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I'd like to call the meeting of the DDA to order at

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3:16.

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Roll call.

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Mr. Lucare.

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Here.

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Mr. Jackson, excused. Mr. McGarris, excused. Mr. Wiegand.

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Here.

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Mr. Zamora.

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Present.

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Mr. Klapsch, excused. Ms. Galar.

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Here.

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Mayor Stone.

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Here.

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We have a quorum.

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Can I get a motion to excuse the absent members?

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So moved.

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Thank you, Mas. Second?

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Second.

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Second, Mike.

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All in favor?

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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Motion carries.

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Okay, adoption of the agenda. Can I get a motion to adopt the agenda?

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Make the motion.

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Thank you, Michael.

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Support from?

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Support.

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Support from Gina. All in favor?

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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Motion carries. Audience participation.

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Lots of friendly faces in the room.

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Good afternoon, board. I would just like to say that if you guys could

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name the 8777 Common building, it would make

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things a little bit easier for residents who are trying to find the building,

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as opposed to just the address. We've had a lot of people reaching out asking for

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that, so I would just like you guys to consider naming that building.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Are you calling?

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Jason's asking for help.

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Okay.

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No other audience participation?

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Moving on, approval of the minutes.

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Can I get a motion to approve the April 1st, 2026 DDA meeting minutes?

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Move to approve.

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Thank you, Joe.

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Support.

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Support from Mas.

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All in favor?

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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Motion carries. Old business.

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In April, we took up the adoption of the fiscal 2026

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DDA budget. There was some discussion and

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an alignment on one of the items. Mark, would you like

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to speak to...

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Under old business, there's actually two different

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resolutions that

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have to be entertained separately.

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The one on pages

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11 to 14 of your packet has to deal with the

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budget that we're in right now,

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and that the board has never

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formally adopted that like we did with the prior year.

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So that's got the resolution that we need to

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adopt that budget, and that resolution

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is modeled after the same one that was prepared for our

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previous bond council last year.

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So that's one part. The other part has to

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do with the handling of the 345

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millage, and we have a representative here to speak on that as

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well.

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Very good. Is there any questions for Mark at this point?

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Otherwise, we can bring up our guest.

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Well, if we want to deal with the... Well, sure, we can do that.

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I think that will affect the adoption of

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fiscal year '26 because it was the item that was up in the air.

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Okay. That's fine.

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Good afternoon, Madam Mayor, members of the DDA

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board. My name is Ron Lipscomb. I serve as bond counsel to the

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city. I'm with Miller Canfield.

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And you have a memo with you

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in your package that basically just describes the statutory outline and

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authority for the DDA and the city to enter into an agreement to

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share the Act 345 revenues. This is

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fairly straightforward, although the language is not

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exactly straightforward, but

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this is how we've seen these provisions be implemented by DDAs and

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governing bodies across the state.

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So basically, what you would do is enter into an agreement with the city in order

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to share the Act 345 millage revenues to allow that

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to be retained and essentially be removed from the definition of tax

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increment revenues under the statute and under the DDA plan, so it can be

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retained by the city and used for its intended purpose.

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Thank you for that.

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Happy to answer any questions.

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Yes. I know that

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from time to time, departments disagree as to how to interpret

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language, and I appreciate having another perspective to

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build consensus and bring us into alignment.

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Was there any comment from either onto

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the advice...

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Did anyone want to weigh in? Okay.

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Questions or discussion?

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I have a question.

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Yes, Gina.

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We were provided conflicting opinions-

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Mm-hmm

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... at the last meeting. Is there consensus now

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on

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that?

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Would you...

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Council has provided a legal path to move forward,

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and I'm comfortable with the path presented by Mr. Lipscomb.

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So if the board wants to

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proceed according to his advice,

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there is consensus.

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Thank you.

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Any other questions or concerns?

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So I have another just general question.

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And it's really more of a statement than a question.

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Mm-hmm.

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But we have all kinds of things coming

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to us in the budget

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and near term, midterm, immediate,

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long-term. Has anybody looked

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atLike a longer-term projection to

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see if this body will be able to...

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What is the strategy for accomplishing all of the

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goals

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and balancing-

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... competing interests?

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Yeah. So, at this point, we've looked at a variety, and there's a lot

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of discussion around development.

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That's everything from properties in our portfolio

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to development of the DDA area, to

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broader. Part of that looks at our

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bonding capability and kind of

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prioritizing what those interests are.

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And so we're still waiting on some feedback on

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what

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to anticipate those expenses to look like, because

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you can't spend more than you have.

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And then we have to prioritize, like you said, near-term and long-term

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priorities and needs of the city before we

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can do that. So we need to have adequate financials in order to

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make those determinations.

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And then the other question that I have is, so we're

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basically being asked to adopt a budget, to approve a

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budget that is

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almost entirely through the year spent.

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Does the version that's in here...

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When you see the amended budget and the activity in the original budget,

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what was

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proposed by the department? What was approved by council?

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It's not real clear in the... Does this

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align with what was-

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... adopted in the current adopted budget?

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Chris, can you speak to adopted versus what has been

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actual versus projected for the fiscal

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year '26? Because we're getting really close to the end of fiscal year '26 and-

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Hi, good afternoon, Madam Chair. I know Gina Kepler from a long time

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ago. Hi, how are you?

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So we're asking what the difference is, is what the question is?

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I'm just asking if what's in the packet is what was adopted by council.

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So for sure. Yeah. So what happened-- Yes, absolutely.

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Okay.

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Because I know it was changed along the way somewhere.

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So there was some initial spending that was sent over that

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council stripped out, such as community outreach budget.

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So, I'm not sure

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the final publication, if that would've been listed for fiscal year

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'26, since that wasn't part of the adopted budget.

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Zero. The budget that we're asking-

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So everything is online. I'm not-

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... adopted by council.

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So the budget is online, even last year's budget.

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And we have the pages for DDA included in the packet.

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So between what the proposed budget was, there were

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changes. So what was published as the adopted budget,

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took out anything that was removed from the proposed,

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or were those just zeroed out line items?

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So the pages I have here are for '27, and they show '26, right, where we're

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at today with '26. So if you wanted to look at the historical, what

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happened last year,

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right, you could go online and it's there.

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Yeah, I've done that. It just was a little bit confusing because there were

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changes and-

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Sure

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... there's also been some disagreement-

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So there are budget amendments that happen through the year

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... as to what was approved and what wasn't approved.

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Yeah, there are reappropriations and budget amendments that happen through the

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year. So, if the board wanted a history of that, we

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could gladly combine that for you.

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So,

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I mean, we've-

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The answer to your question is that is the adopted-

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Thank you

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... budget from council.

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Yeah, and the adopted is amended and all that-

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Correct

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... is where it stands today.

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Current, yeah.

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Correct.

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The amended portion is the reappropriations that were presented to

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council for approval, the rollover of money from the prior year.

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Gotcha.

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As well as, so if we budgeted

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DDA to include items and then those were

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removed, there was potentially additional revenue that could be recommitted

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to a different project if it was not

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otherwise

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adopted.

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Yeah. But all we're asking then is to adopt the budget that council adopt.

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Correct. But there is a deeper question on

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kind of what was the process? How did we get where we are?

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so if there were things that were zeroed out that were part of

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that balanced budget, then there would've been revenue that might not

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have been committed to a line item or a purchase.

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I mean-

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... but that means that we have no authority

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to spend that revenue until

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it's included in an approved budget.

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And you know I've asked a lot of questions over the years-

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Absolutely

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... because it's been a very confusing process.

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And we-

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And I'm trying to just make sure that we follow the law-

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Absolutely

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... and that we honor our fiduciary responsibility.

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And I think this is the perfect time to dig in deep and kind of really

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relay going forward what this process should look like and be

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repeatable. But we can take to

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council in between budget adoptions

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if we identify a project, a proposal, and if

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council approves it, we can move forward before the next fiscal

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year. Is that an accurate description?

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On that budget page, on page 12,

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the first line, the original budget is the budget as city

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council adopted it at the start. The second

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column includes amounts that were reappropriated from the

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prior year, plus there was a project, I think at the police department,

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that was where the budget was amended that was taken to

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council and approved as well.

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So both lines represent what council has authorized to be

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spent.

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It is a living document, and one is that-

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... in stone. Once it's adapted, there's still some, if there's different

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revenues.

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So if you look at the layers.

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Yes.

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You have the state statute.

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Yep.

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Then you have the ordinance-

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Local ordinance

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... approved plan. Then you have the adopted budget.

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Mm-hmm.

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And then you have the individual items that

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come to this meeting for review and approval,

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and all of those have to be in alignment.

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Yep.

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And so, and I've asked this question before, so when we, as

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volunteers, come here-

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Mm-hmm

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... and expenditures are brought to us-

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Yep

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... the appropriate-

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Yep

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... employees of the city have reviewed it and determined that it

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is an appropriate and lawful expense.

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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Yes. I have a-

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Yeah

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... utmost faith in our controller's office, including

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budget, including

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purchasing, and all the checks and balances, and our audits

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support that.

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Richard Fox. Madam Chair, I'm confident that

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what the council adopted is what any expenditure that comes before this

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board has been approved for this fiscal year.

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And when we move into next year's budget,

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we'll follow that very closely. So I'm very confident that the

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expenditures have all been approved by council.

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Thank you.

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And I think you're getting at some of the actions that may have caused

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consternation between the previous administration and the previous iteration of

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council have not continued to date.

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It's been confusing.

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Yeah, and that's fair. Absolutely.

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Madam Mayor?

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Yes.

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Just

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for clarification, you mentioned about the

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reappropriation of funds when you have funds left over from a project.

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Mm-hmm.

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And are you saying that you could spend that without going to

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council or no?

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That is not what I said.

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The public does have gone-

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That's why I asked for clarification.

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Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah, I'll reiterate.

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If there was funds that were not committed in the adopted budget-

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You wanted to use it elsewhere, you would come to council

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... we can come and bring it to you and ask for approval before the next budget

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cycle.

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Okay. Thank you.

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As long as both branches have consensus.

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Sounds good.

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Okay.

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Correct me if I misspeak.

328
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No, you said it just right.

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Okay.

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Yep.

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Very good. Any other questions on process

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or on our legal advice as to how to proceed

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with Act 345?

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And Rick, can you just repeat what Act

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345 is asking of the DDA?

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Sure. So Act 345 is the act that allows

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the city to

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have a millage that the taxpayers pay, and it's for the police and

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fire pensions.

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And so with that revenue that we collect under Act 345,

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we pay what the actuary says we have to pay for the pensions of the police and fire

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department employees.

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And the advice we've been given is it's permissible.

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Correct.

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Any other discussion on the first part, which I would say the

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motion is

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to...

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How would you phrase it?

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There's two resolutions. I'm-

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Are we adapting a resolution?

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Page 114 is a resolution to adopt the fiscal year

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2026 budget. That's one resolution.

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On page 15 and 16 is the

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resolution for the 345 millage.

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Do we want to separate discussion?

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Does our board want to take additional time to

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discuss fiscal year '26 budget

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items?

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And/or are we prepared to

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make the motion for the resolution on Act 345?

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Tom, while the DDA board is looking through packets

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and looking over, would you like to speak to some of the

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accomplishments with the DDA investment for fiscal year

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2026

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with just about two months left?

366
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Well, yeah, we've been

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busy with moving forward with the Chicago

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Road Bridge. We got the grant from

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SEMCOG. That'll be going in soon.

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We've met with Plante Moran, and

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we've kind of got some site plans for the

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town center area-

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Mm-hmm

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... and they're reviewing our

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Retail study, market study, financial impact study,

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and they're preparing a report that we hope to get

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early June to be able to look towards

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putting out a request for qualifications for developers for this

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area.

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And the next biggest thing now is our budget, so we can-- Because a lot of

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the monies, as you know, we're fixing broken stuff.

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And so the community center has been

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upgraded, the pool has been upgraded-

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Mm-hmm

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... the boilers have been upgraded, the elevators here.

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This building I think is about 18 years old now, so some of those

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things are needing to get fixed. So there's a lot of those kinds of

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investments to

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keep the building-

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Upkeep and maintenance

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... up. Yeah.

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Mm-hmm.

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I'll

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make the motion.

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Thank you, Joe.

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Which motion? One is adopt fiscal year

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'26.

398
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Yes.

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Start there?

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Yes. We can start with that one.

401
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Okay.

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Joe makes a motion to adopt fiscal year 2026

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DDA budget. Can we get support?

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Support.

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Support by us.

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Any discussion or questions?

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Roll call.

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Okay. Mr. McCary?

409
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Yes.

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Mr. Zamora?

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Yes.

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Mr. Wiegand?

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Yes.

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Ms. Cavalier?

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Yes.

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Mayor Stohler?

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Yes.

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Okay. Budget's been adopted.

419
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Thank you. And now can I get a motion to adopt the

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resolution,

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to

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put the ex-345 millage funding towards

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retiree healthcare and pension?

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Is that the motion?

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So what we're-

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Yes

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... what we're enacting, just so they know.

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So that portion of the tax

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will now just perpetually go to the

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city to pay that-

431
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Right

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... and we just won't even see it-

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Right

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... or have to deal with it anymore.

435
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That's correct. Right.

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So that's the motion we're making, is we're allowing the

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city now to take that

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385 money, 345 money

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perpetually, so we don't have to deal with it anymore as our

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budget. So our budget will show that less next year maybe,

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but it will be going towards where it kind of was intended to

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go. Does that-

443
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That's correct. Yeah. In the last couple of years, we've done it as a transfer.

444
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Right.

445
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That will eliminate the need for a transfer because it won't be considered-

446
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So this board is just making an agreement with the city that we'll

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stand down on that portion of that tax.

448
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Year over year, that amount might change,

449
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but that whatever that is collected is-

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Yeah, it is what it is

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... meets the state statute. So that's

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not eating into DDA. That is married to whatever-

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That's the one that goes to council

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Richard Fox, City Comptroller. Yeah, so

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whatever the millage is, that dollar amount now will go directly to

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the city general fund, no longer will go to the DDA.

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So again, we won't have to be here making transfers each year.

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And just to clarify, what we collect meets our statutory

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requirement from the state. So that is-

460
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That's correct.

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Yeah, that's not changing how much is taken from the

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DDA. It is a one-to-one,

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it's just what fund it's coming out of.

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It's going to general funds at the-

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Correct

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... the general fund.

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Yep. It's going to the general fund.

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And Mayor, if I may?

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Mm-hmm.

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So the motion can be motion to approve the tax increment sharing

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agreement. Just to make it a little-

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Tax increment

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sharing agreement. Thank you for that language.

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Any other discussion or questions on this item?

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Not seeing any. Can I get a motion to adopt the

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resolution

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for the tax increment sharing agreement?

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I got that? Okay.

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Thank you, Joe.

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Support?

481
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Support.

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Thank you, us. Roll call.

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Mr. McCary?

484
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Yes.

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Mr. Zamora?

486
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Yes.

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Mr. Wiegand?

488
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Yes.

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Ms. Cavalier?

490
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Yes.

491
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Mayor Stohler?

492
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Yes.

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Okay. Adopted.

494
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Okay. Thank you for that. Thanks for the help.

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New business, item A, MDA membership renewal, Michigan

496
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Downtown Association. Tom, what do we got?

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Yep. This is just our annual membership to the MDA.

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The total is $750. I do like to point out

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that the actual membership is 650, and there's an extra

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$100 that goes to the advocacy fund to help us

501
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with meetings with legislators to talk about MDA issues.

502
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So the total for this year would be $750.

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Motion to approve.

504
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Thank you, Gina.

505
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Support.

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Support by Michael.

507
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Ms. Cavalier?

508
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Yes.

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Mr. Wiegand?

510
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Yes.

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Mr. McCary?

512
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Yes.

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00:24:17.820 --> 00:24:18.120
Mr. Zamora?

514
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Yes.

515
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Mayor Stohler?

516
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Yes.

517
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Okay, item B, BB Park irrigation repairs.

518
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Jason

519
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Good afternoon. Jesus Pilla, Director of Parks and Recreation.

520
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We're requesting at Beebe Park right now, we have Maddox Irrigation was the

521
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original company who put the irrigation in a couple of years ago.

522
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Currently, right now, three of the valves do not work at the park, so they need to

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get replaced. That is about $1,200 to replace the three valves.

524
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And all the wiring currently at the park is corroded,

525
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so it's recommended to replace all that wiring or we're going to have trouble with

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the irrigation system there. So, the whole total cost to

527
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replace the irrigation to get it back to working level and replace those valves

528
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is a cost of $2,800.

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It's requested to get that thing approved from Maddox to get that

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irrigation going and make sure that the grass and everything else is

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secured, and the flowers that we're putting in there as well.

532
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Very good.

533
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Any questions or discussion on this item?

534
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One quick question. Was there any timeframe on when Maddox could come out there,

535
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and are they going to, like as soon as this passes, it goes-

536
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They can do this relatively soon. All they're waiting for is my call really.

537
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Okay, thank you.

538
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Any other questions or discussion?

539
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Can I get a motion?

540
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Motion to approve.

541
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Thank you, Oscar.

542
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Second.

543
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Support by Michael. Roll call.

544
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Mr. Zamora.

545
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Yes.

546
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Mr. Wiegand.

547
00:25:50.552 --> 00:25:50.812
Yes.

548
00:25:50.872 --> 00:25:51.572
Ms. Cavalier.

549
00:25:51.752 --> 00:25:52.272
Yes.

550
00:25:52.332 --> 00:25:53.152
Mr. Vicari.

551
00:25:53.352 --> 00:25:53.612
Yes.

552
00:25:54.892 --> 00:25:55.312
Mayor Stone.

553
00:25:55.512 --> 00:25:55.812
Yes.

554
00:25:56.632 --> 00:25:57.172
Thank you.

555
00:26:00.052 --> 00:26:02.492
Landscaping services for Beebe Park.

556
00:26:03.292 --> 00:26:06.732
So let me explain this again. Jesus Pilla, Director of Parks and Recreation.

557
00:26:07.672 --> 00:26:11.472
We are trying to, right now currently, our water boxes that are sitting

558
00:26:11.532 --> 00:26:14.852
with the pavilion do not get irrigation.

559
00:26:15.352 --> 00:26:19.252
So planting flowers in those planter boxes just defeats the purpose.

560
00:26:19.312 --> 00:26:21.292
Every couple of weeks, they die out.

561
00:26:22.232 --> 00:26:26.192
I talked to both Maddox and Landscape Services about

562
00:26:26.312 --> 00:26:28.252
running irrigation to that thing.

563
00:26:28.972 --> 00:26:31.192
Maddox came up with a quote of replace.

564
00:26:31.252 --> 00:26:35.112
They want to tear the concrete out, and they have no way of replacing it.

565
00:26:35.172 --> 00:26:39.132
While Landscape Services will saw cut and get it done very easily.

566
00:26:39.632 --> 00:26:42.012
So, it's recommended to go with Landscape Services.

567
00:26:42.052 --> 00:26:46.012
They'll saw cut, they'll get water generated to our planter

568
00:26:46.072 --> 00:26:50.012
boxes there, so when we plant flowers, we're not going to have them die off in

569
00:26:50.052 --> 00:26:52.452
a week or three weeks. They're going to last the whole summer.

570
00:26:52.932 --> 00:26:56.152
So that's the project of that aspect.

571
00:26:57.112 --> 00:26:59.012
I'm sure the volunteers appreciate that.

