Good evening.
Welcome to the City Warren Planning Commission Meeting.
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of Allegiance. Allegiance
To the flag of the United States of America,
and to the republic, which it stands, one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Alright, here we go. Roll call.
Commissioner Ansar. Commissioner Hall
Present. Commissioner
Hawk Present. Commissioner Dee Present.
Commissioner Maurice Present. Commissioner Beki.
Commissioner Smith.
Present a need a motion to excuse Commissioner dse.
I mean not Commissioner Beki and Commissioner Ansar.
I No.
Chair. I make a motion to excuse, uh, Beki
and Commissioner Sharp.
I support it. Does the motion
by Commissioner Awadi support me.
Commissioner Hawk. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
I need a motion to approve the agenda. Item number four.
So moved. Mr. Chairman Chair, I support
Does the motion by Commissioner Ddue, support
by Commissioner Hollow Wadi.
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed?
Approval of the minutes of February 23rd, 2026.
Motion to approve Maury I support it
There. The motion by Commissioner
Warrie. Supported by Mr. Hulk.
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed Public hearing? Aye.
Public hearing items number six. A
Six. A site plan
for for the open storage of pallets
and two shipping containers to store sheet metal powers
and metal tubbing located on the north side of 10 MA Road,
approximately 1 91 feet west of Burnett Road.
1 4 2 1 9
and 1 4 2 0 1 10 Mile Road section 24,
Nancy Morrow, and American fan and blower.
Tom Joyce. C and American Blower supplier Inc.
PSP 2 6 0 0 0 6.
Postponed from February 23rd, 2026.
The petitioner request is that this item remain postponed
to April 20th, 2026.
Thank you. Thank
You Mr. Chairman. I'll
make a motion that we postpone this item
until April 20th.
Chair. I second. A motion
Has a motion by Commissioner Zay, supported
by Commissioner Hollow Wadi to postpone this item
to April 20th, 2026. Roll call.
Commissioner dse. Yes. Commissioner Hollow Wadi. Yes.
Commissioner Hawk? Yes. Commissioner Murray Votes. Yes.
Commissioner Smith? Yes.
To Mo to postpone to April 20th, 2026. Item six B.
Item six B, special land use for Asana
and cool cold plunge facility located in the east
northeast corner of Van D**e Avenue and 12 Mile Road.
8 3 3 3 12 Mile Road, section 10.
Thomas Petal and Senior Tech Plaza.
LLC Thomas Petal Junior Fire and Ice.
Uh, Plaza Ice Spa.
L-L-C-P-S-P-S-L 2 6 0 0 0 1. Thank you.
Good evening, sir. You wanna
tell us a little bit about your project?
Uh, press the button.
Press the button on the mic there. Try it now.
Hi, this is Tom Petzel. Okay. How's it going? Good.
Good evening. Yeah.
So a little description of the business.
Um, we'd offer, uh, contrast therapy.
So we'd have three saunas, um, mixture of a
quiet sauna and the other saunas you can talk in.
It'd be a communal thing.
So, uh, male and female, we'd have, uh, men's
and women's locker room
or separate locker rooms, um, where you get ready.
And then you have the saunas,
and then we'd have individual cold plunges
in a different section.
So you go sort of between the sauna and the cold plunges.
Um, and sort of that's, that's the overall business.
Uh, bookings would be handled on an app.
So if you become a member, uh, there'd be say, 10 slots open
that open up every 15 minutes.
Um, so every 15 minutes in theory, 10 people would come in
and 10 people would leave, uh, your booking, wouldn't you?
You couldn't be there for more than an hour.
Um, and that's sort of the, the, uh, business model.
And, uh, we'd have a, a full-time, uh,
person on site all the time, uh, checking people in and,
and, uh, you know, overseeing everyone and, and all that.
Thank you sir. Correspondence,
Correspondence, taxes, current building a building permit
slash plan review application will be required by,
by the building department for proposed scope
of work engineering.
Preliminary review of this site indicates
that planning commission approval should be contingent upon
the petitioner's compliance with the following condition.
Provide the legal description
and the parcel ID on plan police.
The Warren Police Department has reviewed the submitted plan
and does not foresee any issues at this time.
At and t at and t has facilities that serve the property,
but we do not expect to have any issues
with the proposed special land use, uh, request.
Comcast, uh, we have Ariel
and underground facilities in the area,
but we have no conflicts with the proposal.
D-T-E-D-T Electric Company has received
and reviewed the site plan for special land use for a sauna
and cold plunge facility and has no objection to the site.
Plan for special land use for Asana
and cold plunge facility impacting 8 3 3 3 12 MA
road section section 10 per the site plan provided.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate
to contact me at
5 8 6 7 8 3 1 9 7 8. Thank you.
Thanks ma'am. Secretary Planning
Department's recommendation
Is recommended that the special land use permit
for a sauna and cold plunge facility be approved
by the city council with standard commissions
of the planning commission
and more specifically, number one, 15 copies
of revised site plans shall be submitted
indicating the following.
One A indicate the height
of the existing building on the site plan one B,
update the site data chart to include the total number
of accessible parking spaces required per a DA
and the total number provided.
One C, remove the parking ratio
provided on the site plan 1D in the areas
where there are large gaps along the North property line
plant, additional evergreen trees,
there should be a tree planted approximately every 25 feet.
Measure center to center
one e provide a landscape legend indicating the type
of trees planted on the property.
One f When the original site plan was approved,
Bradford ped trees were part of the approval.
However, these trees are now on the invasive species list.
A note shall be added to the site plan stating
when a tree needs to be replaced,
the replacement tree shall be on the recommended tree list.
Some recommendations are Eastern Red Bud
or Shabo service Berry number two.
During the course of the review, it was discovered
that the planning commission currently holds two bonds
for Tech Plaza for past projects.
If the projects have been deemed to finish,
the petitioner shall submit a letter requesting the bond
inspection and the bonds to be released.
The two past projects are
two A PSP 1 8 0 0 6 8.
On November 19th, 2018, the Planning Commission voted
to approve the site plan for a building addition.
This was the fitness center to Tech Plaza
and two B, it's PMA 1 7 0 1 10.
On July 10th, 2017, the planning commission voted
to approve the second minor amendment
to the approved site plan for a retail shopping center.
The minor amendment was for changes to the shopping
center canopy.
And number three, the special land use permit should be
approved as the request meets
or exceeds the standards stated in section 22.14 B
one A through E and 22.14 B three A through C.
Number four, special land use permit approval
is obtained from City council.
The petitioner shall complete all conditions within a two
year period, or the approval
by city council shall be automatically revoked.
And number five, a performance bond in the amount
of $10,500 shall be posted according to the estimated cost
of $350,000 by the petitioner.
