easier for the community.
So if they can get
that beans there when they're coming out from the mosque
or going to the mosque, they can donate their
unusable clothes and that can help the needy people.
Exactly. It's a good initiative.
And I think, you know, uh,
it'll be very beneficial. And I'm gonna,
Had it not been for a good cause, believe me,
I would not go through the trouble.
My time is, as, you know, as a, uh, uh, uh, commissioners,
as a pastor, as an imam, you, you know, I had to skip our,
uh, night prayers to be here tonight, if you know
what I mean, A congregation. But that's okay.
I don't think you do, you do have
to come back again for that same reason.
We'll make it easy. Thank you.
It's all good. Thank you.
Any other commissioner have anything to say?
Mr. Chair, if I may?
Go ahead. Commissioner Ma, go ahead. Um,
So I have a quick question.
When was the fund, uh, first bin installed
When? Yes.
Oh, about maybe 12 years ago. 15 years ago.
It was on the, uh, on the site of the construction today.
Used to be parking lot by Ryan Road.
And then we got a notice from the state of Warren.
This is before it became, uh, official thing that you have
to apply and whatever.
Uh, so, uh, we got a notice to say, uh,
please remove it from, you know, the road.
We put it behind the building.
And, uh, it stayed there for a while.
Then we decided
because of the demand, when we added two other bins,
we decided to put it, uh, behind the soup kitchen, uh, right
behind the dumpster, uh, which is easier for everyone to,
you know, drive by
and, uh, donate their items into the bins.
Mm-hmm. But yeah, we've had that for a long time.
When was the last two?
So when the demand increased,
when was the last two added then? The
Last two maybe in the last, uh, few years.
Couple of years. Three years.
Okay. Um, and then you recently are going with the trouble
that you, with the city since when,
Uh, I'll tell you when, uh,
since I would say six months ago
or so, when,
when donation bins started popping up everywhere,
they even put some on our property, uh,
which we did not authorize.
And we had to call them and say, please remove them.
And later we learned
that those were not, not for profit.
They were, they were, you know, like I said,
playing on the emotions of the people, getting the donations
and then collecting them from different areas in different
cities, shipping them in containers to third world countries
and making money off of them.
So I understand why Warren is doing that. Mm-hmm.
Okay. And that's why we're trying to comply as much
as we can and, and make sure that
we're doing everything, you know?
Yes. Thank you to the satisfaction of the city.
Thank you for that. Um, so since there's a lot of demand,
how often are the bins, uh, bank?
Every week, every Monday, every week,
every Monday they come and empty.
And believe me, uh, from, uh, uh, what I hear from,
uh, uh, Ray Malad, who is the manager over there,
unfortunately he could not be with me today, Ray Malad.
Uh, they buried his brother today.
So they had a funeral and could not be present with me.
At any rate, uh, uh, he says,
of all the donation boxes, this is why we added another two.
They get the most out of our community.
So our community, I'm grateful that it is very generous,
very charitable, and we're serving a cause. Mm-hmm.
Thank you. Thank you so much.
I don't have any other questions.
Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? Good evening, sir.
I know you've come before so many things before.
I know. It's good to see you again.
Good seeing you again. I
Like your, I like the donation boxes
that you've got back there, and I really appreciate
what you're doing with the clothing that you're collecting
and things like that in this time, in, in time of
what's going on in the world.
I know It's a very, very important
thing to do for people.
Well, thank you so much. We appreciate
You wanted to let you know how much we appreciate that.
So that was a motion by Commissioner Beki,
support by Commissioner Anza.
Roll call
Commissioner Beki.
Yes. To approve Commissioner Anza. Yes.
To approve Commissioner Hollow. Yes.
To approve Commissioner Hawk. Yes.
To approve Commissioner dse. Yes.
To approve Commissioner more votes. Yes. Commissioner Smith.
Yes. To approve. Good luck with your project, sir.
Thank you. May I make a recommendation
to the planning department?
Uh, please make this, uh, fee free
for non-profit organizations, if you know what I mean.
The $500 fee we paid, we paid. That's okay.
But as you know, our houses
of worship survive on the nickels
and dimes we receive from the community.
So maybe for, uh, churches boss,
nonprofit organization, you can levy or waive the fee.
We would appreciate that. It's a recommendation.
Take or leave it. Thank
You. Thank you, sir. Have
a good evening.