572
00:26:59.832 --> 00:27:01.532
Any questions or discussion

573
00:27:02.632 --> 00:27:03.572
around this item?

574
00:27:03.582 --> 00:27:04.612
Look at how happy they are.

575
00:27:06.612 --> 00:27:07.492
Long overdue.

576
00:27:09.872 --> 00:27:10.592
Is that a motion?

577
00:27:10.972 --> 00:27:11.192
Yes.

578
00:27:11.812 --> 00:27:13.732
Motion by Oscar. Second?

579
00:27:14.272 --> 00:27:14.552
Second.

580
00:27:14.872 --> 00:27:16.412
Second by Michael. Roll call.

581
00:27:16.492 --> 00:27:17.172
Mr. Zamora.

582
00:27:17.312 --> 00:27:17.872
Yes.

583
00:27:17.932 --> 00:27:18.652
Mr. Wiegand.

584
00:27:18.932 --> 00:27:19.232
Yes.

585
00:27:19.252 --> 00:27:20.032
Mr. Vicari.

586
00:27:20.372 --> 00:27:20.552
Yes.

587
00:27:20.682 --> 00:27:21.412
Ms. Cavalier.

588
00:27:21.792 --> 00:27:22.052
Yes.

589
00:27:22.172 --> 00:27:22.202
Mayor Stone.

590
00:27:22.762 --> 00:27:22.762
Yes.

591
00:27:23.332 --> 00:27:24.072
Thank you.

592
00:27:24.132 --> 00:27:24.612
Thank you.

593
00:27:25.772 --> 00:27:28.452
Birthday Bash agreement for 2026.

594
00:27:29.572 --> 00:27:29.912
Mary?

595
00:27:29.972 --> 00:27:33.812
This is... Thank you. This is the 2026

596
00:27:33.852 --> 00:27:35.412
Birthday Bash Carnival agreement.

597
00:27:36.302 --> 00:27:39.892
The Birthday Bash and Carnival will take place August 27th,

598
00:27:40.192 --> 00:27:43.072
28th, 29th, and we're leaving an

599
00:27:43.192 --> 00:27:46.252
option for Sunday carnival activity.

600
00:27:47.412 --> 00:27:51.112
We included it in the agreement. The carnival would like to play that Sunday by

601
00:27:51.192 --> 00:27:52.732
ear based on attendance.

602
00:27:54.532 --> 00:27:54.992
Very good.

603
00:27:56.492 --> 00:27:58.252
Same terms as prior years.

604
00:27:59.132 --> 00:28:01.372
DDA receives 30% of profits.

605
00:28:04.512 --> 00:28:08.152
And when we talk about the carnival, we're talking about the rides that are

606
00:28:08.192 --> 00:28:11.452
provided and buying wristbands and tickets.

607
00:28:13.612 --> 00:28:14.872
Any questions or discussion?

608
00:28:18.132 --> 00:28:18.872
Motion to approve.

609
00:28:19.852 --> 00:28:20.472
Thank you, Gina.

610
00:28:21.392 --> 00:28:21.672
Second.

611
00:28:22.292 --> 00:28:23.992
Support by Michael. Roll call.

612
00:28:25.052 --> 00:28:25.772
Ms. Cavalier.

613
00:28:26.112 --> 00:28:26.412
Yes.

614
00:28:26.552 --> 00:28:27.052
Mr. Wiegand.

615
00:28:27.112 --> 00:28:27.332
Yes.

616
00:28:27.472 --> 00:28:28.292
Mr. Vicari.

617
00:28:28.452 --> 00:28:28.832
Yes.

618
00:28:30.172 --> 00:28:30.832
Mr. Zamora.

619
00:28:30.972 --> 00:28:31.212
Yes.

620
00:28:31.252 --> 00:28:31.892
Mayor Stone.

621
00:28:32.132 --> 00:28:32.472
Yes.

622
00:28:33.492 --> 00:28:36.212
Thank you. Birthday Bash entertainment.

623
00:28:37.852 --> 00:28:38.632
You got this, Casey?

624
00:28:41.832 --> 00:28:42.072
Hello.

625
00:28:43.812 --> 00:28:47.152
So this entertainment from Cary and Paul Group is for the live

626
00:28:47.192 --> 00:28:50.612
entertainment for our annual Birthday Bash Festival.

627
00:28:50.672 --> 00:28:54.572
This includes the bands, kid zone, and interactive shows

628
00:28:54.612 --> 00:28:55.692
for throughout the weekend.

629
00:28:59.552 --> 00:29:00.832
Any idea of what

630
00:29:01.792 --> 00:29:03.962
we'd like to offer? I know last year they had

631
00:29:04.992 --> 00:29:08.092
tattoos. They had a cotton candy artist.

632
00:29:08.532 --> 00:29:09.322
We have different-

633
00:29:09.352 --> 00:29:09.752
Magician.

634
00:29:09.952 --> 00:29:13.492
Yes, we do. We change up the shows. I don't like to do the same thing two years in

635
00:29:13.532 --> 00:29:16.632
a row. To make a difference. Some things are the same.

636
00:29:16.672 --> 00:29:19.452
We do have the airbrush tattoos. Those are always a hit.

637
00:29:19.492 --> 00:29:20.472
Balloon artist,

638
00:29:21.892 --> 00:29:25.872
a kids' DJ. We have a different dog show this

639
00:29:25.932 --> 00:29:26.212
year.

640
00:29:27.432 --> 00:29:28.792
Not like the Disc Dogs, a little different.

641
00:29:28.812 --> 00:29:30.592
They do more, and apparently, it's a big hit.

642
00:29:30.632 --> 00:29:33.652
They do it in neighboring cities like Sterling Heights, too.

643
00:29:34.872 --> 00:29:37.852
Magician, a different magician. It's fun, yeah.

644
00:29:38.072 --> 00:29:39.192
A lot of different stuff going on.

645
00:29:39.632 --> 00:29:40.352
I appreciate this.

646
00:29:40.492 --> 00:29:40.712
Yeah.

647
00:29:40.752 --> 00:29:41.892
And for frame of reference,

648
00:29:43.192 --> 00:29:45.112
staff did some digging and

649
00:29:46.472 --> 00:29:50.312
we were like, "Okay, how does Warren's Birthday Bash stack up

650
00:29:50.352 --> 00:29:54.192
against other communities?" And for frame of reference, Sterling

651
00:29:54.332 --> 00:29:58.062
Fest is about 450,000 commitment in overhead.

652
00:29:58.872 --> 00:30:02.292
And they earn it back, but this is a drop in the

653
00:30:02.332 --> 00:30:05.862
bucket for a community our size. And what

654
00:30:06.392 --> 00:30:10.192
I really recognize as well, families may invest in wristbands.

655
00:30:10.252 --> 00:30:11.992
That can be a hefty investment.

656
00:30:12.832 --> 00:30:16.692
But most residents and visitors can enjoy a lot

657
00:30:16.732 --> 00:30:17.852
of free activity-

658
00:30:18.172 --> 00:30:18.452
Mm-hmm

659
00:30:18.532 --> 00:30:20.832
... and enjoyment by participating.

660
00:30:21.152 --> 00:30:24.652
Yeah, our kid zone that we created, that's in this entertainment

661
00:30:25.372 --> 00:30:29.252
proposal, too. That was new last year, and that's been a hit

662
00:30:29.312 --> 00:30:30.952
because it's free, so they don't have to pay.

663
00:30:30.962 --> 00:30:31.112
Absolutely.

664
00:30:31.132 --> 00:30:31.272
Yeah.

665
00:30:33.552 --> 00:30:35.732
What other questions or discussion?

666
00:30:36.952 --> 00:30:37.332
Madam Mayor?

667
00:30:37.932 --> 00:30:38.672
Yes, Councilman.

668
00:30:38.932 --> 00:30:42.671
I just want to echo what she said. I think you guys are doing a terrific

669
00:30:42.772 --> 00:30:43.092
job.

670
00:30:43.422 --> 00:30:43.422
Thank you.

671
00:30:43.422 --> 00:30:46.592
And every year it's improving. Keep up the good work.

672
00:30:46.872 --> 00:30:48.032
Thank you. Thank you very much.

673
00:30:50.512 --> 00:30:51.032
Very good.

674
00:30:52.932 --> 00:30:53.272
Joe?

675
00:30:53.532 --> 00:30:56.892
Have you guys ever looked into pony rides for kids?

676
00:30:57.632 --> 00:30:58.932
Do they offer pony rides?

677
00:31:00.152 --> 00:31:04.062
Our entertainment group that we go through, Carrie and

678
00:31:04.152 --> 00:31:07.952
Paul, have currently stepped away from petting zoos at the moment.

679
00:31:09.372 --> 00:31:09.892
So we

680
00:31:10.732 --> 00:31:14.652
right now, the one we've dealt with, just no longer in

681
00:31:14.712 --> 00:31:16.892
service. So we're going to look at different options.

682
00:31:16.952 --> 00:31:20.552
I was going through the animal route without doing pony rides, like with the dog

683
00:31:20.632 --> 00:31:22.792
shows, and I believe there's a bird show too.

684
00:31:22.812 --> 00:31:25.952
But yes, I can definitely explore that too for the future for the pony rides.

685
00:31:26.072 --> 00:31:27.092
Definitely.

686
00:31:28.372 --> 00:31:29.922
They did slot cars last year-

687
00:31:30.452 --> 00:31:30.782
Oh, nice

688
00:31:30.782 --> 00:31:31.532
... and that was a blast.

689
00:31:32.112 --> 00:31:32.252
Yeah.

690
00:31:32.912 --> 00:31:34.782
It was something I hadn't seen around-

691
00:31:34.792 --> 00:31:34.922
Yeah

692
00:31:34.992 --> 00:31:35.992
... in a long time.

693
00:31:39.812 --> 00:31:40.432
Make a motion.

694
00:31:40.892 --> 00:31:42.552
Thank you, Joe. Support?

695
00:31:44.692 --> 00:31:44.992
Support.

696
00:31:45.002 --> 00:31:46.352
Support from Michael. Roll call.

697
00:31:46.752 --> 00:31:47.452
Mr. Vicari?

698
00:31:47.712 --> 00:31:47.952
Yes.

699
00:31:48.652 --> 00:31:49.252
Mr. Wiegand?

700
00:31:50.252 --> 00:31:50.352
Yes.

701
00:31:50.382 --> 00:31:51.012
Ms. Cavalier?

702
00:31:51.472 --> 00:31:51.752
Yes.

703
00:31:52.052 --> 00:31:53.032
Mr. Zamora?

704
00:31:53.292 --> 00:31:53.512
Yes.

705
00:31:53.692 --> 00:31:54.202
Mayor Stone?

706
00:31:54.392 --> 00:31:57.692
Yes. Thank you. And drone

707
00:31:57.752 --> 00:32:00.952
shows. Who would like to speak to drone shows?

708
00:32:01.092 --> 00:32:02.072
I'll stay up here.

709
00:32:02.112 --> 00:32:02.352
Okay.

710
00:32:02.392 --> 00:32:02.402
So

711
00:32:04.312 --> 00:32:08.072
last year, we booked the Birthday Bash drone show, and then later in the year, we

712
00:32:08.092 --> 00:32:10.102
booked for the tree lighting ceremony.

713
00:32:10.372 --> 00:32:13.782
Our drone show company, by booking both of them at the same time, will give us a

714
00:32:13.792 --> 00:32:17.722
discount of 2,000 per show. So if we book both of

715
00:32:17.772 --> 00:32:20.392
the drone shows right now, the total would be

716
00:32:20.612 --> 00:32:24.352
28,800, and that would be a discount versus

717
00:32:24.412 --> 00:32:25.452
booking them separately.

718
00:32:26.332 --> 00:32:30.292
They've shown to be a big draw for people at our events, and they hit

719
00:32:30.332 --> 00:32:31.432
really well with the public.

720
00:32:32.532 --> 00:32:36.452
It was a nice addition to the holiday celebration.

721
00:32:37.352 --> 00:32:37.382
For sure.

722
00:32:37.382 --> 00:32:39.122
People, I felt, stayed a little longer-

723
00:32:40.552 --> 00:32:40.602
I agree

724
00:32:40.602 --> 00:32:42.222
... endured cold temperatures-

725
00:32:42.242 --> 00:32:42.242
Yeah

726
00:32:42.252 --> 00:32:43.092
... and had a good time.

727
00:32:43.452 --> 00:32:43.911
Definitely.

728
00:32:44.351 --> 00:32:47.192
Yeah. Any other questions or discussion on drones?

729
00:32:48.472 --> 00:32:52.232
I would just say they're all the rage right now, and they're very popular

730
00:32:52.312 --> 00:32:53.092
across the board.

731
00:32:55.052 --> 00:32:56.472
I have to say, I'm a little jealous.

732
00:32:56.592 --> 00:33:00.532
Shelby does their community orchestra

733
00:33:00.592 --> 00:33:04.492
in concert to their drone show. So I'm just going to put that

734
00:33:04.552 --> 00:33:07.032
out there as something to aim towards.

735
00:33:07.112 --> 00:33:08.372
Something to explore. Yeah, definitely.

736
00:33:08.652 --> 00:33:08.832
Yeah.

737
00:33:10.372 --> 00:33:14.212
So when we look at this in the budget, does this go to

738
00:33:14.232 --> 00:33:15.692
contractual services?

739
00:33:17.442 --> 00:33:17.442
Yeah.

740
00:33:17.452 --> 00:33:17.812
Thanks.

741
00:33:22.932 --> 00:33:24.292
Any other questions or discussion?

742
00:33:26.252 --> 00:33:27.132
Can I get a motion?

743
00:33:29.332 --> 00:33:29.872
Make the motion.

744
00:33:30.252 --> 00:33:31.792
Thank you, Michael. Second?

745
00:33:32.952 --> 00:33:33.452
Support.

746
00:33:33.882 --> 00:33:34.612
Tomas?

747
00:33:36.092 --> 00:33:37.312
Mr. Wiegand?

748
00:33:37.652 --> 00:33:38.072
Yes.

749
00:33:38.112 --> 00:33:38.792
Mr. Zamora?

750
00:33:39.012 --> 00:33:39.232
Yes.

751
00:33:39.852 --> 00:33:41.032
Ms. Cavalier?

752
00:33:41.372 --> 00:33:41.712
Yes.

753
00:33:42.132 --> 00:33:42.772
Mr. Vicari?

754
00:33:43.052 --> 00:33:43.292
Yes.

755
00:33:43.732 --> 00:33:44.172
Mayor Stone?

756
00:33:44.472 --> 00:33:44.812
Yes.

757
00:33:46.172 --> 00:33:46.652
Thank you.

758
00:33:48.012 --> 00:33:51.812
Item G, 2026 flowers. Jason, this is

759
00:33:51.892 --> 00:33:52.052
you?

760
00:33:53.272 --> 00:33:53.282
Yes, it is.

761
00:33:53.312 --> 00:33:56.792
And that was the separate packet that you guys were handed, all the backups for

762
00:33:56.832 --> 00:33:57.072
this.

763
00:33:58.312 --> 00:33:59.412
Do you want to explain too

764
00:34:00.472 --> 00:34:02.732
why we had to follow up with that?

765
00:34:02.792 --> 00:34:06.252
Yes. So what happened was we originally went out for bid for this project last

766
00:34:06.312 --> 00:34:06.632
week.

767
00:34:07.532 --> 00:34:11.352
We received one bid which was not signed correctly, which

768
00:34:11.412 --> 00:34:15.212
was not accepted, and therefore, we had to go out and rebid

769
00:34:15.252 --> 00:34:18.252
this project, which we rebid it in the last five days, and we got

770
00:34:19.053 --> 00:34:21.453
the bid back that we actually wanted from the company.

771
00:34:22.013 --> 00:34:22.612
This bid,

772
00:34:23.652 --> 00:34:27.372
we went out for bid on ITBEW 1873 for the

773
00:34:27.382 --> 00:34:29.172
annual floral display

774
00:34:30.132 --> 00:34:33.312
for Parks and Recreation to do. It supplies the

775
00:34:33.592 --> 00:34:37.292
installation of plant and flowers for the stationary containers, which

776
00:34:37.312 --> 00:34:41.013
includes the lamp post planters, hanging baskets, wraparound

777
00:34:41.092 --> 00:34:43.212
posts, as well as associated materials.

778
00:34:45.112 --> 00:34:48.652
This year we had one quote from Cucci Sons &

779
00:34:49.432 --> 00:34:53.033
Limited for $18,540. So it was

780
00:34:53.072 --> 00:34:57.033
recommended to award them right away, so therefore, we can get these

781
00:34:57.112 --> 00:35:00.312
things planted up before the end of May,

782
00:35:01.332 --> 00:35:04.692
and not wait till June. So I am available for any questions you may have.

783
00:35:05.632 --> 00:35:08.992
I just want to say, I always appreciate when we support local vendors.

784
00:35:10.392 --> 00:35:13.472
Motion to approve, and if anybody has not shopped at

785
00:35:13.532 --> 00:35:17.212
Cucci on the local vendor front, it's a family

786
00:35:17.232 --> 00:35:20.112
business that has been here for a very, very long time-

787
00:35:20.212 --> 00:35:21.092
I think 100 years

788
00:35:21.112 --> 00:35:21.762
... and they do such a great job.

789
00:35:21.792 --> 00:35:21.872
Yep.

790
00:35:21.892 --> 00:35:22.572
Over 100 years.

791
00:35:22.772 --> 00:35:25.192
Fresh fruits and vegetables in season.

792
00:35:25.632 --> 00:35:26.512
Can I ask a question?

793
00:35:27.232 --> 00:35:27.432
Sure.

794
00:35:27.772 --> 00:35:31.612
Are we late in getting this put together

795
00:35:31.652 --> 00:35:33.052
this year? Because shouldn't they-

796
00:35:33.612 --> 00:35:35.752
Usually it had gone back in February and stuff.

797
00:35:35.852 --> 00:35:37.952
Yeah, usually in February is when we would put together.

798
00:35:38.212 --> 00:35:38.372
Yeah.

799
00:35:38.512 --> 00:35:42.232
So we were a little bit late, and a lot of transitioning was going on, so we kind

800
00:35:42.272 --> 00:35:44.492
of didn't realize that we had to do this thing.

801
00:35:44.732 --> 00:35:45.972
Because they have to grow them.

802
00:35:45.982 --> 00:35:48.712
What was that? No, they actually already have them.

803
00:35:49.032 --> 00:35:50.772
The planter box is already ready to go.

804
00:35:51.312 --> 00:35:52.192
Good thing Cucci's

805
00:35:53.412 --> 00:35:57.332
got the bid. Cucci's already had planned on doing this last

806
00:35:57.392 --> 00:35:59.642
year, so all the planting boxes,

807
00:36:00.072 --> 00:36:01.642
they're already ready-

808
00:36:01.692 --> 00:36:02.272
Ready to go

809
00:36:02.292 --> 00:36:05.272
... actually to go. So I kind of told them that, "You better give me the bid or

810
00:36:05.332 --> 00:36:09.132
you're going to be tearing out those planters and getting new ones." So, they did.

811
00:36:09.192 --> 00:36:12.732
They got the bid. We're ready to go, and they'll be putting it up there in no time

812
00:36:12.752 --> 00:36:13.091
at all.