And we have a note that the planning staff recommends a bond
in the amount of $1,000 to cover the cost
of filling in the gaps along the North Tree line.
The estimated cost provided on the application includes
internal costs rather than external site improvements.
And this ends the recommendation.
Thank you Madam Michelle. You're welcome.
This is a public hearing.
If there's anyone that would like to come up
and speak on this item, please come up.
State your name and address for the record
and you'll have three minutes to speak.
Seeing none will turn over to the commission.
Mr. Chairman, I'll make a motion that we approve the,
uh, special land use for sauna and cold plunge facility
and, uh, get the bond down
to a thousand dollars per the recommendation of staff
Support. Maury
As a motion by Commissioner Ze
supported by Commissioner Morey.
Any discussion?
Chair? Go ahead. Can I have just a step forward please?
Good evening. Sounds like a very good idea to me.
I just have just a one quick question.
Uh, are you gonna have any medically trained people
or like a doctor available just in case, you know,
'cause people going from sun not to cold
or, you know, just in case somebody
has any medical problems.
Um, well, I, I don't believe so.
No, I don't see how we could have our receptionist
or onsite person, um, be trained.
But we'll definitely have a protocol in place if, uh,
to get the, you know, alert the proper authorities
or people in, in case of an issue or to arrest,
Not even trained like in basic CPR maybe.
Uh, that's, that's an option. I guess. I,
I would look into It, haven't really thought about it.
Okay. I yield the floor chair.
Thank you. Anyone else like to speak
Mr. Chair, if I may? Oh
yeah.
Um, so I seen the timing on your, um,
on the building is gonna be starting from 5:30 AM
to going all the way to 10:00 PM Is that correct?
Yeah, that's, that's the rough, like we're trying
to copy like a gym schedule.
Yes. Um, what do you,
so you're gonna have someone starting there,
like a receptionist from five 30 going all the way to 10?
Correct. Okay.
Um, so with the water, especially on the cold plunges, is
that gonna be changed every time someone gets in
or how is that gonna be refiled or what's that cost gonna
Look like? So, so there'll be individual
cold plunge machines
that will buy from a reputable company
and that will filter the water and cool it.
And I believe, uh, the water will be changed every two days,
but it'll be filtered and, and, and, you know, chlorinated
or I don't know if actually chlorine's what they use,
but it'll be, you know, safe and up to standards.
Okay. Okay then, um, yeah, I definitely look forward
to an wellness facility.
I think this is something that we don't have around here.
I've seen that you talked about the Ember, um, what is the,
uh, company that's in Min Minneapolis?
I believe so. I really look forward
to having something right here next to home. So
Yeah, the, uh, the company we're looking at buying the
cold plunges is called Blue Cube.
Okay. If you want any interest in looking at it.
Yeah, definitely. Thank you.
Thank you. Anyone else like to speak on this item?
Good evening, sir. Are these gonna be, uh,
dry saunas or wet saunas? These
Will be dry Saunas. Dry
saunas. Okay. Okay.
Um, I like the idea
and I think it's a good location
right next to the fitness gym.
Little added value to the fitness gym, I believe.
Um, I guess other than
that I don't really have any other questions.
So that was a motion by Commissioner Ze,
supported by Commissioner Morrie. Roll call.
Commissioner Zey? Yes. Commissioner Maori Botez.
Commissioner Hollow. Yes. Commissioner Hawk. Yes.
Commissioner Smith,
Yes. To approve and good
luck with your project.
Be looking forward to seeing it. Alright,
Thank you guys. Appreciate you guys.
Have a good evening. You too. I number six C
I'm number six C site plan for open storage
of vehicles located on the north side of eight Mile Road,
approximately 540 feet east of Fairfield Avenue.
1 3 1 9 1 3 1 9 5 8 mile section 35.
Andre Slansky, west UA Transport Inc.
Andrew Lansky, west UA Transport, Inc.
PSP 2 6 0 0 0 7. Thank you.
Thank you. Good evening, sir. Uh,
Good evening. Uh, my
name is Andre Slansky.
I'm the owner of the West U Transport.
We are operating 70 trucks over the roads.
All drivers, uh, stay on the road three or four weeks and
after they come on back, they park in trucks.
I want an extra parking for the front
of the building for the cars.
When they driver the living in the road, they park the,
their own, uh, cars
and make it more, yeah, this parking for the cars, uh,
when they put fence to secure the cars for the drivers
and they have a more space parking.
Parking trucks.
Okay. Thank you sir. Correspondence,
Correspondence, Texas current
building building has no issues.
Engineering preliminary review of this site indicates
that planning commission, commission approval should be
contingent upon the petitioner's compliance
with the following conditions.
Number one appears that vehicle traffic
for 1 3 1 2 5 East East eight Mile Road needs
to use the proposed parcel proper property
to park vehicles on the east side of building on
to 1 3 1 2 5 East eight Mile Road north of the truck.
Well, if so, ingress and egress East Bend must be
provided on the proposed parcel's property.
Number two, an easement must be
provided for that portion
of existing drive approach encroaching
onto the proposed parcel.
Number three, the
provided legal description doesn't match
with our existing records.
Number four, the proposed parking lot in the front should be
paved to greatly reduce the potential silt
and sediment going into the required storm sewer extension
to service the site to service the said lot Police.
The Warren Police Department has reviewed the submitted site
plan and does, does not foresee any issues at this time.
Comcast, we have no conflicts with this proposal.
D-T-E-D-T Electric Company has received
and reviewed the site plan for open storage of vehicles
and has no objection to the site plan for open storage
of vehicles impacting 1 3 1 9 5 8 mile section 35
per the site plan provided.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate
to contact me at
5 8 6 7 8 3 1 9 7 8
MCP.
The Macomb County Public Works office has reviewed the site
plan for the project reference above
and has determined the proposed site disturbance is less
than one acre and will not require a
stormwater review from this office.
If a no objection letter is required,
please forward your request
to Wesley dot john@mccombgov.org. Thank you.
Thanks ma'am. Secretary, um,
plain Department's recommendation.
Uh, thank you. Uh, Mr.
Chair recommendation is as follows, it is recommended
that the, uh, site plan for open storage of vehicles
and new parking lot, uh, be approved
with the standard conditions of the planning commission
and more specifically, number one, five copies
of revised site plans shall be submitted indicating
following one A.
The zoning item in the
site data chart shall be changed from MZ
M two and R one P to R one P one,
family Residential
and parking District in parentheses North
310 feet of the property.
And M two, the balance of the property
one B provide additional dimensions on the site plan
for the following, uh, the existing building,
the storage areas and between the building
and the storage areas.
Uh, one c per field check of the site.