Thank you. Take that.
I'm number nine. Bond release. Seeing none. I number 10.
New bus, new business. Seeing none. I'm number 11.
Citizen participation.
Does anyone like to speak on any items?
Come up, state your name and address for the record
and you'll have three minutes to speak.
Seeing none. Item number 12,
planning commission Business 12.
A discussion regarding open government ordinances.
In your packet, you'll find the ordinance
that was adopted, um, actually going back
to 2023, I believe.
Um, the attorney, Michaels could probably confirm that.
Um, we're just giving this to you for informational purposes
and also to let the commission know that, um,
we've updated our website, the City
of Warm Planning Commission officers, the term,
the term expiration dates
that's on has been updated on our website to comply
with this, this ordinance.
Um, but if there's anything else the attorney would like
to add about the ordinance, um,
but it was brought up recently, so we just wanted
to make sure everyone had a copy of it.
Um, but it's also, um, online for everyone to get to.
Thanks. And Michelle,
Ms. Michael, so you wanna say anything? I, I
Just very brief. I mean,
I'd like to see counsel I know is very concerned
that commissions, um, comply more steadfastly
to the specific, excuse me, specifics of the ordinance.
Um, the way it's written right now, it's pretty much,
it can't be a one size, it's a one size fits all,
but we have to have common sense
because the packet would be provided on the website.
And that's very good for, for transparency.
But when certain commissions harbor proprietary information,
like site plans, obviously we're going
to be very judicious about what is posted online
before the commission meetings.
But it also provides proposed minutes, have to be, um,
posted and if approved minutes.
So it's very good going forward for transparency.
In fact, I have a meeting tomorrow
with the city clerk discussing logistics on how she's going
to centralize all of this information
and transport it to the, um, communications department.
It's a big undertaking,
but I just want you to know that agenda backup is also
required to be posted
and with this commission you deal
with proprietary information.
So we'll make sure that whatever can't be public,
whatever could expose the city
to liability will be protected.
Okay. Okay.
Does anybody have any questions for Ms. Michels?
Mr. Chair? If I may, go ahead.
Um, so I have a, maybe a clarification that's more for me.
So I know a lot of times we get, um,
when sensitive topic comes up, right?
So we get a lot of crowds and then they come up
and they're like, oh, we didn't get any
of these informations to review
before coming into the meeting.
So, um, you just mentioned about the site plan.
So what are the informations that we will be giving
to the public or when will those information be available
to public before?
'cause we usually get our packets two,
three days before the meeting.
Right? So when would the, the information be even available
for public to review and come to the meeting
and ask some specific questions?
Okay. Go ahead. I'll be talking to Mr. Wirth and Ms.
Catadi about logistics
because obviously the findings are prepared Friday.
Well, they're distributed Friday before the meetings.
So, we'll, we will work with the planning department
so things aren't disruptive,
but the public will receive most of
what this commission receives,
So they'll be receiving.
So I actually maybe,
so we're gonna have more details about
this as it moves forward.
Yes. I'd like to talk to Mr. Wirth. Mm-hmm.
First planning, very concerned about planning
because of the nature of what this commission deals with.
Yes. So, like I said, it, it cannot be a one size fits all.
We want to be transparent,
but still honor the parameters of the law.
Mm-hmm. The other laws, privacy laws, proprietary laws.
Yes. Okay. Thank you. Yes, thank you.
You welcome. Anyone else have questions for attorney Ms.
Michaels? Okay. Alright.
Uh, I would like to have a motion to receive and file this
Chair. Make
a motion to receive and file
Support Maury A Motion by Commissioner Hollow,
supported by Commissioner Maury.
All in favor A. Aye. Any opposed?
Item B Planning Director's report.
Okay. Good evening again.
Um, so since the last planning commission meeting on
January 26th, that we've continued to stay, um, busy in the,
the department and the 28th of this month, we met with,
well, actually last month we met with potential applicants
for a lot split near 11 mile Inberg.
Um, we also met with the representative
and owner that was here tonight
for the project at 2 1 7 3 0 Shaner.
Um, so we did meet with him
before they came back to make sure we could move forward
with that site plan regarding the wall and everything.
Um, so on January 30th, um,
I attended a Green Macomb meeting.
And at that meeting, the representative from um,
Macomb County Department
of Roads ex explained their landscaping policy
in the county right of ways.