813
00:36:13.792 --> 00:36:15.412
Next year we can get on it a month earlier then.

814
00:36:15.932 --> 00:36:18.562
Next year, it would have gone in February. More than a month earlier.

815
00:36:19.272 --> 00:36:21.572
One quick question, if I could, Jason.

816
00:36:22.232 --> 00:36:26.072
Does that include the four light poles in Beebe Park also, or could

817
00:36:26.092 --> 00:36:26.912
those be included?

818
00:36:28.232 --> 00:36:31.692
I can check. I would double-check if those include Beebe Park as well.

819
00:36:31.892 --> 00:36:32.471
Okay. Thank you.

820
00:36:34.644 --> 00:36:37.933
Okay, very good. I have a motion by Gina. Do I have a second?

821
00:36:38.644 --> 00:36:39.044
Support.

822
00:36:39.244 --> 00:36:40.244
Can I amend the motion

823
00:36:41.484 --> 00:36:44.664
to include the Beebe Park planters if they're not included?

824
00:36:46.744 --> 00:36:47.444
Are we good with that?

825
00:36:49.484 --> 00:36:50.224
The language. Okay.

826
00:36:50.384 --> 00:36:50.544
Yes.

827
00:36:51.424 --> 00:36:53.754
Okay. Motion with amendment

828
00:36:55.004 --> 00:36:55.864
supported by Oscar?

829
00:36:56.024 --> 00:36:56.244
Yes.

830
00:36:56.684 --> 00:36:56.964
Okay.

831
00:36:57.784 --> 00:36:58.184
Roll call.

832
00:36:58.324 --> 00:36:59.004
Ms. Cavalier.

833
00:36:59.204 --> 00:36:59.424
Yes.

834
00:36:59.484 --> 00:37:00.264
Mr. Zamora.

835
00:37:00.344 --> 00:37:00.564
Yes.

836
00:37:00.964 --> 00:37:01.644
Mr. Regan.

837
00:37:01.724 --> 00:37:01.944
Yes.

838
00:37:02.304 --> 00:37:02.864
Mr. Kerry.

839
00:37:03.044 --> 00:37:03.304
Yes.

840
00:37:03.464 --> 00:37:04.064
Mayor Scollon.

841
00:37:04.104 --> 00:37:04.504
Yes.

842
00:37:05.084 --> 00:37:05.384
Thank you.

843
00:37:06.004 --> 00:37:06.444
Thank you.

844
00:37:06.684 --> 00:37:06.974
Carried.

845
00:37:07.904 --> 00:37:11.504
Okay, let's do fiscal year 2027.

846
00:37:15.104 --> 00:37:16.844
What questions or discussions are there?

847
00:37:17.124 --> 00:37:21.064
Do you want to give a high-level overview of how

848
00:37:21.084 --> 00:37:21.864
it breaks down?

849
00:37:22.444 --> 00:37:26.244
So, on page 51 of the packet is where

850
00:37:26.264 --> 00:37:29.124
it starts. Actually, page 52 of your packet,

851
00:37:30.004 --> 00:37:32.184
which lists primarily the revenues,

852
00:37:33.424 --> 00:37:36.024
the incoming money on

853
00:37:37.064 --> 00:37:40.644
page 52, and then page 53

854
00:37:40.904 --> 00:37:41.384
is the

855
00:37:42.824 --> 00:37:44.624
personnel compensation.

856
00:37:45.704 --> 00:37:49.484
Page 54 is our basic

857
00:37:49.604 --> 00:37:50.664
budget laid out

858
00:37:52.924 --> 00:37:56.864
from top to bottom, the money that we're requesting to be spent.

859
00:37:57.464 --> 00:38:01.164
And then there's some backup for some of the

860
00:38:01.324 --> 00:38:05.184
items, but I just want to give you the whole overlook.

861
00:38:05.624 --> 00:38:07.084
There is, on page-

862
00:38:16.484 --> 00:38:17.064
55?

863
00:38:17.144 --> 00:38:21.064
Page 59 is the list of

864
00:38:22.684 --> 00:38:24.264
our capital outlays.

865
00:38:25.104 --> 00:38:28.524
And on page 60 is what's listed

866
00:38:29.204 --> 00:38:32.584
typically and what we would spend in general

867
00:38:32.704 --> 00:38:33.404
services,

868
00:38:34.584 --> 00:38:38.464
general contracted services. So, as you go

869
00:38:38.524 --> 00:38:42.244
through it, those are the things that we'll end up talking about in a more

870
00:38:42.324 --> 00:38:45.504
specific manner. And so,

871
00:38:47.064 --> 00:38:47.944
we made a

872
00:38:49.004 --> 00:38:50.644
short little highlight list

873
00:38:51.464 --> 00:38:55.164
just to talk about the fact that right now our DDA

874
00:38:55.264 --> 00:38:58.224
revenue is about $14 million a year.

875
00:39:00.664 --> 00:39:03.964
We have most of our current bond payments, which

876
00:39:04.724 --> 00:39:07.024
equal about $6 million a year,

877
00:39:08.444 --> 00:39:11.004
will be paid off over the next two or three years.

878
00:39:11.644 --> 00:39:12.624
And,

879
00:39:14.964 --> 00:39:15.944
so that's good news.

880
00:39:16.784 --> 00:39:20.524
The other side of that is we're expecting a need to bond

881
00:39:20.584 --> 00:39:24.264
for north of 100 million to finish the

882
00:39:24.284 --> 00:39:27.464
downtown and the court and potential police and some of those

883
00:39:27.544 --> 00:39:29.904
things. So we just want to keep you in...

884
00:39:31.004 --> 00:39:34.354
So there's money coming in. We're flush. We can pay our bills.

885
00:39:34.444 --> 00:39:35.624
We have about 12 million

886
00:39:36.464 --> 00:39:38.404
balance at this point.

887
00:39:39.854 --> 00:39:43.824
But moving forward, as the town center develops and we

888
00:39:43.864 --> 00:39:47.814
look to maybe put in a parking deck for some of those things and

889
00:39:47.844 --> 00:39:49.304
this courthouse and some of that,

890
00:39:51.024 --> 00:39:54.724
what Rick is effectively

891
00:39:54.784 --> 00:39:58.584
called the gravy train in some of the departments is going to have to

892
00:39:58.644 --> 00:40:02.524
slow down. So to answer Gina's earlier question, we

893
00:40:02.604 --> 00:40:04.464
are working with the departments that

894
00:40:05.344 --> 00:40:06.024
our

895
00:40:07.244 --> 00:40:10.964
expendable income is going to shrink as we move forward,

896
00:40:11.504 --> 00:40:12.824
spending those big dollars.

897
00:40:14.284 --> 00:40:18.184
And I do always like to say at this time that because

898
00:40:18.344 --> 00:40:21.724
we have a DDA, the city realizes about

899
00:40:22.044 --> 00:40:25.664
40% more in tax revenue than without a

900
00:40:25.724 --> 00:40:29.404
DDA. We're able to capture certain taxes at the state

901
00:40:29.464 --> 00:40:32.044
level that normally the city can't.

902
00:40:32.104 --> 00:40:32.224
So,

903
00:40:33.304 --> 00:40:37.244
with us doing that, we're able to help those city departments and

904
00:40:37.304 --> 00:40:37.544
help

905
00:40:38.364 --> 00:40:40.084
things active in the DDA.

906
00:40:41.964 --> 00:40:42.144
Can I-

907
00:40:42.184 --> 00:40:42.644
So as you-

908
00:40:42.674 --> 00:40:43.584
... make a comment on that?

909
00:40:43.624 --> 00:40:44.004
Question or-

910
00:40:44.424 --> 00:40:48.024
So that's actually the point that I brought up at the last meeting,

911
00:40:48.113 --> 00:40:50.864
that I think we have an obligation to protect

912
00:40:51.944 --> 00:40:52.224
the

913
00:40:54.044 --> 00:40:57.184
purpose of the DDA and to uphold the purpose of the DDA

914
00:40:57.364 --> 00:41:00.754
because the DDA is capturing

915
00:41:00.784 --> 00:41:04.564
revenue that the county and other taxing-

916
00:41:04.574 --> 00:41:04.574
Right

917
00:41:04.574 --> 00:41:08.284
... authorities have agreed to allow the City of Warren to

918
00:41:08.404 --> 00:41:09.224
use, and

919
00:41:10.424 --> 00:41:13.044
we should be respectful of the purpose of it.

920
00:41:13.164 --> 00:41:16.604
100%. And to that point, you guys have approved

921
00:41:17.264 --> 00:41:21.204
the RFPs ready to go out. We're putting to start a

922
00:41:21.284 --> 00:41:24.744
survey of the DDA district businesses, which is going to lead

923
00:41:24.824 --> 00:41:27.644
into a consultant helping us

924
00:41:27.784 --> 00:41:31.724
re-update the development plan. And the

925
00:41:31.744 --> 00:41:35.344
development plan will then be more specific because

926
00:41:35.404 --> 00:41:39.364
technically all these expenditures need to go back to

927
00:41:39.404 --> 00:41:42.084
the development plan. So it needs to be updated.

928
00:41:42.184 --> 00:41:46.044
So this year, that's our goal is to get the board by the

929
00:41:46.064 --> 00:41:49.664
end of the year to have a new development plan and have the

930
00:41:50.104 --> 00:41:51.744
city ready to move into the next

931
00:41:53.124 --> 00:41:53.664
phase.

932
00:41:54.374 --> 00:41:54.374
Phase.

933
00:41:54.424 --> 00:41:56.484
So yes, I agree.

934
00:41:58.504 --> 00:42:01.784
And so I can run down these highlights because these are the things that are

935
00:42:02.604 --> 00:42:05.764
changes from recommended and some of the things.

936
00:42:06.084 --> 00:42:09.644
The good news is we did a recommended, we went to council,

937
00:42:10.144 --> 00:42:13.284
got to listen to council's feedback, and

938
00:42:14.024 --> 00:42:17.344
spent some time internally doing some follow-up.

939
00:42:17.834 --> 00:42:21.344
And so we have some people here that can explain some of these

940
00:42:21.424 --> 00:42:24.144
expenditures, because I did

941
00:42:24.224 --> 00:42:26.464
highlight. So first off,

942
00:42:27.944 --> 00:42:31.284
Tiffany and I are asking for a raise, and if you look on the

943
00:42:32.244 --> 00:42:34.244
beyond the, I think it starts with

944
00:42:34.324 --> 00:42:42.902
page61,

945
00:42:43.592 --> 00:42:47.492
there's a three or four-page salary comparison, or five pages.

946
00:42:47.532 --> 00:42:49.072
It goes on with a little chart.

947
00:42:50.452 --> 00:42:50.532
The

948
00:42:52.392 --> 00:42:55.632
closest example we can give you is that

949
00:42:56.352 --> 00:42:58.252
Mr. Bonner in Sterling Heights is

950
00:42:59.172 --> 00:43:02.642
paid north of 160,000, and they just hired

951
00:43:02.672 --> 00:43:06.412
his understudy, who used to work here, at

952
00:43:06.612 --> 00:43:08.452
about what I make. And so,

953
00:43:10.132 --> 00:43:13.832
we've done this little comparison, and we think that what we're asking for is at

954
00:43:13.872 --> 00:43:17.071
the low end of the comparison study.

955
00:43:17.152 --> 00:43:18.652
So that's our speech for that.

956
00:43:19.612 --> 00:43:23.272
And I just want to speak to, on page 53, the

957
00:43:23.432 --> 00:43:25.872
increase is a contractual increase.

958
00:43:26.372 --> 00:43:29.312
So appointees receive the

959
00:43:30.052 --> 00:43:33.692
collectively bargained increase of the attorneys union.

960
00:43:34.372 --> 00:43:34.892
And so,

961
00:43:36.552 --> 00:43:40.292
from what is present to what was recommended

962
00:43:40.932 --> 00:43:44.472
is not the requested, but it is the

963
00:43:45.692 --> 00:43:46.492
contractually

964
00:43:47.732 --> 00:43:49.632
agreed to increase.

965
00:43:51.792 --> 00:43:53.692
Are you looking for that, or less or more?

966
00:43:54.212 --> 00:43:57.312
No, we're asking 135 and 85.

967
00:43:58.792 --> 00:44:00.152
Those are our requests.

968
00:44:01.912 --> 00:44:05.472
The next item is on your actual

969
00:44:05.632 --> 00:44:08.672
budget, which is on page

970
00:44:13.152 --> 00:44:16.732
54, under community promotion and

971
00:44:16.852 --> 00:44:17.552
outreach.

972
00:44:18.872 --> 00:44:19.892
We had originally

973
00:44:21.612 --> 00:44:24.792
asked at 150. After meeting with council,

974
00:44:25.292 --> 00:44:29.212
that sounded a little steep, and they asked for some

975
00:44:29.272 --> 00:44:32.012
feedback. So on the following pages,

976
00:44:32.152 --> 00:44:33.552
fifty-

977
00:44:36.672 --> 00:44:37.222
Fifty-five. Yeah, 55 and 56.

978
00:44:37.232 --> 00:44:40.992
The next two or three pages, there's a list, and then the last

979
00:44:41.092 --> 00:44:43.832
one is summary of community promotions.

980
00:44:44.652 --> 00:44:48.132
So to promote the Birthday Bash, the Restaurant Week, Harvest Treats,

981
00:44:48.672 --> 00:44:52.142
some of the seminars we're doing, the informational seminars,

982
00:44:52.212 --> 00:44:55.972
or outreach we're going to need, so

983
00:44:56.072 --> 00:44:59.632
forth. So that's closer to 50. So we're actually

984
00:44:59.732 --> 00:45:03.572
asking this board to consider lowering that request that

985
00:45:03.612 --> 00:45:06.652
we send to council to 50,000.

986
00:45:07.612 --> 00:45:07.932
Yeah.

987
00:45:07.992 --> 00:45:10.532
Is there a page that puts all of this together?

988
00:45:10.612 --> 00:45:11.052
Yeah.

989
00:45:11.072 --> 00:45:11.862
Which page is that?

990
00:45:12.432 --> 00:45:16.172
In front of you is just an overview, the bullet

991
00:45:16.252 --> 00:45:16.852
points.

992
00:45:17.812 --> 00:45:20.772
That is, but in your packet, it would be page-

993
00:45:21.272 --> 00:45:22.032
54, Gina.

994
00:45:22.352 --> 00:45:22.792
Thank you.

995
00:45:23.772 --> 00:45:24.352
For the-

996
00:45:24.832 --> 00:45:25.262
For the community

997
00:45:25.262 --> 00:45:27.772
... expenditures, community outreach expenditures?

998
00:45:27.962 --> 00:45:27.962
Yeah.

999
00:45:27.992 --> 00:45:31.412
No, I just meant for the whole budget, because there's a bunch of highlights, and

1000
00:45:31.472 --> 00:45:32.922
this is changing, and that. Like, is there a-

1001
00:45:32.922 --> 00:45:36.452
Yeah. So the whole budget is the page that we're

1002
00:45:36.512 --> 00:45:37.341
talking about-

1003
00:45:37.812 --> 00:45:39.912
This bulleted page that was handed out

1004
00:45:39.932 --> 00:45:42.132
... on page 54. That is our-

1005
00:45:42.152 --> 00:45:42.992
Pulls it all together.

1006
00:45:43.412 --> 00:45:43.592
Okay.

1007
00:45:43.672 --> 00:45:46.172
Page 54 is our budget.

1008
00:45:47.072 --> 00:45:48.272
So it includes

1009
00:45:52.632 --> 00:45:56.621
where we're at today. Based on what you guys vote, we will then

1010
00:45:56.692 --> 00:45:59.662
have what you approve for us to forward to council.

1011
00:46:00.292 --> 00:46:02.492
So you're not adopting this budget.

1012
00:46:02.512 --> 00:46:06.432
All you're doing is giving me an approved budget that you've discussed for us

1013
00:46:06.472 --> 00:46:07.692
to forward to council

1014
00:46:08.512 --> 00:46:11.332
for them to be able to formally fund.

1015
00:46:12.312 --> 00:46:16.072
Once they formally fund, then in July, I'll be bringing

1016
00:46:16.132 --> 00:46:19.572
that back for us to adopt our official budget.

1017
00:46:21.372 --> 00:46:25.152
Do we have the ability to discuss and approve the

1018
00:46:25.312 --> 00:46:27.612
budget in parts, like in sections?

1019
00:46:28.852 --> 00:46:29.312
So

1020
00:46:31.012 --> 00:46:33.912
you could still propose changes at this point.

1021
00:46:34.752 --> 00:46:38.612
If there's consensus to amend or change anything

1022
00:46:38.672 --> 00:46:40.852
that we want to take back to council,

1023
00:46:42.672 --> 00:46:44.312
that's where this discussion would happen.

1024
00:46:47.012 --> 00:46:49.772
We can take it in sections and

1025
00:46:50.212 --> 00:46:53.392
keep a tally for proposed

1026
00:46:53.472 --> 00:46:54.292
changes.

1027
00:46:56.972 --> 00:46:57.992
Do we want to

1028
00:46:58.952 --> 00:47:00.332
break it out, or did you get to-

1029
00:47:01.012 --> 00:47:04.292
Yeah. No, I wanted to do the overview, but-

1030
00:47:04.652 --> 00:47:04.662
Yeah

1031
00:47:04.662 --> 00:47:07.832
... yeah, so we could take it as we go.

1032
00:47:07.872 --> 00:47:08.042
But

1033
00:47:08.852 --> 00:47:12.212
page 54 is our budget. But on this budget, it

1034
00:47:12.292 --> 00:47:14.512
says capital improvements,

1035
00:47:16.072 --> 00:47:18.022
$6 million. So we did-

1036
00:47:18.052 --> 00:47:21.592
Tava invited some of our partners

1037
00:47:21.672 --> 00:47:22.302
in-

1038
00:47:22.302 --> 00:47:22.302
Right

1039
00:47:22.302 --> 00:47:25.362
... where this money is going and why, how it benefits the city, so.

1040
00:47:25.392 --> 00:47:28.652
And so that's how we broke it out on page 59,

1041
00:47:29.552 --> 00:47:32.972
is all the capital improvements. And those are the questions that

1042
00:47:34.412 --> 00:47:37.092
go back to this big number on page 54.

1043
00:47:37.732 --> 00:47:41.712
So we could start with pay, and then we could go to the community

1044
00:47:41.812 --> 00:47:45.512
promotions, and then we could go to the general, if you'd like to do

1045
00:47:45.572 --> 00:47:45.832
that.

1046
00:47:46.212 --> 00:47:49.932
So do you want me to make a motion to approve the salary

1047
00:47:51.012 --> 00:47:54.732
request separate from everything else? I'm just a little bit confused.

1048
00:47:55.852 --> 00:47:56.652
We can start there.

1049
00:47:57.052 --> 00:47:57.132
No.

1050
00:47:57.252 --> 00:47:57.352
Yeah.

1051
00:47:57.492 --> 00:47:59.522
I, understanding the market-

1052
00:47:59.632 --> 00:48:00.952
You want to speak to this item?

1053
00:48:01.002 --> 00:48:01.792
... and looking at...

1054
00:48:03.412 --> 00:48:06.752
And I understand that you have to do things in increments.

1055
00:48:07.932 --> 00:48:10.872
I would propose a 10% increase this year,

1056
00:48:11.772 --> 00:48:15.152
different than

1057
00:48:15.232 --> 00:48:17.452
what is in here.