The planning staff observed what appeared
to be an inoperable
and non-repairable junk trucks in the area
northeast of the building.
These vehicles shall be removed.
A note shall be
provided on the site plan stating
all junk vehicles shall be removed from the property.
1D per a field check of the, uh, site.
Uh, the planning staff observed trucks
and passenger vehicles parked
on the berm in the R one P zone portion
of the property within view of the rear yards
of the residential district's dwellings rather
along Sherman Avenue.
Okay. A note, uh, shall be
provided on the site plan stating the R one P zoned
portion of the property shall be landscaped
and will, uh, not have trucks
and passenger vehicles parked in the berm or,
or the landscaped areas.
One E uh, the site plans shall provide the layout of the
116,660 square foot
of truck and trailer parking.
The site plan from 2017 indicated
that there there would be 39 trucks in, in the area
behind the building on a asphalt mill milling
surface all within
the M two property.
The past plan also included 100 feet
of asphalt millings in the R one P zone.
For turnaround purposes only the remaining north
210 feet was
and, uh, shall include grass
and berm areas.
One f Uh, the liber page information pertaining
to the easements with the property to the west, uh,
shall be, uh, provided on the site plan.
Uh, the property description
provided on the site plan provides the following ending
statement subject to all easement easements of record.
Three easements for ingress
and egress are indicated on the survey
of the property as follows.
And that's number one.
Uh, i, a 37.5 foot
and I should have said wide ingress and egress easement.
And that's L 2 9 9 1, uh,
P 8 98
and L 36 53 P
1 71.
That was number one.
Number two a 20 foot wide, uh, ingress and egress.
And that's, uh, essentially the, the same,
the same, uh, recorded documents that I'll read it.
Uh, L 2 99 1, uh, P 8 98
and L 3 6 53 P 1 71.
And finally number three of 50 foot wide ingress
and egress easement.
And that's again, same thing L 2 99, 1
P 8 98,
and L 36 53
and P 1 71.
All three easements shall be indicated on the site plan
below the property description.
Okay, one, uh, g The 30 foot wide,
or excuse me, width of the driveway to, uh,
eight mile road shall be indicated on the plan.
Uh, one h uh,
five trees shall be planted 20 feet north of the sidewalk
and 25 feet apart,
starting 25 feet from the east flag post
and be indicated on the plan one eye.
The previous site plan indicated the following landscaping,
a 35 foot wide six foot high grass earth
berm along the north property line.
The berm will be
provided with one row of five foot high pine trees
and a second row of five foot high
AEs approximately centered on the top of the berm.
Then there would be a 150 foot,
uh, area of grass.
And then there would be a another 20 foot wide grass
berm, a four foot high.
It would be four foot high that would separate
the asphalt millings from the landscaped area.
Update the site plan
to include the previously approved landscape areas.
One JA 1.5 foot high rusted
pipe fence exists along the south property line,
along the sidewalk along eight mile road.
Uh, the pipe fence shall be removed
and noted on the site plan one K.
The a trash enclosure shall be
provided on the site with the following note stating
a trash enclosure measuring approximately 10 foot
by 10 foot shall be constructed
of six foot high brick embossed, uh, poured concrete walls
with a 45 degree angle cap, have screen gates
and be placed upon a minimum 10 foot by 18 foot concrete pad
that provides an eight wide apron.
Uh, masonry block shall not be used, uh,
as a construction material.
Two additional conditions are added to number one.
So number one L
and that is a chicken coop is identified,
located, joined, uh, to the
east side of the primary building.
All right. The chicken coop, um, uh, is a building addition.
It's also located in the east side yard,
actually east 20 foot wide side yard of the site.
Okay. The addition shall either be removed
or receive a variance to be retained, uh,
on the site as an addition.
And next is, uh, one M
and that is one catch basin.
And one manhole are located in the
asphalt driveway along the west side of the primary building
are both depressed at least four to six inches lower
than the surface grade of the driveway.
Damage to vehicles will happen.
I know about that, that's why I put it in there.
Both structures shall be raised to the surface grade
of the driveway and noted on the site plan.
Okay, now I'm, I'm going to, I created a new number two
as follows.
The front proposed parking area surfaced
with as asphalt filings shall be hard surfaced
with either asphalt or concrete.
Concrete curbing shall be
provided for the perimeter of the area.
A storm sewer system shall also be provided.
A late recommendation from the engineering
division was received.
And please see the, uh, provided, uh, recommendation,
however, and that's been, it was put into the, the,
uh, into the report.
And Secretary Maury read that that is engineering
and that is number four.
They require a parking lot.
Number three, the following variances may need
to be obtained from the zoning board of appeals, uh, prior
to the release of the site plan to the building division.
And that is a, a use variance to allow open storage
of trucks and trailers in an R one P zoning district.
Uh, b, to allow the additional
44,378 square feet of open storage.
Uh, that would be three c uh,
allow parking on a gravel surface.
Uh, and that's the area I was just, uh, speaking of.
If approved, the variances, uh, shall be added
to the revised site plan.
Condition number four, performance bond.
The amount of $306 shall be posted according
to the SMA cost of $10,200 by the petitioner.
There is a note, uh, planning staff believes
that the proposed bond is, uh, too low given the fact
that landscaping is a part of the project, a bond,
the amount of $1,000 shall be posted.
So with that, uh, Mr.
Chair, the recommendation is submitted. Thank
You. Thank you, Mr. Worth.
This is a public hearing.
If anybody would like to come up
and speak on this item, please come up.
State your name and address for the record,
and you'll have three minutes to speak.
Scene none. We'll turn over to the commission
Chair. I make a
motion to approve with discussion.
Support. Support. Maury,
There's a motion by Commissioner Hollow, supported
by Commissioner Maury. Discussion?
Yes. Thank you. Chair. Can the
commission step forward, please?
Good evening, sir. Okay.
You heard, uh, that, um,
recommendations from our planning department, uh,
especially like one thing I noted that there were some
old junk vehicles still stored there.
Are you planning having those removed? Yes.
Yes, sir. We planning as soon the weather
will be warmer up.
We're gonna be removed. I need
probably like two, three weeks.
Okay. Could taken maybe. Yeah.
Kind of hard if there's snow still in mud in back there.
And what about the, uh, fence that's along? Eight mile.
You gonna remove that fence?
You said there was a rusted pipe fence That's
Long. Oh, the, the
yellow one.
Uh, did this fence wants like 10 years
old on what this building?
10 years old. This was there.
So if you need to remove it, I'll remove it. Okay.
We just painted last year. It was,
Yeah, but see that's per our, our department.
Yeah. We can approve. He says he
that it needs to be removed.
Okay. Okay. Chair, I yield the floor.
Anyone else like to speak on this
item to the petitioner?