And also there was a representative from the Department
of Natural Resources, well,
Michigan Department of Natural Resources.
And they provide an update that they recently released,
a Michigan Community Tree Species Selection Guide.
And both of those, those guides are available online.
So a lot of new information recently out regarding trees.
Um, they also announced
that there's an Arbor Day Tree and Plant sale.
So if anyone's interested in purchasing trees
or more information, you can visit green mccomb.com.
And also we continue to meet internally
to work on the overlay districts
that were presented at the joint meeting.
Uh, hunter Manus, the economic development technician,
is the designated staff person
that will be bringing this ordinance forward
on behalf of the city.
And the draft document has been
provided to the attorney's office where it,
it will be put in the form
before it's brought to the planning commission
for a recommendation to city council.
So I anticipate that'd probably be here in a, maybe a few,
a few meetings from now potentially.
Um, and so we've also had an internal meeting
regarding the zoning ordinance,
and we're continuing to review the draft document
that we were provided, um, from Beckett and Rader.
And so we're continuing to work through that
and meet, uh, monthly.
And so this ends the report.
If you have any questions, please let me know.
Thanks Michelle. Anybody have any questions?
I got one thought I wanted to bring up.
Uh, on the overlay project we went to,
and I had in our meeting, I got to thinking how is
that going to affect our green space in those areas?
Well, for the missing middle, I mean,
when you say green space, it's really,
if there's vacant land, the idea was that that's buildable
for a home, right.
So, but it wouldn't have, there would still be, um,
a lot coverage requirement.
So in the way the draft is written for the lot for it be,
you can cover 40% of the property and like a home
or, you know, a structure,
but it wouldn't affect any, you know, there'd still be
the, you know, in the right of way,
like probably lawn if the,
if it's like that on the, the street.
But, um, is there a specific question that
Is have, I was just wondering if it, if we still have the
required green space for each, each project,
because you're building,
you're taking away green space to build houses.
Well, the missing middle one is specifically
for like infill development.
So you're not gonna see most likely a lot
of vacant parcels right next to each other.
It's probably gonna be like a vacant lot here,
a vacant lot there within that,
um, southern part of the city.
And then also extending east, um, so south of Stevens
and then going east.
Um, but it's primarily infill development. Okay.
So I don't think it's gonna be like a big area,
typically altogether it's gonna be trying
to fill in those vacant lots with, with homes,
if that answers your question.
Yeah. Thank you Ms. Michelle. Okay.
Anybody else have questions for Ms. Michelle?
I have Mr. Chair. I may Go ahead. Turn your mic on.
Thank you. Um, I wanted
to ask actually maybe two questions.
Um, so we don't consider the fees
for the nonprofit organizations
or they're required to pay the same amount of fee
as uh, all. Is it, is it the same?
We don't have any special provisions in our department.
I don't know if that's something
that any other department does
or if that's something that maybe the, uh, attorney can,
um, speak to.
I don't know if that would be
something from the council level.
I'm not sure how that works.
We'd have to look, we could look into that. Okay.
And it'd have, it would have to be equally applied. Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Probably set by ordinance or rule or bylaw.
Yeah. I, I would definitely be interested in, uh, for us
to find out because if we are considering on going
to all the different churches, mosque,
and all these other religious facilities that exist in Wern
and for the bins that's been there for, for
before like for a very long time, for decades.
And we're gonna go and charge them like, you know, hundreds
of dollars to even have the bins
that's benefiting the society.
Um, I think we should consider this.
If I may, I'd like to look into the origin of these fees.
Mm-hmm. I'm not sure if it's by council resolution,
but I'll look into that. Okay. Yes.
Thanks. I'd be interested.
Um, and other thing I wanted to let the commission know is
that I will be out of country on April 20th,
which is two months, more than two months out.
But I will not be able to attend that meeting, so,
Alright. Thank you.
Okay. Thank you. That's it.
Okay. Um, I am number 12 C,
planning, commission, discussion and concerns.
Anybody? No, I'm number 13.
Calendar pending matters. Seeing none. I number 14, adjourn.
Need a motion to adjourn? Mr.
Chairman, I'll make a motion that we adjourn
Chair. I second. That
motion has a motion
by Commissioner Es, supported by Commissioner Hollow.
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
Have a good evening everyone.