1058
00:48:18.452 --> 00:48:19.012
Towards?

1059
00:48:20.852 --> 00:48:21.972
Towards DDA staff.

1060
00:48:22.352 --> 00:48:22.632
Got it.

1061
00:48:22.852 --> 00:48:25.552
I think it's important for DDA staff to be-

1062
00:48:25.592 --> 00:48:26.332
Competitive

1063
00:48:26.352 --> 00:48:30.102
... compensated appropriately. And in my opinion, and

1064
00:48:30.132 --> 00:48:33.612
based on the data that we are provided, I don't think that even gets the staff to

1065
00:48:33.652 --> 00:48:34.432
where they should be.

1066
00:48:37.252 --> 00:48:41.172
Is there any discussion around the compensation study

1067
00:48:41.612 --> 00:48:46.572
discussion?Does

1068
00:48:46.612 --> 00:48:49.592
it feel accurate to your experience

1069
00:48:50.472 --> 00:48:50.972
in the field?

1070
00:48:51.292 --> 00:48:51.652
Yes.

1071
00:48:51.892 --> 00:48:52.712
Reflective of?

1072
00:48:52.732 --> 00:48:54.572
Well, it feels like it's still a little low.

1073
00:48:55.192 --> 00:48:55.312
Yeah.

1074
00:48:56.642 --> 00:48:57.692
Madam Mayor?

1075
00:48:57.752 --> 00:48:57.952
Yes.

1076
00:48:57.962 --> 00:49:01.892
Since we haven't decided, the council hasn't decided, looked at it yet, pending

1077
00:49:01.932 --> 00:49:02.092
the

1078
00:49:03.032 --> 00:49:04.092
passage of the budget here.

1079
00:49:04.452 --> 00:49:04.672
Mm-hmm.

1080
00:49:05.132 --> 00:49:08.472
If there's going to be amendments, we'd like to get something,

1081
00:49:08.532 --> 00:49:12.292
just justification like for the raises.

1082
00:49:13.232 --> 00:49:14.092
It's in the packet.

1083
00:49:14.652 --> 00:49:17.872
Okay. Well, you're asking for... It's already entered at 10%?

1084
00:49:18.142 --> 00:49:18.142
Mm-hmm.

1085
00:49:18.172 --> 00:49:18.512
Okay.

1086
00:49:19.392 --> 00:49:20.052
So-

1087
00:49:20.112 --> 00:49:22.692
Any amendment changes that we get, update.

1088
00:49:22.752 --> 00:49:22.782
Yeah.

1089
00:49:23.952 --> 00:49:25.932
And while I got, just real quick on that.

1090
00:49:25.972 --> 00:49:26.172
Yeah.

1091
00:49:26.292 --> 00:49:27.232
The outreach here,

1092
00:49:28.192 --> 00:49:30.791
this wasn't presented to council at the budget, was it?

1093
00:49:31.472 --> 00:49:31.952
No. He-

1094
00:49:32.332 --> 00:49:32.672
If I may?

1095
00:49:32.832 --> 00:49:33.312
Go for it.

1096
00:49:33.452 --> 00:49:36.202
So, we didn't have that, and council asked-

1097
00:49:36.232 --> 00:49:37.682
How about Freda here, how about give that to council

1098
00:49:37.682 --> 00:49:41.092
... So I called council secretary and said our hope was to get

1099
00:49:41.132 --> 00:49:43.552
approval to forward

1100
00:49:44.672 --> 00:49:45.762
the budget we would like

1101
00:49:46.612 --> 00:49:49.652
to council, and all that backup will be with it.

1102
00:49:49.712 --> 00:49:50.432
Okay.

1103
00:49:50.992 --> 00:49:54.772
Based on the discussion that was had as part of the administrative

1104
00:49:54.812 --> 00:49:55.212
hearing-

1105
00:49:55.912 --> 00:49:56.032
Yeah

1106
00:49:56.152 --> 00:49:59.762
... the department took that feedback back and said, "What are they

1107
00:49:59.892 --> 00:50:03.812
asking for that they didn't receive, and how do we provide that to you so you

1108
00:50:03.822 --> 00:50:05.972
have it for your consideration going forward?"

1109
00:50:06.232 --> 00:50:10.092
But it's very important to us that if any member here makes an amendment change,

1110
00:50:10.152 --> 00:50:13.072
that we know about it, so we can make a decision.

1111
00:50:13.472 --> 00:50:13.692
Yeah.

1112
00:50:14.132 --> 00:50:15.632
It'll all come to you in the packet.

1113
00:50:15.922 --> 00:50:15.922
Okay.

1114
00:50:15.932 --> 00:50:16.252
Yes, sir.

1115
00:50:17.272 --> 00:50:20.912
Would it be possible, Chris, will you generate these pages

1116
00:50:21.612 --> 00:50:22.572
based on

1117
00:50:23.752 --> 00:50:24.632
this discussion?

1118
00:50:26.412 --> 00:50:27.832
Can you speak to process?

1119
00:50:28.872 --> 00:50:30.392
Poor Chris, she's like, "Done."

1120
00:50:30.792 --> 00:50:31.292
Yeah, no.

1121
00:50:31.362 --> 00:50:31.832
"Done."

1122
00:50:32.752 --> 00:50:33.792
Hi, Madam Chair again.

1123
00:50:34.132 --> 00:50:35.012
What would make sense?

1124
00:50:35.772 --> 00:50:39.312
So the packet that I prepare for council

1125
00:50:39.912 --> 00:50:43.622
are the pages 53, 54. Okay? So that went to

1126
00:50:43.652 --> 00:50:47.302
council already. So anything that is discussed here and

1127
00:50:47.312 --> 00:50:50.352
approved here would be like an addendum or an

1128
00:50:50.392 --> 00:50:51.452
additional,

1129
00:50:52.932 --> 00:50:54.002
however you want to correspond.

1130
00:50:54.002 --> 00:50:54.802
Just a resolution?

1131
00:50:55.232 --> 00:50:56.592
Like, no, just a correspondence.

1132
00:50:56.601 --> 00:50:56.601
Okay.

1133
00:50:56.612 --> 00:50:59.802
They just need something in writing, specifically laying it out.

1134
00:50:59.812 --> 00:51:03.732
And then they can consider that and include it in their final changes

1135
00:51:03.752 --> 00:51:05.692
and resolution that they provide back to me.

1136
00:51:07.392 --> 00:51:08.571
So I hope that helps.

1137
00:51:09.232 --> 00:51:12.692
Okay. Just trying to picture what you're going to get and what we're

1138
00:51:13.092 --> 00:51:13.792
handing off.

1139
00:51:14.292 --> 00:51:15.712
Just to reemphasize.

1140
00:51:16.292 --> 00:51:16.442
Mm-hmm.

1141
00:51:16.752 --> 00:51:20.552
How about pages 55, 56? Has that been presented to council

1142
00:51:20.832 --> 00:51:20.892
yet?

1143
00:51:21.492 --> 00:51:24.232
Yeah. So, the pages council's already received

1144
00:51:24.992 --> 00:51:28.572
are the right-hand corners, 51, 52,

1145
00:51:29.612 --> 00:51:30.332
53,

1146
00:51:32.532 --> 00:51:33.272
and 54.

1147
00:51:33.852 --> 00:51:35.082
And I'm going to ask about 55-

1148
00:51:35.112 --> 00:51:37.232
So those are the pages council has

1149
00:51:37.272 --> 00:51:37.522
... and 56 as well.

1150
00:51:37.532 --> 00:51:39.062
That's from my budget-

1151
00:51:39.552 --> 00:51:39.732
Yeah

1152
00:51:39.972 --> 00:51:40.192
... book.

1153
00:51:40.632 --> 00:51:44.252
I think what the councilman is asking for would be backup.

1154
00:51:44.992 --> 00:51:45.192
Right.

1155
00:51:45.692 --> 00:51:45.832
Yes.

1156
00:51:45.952 --> 00:51:49.132
Those would be included as backup as part of the packet.

1157
00:51:49.992 --> 00:51:50.392
Does that

1158
00:51:51.532 --> 00:51:54.112
fit with how that would go over? Okay.

1159
00:51:54.292 --> 00:51:55.992
If there's recommendation, yes, the

1160
00:51:57.112 --> 00:51:58.812
supporting documentation should be sent.

1161
00:51:59.392 --> 00:51:59.631
Okay.

1162
00:51:59.852 --> 00:52:03.632
And Councilman, just so you know, page 55, that section

1163
00:52:04.032 --> 00:52:04.952
was made after

1164
00:52:06.132 --> 00:52:08.762
you guys were 50/50 and Tom got feedback from you guys. So yeah.

1165
00:52:08.762 --> 00:52:11.032
Oh, it's very informational. I just want to make sure the council gets it.

1166
00:52:11.312 --> 00:52:11.612
That's all.

1167
00:52:12.032 --> 00:52:12.252
Yeah.

1168
00:52:13.112 --> 00:52:13.772
Mm-hmm. Absolutely.

1169
00:52:15.452 --> 00:52:18.812
Okay. Thank you for that clarification.

1170
00:52:20.572 --> 00:52:23.812
Mary, would it be appropriate to vote on these

1171
00:52:25.052 --> 00:52:26.372
proposed changes

1172
00:52:27.452 --> 00:52:31.292
as items and then compile them into

1173
00:52:31.432 --> 00:52:31.552
a

1174
00:52:32.472 --> 00:52:33.172
recommended?

1175
00:52:34.652 --> 00:52:36.072
We do that. I like the

1176
00:52:36.972 --> 00:52:40.052
concept of approving the salary increases separately-

1177
00:52:40.592 --> 00:52:40.642
Mm-hmm

1178
00:52:40.652 --> 00:52:43.252
... because that might be a separate item for council based on the way our

1179
00:52:43.312 --> 00:52:44.412
ordinance is drafted.

1180
00:52:44.972 --> 00:52:45.172
Okay.

1181
00:52:45.512 --> 00:52:48.492
DDA appoints and sets salaries subject to council approval.

1182
00:52:48.952 --> 00:52:51.592
For the budget, it could be an overall

1183
00:52:52.552 --> 00:52:55.912
approval with amendments, as opposed to

1184
00:52:55.972 --> 00:52:57.452
deciding line by line.

1185
00:52:57.912 --> 00:52:59.512
That sounds reasonable.

1186
00:53:01.632 --> 00:53:04.132
Any questions or discussion on... Well...

1187
00:53:05.012 --> 00:53:08.592
I would just like to say that I don't know of any other DDA

1188
00:53:08.692 --> 00:53:12.332
directors that wear as many hats as Tom does, and

1189
00:53:12.412 --> 00:53:12.932
obviously

1190
00:53:13.792 --> 00:53:17.472
that filters down to Tiffany too, and I'm certainly in favor of them being

1191
00:53:17.512 --> 00:53:18.712
compensated for that.

1192
00:53:23.432 --> 00:53:24.692
Good.

1193
00:53:25.092 --> 00:53:25.692
Appreciate it.

1194
00:53:26.692 --> 00:53:26.722
So do we vote on this?

1195
00:53:26.722 --> 00:53:28.832
If Mary Barr can make 30 million a year-

1196
00:53:32.492 --> 00:53:32.932
Very good.

1197
00:53:34.412 --> 00:53:38.292
So is this a separate vote or is this just you guys

1198
00:53:38.312 --> 00:53:40.642
agreed, and we'll just start going down the-

1199
00:53:41.412 --> 00:53:42.232
Is this a motion?

1200
00:53:42.302 --> 00:53:42.712
Motion?

1201
00:53:42.892 --> 00:53:44.632
Mary, that's up to you.

1202
00:53:44.672 --> 00:53:47.132
To set the salary level?

1203
00:53:47.352 --> 00:53:47.422
Mm-hmm.

1204
00:53:47.472 --> 00:53:49.931
That would be a separate motion. I recommend separate motion.

1205
00:53:51.272 --> 00:53:51.532
Okay.

1206
00:53:51.712 --> 00:53:55.672
Mayor, can I make a motion to establish the salary for

1207
00:53:55.732 --> 00:53:59.532
the upcoming fiscal year for the DDA staff

1208
00:53:59.572 --> 00:54:01.512
reflecting a 10% increase?

1209
00:54:02.472 --> 00:54:04.812
Any discussion or questions on that?

1210
00:54:05.952 --> 00:54:07.792
Can I get a motion for support?

1211
00:54:08.272 --> 00:54:08.452
Joe.

1212
00:54:08.632 --> 00:54:11.352
So motion by Gina, support by Joe.

1213
00:54:11.552 --> 00:54:11.812
Right.

1214
00:54:12.312 --> 00:54:13.312
Roll call?

1215
00:54:13.632 --> 00:54:14.012
Okay.

1216
00:54:14.092 --> 00:54:14.952
Or just-

1217
00:54:15.632 --> 00:54:16.122
No, that should be roll call please

1218
00:54:16.122 --> 00:54:17.472
... acclimation. Okay.

1219
00:54:18.112 --> 00:54:18.952
Ms. Cavalier?

1220
00:54:19.092 --> 00:54:19.412
Yes.

1221
00:54:19.712 --> 00:54:20.472
Mr. McCary?

1222
00:54:20.632 --> 00:54:20.852
Yes.

1223
00:54:21.652 --> 00:54:22.292
Mr. Wiegand?

1224
00:54:22.412 --> 00:54:22.752
Yes.

1225
00:54:22.772 --> 00:54:23.452
Mr. Zamora?

1226
00:54:23.572 --> 00:54:23.792
Yes.

1227
00:54:23.872 --> 00:54:24.552
Mayor Stone?

1228
00:54:24.692 --> 00:54:24.972
Yes.

1229
00:54:25.652 --> 00:54:25.892
Okay.

1230
00:54:26.872 --> 00:54:27.472
Thank you, guys.

1231
00:54:28.432 --> 00:54:29.272
We got one step.

1232
00:54:31.232 --> 00:54:34.092
The next is on the general,

1233
00:54:35.272 --> 00:54:36.832
page 54,

1234
00:54:38.132 --> 00:54:38.592
is the

1235
00:54:39.532 --> 00:54:42.092
community promotion and outreach.

1236
00:54:42.832 --> 00:54:46.032
And our recommendation is for the board

1237
00:54:48.612 --> 00:54:52.432
to recommend that we lower that to 50,000 with

1238
00:54:52.512 --> 00:54:54.372
the backup that's provided

1239
00:54:55.704 --> 00:54:58.874
So the question that I have on this, if I may, is

1240
00:54:59.664 --> 00:55:03.604
we just approved almost this much for the Birthday

1241
00:55:03.704 --> 00:55:04.204
Bash

1242
00:55:05.424 --> 00:55:07.264
that technically is in August.

1243
00:55:08.184 --> 00:55:09.784
So how does that

1244
00:55:10.904 --> 00:55:13.944
work in we may have just gone above that?

1245
00:55:14.064 --> 00:55:17.284
So what we approved is our fiscal year

1246
00:55:17.384 --> 00:55:21.044
'26 budget. We're contracting with them

1247
00:55:21.104 --> 00:55:23.224
before July 1st.

1248
00:55:23.464 --> 00:55:25.964
But the service is being provided in August.

1249
00:55:26.084 --> 00:55:29.104
Those will be 2027 expenditures.

1250
00:55:29.444 --> 00:55:31.444
Yeah, those are contractual services.

1251
00:55:31.464 --> 00:55:31.924
But that's

1252
00:55:34.364 --> 00:55:36.964
typically charged out of contractual services.

1253
00:55:38.344 --> 00:55:40.804
So they have separate line items.

1254
00:55:40.864 --> 00:55:43.624
So you can go to page 60 in your packet,

1255
00:55:44.804 --> 00:55:48.264
and on page 60 is the list of what

1256
00:55:48.384 --> 00:55:50.984
we've presented as potential

1257
00:55:51.024 --> 00:55:55.004
contractual services. And you'll see that we

1258
00:55:55.064 --> 00:55:58.584
have the Birthday Bash entertainment listed

1259
00:55:59.184 --> 00:56:00.324
as a potential item,

1260
00:56:02.664 --> 00:56:05.464
the drone show, the holiday drone show.

1261
00:56:05.924 --> 00:56:08.744
All of these are actually less than what we had in this

1262
00:56:11.084 --> 00:56:12.624
page 60 of the packet.

1263
00:56:14.204 --> 00:56:17.444
So those would not fall under community outreach programs.

1264
00:56:17.454 --> 00:56:20.683
Correct. Those are paid out of contractual services.

1265
00:56:27.164 --> 00:56:30.364
So in our budget on page 54, the top

1266
00:56:33.284 --> 00:56:36.894
expense under the expenses, after you get through the employee stuff and

1267
00:56:36.964 --> 00:56:40.824
office supplies, is contractual services at a million bucks.

1268
00:56:41.624 --> 00:56:43.744
And so we broke out that number

1269
00:56:45.204 --> 00:56:49.084
into some of the examples. Now you can see there's a

1270
00:56:49.144 --> 00:56:53.024
contingency there of about 250,000.

1271
00:56:53.604 --> 00:56:53.964
And so,

1272
00:56:55.464 --> 00:56:59.324
we went over this with council. They know that that's what's

1273
00:56:59.344 --> 00:57:02.944
there, and it's for these other things that come up.

1274
00:57:03.384 --> 00:57:07.204
Something breaks that was not expected, something gets damaged

1275
00:57:07.284 --> 00:57:10.184
that was not expected, unanticipated.

1276
00:57:10.584 --> 00:57:14.484
And then what's the process for allocating the contingency?

1277
00:57:16.224 --> 00:57:20.104
That comes to us. So when a department sees fit and

1278
00:57:20.204 --> 00:57:23.684
asks us to support it, comes before us, we let

1279
00:57:23.744 --> 00:57:25.004
council know. They

1280
00:57:25.964 --> 00:57:26.484
approve it

1281
00:57:27.684 --> 00:57:30.684
or disprove it, and then it moves forward.

1282
00:57:31.984 --> 00:57:32.624
Is that accurate?

1283
00:57:33.864 --> 00:57:34.144
Okay.

1284
00:57:40.964 --> 00:57:43.004
And I know I'm asking a lot of questions, so-

1285
00:57:43.884 --> 00:57:45.824
You haven't seen me during a budget cycle

1286
00:57:46.863 --> 00:57:46.863
.

1287
00:57:47.004 --> 00:57:50.874
This says too, on page 60,

1288
00:57:51.424 --> 00:57:52.624
I think it's page 60-

1289
00:57:52.804 --> 00:57:53.124
Mm-hmm

1290
00:57:54.504 --> 00:57:57.864
... it's zeros on council approve because council hasn't considered it yet?

1291
00:57:58.064 --> 00:57:58.464
Correct.

1292
00:58:03.244 --> 00:58:03.254
Yes.

1293
00:58:03.284 --> 00:58:07.244
So that'll be the 12th. The council will provide their proposed

1294
00:58:07.284 --> 00:58:07.964
changes.

1295
00:58:08.144 --> 00:58:08.864
So when we met-

1296
00:58:08.904 --> 00:58:10.084
Or adopt changes

1297
00:58:11.644 --> 00:58:15.144
... when we met for the conference with council, they

1298
00:58:15.204 --> 00:58:19.084
preferred that this board deliberate on some of these things so

1299
00:58:19.144 --> 00:58:22.764
they were confident as a city council that this board

1300
00:58:24.224 --> 00:58:27.644
had made these conscious decisions and

1301
00:58:28.164 --> 00:58:29.624
was behind what we're sending.