Good evening, sir. Excuse me. I know. Good evening.
Good evening. I noticed on the drawing, the,
the chicken coop was there.
And how many chickens do you have?
There's the, not the chicken. There's the pigeon.
I have a fancy pigeon. Uh, they not fly.
They still inside. Inside.
So you house pigeons in there? Yes. Yeah.
And what is the purpose of the pigeons?
Just for fun. Hobby.
Okay. Um, how big is this coop
that you have 'em in?
Probably like four feet by six feet.
Okay. Because normally any structure that's not
in the recommendation, it's on the drawing has to be,
uh, dimension
and has the purpose what's for and things like that.
Okay. Uh, are they paying any rent?
No. No. They're eating too much all the time. Hungry.
All right. Um, the one question I had
earlier was the millings in the front parking lot
and we were recommending on that to pave that.
Um, are you okay with that? Yes. Okay.
Um, I think that was all I had.
Does anyone else have anything? Okay.
And you know the trucks that are parked
and backed up on the berms, that that can't be.
And youre gonna have a second berm in from
the very back burn.
You have the back burn and then you have a second burn in.
That's to separate the two areas. Okay? Okay.
Any other questions? No,
Sir. Alright.
Okay.
That was a motion by Commissioner Hollow, supported
by Commissioner Maori roll call
Commissioner Hollow.
Yes. Commissioner Votes? Yes. Commissioner Hawk? Yes.
Commissioner Ze? Yes. Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To approve. Good luck with your project, sir.
Thank you. Have a good evening.
Uh, I think, uh, is that our ex official out there? We
Have both. We
Got both. Oh, both
of 'em out there.
Good evening, uh, Councilman Newman
and Councilwoman McGee.
Glad to see you this evening. Okay.
We're gonna to honor our commissioners who are on Ramadan.
We're gonna take a five minute break so they can break fast.
So I'm gonna set it's, uh, 7 32.
So we'll come back at about 7 37. All in favor? Aye.
Aye. Any opposed?
Oops.
So wait like two, three minutes to break it? Exactly.
But thank you. It's okay.
I didn't want get into the next item.
Okay.
As far as I know.
How are,
is that where you
Good evening.
We're gonna resume to our meeting
of the planning commission.
Item number six D,
Item number 60, site plan
for parking lot redevelopment and expansion.
New driveway approaches to Pinewood Street
and storage of two trailers with tire scrap materials.
Material located on the east side of Pinewood Street,
approximately 1050 feet north of nine Mile Road,
2 3, 5 0 0
and 2 3 4 2 0 Pinewood Street, section 29.
Anthony Grace and Motor City Rubber Company.
Joe Grace, Alma Tire Companies,
PSP 2 6 0 0 1 0. Thank you.
Thanks ma'am. Secretary? Good evening, sir. Good evening.
You wanna tell us a little bit about your project?
Yeah. Um, I'm Joe Grace. This is Mike Wilson.
We're here on behalf of Alma Tire.
Company's a a TS Fleet Division.
Um, we purchased this property
after it had sat empty for a number of years.
Um, we install our location here.
It is a commercial tire dealer.
Um, we do a little bit of service there,
mostly just taking tires in and out.
Um, in our proposed plan here.
Um, we just want to make some enhancements to the entrances,
the driveways, and a little bit of the parking lot there,
um, to make it easier for pulling trucks in and out
and potentially performing some service there as well.
Um, on the east side of the building, we have, um,
two slots for semi trailers.
Um, one is as noted storage for scrap tires.
As we get scrap tires, we put them into the semi truck,
the trailer, um, once that is full, we call a company,
they come and swap it out with a empty one.
Um, the other one would be for pickup
and deliveries from our distribution center.
And yeah, so just the south, the south entrance.
Um, potentially adding a second one, widening those, uh,
to facilitate easier ingress
and egress of semi drugs.
Okay. Thank you sir. Correspondence,
Correspondence, taxes current at t at t does not object
to the proposed parking slash driveway
and storage changes to this property.
At and t has facilities in the vicinity,
but they should not be affected.
Comcast, we have no conflicts with this proposal,
but we do have aerial facilities in the area.
M-C-P-W-O, Macomb County,
the Macomb County Public Works office.
M-C-P-W-O has reviewed the site plan
for the project reference above
and has determined the proposed site disturbance is less
than one acre and will not require a stormwater
review from this office.
M-C-P-W-L request is that the site be graded
before the proposed stone is placed on the property south
of the existing building.
Prior to construction,
a soil erosion permit may be required from this office.
Contact our soil erosion department at
5 8 6 4 6 9 5 3 2 7
for information regarding same.
If no objection letter is required,
please forward your request to Wesley dot John
and McComb gov.org.
Thank you.
Thank you. Uh, planning department's recommendation.
All right. Thank you Mr. Chair.
The recommendation is as follows.
It is recommended that this, no, excuse me, the site plan
for parking lot redevelopment
and expansion, new driveway approaches to Pinewood Street
and storage of, uh, two trailers with
tire scrap material be approved with the standard conditions
of the planning commission.
And more specifically, number one, five copies
of revised site plans shall be submitted indicating
following one a per a meeting with planning staff,
the petitioner indicated he may want
to construct a truck well on the east
elevation of the building.
This is not indicated on the site plan. Oops. On yeah.
On the site plan, the, uh,
petitioner shall indicate whether this is an at grade
truck dock or a depressed truck.
Well, one B per the meeting with the planning staff, uh,
the petitioner indicated the proposed concrete area
in front of the southeast corner of the building
where the overhead door is located will be the tire
servicing, uh, area labeled this area on the site plan
and indicate the limits of the service area,
how many trucks will be serviced at one time.
And a truck maneuvering diagram.
One c per meeting with the planning staff.
It was noted that this will be a tire repair facility
for commercial trucks.
Uh, if semi trucks and trailers or,
or tires are intended to be stored outdoor on this site.
This shall be indicated on the site plan
and the square footage, uh, included in the
site data chart.
Okay, Uh,
1D uh, update the site data chart to, uh,
include the height of the storage trailers,
the square footage of open storage,
and also the items to be stored in the trailers.
One e the northernmost existing driveway shall be increased
to a 25 foot to 25 feet in width.
One f indicate the width of all the driveways as measured
at the west property line.
That's Pinewood. Um,
now I'm gonna add a few things here.
One g, upon further review by the staff,
the fence along the entire front area
and the 25 feet along the west,
north, and south property lines shall be removed
and noted on the site plan
HI
Gotta Find H here.
Excuse me,
H is the same as, uh,
five A note one if you wanna look at it,
except I added something to it.
And that is, uh, nu note number one, per a meeting
with the uh, planning staff,
the petitioner indicated he may want
to construct a truck well on the east
elevation of the building.