1302
00:58:30.424 --> 00:58:32.424
And so they're expecting some of these

1303
00:58:34.464 --> 00:58:35.604
amendments, if you will.

1304
00:58:36.744 --> 00:58:40.184
So Mayor, if I can make a motion regarding page

1305
00:58:40.484 --> 00:58:40.824
60.

1306
00:58:41.144 --> 00:58:41.444
Mm-hmm.

1307
00:58:42.024 --> 00:58:44.164
And I think it's page 58.

1308
00:58:45.544 --> 00:58:47.664
So 60 is contractual.

1309
00:58:47.694 --> 00:58:51.524
And then 58 is the summary of proposed

1310
00:58:51.604 --> 00:58:53.144
community promotion-

1311
00:58:54.584 --> 00:58:54.864
Mm-hmm

1312
00:58:55.004 --> 00:58:57.964
... outreach. I'd make a motion to

1313
00:58:59.584 --> 00:59:00.583
approve that.

1314
00:59:01.934 --> 00:59:02.844
At the 50,000

1315
00:59:03.984 --> 00:59:04.254
level?

1316
00:59:04.764 --> 00:59:05.084
Yes.

1317
00:59:08.164 --> 00:59:12.083
Do we have support? Motion by Gina, support by Michael.

1318
00:59:13.523 --> 00:59:13.963
Roll call.

1319
00:59:14.624 --> 00:59:15.384
Ms. Cavalier?

1320
00:59:15.744 --> 00:59:15.944
Yes.

1321
00:59:16.204 --> 00:59:16.624
Mr. Wiegand?

1322
00:59:16.684 --> 00:59:16.884
Yes.

1323
00:59:16.924 --> 00:59:17.564
Mr. Zamora?

1324
00:59:17.714 --> 00:59:17.964
Yes.

1325
00:59:18.124 --> 00:59:18.804
Mr. McGary?

1326
00:59:19.124 --> 00:59:19.344
Yes.

1327
00:59:19.564 --> 00:59:20.184
Mayor Stone?

1328
00:59:20.284 --> 00:59:20.644
Yes.

1329
00:59:22.744 --> 00:59:23.324
Okay.

1330
00:59:24.044 --> 00:59:26.704
But there was also the...

1331
00:59:28.264 --> 00:59:31.044
Because it's more than 50,000, there's the

1332
00:59:32.824 --> 00:59:35.264
contractual services. Are we taking that separately?

1333
00:59:35.484 --> 00:59:39.284
Yeah. So I believe your motion was both 60

1334
00:59:39.384 --> 00:59:42.344
and 57. To approve-

1335
00:59:42.444 --> 00:59:43.614
Contractual services and-

1336
00:59:43.704 --> 00:59:44.464
At that rate

1337
00:59:44.544 --> 00:59:45.054
... 60,005

1338
00:59:45.144 --> 00:59:48.784
And the community outreach at the 50,000, and we're all-

1339
00:59:48.904 --> 00:59:50.364
Or we can do that separately if that's easier

1340
00:59:50.464 --> 00:59:53.964
No, I think we just vote. We had a proposal. We had support.

1341
00:59:54.544 --> 00:59:58.344
But the contractual services, it's already there. It's already at a million.

1342
00:59:58.404 --> 00:59:59.754
We don't have to. We're not changing that.

1343
00:59:59.824 --> 01:00:01.244
We're just expressing support.

1344
01:00:01.284 --> 01:00:04.723
Right. So what we'll do when we're done with this is one vote that just

1345
01:00:04.784 --> 01:00:08.224
expresses support for us to forward all this to council.

1346
01:00:08.884 --> 01:00:09.774
And I think they're just,

1347
01:00:10.984 --> 01:00:13.754
because this is a lot of buckets-

1348
01:00:13.804 --> 01:00:14.184
Yeah

1349
01:00:14.244 --> 01:00:17.684
... making sure that we know that we're all discussing and in

1350
01:00:17.744 --> 01:00:20.724
consensus on what we're doing moving forward.

1351
01:00:20.844 --> 01:00:21.184
Yeah.

1352
01:00:21.194 --> 01:00:23.184
And so I think that brings us to-

1353
01:00:24.764 --> 01:00:24.774
Page 59

1354
01:00:24.774 --> 01:00:26.124
... the capital outlay.

1355
01:00:26.984 --> 01:00:27.944
Is that the last bucket?

1356
01:00:28.324 --> 01:00:28.564
Yeah.

1357
01:00:28.904 --> 01:00:29.084
Okay.

1358
01:00:29.184 --> 01:00:30.684
So page 59

1359
01:00:32.024 --> 01:00:35.564
is the capital outlay, and some of this is just for

1360
01:00:35.624 --> 01:00:39.354
clarification purposes. Some of it, either the council had

1361
01:00:39.584 --> 01:00:43.484
asked a question about it, or one of the board when we met asked questions.

1362
01:00:44.024 --> 01:00:45.224
And so we

1363
01:00:46.164 --> 01:00:48.314
have some people here that'll explain this,

1364
01:00:49.184 --> 01:00:52.564
and then we can make the final call on these things.

1365
01:00:53.244 --> 01:00:55.384
So if I may, Mayor, the first one-

1366
01:00:55.504 --> 01:00:55.514
Mm-hmm

1367
01:00:55.514 --> 01:00:58.004
... we have the REPI program, which

1368
01:00:58.924 --> 01:01:01.064
Shannon and Hunter have been working on.

1369
01:01:01.144 --> 01:01:04.852
Shannon's with the armyHunter's with our economic

1370
01:01:04.912 --> 01:01:08.712
development department. It's a project for infrastructure

1371
01:01:08.832 --> 01:01:09.352
fixing

1372
01:01:10.152 --> 01:01:13.732
to help with flooding at the Detroit

1373
01:01:13.772 --> 01:01:17.212
Arsenal, at Kuka, at General Motors, at some of the

1374
01:01:17.252 --> 01:01:19.172
housing in that area.

1375
01:01:20.192 --> 01:01:23.852
It has to do with buying the land on 12 and Mound.

1376
01:01:25.552 --> 01:01:29.232
We have a grant from the Army for a million and a half

1377
01:01:29.312 --> 01:01:33.172
dollars to start with purchasing the land

1378
01:01:33.212 --> 01:01:34.692
and site plan.

1379
01:01:35.692 --> 01:01:36.752
And then when the work

1380
01:01:37.872 --> 01:01:40.972
actually gets bid out, the

1381
01:01:41.672 --> 01:01:45.472
Army would then fund that at a 90%

1382
01:01:45.572 --> 01:01:45.992
grant,

1383
01:01:47.092 --> 01:01:51.072
is our expectation. So it's a big deal for us to

1384
01:01:51.132 --> 01:01:51.692
mitigate

1385
01:01:53.412 --> 01:01:57.312
flooding. It's a big deal to our main driver of our

1386
01:01:57.321 --> 01:02:00.532
defense corridor is obviously the

1387
01:02:00.612 --> 01:02:04.222
base. And so Hunter, I think you'd

1388
01:02:04.272 --> 01:02:05.352
appear just a little.

1389
01:02:07.172 --> 01:02:10.892
Would you both like to step up in case there's discussion around this?

1390
01:02:11.452 --> 01:02:15.072
And before you jump in, I do want to point out something because I know

1391
01:02:15.412 --> 01:02:18.082
sitting through some of the hearings, there's questions.

1392
01:02:18.752 --> 01:02:22.532
So a lot of these asks come over, when you see

1393
01:02:22.572 --> 01:02:26.502
sanitation, parks and rec, and different items, come over as part of

1394
01:02:26.512 --> 01:02:30.472
department requests. And then in the department,

1395
01:02:30.632 --> 01:02:34.312
it looks like they're zeroed out because we've exhausted our general

1396
01:02:34.452 --> 01:02:38.232
fund. And so our controller's office is always looking for,

1397
01:02:38.332 --> 01:02:42.272
okay, based on priorities and needs, where there might be

1398
01:02:42.332 --> 01:02:46.032
additional funding, and then comes back and asks,

1399
01:02:46.492 --> 01:02:50.172
which of these items that would otherwise be zeroed out because there's no more

1400
01:02:50.212 --> 01:02:54.152
general funds be allocated through DDA funding.

1401
01:02:54.572 --> 01:02:58.142
And so it often looks like they've been

1402
01:02:58.192 --> 01:03:01.892
eliminated, but you have to flip to the back of the budget to

1403
01:03:01.932 --> 01:03:05.232
say the funding is no longer coming from general fund.

1404
01:03:05.272 --> 01:03:08.972
It's being asked of DDA to fund equipment and

1405
01:03:09.052 --> 01:03:12.872
capital improvements. So it's just one of the observations I've

1406
01:03:12.932 --> 01:03:16.312
seen in conversations with department heads, with council,

1407
01:03:17.292 --> 01:03:18.732
and so just want to make sure

1408
01:03:19.652 --> 01:03:21.152
how that gets there and why.

1409
01:03:22.432 --> 01:03:26.132
And I want to point out that Hunter and Shannon are speaking to

1410
01:03:26.172 --> 01:03:28.302
under DDA, Downtown Development Authority.

1411
01:03:29.392 --> 01:03:33.212
It says Readiness Environmental Protection Program, first

1412
01:03:33.272 --> 01:03:36.172
line item. It is abbreviated to REPI,

1413
01:03:36.312 --> 01:03:40.062
R-E-P-I. So if you hear people saying REPI, they're talking

1414
01:03:40.112 --> 01:03:41.112
about this program.

1415
01:03:41.141 --> 01:03:45.072
And so you have a little packet that kind of talks about the readiness and

1416
01:03:45.092 --> 01:03:46.472
then some color photos,

1417
01:03:47.392 --> 01:03:48.662
and it's great.

1418
01:03:48.752 --> 01:03:51.572
So do you want a motion to express support of that or-

1419
01:03:51.752 --> 01:03:55.252
They're going to give just a little high-level overview of the work that has been

1420
01:03:55.292 --> 01:03:58.232
going on for over a year at this point

1421
01:03:59.212 --> 01:04:02.802
that has gotten us where we are and also perhaps what doors this

1422
01:04:02.852 --> 01:04:03.912
opens next.

1423
01:04:06.312 --> 01:04:06.392
Yeah.

1424
01:04:07.201 --> 01:04:07.592
Please.

1425
01:04:08.572 --> 01:04:12.432
Good afternoon, DDA board, ladies and gentlemen. Appreciate your time today.

1426
01:04:13.592 --> 01:04:15.952
So the REPI program, I'll start with a little bit of history here.

1427
01:04:16.012 --> 01:04:19.972
This was established in 2003 under the National Defense Authorization

1428
01:04:20.112 --> 01:04:20.392
Act.

1429
01:04:22.412 --> 01:04:25.972
What it seeks to do is really build up partnerships between the Army

1430
01:04:26.032 --> 01:04:29.392
bases as well as cities and act

1431
01:04:29.472 --> 01:04:30.952
to prevent

1432
01:04:32.252 --> 01:04:34.682
incompatible developments as well as protect from

1433
01:04:35.672 --> 01:04:39.432
disasters such as floods, which we've faced in a much higher amount than

1434
01:04:39.712 --> 01:04:41.012
other areas of the country.

1435
01:04:42.192 --> 01:04:45.772
So in partnership with the US Army garrison here my friend

1436
01:04:45.872 --> 01:04:49.212
Shannon Burt, she's from there, has been working alongside me.

1437
01:04:49.592 --> 01:04:53.252
She's been a great partner. We submitted an application through the REPI Challenge

1438
01:04:53.392 --> 01:04:56.852
program to receive funding to protect not only our core military

1439
01:04:56.872 --> 01:04:58.592
partnership, as Tom had mentioned,

1440
01:04:59.412 --> 01:05:03.032
but the manufacturing base of the city that comprises more than 20% of our

1441
01:05:03.072 --> 01:05:03.652
workforce.

1442
01:05:04.872 --> 01:05:08.412
The REPI Challenge application was highly competitive with 46 Army

1443
01:05:08.492 --> 01:05:11.852
installations submitting applications with their partner organizations.

1444
01:05:12.352 --> 01:05:15.752
The City of Warren's application was ranked as the top priority

1445
01:05:16.332 --> 01:05:19.172
for funding through the program by the Pentagon.

1446
01:05:20.032 --> 01:05:20.081
The city-

1447
01:05:20.081 --> 01:05:21.032
Congratulations.

1448
01:05:21.572 --> 01:05:21.932
Thank you.

1449
01:05:24.732 --> 01:05:28.492
So the city under the rules of this would have to be the applicant

1450
01:05:28.552 --> 01:05:30.992
and steward of the land moving forward.

1451
01:05:33.292 --> 01:05:37.112
There's also a preliminary version of an expanded cooperative agreement

1452
01:05:37.152 --> 01:05:40.832
being drafted, which would act as a foundation for future cooperative agreements

1453
01:05:40.852 --> 01:05:44.841
between our two organizations. I like to think of it kind of as we're building

1454
01:05:44.872 --> 01:05:48.812
the tree trunk and then any agreements that we have moving forward would be the

1455
01:05:48.832 --> 01:05:49.832
branches off of that.

1456
01:05:52.032 --> 01:05:55.832
So, the Detroit Arsenal has been researching flood mitigation strategies

1457
01:05:55.892 --> 01:05:57.362
since 2014.

1458
01:05:58.852 --> 01:06:02.212
Their current projects are coordinated with the University of Michigan, the Army

1459
01:06:02.292 --> 01:06:05.892
Corps of Engineers, Macomb and Oakland Counties, Southeast Michigan

1460
01:06:05.992 --> 01:06:06.952
Council of Governments,

1461
01:06:07.832 --> 01:06:10.712
Red Run Drain Commission, and Idaho National Labs.

1462
01:06:10.732 --> 01:06:14.072
They've determined that our stormwater infrastructure is severely under-equipped to

1463
01:06:14.122 --> 01:06:15.402
deal with flood events in the region.

1464
01:06:16.192 --> 01:06:20.162
Vehicle and technological research and development that occurs on site also

1465
01:06:20.192 --> 01:06:23.812
faces threats of incompatibility with any potential development on the

1466
01:06:23.852 --> 01:06:27.822
neighboring parcel targeted for acquisition, which poses a serious

1467
01:06:27.832 --> 01:06:30.192
danger to national security more broadly.

1468
01:06:31.392 --> 01:06:33.712
Many of these same partners that they've been working with,

1469
01:06:34.672 --> 01:06:38.472
and more, are now beginning to be brought together to form a coalition that can

1470
01:06:38.532 --> 01:06:42.332
create solutions to the regional flooding dangers that we face with Warren acting

1471
01:06:42.352 --> 01:06:46.102
as the model and the leader for proactivity rather than reactionary

1472
01:06:46.152 --> 01:06:46.652
response.

1473
01:06:47.932 --> 01:06:51.732
With federal efforts accelerating to expand private sector participation in defense

1474
01:06:51.752 --> 01:06:55.672
manufacturing, including active coordination between the Army and General Motors,

1475
01:06:56.212 --> 01:06:58.112
Warren has a clear opportunity to lead here.

1476
01:06:58.732 --> 01:07:02.352
We must display our commitment by strengthening our Arsenal alliance and advancing

1477
01:07:02.362 --> 01:07:05.822
partnerships that directly address the operational and environmental challenges

1478
01:07:05.892 --> 01:07:09.752
facing this critical sector, ensuring its continued growth and resilience

1479
01:07:09.832 --> 01:07:13.744
here in our city.Shannon also, I'm sure, has a little

1480
01:07:13.764 --> 01:07:16.604
bit to add here as well, and we'd be happy to take any questions that you might

1481
01:07:16.644 --> 01:07:18.064
have afterwards. Thank you.

1482
01:07:18.524 --> 01:07:18.964
Thank you.

1483
01:07:20.544 --> 01:07:23.244
Good afternoon. Shannon Burt, US Army Garrison Detroit Arsenal.

1484
01:07:23.944 --> 01:07:26.164
Pleasure to be here with all of you. Thank you.

1485
01:07:27.384 --> 01:07:31.134
So, what I'd like to do is talk a little bit about the history of

1486
01:07:31.184 --> 01:07:35.014
how we got to this point. So we have been partnering with

1487
01:07:35.024 --> 01:07:38.884
Macomb County, and then also with Oakland and Macomb County, and we've been

1488
01:07:38.924 --> 01:07:42.484
doing extensive regional flood

1489
01:07:42.644 --> 01:07:46.024
studies. And so, right now what we've done

1490
01:07:46.324 --> 01:07:48.904
is we are working with both

1491
01:07:49.724 --> 01:07:52.284
Candace Miller's office and also with Jim Nash.

1492
01:07:52.724 --> 01:07:56.624
And, we have actually got both counties now who have

1493
01:07:56.684 --> 01:07:58.004
opened up all of their,

1494
01:07:58.864 --> 01:08:02.464
they're called H&H models. So basically, it talks about everything that goes

1495
01:08:02.484 --> 01:08:05.844
through the pipes, everything that goes over land, and what our risk for

1496
01:08:05.884 --> 01:08:07.234
flooding is.

1497
01:08:08.084 --> 01:08:11.864
This is pretty significant because this area has not been modeled in

1498
01:08:11.904 --> 01:08:15.404
over 50 years. So we didn't fully understand what our risks were.

1499
01:08:16.264 --> 01:08:20.044
We took those models, and then what we've also done is we've done

1500
01:08:20.105 --> 01:08:23.844
comprehensive modeling of all of the utility infrastructure in the region.

1501
01:08:24.344 --> 01:08:28.315
So now what we're looking at is what our risk to utility infrastructure is,

1502
01:08:28.684 --> 01:08:31.264
in addition to our risk to flooding.

1503
01:08:31.824 --> 01:08:35.764
In addition to that, we've taken a look at not only what it does to

1504
01:08:35.804 --> 01:08:39.065
the defense manufacturing base, but maybe some critical infrastructure that you

1505
01:08:39.164 --> 01:08:40.065
have here in the area.

1506
01:08:41.324 --> 01:08:45.025
For example, the ITC corridor, so all of the lines that supply the

1507
01:08:45.044 --> 01:08:48.824
electricity to the area, and also the City of Warren Wastewater Treatment

1508
01:08:48.884 --> 01:08:52.844
Plant. Those are things that we've identified as potentially at risk.

1509
01:08:53.525 --> 01:08:56.924
So that was kind of how we initially started.

1510
01:08:57.485 --> 01:09:00.905
What we did do is we identified this project where

1511
01:09:01.485 --> 01:09:05.344
this is a 50/50 fund, where through the REPI program,

1512
01:09:05.764 --> 01:09:09.275
we can procure land with a partner.

1513
01:09:10.014 --> 01:09:12.204
And then from there, there's another

1514
01:09:13.224 --> 01:09:17.114
step. And so that's the Defense Construction

1515
01:09:17.164 --> 01:09:20.924
Investment Program. That's a 90/10 grant that

1516
01:09:21.184 --> 01:09:24.855
Mr. Bommarito was referring to. And so the goal is,

1517
01:09:25.445 --> 01:09:29.364
once the land has been acquired, we would actually put

1518
01:09:29.405 --> 01:09:33.374
in an application to do all of the environmental assessment work, any type

1519
01:09:33.424 --> 01:09:37.044
of nature-based solutions, anything that needs to be done to the

1520
01:09:37.084 --> 01:09:40.924
land. So ideally, what would happen is, the initial

1521
01:09:40.934 --> 01:09:44.864
land procurement is a 50/50 split, and then all of

1522
01:09:44.905 --> 01:09:47.355
the work that happens after that is 90/10.

1523
01:09:47.905 --> 01:09:51.684
So, for example, if you had a $10 million project,

1524
01:09:52.315 --> 01:09:56.064
then community partners or whoever was found to be

1525
01:09:56.104 --> 01:10:00.094
an appropriate partner would come up

1526
01:10:00.124 --> 01:10:03.574
with $1 million, and the additional money would be funded through

1527
01:10:03.604 --> 01:10:04.904
federal grants.

1528
01:10:06.184 --> 01:10:07.764
So from a

1529
01:10:08.564 --> 01:10:09.124
protection,

1530
01:10:10.144 --> 01:10:13.964
it not only protects your manufacturing base here in the area, so

1531
01:10:14.004 --> 01:10:17.444
over 20,000 employees at GM, we've also been talking to

1532
01:10:17.924 --> 01:10:18.704
Dana, KUKA,

1533
01:10:19.904 --> 01:10:21.164
and it protects the arsenal.

1534
01:10:22.224 --> 01:10:26.004
You have some additional protections that happen to your electrical

1535
01:10:26.064 --> 01:10:28.884
infrastructure and your wastewater treatment plant.

1536
01:10:29.684 --> 01:10:33.184
So we've got protection of your defense manufacturing base

1537
01:10:33.584 --> 01:10:36.304
that we're looking at as part of your DCIP project.

1538
01:10:36.364 --> 01:10:38.744
The fact that we were ranked number one

1539
01:10:40.664 --> 01:10:44.564
for this project is incredibly

1540
01:10:44.624 --> 01:10:48.254
impressive. I cannot tell you how difficult and how competitive these

1541
01:10:48.264 --> 01:10:51.964
projects are. And so in a few weeks, we'll be doing a

1542
01:10:52.004 --> 01:10:53.864
briefing to our leadership,

1543
01:10:54.964 --> 01:10:58.764
and then also they are tracking this up at the Pentagon

1544
01:10:58.804 --> 01:11:02.224
levels. And so we anticipate with

1545
01:11:02.234 --> 01:11:05.704
the increased interest in the

1546
01:11:07.404 --> 01:11:11.364
big three from a defense manufacturing posture

1547
01:11:11.424 --> 01:11:14.524
that this project for DCIP would probably

1548
01:11:15.364 --> 01:11:19.124
compete very well. And so when it comes to follow on

1549
01:11:19.164 --> 01:11:22.924
projects in order to make the investments into the infrastructure,

1550
01:11:24.044 --> 01:11:27.764
we feel that there's probably a fairly high likelihood of success.

1551
01:11:29.903 --> 01:11:32.704
So if you have any questions for me, the nerd-

1552
01:11:32.804 --> 01:11:34.284
That was a very high overview.

1553
01:11:34.404 --> 01:11:34.684
Yeah.

1554
01:11:34.744 --> 01:11:35.314
Very quick.

1555
01:11:35.784 --> 01:11:36.184
Very good.

1556
01:11:37.144 --> 01:11:39.404
Many, many hours have gone into-

1557
01:11:39.444 --> 01:11:39.484
Yes

1558
01:11:39.504 --> 01:11:41.174
... preparing and researching and-

1559
01:11:41.184 --> 01:11:41.254
Yeah

1560
01:11:41.324 --> 01:11:42.114
... and justifying

1561
01:11:43.004 --> 01:11:44.364
and coalition building.

1562
01:11:44.624 --> 01:11:44.964
Yes.

1563
01:11:45.864 --> 01:11:45.884
I

1564
01:11:47.184 --> 01:11:47.684
sit now,

1565
01:11:49.224 --> 01:11:52.964
Ms. Miller asked, I sit on a flood task force with

1566
01:11:53.004 --> 01:11:56.444
SEMCOG. There's actually two different regional task force that we sit on now, and

1567
01:11:56.484 --> 01:12:00.434
we're working to build regional partnerships, and we're also looking to find

1568
01:12:00.464 --> 01:12:04.304
folks to help shoulder the financial burden of a DCIP

1569
01:12:04.344 --> 01:12:08.264
project. So we wouldn't simply just come to the city and expect that

1570
01:12:08.324 --> 01:12:12.124
that would lay at your feet. We are looking for other partnerships

1571
01:12:12.184 --> 01:12:16.104
and other places to find that would directly benefit from these types

1572
01:12:16.164 --> 01:12:17.214
of investment projects.

1573
01:12:18.144 --> 01:12:21.604
Just so that you're aware, this is actually part of a

1574
01:12:21.624 --> 01:12:25.564
SEMCOG 2075 flood study plan. And so this

1575
01:12:25.644 --> 01:12:29.404
is not just looked at as an individual plan, but we'd be

1576
01:12:29.484 --> 01:12:33.264
part of a greater regional flood mitigation strategy as

1577
01:12:33.324 --> 01:12:34.524
well.

1578
01:12:35.564 --> 01:12:35.814
Very good.

1579
01:12:36.204 --> 01:12:40.004
And just really quick, if I remember the numbers correctly, so the first matching

1580
01:12:40.064 --> 01:12:41.674
one is up to 1.5-

1581
01:12:42.024 --> 01:12:42.034
Yeah

1582
01:12:42.034 --> 01:12:43.204
... to acquire the land.

1583
01:12:43.384 --> 01:12:43.724
Correct.

1584
01:12:43.764 --> 01:12:47.544
And with an additional, phase two would be up to

1585
01:12:47.744 --> 01:12:48.364
20 million-

1586
01:12:48.644 --> 01:12:48.884
Correct

1587
01:12:48.894 --> 01:12:50.184
... with a 2 million match.

1588
01:12:50.484 --> 01:12:51.084
Correct. So it-

1589
01:12:51.094 --> 01:12:51.824
But that's down the line.

1590
01:12:51.984 --> 01:12:53.984
Correct. It's 50/50 match on the first one.

1591
01:12:54.064 --> 01:12:57.804
So we applied, we estimated at $3 million.

1592
01:12:58.044 --> 01:12:58.264
Mm-hmm.

1593
01:12:58.504 --> 01:13:01.804
And then the next phase for DCIP is

1594
01:13:02.144 --> 01:13:03.164
90/10 split.

1595
01:13:03.454 --> 01:13:03.454
Mm-hmm.

1596
01:13:03.484 --> 01:13:07.144
And so as part of the DART V2, so the

1597
01:13:07.224 --> 01:13:10.944
study that I have going on right now, looking at the flood risk for the

1598
01:13:11.004 --> 01:13:11.284
area,

1599
01:13:12.264 --> 01:13:16.204
one of the requirements is that they have a project developed

1600
01:13:16.264 --> 01:13:19.994
for that parcel of land so that we could have an idea of what it would cost so that

1601
01:13:20.044 --> 01:13:23.468
we can go out for a DCIPUm, project.

1602
01:13:23.938 --> 01:13:27.828
And so, the OLDCC, the Office of Local

1603
01:13:27.908 --> 01:13:31.128
Defense Community Cooperation, has been notified.

1604
01:13:31.208 --> 01:13:34.368
They are very aware that we are going after a DISA project.

1605
01:13:34.468 --> 01:13:38.128
So just for context, I have been working on this project since

1606
01:13:38.288 --> 01:13:38.868
2018.

1607
01:13:39.688 --> 01:13:43.668
So this has taken a while to get us here, and so they are very

1608
01:13:43.678 --> 01:13:47.648
supportive of this, and they are aware that this is coming.

1609
01:13:48.428 --> 01:13:51.928
And so when we wrote the grant, we were very specific.

1610
01:13:52.028 --> 01:13:55.788
I did take sections of the City of Warren's master

1611
01:13:55.868 --> 01:13:59.708
plan. So anything that dealt with your gray water infrastructure, anything

1612
01:13:59.748 --> 01:14:03.488
that dealt with your parks and recreation, any risks that you have to not just

1613
01:14:03.528 --> 01:14:07.448
manufacturing capabilities, but also your neighborhoods, were all put

1614
01:14:07.508 --> 01:14:11.448
into this package so that we were sure that we gave

1615
01:14:11.488 --> 01:14:15.468
a comprehensive overview of the benefits, not just to

1616
01:14:15.548 --> 01:14:18.028
the army, but to the city as a whole.

1617
01:14:18.568 --> 01:14:22.388
And so, I also felt it was important to tell you that, that we're very

1618
01:14:23.388 --> 01:14:27.318
mindful of your fiscal responsibilities, and that

1619
01:14:27.368 --> 01:14:30.798
what this financial outlay would mean for you, but that it also

1620
01:14:30.868 --> 01:14:34.828
does quite a bit to protect. Because I know financially what the

1621
01:14:34.908 --> 01:14:35.788
army incurred-

1622
01:14:36.308 --> 01:14:36.418
Mm-hmm

1623
01:14:36.908 --> 01:14:38.518
... in that flood in 2014,

1624
01:14:39.448 --> 01:14:43.328
and I also know what GM incurred, and I can tell you

1625
01:14:43.368 --> 01:14:47.268
based on the models that we're doing now, we can expect to see more

1626
01:14:47.308 --> 01:14:51.118
of that. And so our hope is that this provides you with a space

1627
01:14:51.148 --> 01:14:54.168
where we can have intentional stormwater detention,

1628
01:14:55.408 --> 01:14:57.088
but it serves dual purposes.

1629
01:14:58.048 --> 01:15:01.688
And so, I just want to make everybody know also, my

1630
01:15:01.728 --> 01:15:05.348
information is on that package. And so if you have any technical

1631
01:15:05.388 --> 01:15:08.868
questions or any additional questions or concerns, I'll be more than happy to

1632
01:15:08.948 --> 01:15:09.888
answer them for you.

1633
01:15:11.788 --> 01:15:13.628
So in summary, it's a win-win.

1634
01:15:13.968 --> 01:15:14.078
Yes, ma'am.

1635
01:15:14.078 --> 01:15:14.948
It's a win for the military.

1636
01:15:15.008 --> 01:15:15.258
Yes, ma'am.

1637
01:15:15.268 --> 01:15:19.038
It's a win for the city. We would acquire one of the largest

1638
01:15:19.988 --> 01:15:23.868
tree lots left in the city. Green spaces, tree canopy, which would allow us

1639
01:15:23.908 --> 01:15:27.868
to preserve that for stewardship and to help

1640
01:15:27.908 --> 01:15:29.868
mitigate water runoff.

1641
01:15:30.068 --> 01:15:30.468
Yes, ma'am.

1642
01:15:31.148 --> 01:15:31.828
Yeah. Questions?

1643
01:15:31.948 --> 01:15:34.328
Question. In the 2014 event-

1644
01:15:34.548 --> 01:15:34.728
Yes

1645
01:15:34.768 --> 01:15:38.728
... and since then, when we've had storm events, we've

1646
01:15:38.788 --> 01:15:41.888
had significant sewer backups

1647
01:15:42.548 --> 01:15:45.788
throughout the DDA and in surrounding neighborhoods.

1648
01:15:46.268 --> 01:15:49.928
Would that be something that is attempted to be addressed

1649
01:15:50.088 --> 01:15:53.948
here also through this? Because you said the electrical and the

1650
01:15:53.988 --> 01:15:55.168
wastewater treatment plant.

1651
01:15:55.488 --> 01:15:59.468
Yes. So we are building models, and so

1652
01:15:59.548 --> 01:16:03.528
what we will do is when we start to develop strategies to

1653
01:16:03.608 --> 01:16:04.668
mitigate the risk,

1654
01:16:05.608 --> 01:16:09.408
what happens is when you get large storm events,

1655
01:16:09.828 --> 01:16:10.468
Red Run

1656
01:16:11.388 --> 01:16:15.368
fills up and Bear Creek can no longer empty into Red Run, and it starts to

1657
01:16:15.388 --> 01:16:15.908
back up.

1658
01:16:16.728 --> 01:16:20.078
So what we're hoping to do is take that piece of land and take the water

1659
01:16:20.468 --> 01:16:24.068
that's pushing up against GM and the arsenal and hold it

1660
01:16:24.128 --> 01:16:27.948
intentionally in a spot instead of it just running wherever it's going to

1661
01:16:28.008 --> 01:16:29.448
go, because that's what water does.

1662
01:16:30.868 --> 01:16:34.388
The hope is that it would be a controlled release,

1663
01:16:35.128 --> 01:16:38.788
which would help with flooding. I can't speak to

1664
01:16:38.868 --> 01:16:40.748
where specifically in the system

1665
01:16:41.728 --> 01:16:45.488
that you're speaking to, but what I can tell you is there are

1666
01:16:45.508 --> 01:16:47.708
places that we know for a fact that we could protect.

1667
01:16:48.368 --> 01:16:51.888
And then there's additional land that we are looking at that the army owns, that

1668
01:16:51.908 --> 01:16:53.628
we're also talking to the city

1669
01:16:54.168 --> 01:16:57.228
for some additional flood detention.

1670
01:16:57.348 --> 01:17:00.908
So, I have been speaking with the DPW and the engineering

1671
01:17:00.968 --> 01:17:04.788
department, so this has not been something where we're

1672
01:17:04.808 --> 01:17:08.218
doing this in a vacuum where... I work in the DPW, so I

1673
01:17:08.268 --> 01:17:11.408
understand that sometimes the good idea fairy isn't always as good as it

1674
01:17:11.468 --> 01:17:15.268
seems. And so it's important that we work to make

1675
01:17:15.308 --> 01:17:18.998
sure that you have something that is engineered properly

1676
01:17:19.328 --> 01:17:22.728
and that can be properly maintained and serves its intended purpose.

1677
01:17:23.568 --> 01:17:25.928
But from a financial perspective,

1678
01:17:27.068 --> 01:17:29.468
this does a lot to protect.

1679
01:17:29.958 --> 01:17:33.788
The hope is that we don't

1680
01:17:33.868 --> 01:17:35.528
have not only the loss of

1681
01:17:37.608 --> 01:17:41.568
infrastructure or damage to properties, but you don't have loss

1682
01:17:41.648 --> 01:17:45.608
of time. So lost man-hours or anything like

1683
01:17:45.648 --> 01:17:45.848
that.

1684
01:17:46.728 --> 01:17:48.418
Kind of in summary, big picture.

1685
01:17:48.728 --> 01:17:49.748
Big picture, yes.

1686
01:17:49.888 --> 01:17:51.508
Part of a lot of moving pieces here.

1687
01:17:51.568 --> 01:17:55.428
And this is part of a greater strategy with the Red Run Drain District, right?

1688
01:17:55.528 --> 01:17:59.308
So we're working with our partners at Macomb and Oakland County to look at other

1689
01:17:59.388 --> 01:18:02.868
strategies for how water's being released in other detention basins.

1690
01:18:02.948 --> 01:18:05.788
So again, this isn't one small

1691
01:18:07.388 --> 01:18:11.118
little project. This is looked at as a greater

1692
01:18:11.128 --> 01:18:15.088
project, and hopefully all of those strategies help to

1693
01:18:15.128 --> 01:18:16.508
protect the area.

1694
01:18:18.808 --> 01:18:19.668
One quick question.

1695
01:18:19.868 --> 01:18:20.608
Yes, Oscar.

1696
01:18:22.068 --> 01:18:24.608
It sounds really good at first blush.

1697
01:18:25.008 --> 01:18:26.588
What my question was,

1698
01:18:27.928 --> 01:18:31.368
aside from the work out here by 12 and Mound on the Bear Creek,

1699
01:18:32.568 --> 01:18:36.508
is REPI looking into the possibility

1700
01:18:36.548 --> 01:18:40.128
of somehow-- Are you interested in just moving the water

1701
01:18:40.168 --> 01:18:44.028
expediently and safely, or is something going to

1702
01:18:44.048 --> 01:18:47.948
be done about treating the water? What I'm getting at is the raw

1703
01:18:48.028 --> 01:18:50.728
sewage that comes through Red Run, and it doesn't stop there.

1704
01:18:51.368 --> 01:18:53.098
Obviously, it ends up in Lake St. Clair.

1705
01:18:53.438 --> 01:18:53.948
Sure.

1706
01:18:54.028 --> 01:18:55.828
And they end up closing the beaches.

1707
01:18:55.908 --> 01:18:58.148
Is this something you're looking into addressing, maybe?

1708
01:18:58.208 --> 01:19:02.108
Is the release of their-- When we get a heavy rain, they release

1709
01:19:02.188 --> 01:19:05.108
out of Oakland County, and it all comes down Red Run?

1710
01:19:05.688 --> 01:19:05.868
So-

1711
01:19:05.968 --> 01:19:06.548
That's a great question

1712
01:19:06.988 --> 01:19:10.738
... I don't have the authority to speak for Oakland County, but what I can say is

1713
01:19:10.788 --> 01:19:14.048
that this project helps to

1714
01:19:14.088 --> 01:19:17.998
relieve stress on Red Run. And so what we are doing,

1715
01:19:18.068 --> 01:19:20.518
though, is we are working with both the counties.

1716
01:19:20.948 --> 01:19:24.808
The fact that this area hasn't been modeled in over 50 years,

1717
01:19:26.128 --> 01:19:30.058
there's a lot of opportunity spaces that we're looking at as part of

1718
01:19:30.088 --> 01:19:31.428
this project.

1719
01:19:31.528 --> 01:19:35.128
UmWhat I can tell you

1720
01:19:35.248 --> 01:19:35.658
is,

1721
01:19:37.028 --> 01:19:40.868
what it will do is it's going to hold the water back, and it's going to

1722
01:19:40.908 --> 01:19:44.848
allow it to run down through Bear Creek and enter into

1723
01:19:44.908 --> 01:19:47.008
Red Run at a more controlled pace.

1724
01:19:48.428 --> 01:19:51.908
So the goal is when it's designed, that it helps to

1725
01:19:51.968 --> 01:19:55.608
mitigate that. Because right now, for

1726
01:19:55.828 --> 01:19:59.788
example, this year, the state of Michigan, the entire state

1727
01:19:59.888 --> 01:20:03.688
of Michigan was under a state of emergency for

1728
01:20:03.808 --> 01:20:06.407
flood risk. And that's the first time that's ever happened.

1729
01:20:07.288 --> 01:20:11.088
And so based on the modeling that we're doing with the University of Michigan,

1730
01:20:11.788 --> 01:20:15.098
we anticipate that we're going to see more

1731
01:20:15.148 --> 01:20:17.668
increased flood events like that.

1732
01:20:18.768 --> 01:20:21.108
There's a lot of things that were paved over.

1733
01:20:21.148 --> 01:20:24.737
There's a lot of things that get paved over in outer ring suburbs that

1734
01:20:25.308 --> 01:20:27.548
impact how things happen down here.

1735
01:20:27.628 --> 01:20:31.568
So what we're trying to do is mitigate that risk to the

1736
01:20:31.588 --> 01:20:35.448
best of our ability, not just for now, but moving forward as part of a regional

1737
01:20:35.508 --> 01:20:35.948
strategy.

1738
01:20:36.368 --> 01:20:36.608
Thank you.