This is not indicated on the site plan.
That's the petitioner shall indicate whether this is an at
grade truck dock or the depressed truck.
Well, currently the area east of the building
is a pond area with, uh, vegetation
planning staff was told recently that the area
had had, uh, 15 to 20 feet, uh,
of excavation of the depth of contaminated soil
removed as part of the re re ah,
remediation plan from Eagle of the state of Michigan.
Clean sod or clean sod, clean soil, uh,
was, uh, used to replace it.
The soil has depressed and that's creating the pond.
Excuse me. Uh, the pond shall be, uh, removed
and the, uh, area gRED, uh, for proper drainage of the site.
All.
Okay?
Okay. So number two, condition number two.
The two parcels identified as uh,
13 dash 29 dash 4 28 dash
0 0 9
and 0 0 1 shall be combined into one parent parcel.
An application shall be submitted to the planning department
requesting the approval of the combination
condition.
Number three, Eagle of the state
of Michigan regulates this property
with a restrictive covenant for a restricted
non-residential remedial action.
The city shall determine if any new
evaluations are needed for the proposed project.
As indicated in the restrictive covenant,
the petitioner shall provide the planning department
with the results of the determination,
eagle will be notified of the evaluation.
Here's a new number. Four, two copies
of a floor plan of the building shall be submitted
to the planning department to help
with the evaluation procedure, uh,
of the evaluation Condition.
Number five, the following variances may need
to be obtained from the zoning board of appeals prior
to the release of the site plan to the building division A
to allow open storage on gravel B
for the new gravel area proposed on lot 63.
And, uh, if approved, the variances shall be added, uh,
to the revised site plan.
Condition number six, uh, a performance bond, um,
excuse me, a performance bond.
The amount of $4,500 be posted according
to the estimated cost of $150,000 by the petitioner.
And so with that, uh, Mr.
Chair, the recommendation is submitted. Thank you.
Thank you Mr. Wirth. This is a public hearing.
If anyone would like to speak on this item, please come up,
state your name and address for the record
and you'll have three minutes to speak.
Seeing none will turn over to the commission
Chair. Make
a motion to approve with discussion.
I support it. Mr. Chair,
There's a motion by Commissioner Hollow, supported
by Commissioner Hulk. Go ahead.
Okay. Can the petitioner step forward please?
Good evening, gentlemen.
Good evening. Okay, one, one question.
What are your, uh, hours or operation gonna be?
8:00 AM to 5:00 PM Monday through Friday.
Oh, okay. So not too much disturbance there.
Uh, as you heard from our, uh,
department, you know, from Mr.
Wir, he made a few new recommendations.
Uh, do you have any problems with any
of those new recommendations?
What were the new ones? Removing the fence
and two copies of floor plans. Yeah.
And site. And that pond, that's,
you had a pond that's back there.
You mentioned, you mentioned a pond. There is a not Yes.
That it should be filled in,
Uh, soil.
Yeah. You guys
We're talking too formal.
Uh, alright.
Uh, they plan on doing something back there
with, uh, trucks.
Right? The truck. What? So
We, we were gonna put the truck, well it's a depre,
someone that asked if it's a depressed or at, right, right.
Well, it's depressed
'cause we use a forklift to handle Right.
Remove those large, The large tires.
So they're in and out of trailers.
It's where the two trailers are outlined on that
Site. So it's not
an actually pond
where water can accumulate. Well,
It's a bad grade job right now.
Well, what? Alright, it's soil that was put, you know,
filled in that hole that was, uh, made, uh,
after remediation and it compressed.
So now it created its own little pond there.
It doesn't drain and they gotta fill it in.
But like I said, it's, you guys have to be responsible
for the water so it doesn't drain
on somebody else's property.
Right. But once you touch that soil.
Okay, and I'm gonna, we're gonna ask you, uh, to check the
remediation plan over.
I don't know if you, you probably have a copy of it. Mm-hmm.
And we have a copy of it
and we'll talk about, we might expand, uh, a part
of the letter on what it is we expect, uh, to see.
Alright. And then we'll report to Eagle.
That's what, that's what we do as a city.
They've got the rules and, and we, uh, support them. Sure.
Alright. Is that all you need to know?
Yeah. Yes. Thank you. All right.
So you have no problems with, with what he just brought up?
No. Okay. I yield the floor chair.
Anyone else have any discussion?
Uh, Mr. Chairman, go. Commissioner, one question.
Are you guys okay with taking out the fence along Pine View?
Yeah. Yes sir.
Fair enough. Uh, I figured that was
that you'd actually want that.
Uh, we, everything's stored inside.
We have security systems and cameras
and there's really nothing of value outside on the property.
Alright. Fair enough. You can see in the pictures too,
they slide Yeah.
Ripping and closed. Yeah.
In the winter they just get jammed by,
so you really can't do that anyway.
Fair enough. Um, I mean if somebody's gonna try
to steal 200 pound tires,
they're not gonna get very many very close.
Yeah. They're gonna need a semi to move them.
Yeah, exactly. So, okay. Fair enough. Thank you Mr. Chair.
Thank you sir. Anyone else? To the petitioner?
Good evening, sir. I was by there
and I looked at the property
and that's where I noted the water standing behind
where you wanna put the two semi trailers.
Uh, it's got like cattails
that grew out of it and everything else.
Uh, I'm concerned about the condition of the soil
and I'm concerned about the drain.
If water's collecting there, the con
the drainage of that area.
And you, if you wanna park a couple semi trailers there,
I'm sure it's gonna have to be, the soil's gonna have
to be checked and I'm sure that, you know, it's gonna have
to find a way to drain that water
so it doesn't pond in that area.
Um, that's something because of the restrictive, um,
or ordinance, uh, that's something I think you need to meet
with Eagle and get a, get an idea of what you have to do
to that area before you construct anything in that area.
So what I, I would like to see possibly
is moving this to a different date.
So you got time to get with Eagle to get an evaluation
of the, the area there to figure out what needs to be done
so you can do what you need to do.
I believe the copy of the restrictive covenant
that we have from it, the only provision is if we are
to disturb it, the soil just needs to be transported to a
sanction collection facility.
Okay. The only question I have with that is
I don't re I don't know what kind of business they had there
before was metal business or like brass
or I don't know exactly what was there before.
And if any of those contaminants got in the soil,
that may be an issue.
That's the reason I would like to have an okay with Eagle
with you guys to make sure that the condition of the soil
that's in there is gonna be power
for what you're trying to do.
Okay. I don't know how long that's gonna take for you
to get with them to fi figure that out.
Uh, but, uh, Mr. Wirth, you wanna say something?
Okay, Mr. Chair, we've, in our recommendation we said
that we're gonna ask for that re remediation.