1739
01:20:37.188 --> 01:20:41.168
And Tina Getcha, city engineer, has been at the table through many

1740
01:20:41.228 --> 01:20:42.298
of these discussions-

1741
01:20:42.408 --> 01:20:42.418
Yep

1742
01:20:42.418 --> 01:20:43.598
... and looking at-

1743
01:20:43.988 --> 01:20:44.108
Yes

1744
01:20:44.208 --> 01:20:46.308
... how do we engineer environmental-

1745
01:20:46.808 --> 01:20:47.048
Yes

1746
01:20:47.168 --> 01:20:49.508
... solutions to water, water runoff-

1747
01:20:49.688 --> 01:20:49.868
Yes

1748
01:20:50.028 --> 01:20:50.508
... detention.

1749
01:20:50.568 --> 01:20:52.588
I'm actually supposed to go up to her office when I leave here.

1750
01:20:52.868 --> 01:20:53.268
Very good.

1751
01:20:54.448 --> 01:20:54.728
Gina?

1752
01:20:55.168 --> 01:20:57.788
Is there an opportunity as through the

1753
01:20:58.508 --> 01:21:02.228
mitigation that we're looking at to incorporate

1754
01:21:02.608 --> 01:21:03.868
public recreational

1755
01:21:05.008 --> 01:21:07.348
activities and opportunities throughout?

1756
01:21:07.408 --> 01:21:10.598
For example, I had the opportunity this weekend to

1757
01:21:11.748 --> 01:21:15.268
visit Buffalo Bayou in Houston, which

1758
01:21:15.348 --> 01:21:19.188
is basically a beautiful park that is a storm

1759
01:21:19.228 --> 01:21:19.628
water-

1760
01:21:19.988 --> 01:21:20.188
Mm-hmm

1761
01:21:20.308 --> 01:21:24.248
... mitigation project, and that would be wonderful to have as an asset

1762
01:21:24.268 --> 01:21:25.058
in this community.

1763
01:21:25.248 --> 01:21:26.448
You want to speak to that, Hunter?

1764
01:21:26.508 --> 01:21:29.188
Yes. So that's definitely an option that we would be exploring.

1765
01:21:29.428 --> 01:21:31.528
That would be, you could call it phase three.

1766
01:21:31.548 --> 01:21:35.528
Phase two, building the detention infrastructure so that we can treat the

1767
01:21:36.488 --> 01:21:40.428
excess water, and that is something that came up very early on that we

1768
01:21:40.448 --> 01:21:43.908
were kind of excited about. And so that would be a phase three that we would piece

1769
01:21:43.918 --> 01:21:47.228
together and give people more access to nature

1770
01:21:47.308 --> 01:21:51.098
and what exact form that would take, we're not sure yet, but that's something that

1771
01:21:51.128 --> 01:21:54.288
we would very much so like to do after

1772
01:21:55.228 --> 01:21:56.248
these initial efforts, so.

1773
01:21:57.348 --> 01:21:57.568
Mm-hmm.

1774
01:21:58.888 --> 01:22:02.788
It is a tremendous opportunity, arguably a once in

1775
01:22:02.868 --> 01:22:04.048
a lifetime opportunity-

1776
01:22:04.648 --> 01:22:04.658
Arguably

1777
01:22:04.658 --> 01:22:05.468
... years in the making.

1778
01:22:05.588 --> 01:22:05.788
Yes.

1779
01:22:06.168 --> 01:22:06.288
Yeah.

1780
01:22:06.408 --> 01:22:06.867
Good work.

1781
01:22:07.288 --> 01:22:07.628
Thank you.

1782
01:22:07.688 --> 01:22:08.128
Madam Mayor?

1783
01:22:08.468 --> 01:22:09.348
Yes, Councilman.

1784
01:22:10.428 --> 01:22:11.168
I just want to thank you.

1785
01:22:12.068 --> 01:22:15.468
The council just recently passed a resolution supporting

1786
01:22:16.468 --> 01:22:19.588
the cleanup of Red Run, recited the damage that was done in

1787
01:22:20.168 --> 01:22:20.728
GM and

1788
01:22:22.428 --> 01:22:23.948
the military facility.

1789
01:22:25.148 --> 01:22:27.588
I was privileged to see some of the pictures of GM.

1790
01:22:29.508 --> 01:22:33.468
Suffered a lot of damage. I didn't see yours, but I'm sure there was

1791
01:22:33.508 --> 01:22:33.867
a lot.

1792
01:22:34.988 --> 01:22:34.998
Yes.

1793
01:22:35.008 --> 01:22:38.448
Presently working with Candace Miller's office, and I guess there's a

1794
01:22:38.648 --> 01:22:42.228
report that's coming out very shortly, I guess the Army Corps of Engineers

1795
01:22:42.668 --> 01:22:46.488
is coming out with a report that's supposed to be significant.

1796
01:22:46.498 --> 01:22:47.288
It'll help us.

1797
01:22:47.748 --> 01:22:47.968
Yes.

1798
01:22:48.048 --> 01:22:50.448
I don't know if you aware of that. I'm sure.

1799
01:22:50.468 --> 01:22:53.748
So the one project that we're doing is actually working in tandem with the Army

1800
01:22:53.828 --> 01:22:55.337
Corps of Engineers project as well.

1801
01:22:55.368 --> 01:22:56.488
Great. Thank you.

1802
01:22:57.448 --> 01:22:58.268
Long time coming.

1803
01:22:58.448 --> 01:22:58.908
Yes, sir.

1804
01:23:00.488 --> 01:23:04.268
I think there's a couple other items on our agenda that we want to speak to.

1805
01:23:04.348 --> 01:23:07.048
And so, is there any other questions or discussion?

1806
01:23:07.088 --> 01:23:07.897
Appreciate having

1807
01:23:09.168 --> 01:23:11.668
our experts to respond.

1808
01:23:12.388 --> 01:23:15.328
And if there is anything extra, you can reach out to either Shannon or myself.

1809
01:23:15.368 --> 01:23:17.548
We'd be happy to answer any more detailed questions.

1810
01:23:18.948 --> 01:23:21.298
Is this entirely the next fiscal year

1811
01:23:22.148 --> 01:23:24.198
or is any part of it needing-

1812
01:23:24.248 --> 01:23:24.408
Yes

1813
01:23:24.418 --> 01:23:25.397
... to be approved for this year?

1814
01:23:25.428 --> 01:23:26.788
Well, this is-

1815
01:23:26.798 --> 01:23:30.428
So the ask is for the acquisition phase one, which is the up

1816
01:23:30.488 --> 01:23:33.788
to $1.5 million, and that would be acquisition.

1817
01:23:33.828 --> 01:23:37.748
In future years, we would handle the DCIP and construction, which

1818
01:23:37.768 --> 01:23:41.448
would be separate from this. So this ask is simply

1819
01:23:41.528 --> 01:23:43.268
for the initial phase.

1820
01:23:43.588 --> 01:23:45.128
But what's the timing of it?

1821
01:23:45.188 --> 01:23:49.068
So they're cur-- Sorry to jump in, but there's properties on the

1822
01:23:49.128 --> 01:23:49.448
map-

1823
01:23:49.728 --> 01:23:49.748
Yep

1824
01:23:49.758 --> 01:23:53.548
... that there's currently discussions on acquiring, and

1825
01:23:53.588 --> 01:23:55.768
so those set into motion...

1826
01:23:56.788 --> 01:24:00.408
And so it takes having this money in order to be able to finalize

1827
01:24:00.488 --> 01:24:00.888
those.

1828
01:24:01.388 --> 01:24:01.508
So,

1829
01:24:02.568 --> 01:24:06.368
I have been working with the Army Environmental Command on a cooperative

1830
01:24:06.408 --> 01:24:10.328
agreement, and so I let Ms. Michaels know that we will be sending that over.

1831
01:24:10.348 --> 01:24:14.128
And then once conversations begin with the family, the

1832
01:24:14.188 --> 01:24:15.408
expectation is,

1833
01:24:16.308 --> 01:24:17.188
through the

1834
01:24:18.228 --> 01:24:21.658
accounting processes that need to happen at the city, as soon as the cooperative

1835
01:24:21.728 --> 01:24:24.988
agreement is signed, the expectation is that the money would be sent down to the

1836
01:24:25.008 --> 01:24:28.938
city. So the goal is to have this done

1837
01:24:28.988 --> 01:24:32.788
as quickly as the cooperative agreements and

1838
01:24:32.828 --> 01:24:34.968
negotiations with the parcel owners happen.

1839
01:24:36.488 --> 01:24:38.268
Coupled with a commitment for funding.

1840
01:24:38.828 --> 01:24:39.288
Yes.

1841
01:24:39.348 --> 01:24:39.908
Yeah.

1842
01:24:40.468 --> 01:24:42.908
And then once this is solidified,

1843
01:24:44.268 --> 01:24:47.928
we are working with other partners to begin the next phase.

1844
01:24:48.008 --> 01:24:50.228
I'm actually writing that grant up now, actually.

1845
01:24:54.408 --> 01:24:54.668
Terry?

1846
01:24:54.868 --> 01:24:55.248
All set?

1847
01:24:56.268 --> 01:24:56.508
Okay.

1848
01:24:56.648 --> 01:24:58.128
Just a follow reading question.

1849
01:24:58.928 --> 01:25:00.688
What is Hunter's position in the budget here?

1850
01:25:02.228 --> 01:25:04.078
Hunter works for economic development.

1851
01:25:04.158 --> 01:25:06.108
He's not on city payroll. Oh, okay.

1852
01:25:06.308 --> 01:25:07.628
So he's in the community and-

1853
01:25:07.988 --> 01:25:10.488
We can't lose him. Good employee.

1854
01:25:10.508 --> 01:25:10.518
Oh, okay.

1855
01:25:10.528 --> 01:25:11.728
Very valuable. Thank you.

1856
01:25:12.648 --> 01:25:15.948
I was going to say, DDA only funds the two positions directly.

1857
01:25:16.308 --> 01:25:16.318
Okay.

1858
01:25:16.348 --> 01:25:16.648
Yeah.

1859
01:25:18.848 --> 01:25:19.648
What other items?

1860
01:25:19.728 --> 01:25:20.058
Well, so-

1861
01:25:20.068 --> 01:25:20.488
Thank you

1862
01:25:20.548 --> 01:25:24.348
... we did some of the other things, and again, on page 59,

1863
01:25:24.448 --> 01:25:25.328
just to highlight it,

1864
01:25:26.288 --> 01:25:27.048
we did have

1865
01:25:28.128 --> 01:25:31.788
the police lobby renovations was listed originally to

1866
01:25:31.828 --> 01:25:35.740
council at 94,000And we found out from

1867
01:25:35.780 --> 01:25:39.700
the police that actually they're looking for $120,000

1868
01:25:39.780 --> 01:25:43.500
to finish that. And then there were some questions

1869
01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:47.260
on the Critical Connect and Tyler Technologies.

1870
01:25:47.800 --> 01:25:48.860
But we did ask the

1871
01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:53.719
policeman to come and kind of give us an update on what those are.

1872
01:25:56.220 --> 01:25:56.620
Captain?

1873
01:26:01.120 --> 01:26:04.079
How are you doing? Captain Brent Chisholm, police administration.

1874
01:26:05.260 --> 01:26:06.660
I guess the deputy commissioner is going to sit down.

1875
01:26:08.020 --> 01:26:09.020
He has every faith in you.

1876
01:26:09.100 --> 01:26:12.900
Yeah. Any questions that you have about any of the projects that we've requested

1877
01:26:12.940 --> 01:26:14.420
from the DDA, we'd be happy to answer.

1878
01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:18.130
One of the first things that you'll see is the lobby renovation.

1879
01:26:18.520 --> 01:26:20.360
Many of you probably haven't been into the police department

1880
01:26:22.100 --> 01:26:26.060
recently. The police department was built in the 1970s and the lobby reflects that.

1881
01:26:26.380 --> 01:26:29.220
So we'd like to bring the lobby to match the

1882
01:26:30.540 --> 01:26:32.700
pavement that the DDA funded on the outside.

1883
01:26:32.760 --> 01:26:35.600
That outside of the building looks very good.

1884
01:26:35.840 --> 01:26:39.090
We're finishing up that private plan for some nice landscaping outside.

1885
01:26:39.120 --> 01:26:40.380
We'd like to bring the lobby up to date.

1886
01:26:40.780 --> 01:26:43.760
So that's one of the big renovations that we're excited about.

1887
01:26:44.190 --> 01:26:46.860
If you have any specific questions about any of the items, we are happy to discuss

1888
01:26:46.880 --> 01:26:47.060
them.

1889
01:26:47.580 --> 01:26:51.010
Can you give just a brief description of what Tyler Technology

1890
01:26:51.260 --> 01:26:51.970
looks like

1891
01:26:53.260 --> 01:26:53.890
for policing?

1892
01:26:54.560 --> 01:26:57.900
Yeah. So Tyler Technologies is a computer-aided dispatch product.

1893
01:26:57.980 --> 01:27:01.740
And so police officers respond to calls in a car, but they have a

1894
01:27:01.800 --> 01:27:04.590
laptop computer that's in there. It's a rugged laptop.

1895
01:27:05.180 --> 01:27:09.070
And what computer-aided dispatching does is it provides officers with information

1896
01:27:09.080 --> 01:27:12.800
about that call that they can see. Tyler Technologies is an advanced

1897
01:27:12.810 --> 01:27:16.590
product that allows them to understand trends,

1898
01:27:16.900 --> 01:27:20.730
things that are going on in that area that they're responding to, and can help

1899
01:27:20.740 --> 01:27:24.700
really integrate with videos a- and provide the officers with a lot of

1900
01:27:24.740 --> 01:27:28.120
information that they can use when they're responding to a call.

1901
01:27:28.200 --> 01:27:32.160
One of the most impactful ways for police officers to respond

1902
01:27:32.180 --> 01:27:35.640
effectively to calls is to have a lot of information before they get there.

1903
01:27:35.680 --> 01:27:39.340
Tyler Technologies is the CAD product that we believe will

1904
01:27:39.420 --> 01:27:43.380
deliver that information ahead of time while the officers are responding

1905
01:27:43.479 --> 01:27:47.240
so they can make informed decisions on the way there and when they get there.

1906
01:27:49.440 --> 01:27:53.420
Very good. Any questions about how these impact

1907
01:27:53.580 --> 01:27:53.940
PD?

1908
01:27:55.250 --> 01:27:55.250
Gina?

1909
01:27:55.300 --> 01:27:56.400
I just have two comments.

1910
01:27:58.360 --> 01:28:02.160
I think we need a new police department, not to continue to invest

1911
01:28:02.240 --> 01:28:03.660
money in the old one,

1912
01:28:05.120 --> 01:28:06.940
because we're seeing a lot of

1913
01:28:08.900 --> 01:28:12.220
upgrades that are needed to a very, very old building.

1914
01:28:13.840 --> 01:28:15.000
And number two,

1915
01:28:16.280 --> 01:28:19.920
my just general request is the next time we have a

1916
01:28:19.940 --> 01:28:23.760
police and fire millage, I think that we should really look

1917
01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:26.220
at-- as a voter,

1918
01:28:27.040 --> 01:28:30.980
when I vote for a police and fire millage, I'm supporting

1919
01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:35.510
things like technology that the police department needs

1920
01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:39.100
to do their job. And I would love to,

1921
01:28:39.440 --> 01:28:43.040
back to the how are we looking at all of this comprehensively, it would be

1922
01:28:43.080 --> 01:28:46.700
great to understand how all of that fits together

1923
01:28:46.740 --> 01:28:50.680
instead of just, "All right, let's push a renewal through." I think that

1924
01:28:50.720 --> 01:28:54.710
the voters would be very interested in supporting the police department and

1925
01:28:54.720 --> 01:28:57.690
the fire department and the needs that you have departmentally.

1926
01:28:58.660 --> 01:28:59.470
Yeah.

1927
01:29:00.300 --> 01:29:04.040
Speaking to the first question, I think we were quoted about

1928
01:29:04.260 --> 01:29:07.520
120 in bonding capability if we were to max out,

1929
01:29:08.300 --> 01:29:09.420
hit the bullseye.

1930
01:29:10.400 --> 01:29:14.000
And gauging by combined

1931
01:29:14.060 --> 01:29:16.920
justice centers, I think Lansing is the most current.

1932
01:29:17.530 --> 01:29:18.560
That is

1933
01:29:20.140 --> 01:29:22.060
gauging about 178 million.

1934
01:29:22.950 --> 01:29:22.950
Yes, ma'am.

1935
01:29:22.950 --> 01:29:23.200
Which

1936
01:29:24.060 --> 01:29:27.540
in concert between courts and PD,

1937
01:29:28.800 --> 01:29:32.790
that takes us past our bonding capability

1938
01:29:32.820 --> 01:29:36.470
for that, and that would exhaust everything from the public

1939
01:29:36.520 --> 01:29:40.100
investment for a DDA district. Is there additional

1940
01:29:40.140 --> 01:29:43.970
infrastructure investment we would need for parks or

1941
01:29:44.140 --> 01:29:48.100
recreational building? And so that gets at the heart of we're looking for

1942
01:29:48.160 --> 01:29:52.060
real numbers and real values because these are going to take

1943
01:29:52.120 --> 01:29:56.020
important decisions and prioritization on where

1944
01:29:56.080 --> 01:30:00.030
these dollars are committed to because it's going to tie our hands to what

1945
01:30:00.100 --> 01:30:03.900
other choices we can make. So trying to get real dollars

1946
01:30:04.020 --> 01:30:07.640
so when that decision is before us, we have it.

1947
01:30:07.670 --> 01:30:11.540
And just to gauge, when it's 60 million over

1948
01:30:11.580 --> 01:30:13.300
our bonding capability,

1949
01:30:15.120 --> 01:30:19.100
one of the realistic questions is how long and how do we make

1950
01:30:19.140 --> 01:30:23.040
it last in the meantime? So just to kind of add some

1951
01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:24.540
context.

1952
01:30:26.140 --> 01:30:29.660
When the city does that assessment, could you

1953
01:30:29.840 --> 01:30:33.020
also include in the assessment the long-term

1954
01:30:33.220 --> 01:30:35.100
operational implications-

1955
01:30:35.700 --> 01:30:36.360
Absolutely

1956
01:30:36.400 --> 01:30:37.160
... the operational costs?

1957
01:30:40.440 --> 01:30:40.840
Yes.

1958
01:30:41.700 --> 01:30:43.060
I think that would be really helpful for-

1959
01:30:43.520 --> 01:30:44.060
Absolutely

1960
01:30:44.080 --> 01:30:47.260
... the decision making collectively.

1961
01:30:49.280 --> 01:30:51.440
Any other questions to these two items?

1962
01:30:53.160 --> 01:30:55.860
Is there any more-- Do we want to do any discussion around those?

1963
01:30:58.000 --> 01:30:59.300
Okay. Thank you.

1964
01:30:59.600 --> 01:30:59.880
Thank you.

1965
01:31:01.740 --> 01:31:05.300
So Mayor, the next one we have the capital improvement refunding

1966
01:31:05.400 --> 01:31:07.460
bonds. I think, Rick, you were going to

1967
01:31:08.460 --> 01:31:12.060
just explain what that is. We had a couple of the board wondering what that-

1968
01:31:13.540 --> 01:31:14.480
Communications.

1969
01:31:14.560 --> 01:31:14.760
Yes.