That's, that's part of what they need to do.
No matter what the, they get,
if they get an approval tonight,
then one thing they perhaps can do is work on some
of the other things like the front driveways,
remove the fence and,
and stay away from the area that was, uh, contaminated.
So I I I just think it's given them more time
to do the work and, and stay working.
I don't know if that's what you intended to do.
I'm trying to make money. That's a heck of an answer.
Uh, don't, don't we all, so point is,
the reason I'm standing here is it doesn't matter
to you whether you wanna wait for the, the remediation, uh,
uh, check done first
or as I said, do things while it's being done
and then work on that truck well in the back.
Or do you want to just
simply postpone it and think about it?
Would prefer to work on the other items until we get, uh,
that, that's what I suggest.
Okay. Very good sir. I mean, I just,
You know, as long, as long as we're bringing it
to your attention that that needs, that's a concern
that needs to be looked at.
Yes. And you're okay with that? Yeah.
And the planning department's okay with that then?
I'm okay with that. Yeah, I just, I got a little nervous
so I drove back there and I saw the pond
and I didn't know if you were gonna be loading it on ships
or, or what in the back there, over there with the water.
There was a well there previously, so we're just redoing a
it had been filled in, so.
Okay. Alright. Any other questions?
That was a motion by Commissioner Awadi supported by Mr.
Hawk. Roll call.
Commissioner Hollow. Yes. Commissioner Hawk? Yes.
Commissioner Dee? Yes. Commissioner Moori.
Botz. Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To approve with all the additional recommendations.
Thank you. Have a good
evening, sir. Good luck with your project.
Thank you.
I Number seven, correspondence. Seven a
Seven A revision to the site plan
for Islamic Center for Worship.
Located on the south side of 13 Mile Road,
approximately 512 feet east of Washington Boulevard.
8 3 6 0 13 mile road
and 13 dash 10 dash 1 26 dash 0 0 2 Section 10
Kai Amin and du Hawk Amin Omar Faruki
Za Rabo and z de uh, design build
PSP 2 5 0 0 1 5.
Letter letter to petitioner approved
by the planning commission on April 25th, 2026.
Revised site plan approved
by the planning commission on November 3rd, 2025.
The required variance
to retain the existing building within the front setback was
denied by the zoning board appeals on February 11th, 2026.
As a result of the variance denial,
the current site plan is no longer valid.
I need a motion to receive and file the letter.
So move Mr. Chairman. I second.
There's a motion by Commissioner Ddue, supported by Mr.
Hollow. Roll call.
Commissioner dse? Yes. Commissioner Hollow Wadi. Yes.
Commissioner Hawk? Yes.
Commissioner votes? Yes. Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To receive and file item number seven B
Seven B site plan for open storage
of fencing materials located on the east side of Ryan Road,
approximately 1040 4.5 B South of nine MA Road.
2 2 5 8 6 Ryan Road, section 32, mark Royer
and National Construction Rentals.
Jane Ham. 3 9 0 1 East 10th Avenue LLC
PS P 2 5 0 0 4 1.
Letter to petitioner approved
by the Planning Commission on November 17th, 2025.
The required variance to install a temporary 12 feet high
W wire fence wi windscreen
and to allow open storage in the East 125 feet
of the property, which is zoned R one P
and R one C on a non hard surface were denied
by the zoning board of appeals on February 11th, 2026.
As a result of the variance denial,
the current site plan is no longer valid. Thank you.
I need a motion to receive and file
Chair. I make a
motion to receive and file.
I support it. There's a motion by Mr. Hollow.
Support by Mr. Hawk. Roll call please.
Commissioner Hollow. Yes. Commissioner Hawk? Yes.
Commissioner Za? Yes. Comm votes? Yes. Commissioner Smith?
Yes. To receiving file I Number eight.
Old business Seeing none. Nine. Not bond releases.
Seeing none. New business. Seeing none.
Item 11, citizen participation.
If there's anybody in the audience like to come up
and speak, state your name and address for the record
and you have three minutes to speak.
Seeing none I Number 12. Planning commission business. 12. A
Discussion regarding the planning commission's process
and procedures after the zoning board
appeals denies a variance request.
Mr. Doth, you wanna come up and speak on that?
I miss Michelle.
Hello. Um, so this item
under 12 A uh, we are bringing this
before the planning commission to determine the process
for items that became before planning commission
and then REC went to the zoning board of appeals
and either were completely denied
or were partially denied variances.
And whether or not you would like to see those
site plans come back to the planning commission
as either a site plan or a minor amendment or revised plan
or have those plans to be reviewed.
Um, as long as all other conditions are met
by the plan planning staff, like with other site plans
where we, they're approved with conditions
and then the revised plans are turned into the
planning department for final review
before they're sent to the building department.
So that's really what we're asking, especially
with those two examples.
Seven A and seven B.
Um, both of the
petitioners have updated their site plans
and it's a matter of whether
or not those site plans you would want
to see again at the Planning Commission.
So essentially that would require petitioners to go
before planning commissions, EBA back to planning commission
or if you would be comfortable allowing the planning staff
to review plans after that point.
So really this is the process we're
asking for you to consider.
And if you have questions, um, I can answer any questions
or the planning director can answer any questions.
Thanks Ms. Michelle. You're welcome.
So does anybody have any thoughts on that as far as
if they wanna come back with a revised plan to bring it
to planning and they can go over it and see
Mr. Chairman, if I
may, um, we can go back
and forth with this A infinitum, that's the problem.
Uh, I don't mind having it
and the staff going over it as a result
of the variance denial.
The site plan is no longer valid.
That that kind of puts it all in into perspective.
But if we have to get, take a look at the, uh,
site plan again
after the variance has been knocked down,
it makes very little sense to me to put it through, uh,
our, uh, through this commission
and going over it and, and what are we going to accomplish?
So, so assuming that that petitioner
after going to zoning board
of appeals had received a denial,
they now updated their plan to meet the ordinance
and then they've said we have revised plans.
So the planning staff could either, you know, review those
and as long as they meet all the requirements,
just like any other site plan that is approved
with conditions could be reviewed, signed off, sent
to our building division
or could come back here if you want to see them again.
The another option is also in our recommendation
where we say, um, that these are the variances
that may need to be approved.
We can add some additional language.
Um, something like, um, let's see here.
We could add something like a site plan, um, revised
to meet the condition must be submitted, um,
and approved by planning staff upon approval shall become
the final site plan without further proceedings subject
to compliance with the remaining conditions.
So essentially just add some language saying
if the variances are either decided by the petitioner
to not be obtained
'cause they wanna just make the plan, meet the ordinance,
they could update those plans rather than coming back here.
So it's either way to look at it.
So I dunno if planning director wants to add anything or
This has been an ongoing thing between planning and zoning
and, and, uh, we ought to be able to work together on this.
Um, the, you know, we can go back and forth on this
and I, I really don't, I,
I have enough faith in the planning staff that I don't,
if there was something really major, then, okay, let's see
what we've got and, and take it from there.
But if it's, we moved, uh, I don't know,
we moved something, uh, we moved the chicken coop, uh,
or got rid of the chicken coop I that, that doesn't need
to get, uh, seen back at this, at this
Board that may not get approved.
If he wants to keep it,
Well, let's say it does get approved just
for the sake of argument, it
Gets approved then no problem.
But it's, But, uh, if not approved,
then it gets removed
or they can go to court actually if they care to,
a lot of things they can do.
And we mentioned that in this letter, the letter was crafted
to give them the petitioner some options that
they cont they ask us about what can you do?
So instead of us having to answer each time,
what can you do when, when you're denied ZBA action,
uh, we put it in a letter.
They, I don't know if you know this or not,
but the letter that the zoning board sends out
to the petitioner right on a denial simply says
to them, you've been denied.
Doesn't give any reasons at all about, uh,
how it got denied or anything else.
They just simply say, uh,
denied What this does from our point of view
is now it bounces back to us whether they know it or not,
but they're gonna know it because they're gonna get a copy
of this letter right here
and we want them to know what's what's going on.
And uh, if
and so like in the first one that's the, that
that's the one where they did, lemme see,
that's 13 Mile Road, isn't that?
Yes. They're not looking at that's the tree one,
isn't it? Hold
On. Got the wrong one.
Okay.
Yeah, 13 mile road
and they get, they get denied that they're supposed
to have a 30 foot setback as an example.
And uh, the house is set back 29
and one and a quarter, 29 feet one
and a quarter inches as opposed to 30
and, and they got denied.
So they want to, they wanna do something,
they think they can fix this rather, rather easily.
And that's what we can do.
It indicated in a revised site plan
and it doesn't have to, it's gotta come back.
We think you guys look at it, I think it's easily approved.
They get, they also get the approval letter
and understand that it wasn't overturned,
but they went and changed.
They removed the variance and therefore the site plan's.
Okay, this is our way to communicate more
with zoning board of appeals.
That's what it's all about.
And you know, that's what you guys had a meeting with.
Unfortunately I wasn't there,
but, uh, you had a meeting with those people.
We did not. And uh, we want
to continue having meetings with them.
Well this is part of that back
and forth that flow of, uh, information.
So they need to know what we're doing.
I think at Least That's,
I think Planning staff's opinion.
I I think both, both boards need to know what,
what each of us is doing.
Uh, but there are some, there are sometimes that there's
so many variances that it's there.
There's no way that the ZBA is going to approve it,
so we move it over to ZBA.
Uh, you can say it was an educated guess,
although I have a lot of respect for everybody
that serves on ZBA.
Um,
Yes, agreed.
And, and if we can work for together, this
Is a follow up. That's
the way I see this. If I, I
So you, you're not, you, you're, you don't want to have a,
a brand new site plan on it.
It'd be like their correspondence,
this happened and that's it. It's
A, it's considered a revised site plan instead
of an amended site plan.
It's just simply a revision based on, uh,
the response to a failed, uh, request for variance.
Alright, fair enough. Thank you. Alright,
Mr. Chair. Thank
You. Go ahead.
The question? Yes. Um, I just need
to know like when you bring it back to
planning commission is how much will be the cost?
Is it a costly for the client?
There will be no cost Practitioner
Because it's con it's continuing.
It's a continuing, uh, response to what's going on
with the site plan.
They started, they came to us,
they got approved based on the conditions
and zoning variances failed.
They went away. They said, Hey, we can,
we can solve this problem by changing our plan.
They give us a revised plan.
It's relatively simple in most of these cases.
What they do to take away the revision
or the, uh, I'm sorry.
The problem. And they just do it in a revision. Yes.
It comes back either, I dunno, old business, new business
and uh, and that's it.
It's not a public hearing.
Yeah. If it is not costly, I, I think it is better
to bring to us so we can, we can see what happening,
you know, so it's better to bring and,
but the thing is why does, uh, ZPA
denied for like few inches?
Because there is a existing building already there
and, um, the, the previous business left,
this building has to be used for something else, you know,
so they should consider like few inches.
Well, I, that You know, and because
I I cannot explain It because we already approved it.
I I cannot explain it.
So this look like a harassing to, uh, like, uh, citizens,
I, I cannot explain their, their actions.
Um, now I'll go so far as to say
our attorney tonight sits on that board.
I don't know if you care to respond to that or
Who, who's setting the setback.
Don't wanna respond to it. Yes. Mr.
Ron who's setting the setback,
who's setting the setback
for the buildings zoning ordinance?
It's in the zoning ordinance. Is is, yeah.
It all follows the zoning ordinance.
Zoning ordinance Requirements. Yes.
Okay. So they should, they should consider, you know,
they should consider like, um, if it is really,
really minors very small and
because we already approved
and they are, uh, like the people are coming back and forth
and this is terrible, but I, I, I think it is better
after fixing the plan, the,
the revised plan should bring to commission to see.
Okay. I agree.
Okay. Did uh, our attorney want
to comment on anything there or No?
Ron, correct me if I'm wrong,
but I I thought you were trying to
get this done administratively so it, it,
it didn't have to come back. Am I wrong?
You're wrong. Okay. 'cause
'cause I haven't been permitted yet to admit do, uh,
actions like that administratively yet.
Okay. We have to change the zoning ordinance
For that. Okay. My,
my apologies.
That's the only reason I say that. Okay.
Otherwise, yeah, I could do it.
Okay. Um, no,
and I, I don't wanna take up a, a public meeting here
with reasons, but I'm happy to
answer anyone's questions about CB's decision
after the meeting if they care to ask.
Okay, thank you. Thank you. Anyone else?
No. Alright, so then Ron,
so what happened is you're gonna send out a letter
to the petitioner
And that's who this letter goes to right
Here. So therefore,
if they can come up with something
with the changes to meet the ordinance,
then we might reconsider it.
They can come back to us.
Uh, they don't need an application yet.
They just, they need a letter describing how they, what kind
of change or changes they've made to the site plan,
the revised site plan that removes
the variance that they were requesting.
Alright. That's all, that's all we
Need. So unless they
can do that,
it's gonna stay denied just like it was by zoning.
Yeah, that's right. Okay. I
Mean, they have another out, uh, another way
to approach this and that's to go to circuit court,
but trying to revise the plan might be, might be easier
as in this, this one particular one here.
Alright. So
Thank you. Anything else,
Uh, Mr. Chair, if I may
go ahead.
Um, I seen that especially for seven A,
it was denied in the zoning voter appeal in February 11.
The letter that we have in front of us is formatted
for February 12th.
I know we had a planning commission meeting in between.
So is there a reason, um, has this letter been sent out or?
We're waiting to send it out right now.
Okay. Is completely my fault.
I forgot to add it on the last agenda.
It did go out on the 12th.
It did go out on the 12th? Yes. Okay.
I was just curious about that. Yes, thank you. Yes.
So, All right. Thank you there. No other questions.
We'll move to item 12 B, planning director's report.
Okay. Just a minute.
Okay. Here I am again.
And having taken time off I'll try not
to do that for a few months.
How's that? Anyway, anyway,
uh, a few things that, um,
that came up starting from the, the 23rd
and actually on the 24th there was a city council meeting,
and, um, Michelle attended that along, along with Amanda.
Uh, Michelle was there for a couple items,
a combo on Black Mar, and a lot split on Panama.
But, uh, the other item with Amanda had to do with,
with her and a historic district commissioner
who was being reappointed.
And she was there just like I will be tomorrow night
for commissioner ate in support
and to help answer any questions that, that,
uh, he can't answer.
All right, so that's, Amanda was there
and, um, that was on a Tuesday
of, uh, the 24th.
Uh, if I can read my writing here on the 25th, um,
there were some, there were some people who wanted to,
geez, I can't even read my writing.
Okay. What they wanted to do was, um, place, uh, a small
U-Haul outlet on a property on Mound Road that, uh,
isn't zoned for that
'cause of, uh, the outdoor storage, uh, type of, uh, issue.
It was interesting to talk to the people to begin with.
They were disappointed, but, um, talking
to the U-Haul rep, uh, was, was worthwhile.
She did, uh, she's been working for U-Haul
and for two years now,
and, uh, just just found out
that there are zoning districts in the city of Warren, and,
and by God, they're in other communities too, which meant,
uh, whether the U-Haul was a permitted use or not.
And she now has, that's part of
her review from now on.
And so she was actually sorry that, uh,
she had brought them there.
They'd have to get a use variance actually, if they wanted
to run this forward.
Anybody can come forward with something
and we just told them that it was unrealistic, uh,
at this particular site.
So, let's see,
on Friday the 27th, uh, there was a
town center steering commission or committee meeting.
I attended that with Amanda.
And, uh, there was a discussion
with a number of people there.
Um, they're moving forward with, you know, with trying
to make things happen, uh, in, in the town, in the,
uh, town center.
Um, they're not gonna hold
as big a large, uh, meetings.
We had a lot of people at this particular one.
It's gonna be broken down to some
subcommittees reviewing different
things about the town center.
So that's, I I can't be any more,
uh, any more.
I can't give any more information.
There just simply isn't any direct information on that.
Uh, on the, on March 2nd, uh, we met with, uh, Karen Birdie
and, uh, she had six items.
I'm not gonna go over 'em all,
but things that, that are in play right now in the planning,
uh, with planning staff
and some other things that, uh, that popped up.
So she's a busy woman
and we tried to help her,
steer her in the right direction with that.
And the last thing was, um, on the third,
that was a Tuesday, March 3rd,
and, uh, the Presbyterian church over on 12 Mile
with Presbyterian Village behind it,
if you guys are familiar with that.
Okay. So out front, uh, they had a, a few years ago
came to this, uh, commission
and got approval to put a gazebo up on their property.
Uh, things didn't quite work out.
Uh, 2020 came, uh, with COVID
and they couldn't do it at that time.
Funds ran a, a little scarce, but now they're back.
They're gonna probably just about use the same plan
with a few minor changes.
And, uh, it should be rather simple site plan approval
that I, as a matter of fact,
I think I'm amending it, aren't I?
I think I said I was gonna amend it. I wasn't gonna make it.
Well, nevermind. Minor amendment, huh? Minor amendment.
That's it. Yeah.
Not, not a full, uh, site plan approval one.
What doesn't require it? Not with a gazebo.
It's outdoor, you know,
and, uh, it'll be a nice, uh, addition, uh, to, uh,
their church in, in the rear of the property.
So that's what, uh, I was up to.
And, uh, Michelle took over for me during those, uh,
three days I was off.
And I don't have anything else.
If you got any questions, I'll try to answer.
Thank you, Mr. Wirth.
Does anybody have any questions for Mr. Wirth?
Mr. Chair, if I may, go ahead. Um, so Mr.
Wirth, I have a question.
So, with all the variances that goes through
from planning Commission to the ZBA, is there a record
of all the, uh, variances when we send it over there,
or when it, 'cause I know when it gets denied,
you're getting notified and you're letting
the petitioners know.
So where's that record?
Or is there a way we can pull in all those information?
The record is the agenda.
So people who wanna do variances, they're put on an agenda.
Sometimes that'll, they'll have 15 items on there
and it'll list exactly what everyone's there
for with variances.
And that's available online if you ever
care to look, look at it.
Zoning, board of appeals,
And then the denied ones, do they, is
that in their minutes or do we have,
That's then there's a second, uh, piece of correspondence
that goes out that's addressed to the mayor.
But again, anybody who wants to get it, they can
and they can find out the results.
Where do you get the results from?
I, I think you can, isn't it available, David? You can go
ON'S Page on what CBAs webpage.
CBAs webpage from.
Okay, that's City of Warren CBAs webpage.
You can, you can get a copy of that when it comes out. Okay.
So it's not, doesn't take long
after their Wednesday meeting.
Usually by, seems like David by Friday, they, they have
that available somewhere in there.
Some, sometimes it takes a little time,
but they list them, uh, they, uh,
They may show the simple word of denial
or they'll say if there are four variances,
two were approved and two others were denied.
Which denied still no matter what one denied variance, uh,
takes away the site plan approval.
So that's where the listing is.
And if you, if you wanna listen to the complete detail,
then you go on the, the city's on tv.
Okay. It's, it's, um,
and you can it see it on tv, their,
their meeting when you find out when the meeting is, uh,
or, um, you can probably obtain a, a video of it,
just like our meetings here.
So all that's available, care to care to look at.
Sounds good. Thank you. Thank you.
Anyone else have anything else to say?
Thank you, Mr. Work. Alright,
Thank you. Uh,
I am number 12 c, planning, commission and discussion
and concerns, anything.
I'm number 13. Calendar pending matters.
Not seeing any at this particular time. Mr.
Chairman, I'll make a motion to Ajour Adjo.
Make a motion to adjourn. Motion
To adjourn Chair.
I second. There was a motion
by Commissioner Ddue, supported by Mr.
Awadi. All in favor a. Aye. Any opposed?
Thank you everyone. Have a good evening.
Thank you.