1970
01:31:15.180 --> 01:31:15.340
Yep.

1971
01:31:16.800 --> 01:31:18.200
Yeah. Richard Fox, city controller.

1972
01:31:19.140 --> 01:31:20.540
That item, communications

1973
01:31:21.540 --> 01:31:23.120
in their budget process,

1974
01:31:24.800 --> 01:31:26.020
revenues for their

1975
01:31:27.120 --> 01:31:30.640
department have been going down steadily each year

1976
01:31:30.860 --> 01:31:32.320
because of streaming. So-

1977
01:31:32.680 --> 01:31:32.690
Mm-hmm

1978
01:31:32.690 --> 01:31:35.980
... in order for them to get through this budget

1979
01:31:36.000 --> 01:31:39.672
yearI'm putting the bond

1980
01:31:39.932 --> 01:31:43.852
payment for them, that's the last one that they have for the community center,

1981
01:31:44.562 --> 01:31:48.452
and requesting the DDA pay for that in order for them to survive for

1982
01:31:48.472 --> 01:31:48.932
another year.

1983
01:31:50.372 --> 01:31:54.072
And for clarification, the community center is part of our

1984
01:31:54.112 --> 01:31:54.652
DDA.

1985
01:31:54.832 --> 01:31:54.872
They-

1986
01:31:54.882 --> 01:31:56.112
It's within the footprint.

1987
01:31:56.232 --> 01:31:58.432
They are. Yes.

1988
01:32:02.632 --> 01:32:04.212
Any questions or discussions?

1989
01:32:04.532 --> 01:32:05.862
Okay. Any questions from the floor on that, Gina's?

1990
01:32:06.112 --> 01:32:07.352
So Rick, you're also

1991
01:32:08.972 --> 01:32:12.672
here. At council, Ms. Moore had brought up maybe the

1992
01:32:12.712 --> 01:32:16.512
library would be able to pay this HVAC unit, so I did

1993
01:32:16.552 --> 01:32:17.652
leave an item here for-

1994
01:32:17.772 --> 01:32:17.952
Yeah.

1995
01:32:19.072 --> 01:32:22.792
So yeah, I believe the library will be able to pay that, so we can deduct

1996
01:32:22.852 --> 01:32:24.532
that or take that out of the...

1997
01:32:26.612 --> 01:32:28.252
I have a question on a different item.

1998
01:32:28.312 --> 01:32:28.612
Yes.

1999
01:32:28.682 --> 01:32:31.432
So for the replacement of the windows,

2000
01:32:32.352 --> 01:32:35.992
with the removal of the library, maybe

2001
01:32:36.432 --> 01:32:40.392
equipment to maintain the windows might be added

2002
01:32:40.402 --> 01:32:40.792
to the

2003
01:32:41.912 --> 01:32:42.832
capital budget.

2004
01:32:43.452 --> 01:32:44.972
Dave, do you want to speak to that?

2005
01:32:50.012 --> 01:32:52.132
Can you give us a historic look back at

2006
01:32:53.292 --> 01:32:54.132
how and what this

2007
01:32:55.672 --> 01:32:56.112
looks like?

2008
01:32:56.412 --> 01:32:58.332
Good afternoon. Dave Mosier, the public service director.

2009
01:32:58.912 --> 01:32:59.852
Actually, yes, that is

2010
01:33:00.672 --> 01:33:04.612
our intention. Years ago, the cleaning of the windows was removed out

2011
01:33:04.632 --> 01:33:08.452
of the budget. Unfortunately, after years of neglect of not getting

2012
01:33:08.532 --> 01:33:12.272
cleaned and not getting cleaned, the windows have become etched with that

2013
01:33:12.352 --> 01:33:16.172
dirt. We've had multiple companies come out and say that they could clean it.

2014
01:33:17.052 --> 01:33:17.612
They couldn't.

2015
01:33:18.452 --> 01:33:20.992
So we've had some that even came out, tried it-

2016
01:33:21.332 --> 01:33:21.402
Mm-hmm

2017
01:33:21.402 --> 01:33:24.582
... and stopped mid-window, said, "Nope, it's way worse than we thought it

2018
01:33:24.672 --> 01:33:27.422
was." Jeff has made a lot of

2019
01:33:28.032 --> 01:33:29.812
calls with different window companies.

2020
01:33:29.872 --> 01:33:32.752
We think this is the best course of action.

2021
01:33:33.152 --> 01:33:33.912
And yes, we

2022
01:33:34.812 --> 01:33:37.692
actually, I don't know if you've seen this technology before, but we've used it

2023
01:33:37.792 --> 01:33:41.602
over at the water department and it worked fantastically, and I know we brought

2024
01:33:41.852 --> 01:33:44.242
drones up multiple times this evening, but

2025
01:33:45.072 --> 01:33:49.012
we use drones. They had a truck with a drone attached to it, and the

2026
01:33:49.052 --> 01:33:52.912
drone goes up, sprays it with soap, goes back and comes again

2027
01:33:52.952 --> 01:33:56.532
with clean water and cleans it, and we can clean our own windows anytime we

2028
01:33:56.632 --> 01:34:00.312
want. So that way we don't have to worry about it, and we'll clean them.

2029
01:34:00.812 --> 01:34:03.152
And we can also market that as a drone show.

2030
01:34:03.452 --> 01:34:03.872
Absolutely.

2031
01:34:03.912 --> 01:34:04.032
Yeah.

2032
01:34:05.292 --> 01:34:05.722
We can even-

2033
01:34:05.752 --> 01:34:06.292
It's a water-

2034
01:34:06.832 --> 01:34:08.712
We can use it at parks-

2035
01:34:08.752 --> 01:34:08.842
A water

2036
01:34:08.842 --> 01:34:09.852
... and rec for the foam show.

2037
01:34:10.012 --> 01:34:10.372
Can we-

2038
01:34:10.382 --> 01:34:10.962
We can shoot foam

2039
01:34:10.962 --> 01:34:11.592
... can we use it over the-

2040
01:34:12.032 --> 01:34:12.682
Yeah. Yeah.

2041
01:34:12.692 --> 01:34:13.182
... the fountain?

2042
01:34:14.152 --> 01:34:18.052
Now, that 75,000, is that strictly windows or does

2043
01:34:18.092 --> 01:34:20.332
that include that drone technology?

2044
01:34:20.392 --> 01:34:24.372
That does not include the drone, and that's not all of the windows on the front

2045
01:34:24.472 --> 01:34:27.152
either, I believe. I believe he wants to do it in two sections.

2046
01:34:27.172 --> 01:34:27.892
We're going a row at a time?

2047
01:34:28.172 --> 01:34:31.832
I believe he's got it mapped out into two sections because he thought the

2048
01:34:31.892 --> 01:34:34.412
cost was going to be too much to ask for at one time.

2049
01:34:35.332 --> 01:34:35.592
So...

2050
01:34:36.532 --> 01:34:40.412
So perhaps we can amend it to do the job, to

2051
01:34:40.452 --> 01:34:41.312
get the job done.

2052
01:34:41.932 --> 01:34:42.392
Do we...

2053
01:34:43.812 --> 01:34:45.232
The 150,000?

2054
01:34:46.072 --> 01:34:49.332
I think another factor in, and again, I

2055
01:34:49.552 --> 01:34:53.032
apologize for not being well prepared, Jeff kind of got called away at short

2056
01:34:53.112 --> 01:34:53.572
notice.

2057
01:34:54.612 --> 01:34:58.412
There was a question on this specific type of glass is very hard

2058
01:34:58.452 --> 01:35:01.252
to get. They only manufacture it when needed.

2059
01:35:01.332 --> 01:35:05.242
So there was another call that they might not be able to make enough glass at

2060
01:35:05.332 --> 01:35:06.052
one time.

2061
01:35:07.132 --> 01:35:10.252
So that was the other thing about getting it to us.

2062
01:35:10.492 --> 01:35:14.452
When we broke one of the windows over in the library, that took us

2063
01:35:14.532 --> 01:35:16.432
four months to get one piece of glass.

2064
01:35:17.332 --> 01:35:18.761
So, that might have-

2065
01:35:18.772 --> 01:35:19.682
From up through Cure Video

2066
01:35:19.682 --> 01:35:22.792
... might have also gone into the consideration of only doing one section at a

2067
01:35:22.852 --> 01:35:23.152
time.

2068
01:35:23.832 --> 01:35:24.592
So a two-phase?

2069
01:35:24.772 --> 01:35:26.032
Yeah.

2070
01:35:26.072 --> 01:35:27.572
Dave, can I, how long would it take?

2071
01:35:27.672 --> 01:35:31.592
Because if we're talking about '27, the whole year doesn't even start.

2072
01:35:31.672 --> 01:35:33.162
So to Gina's point-

2073
01:35:33.512 --> 01:35:35.172
I just wanted to throw that out there

2074
01:35:35.192 --> 01:35:36.082
... if we ask drones for the front end-

2075
01:35:36.082 --> 01:35:38.752
If we get the money, I'm sure we could do it over the time.

2076
01:35:38.912 --> 01:35:41.092
I don't know what Jeff's calculations were.

2077
01:35:41.152 --> 01:35:44.412
Like I said, he asked me to just show up and speak on his behalf kind of last

2078
01:35:44.482 --> 01:35:47.012
minute. So I only had the brief overview.

2079
01:35:47.812 --> 01:35:51.572
But that's why he said he wanted was the cost was his concern.

2080
01:35:51.632 --> 01:35:55.312
He didn't think you guys would approve the 150, so he wanted to go phase by,

2081
01:35:55.391 --> 01:35:56.292
phase it in.

2082
01:35:56.772 --> 01:36:00.692
I can't emphasize enough how meticulous

2083
01:36:00.732 --> 01:36:04.592
our department heads are as good stewards of tax dollars, and they

2084
01:36:04.632 --> 01:36:08.612
try to be conservative and conscientious with

2085
01:36:08.692 --> 01:36:11.692
how they implement projects to be cost-effective.

2086
01:36:12.552 --> 01:36:16.112
And those, if you notice, the top windows are way worse than the bottom

2087
01:36:16.152 --> 01:36:17.812
windows. They're all bad.

2088
01:36:18.652 --> 01:36:22.292
I'm not going to sugarcoat it. They're horrible. It looks bad.

2089
01:36:22.332 --> 01:36:24.272
And actually, cleaning it made it look worse.

2090
01:36:24.832 --> 01:36:27.352
And if half of them are new, the other half are going to look-

2091
01:36:27.532 --> 01:36:27.772
Yeah

2092
01:36:28.032 --> 01:36:30.132
... so... It's going to be like painting half of a room.

2093
01:36:30.212 --> 01:36:31.292
Yeah, I agree.

2094
01:36:32.032 --> 01:36:32.672
So, I-

2095
01:36:33.332 --> 01:36:37.312
If we commit the 150,000 and we contract for

2096
01:36:37.392 --> 01:36:39.272
it, it will follow it-

2097
01:36:39.772 --> 01:36:39.782
Yeah

2098
01:36:39.782 --> 01:36:42.632
... even if we can't get all the supply chain-

2099
01:36:42.732 --> 01:36:43.692
Like any other supply and-

2100
01:36:44.022 --> 01:36:44.022
In one

2101
01:36:44.022 --> 01:36:47.472
... if any other supply and demand, if you tell them that you want these, they'll

2102
01:36:47.512 --> 01:36:48.732
make it, you know.

2103
01:36:50.512 --> 01:36:52.672
And if you only get half done, we can always do it-

2104
01:36:53.072 --> 01:36:54.212
Half in the spring, yeah

2105
01:36:54.332 --> 01:36:55.472
... in an appropriation and just move it forward.

2106
01:36:55.532 --> 01:36:58.972
But if we can budget for it, we can at least try to get it done.

2107
01:37:00.192 --> 01:37:02.042
Any questions or concerns to that-

2108
01:37:02.972 --> 01:37:03.252
Yeah, I-

2109
01:37:03.282 --> 01:37:03.822
Support of?

2110
01:37:04.912 --> 01:37:05.132
My

2111
01:37:06.072 --> 01:37:07.012
input would be

2112
01:37:07.932 --> 01:37:11.792
I'd prefer to get the whole job done and also have a plan to

2113
01:37:11.832 --> 01:37:12.972
properly maintain it.

2114
01:37:13.872 --> 01:37:17.542
Do we have an estimate on how much a maintenance drone or

2115
01:37:17.572 --> 01:37:19.732
contractual services for that would cost?

2116
01:37:19.772 --> 01:37:21.792
The drone was actually surprisingly cheap.

2117
01:37:21.852 --> 01:37:24.052
It was literally only like $8,000.

2118
01:37:24.092 --> 01:37:27.632
That didn't include the truck or the box, but that was minimal cost, too.

2119
01:37:27.752 --> 01:37:30.192
The drone and the hoses were like eight grand.

2120
01:37:31.112 --> 01:37:34.992
Can you give us a ballpark if we were to do the whole setup, where that

2121
01:37:35.012 --> 01:37:35.712
would put us?

2122
01:37:36.392 --> 01:37:37.822
We could probably use it into one-

2123
01:37:37.892 --> 01:37:37.902
Thirds?

2124
01:37:37.902 --> 01:37:39.222
... of our existing pickup trucks.

2125
01:37:39.592 --> 01:37:42.232
We could probably get the whole thing accomplished under 20

2126
01:37:43.272 --> 01:37:43.732
Reasonable?

2127
01:37:44.312 --> 01:37:48.072
So maybe we also add $20,000 for the

2128
01:37:48.732 --> 01:37:49.552
drone equipment?

2129
01:37:50.352 --> 01:37:50.892
What is that?

2130
01:37:51.092 --> 01:37:51.372
Equipment.

2131
01:37:51.552 --> 01:37:53.292
Round it off to 175?

2132
01:37:54.552 --> 01:37:58.532
So I could change our suggested amendment to

2133
01:37:58.712 --> 01:37:59.932
175 with the

2134
01:38:01.092 --> 01:38:04.972
notation for council on what that's for in the process.

2135
01:38:06.672 --> 01:38:08.972
Is anyone in controller's office putting their hands up?

2136
01:38:09.032 --> 01:38:09.952
Is that okay?

2137
01:38:10.332 --> 01:38:10.992
Not a problem.

2138
01:38:11.172 --> 01:38:11.452
Okay.

2139
01:38:14.532 --> 01:38:16.732
Do we have consensus on board that these are-

2140
01:38:18.832 --> 01:38:19.502
Sounds brilliant

2141
01:38:19.502 --> 01:38:20.032
... in agreement?

2142
01:38:21.152 --> 01:38:21.552
Okay.

2143
01:38:21.572 --> 01:38:25.512
Okay. The next one I don't have. The next one,

2144
01:38:25.552 --> 01:38:29.432
Mayor, that we have on here that I didn't highlight, but we did have

2145
01:38:29.472 --> 01:38:33.252
some question about was the generator for City Hall

2146
01:38:33.332 --> 01:38:33.592
here.

2147
01:38:34.752 --> 01:38:35.312
Shimon's here?

2148
01:38:35.832 --> 01:38:37.512
But I think Shimon had some-

2149
01:38:37.552 --> 01:38:37.692
Or-

2150
01:38:38.182 --> 01:38:38.982
... concerns about-

2151
01:38:39.012 --> 01:38:40.591
Both of you? Come on up.

2152
01:38:45.472 --> 01:38:45.661
Can you-

2153
01:38:45.661 --> 01:38:47.792
Can you speak to the infrastructure we currently have?

2154
01:38:48.132 --> 01:38:49.692
Correct. So the

2155
01:38:51.772 --> 01:38:54.272
building was built to have three generators.

2156
01:38:54.292 --> 01:38:57.852
The controls that we have are constantly looking for the other two generators.

2157
01:38:57.912 --> 01:39:00.792
We only installed one when the building was built.

2158
01:39:01.052 --> 01:39:04.452
The thought process was that we were going to add the other two eventually.

2159
01:39:04.462 --> 01:39:07.092
20 years later, we still haven't added the other two.

2160
01:39:07.132 --> 01:39:11.022
The problem is now this generator is not enough to carry everything that's

2161
01:39:11.052 --> 01:39:14.832
in this building. The controls are failing because they're

2162
01:39:14.872 --> 01:39:17.372
constantly looking for the other problems.

2163
01:39:18.632 --> 01:39:21.372
This generator is at its end of life.

2164
01:39:21.672 --> 01:39:25.612
We have spent the engineering money to have the engineering study done for a

2165
01:39:25.812 --> 01:39:27.332
new whole building generator.

2166
01:39:28.692 --> 01:39:32.312
So we've started the process. This money is to

2167
01:39:32.372 --> 01:39:36.332
finish the process and actually buy the generator and get it installed.

2168
01:39:39.292 --> 01:39:42.572
Shimon, did you want to speak to the technology component of

2169
01:39:44.652 --> 01:39:47.072
how important the generator support is?

2170
01:39:49.912 --> 01:39:53.602
Good afternoon. Shimon Hakim, information systems manager.

2171
01:39:54.952 --> 01:39:58.692
From an IT perspective, so upstairs we

2172
01:39:58.852 --> 01:40:02.392
have a UPS that allows us to run our

2173
01:40:02.452 --> 01:40:06.012
servers and the computers within the IT department for

2174
01:40:06.112 --> 01:40:09.952
about two to maybe about six hours, in that range, depending on how

2175
01:40:09.972 --> 01:40:11.352
many devices we have plugged in.

2176
01:40:11.992 --> 01:40:13.072
It's like a battery?

2177
01:40:13.112 --> 01:40:14.772
Yep. It's basically a big battery.

2178
01:40:16.312 --> 01:40:16.392
So,

2179
01:40:17.332 --> 01:40:19.372
in the past when the power have gone out,

2180
01:40:20.932 --> 01:40:23.292
the generator will kick in and the UPS,

2181
01:40:24.712 --> 01:40:26.782
it prevents brownouts and things like that.

2182
01:40:28.452 --> 01:40:29.352
In addition to

2183
01:40:31.272 --> 01:40:34.572
that power, we need power for all of our door

2184
01:40:34.652 --> 01:40:35.312
access,

2185
01:40:36.472 --> 01:40:39.512
security cameras, and obviously all of our servers.

2186
01:40:40.332 --> 01:40:41.752
Those are the three main thing that needs to

2187
01:40:43.332 --> 01:40:46.992
have power at all times. The UPS upstairs, again,

2188
01:40:47.992 --> 01:40:51.792
depending on what we plug in, gives us up to about six hours of

2189
01:40:51.852 --> 01:40:52.932
power. So this

2190
01:40:53.952 --> 01:40:57.412
backup generator is critical in terms of IT

2191
01:40:57.472 --> 01:40:58.892
infrastructure.

2192
01:40:58.901 --> 01:41:02.852
And this would bring us to two of the three generators, getting us closer

2193
01:41:02.892 --> 01:41:05.332
to the capacity and demand.

2194
01:41:06.012 --> 01:41:09.262
I'm assuming. I'm not exactly sure about the number of generators, but-

2195
01:41:10.132 --> 01:41:10.392
Dave?

2196
01:41:10.412 --> 01:41:14.401
We only do one whole generator. We replace the generator that's out there and make

2197
01:41:14.472 --> 01:41:17.392
one generator that would power the entire building.

2198
01:41:17.492 --> 01:41:20.372
So it's a bigger capacity generator.

2199
01:41:21.602 --> 01:41:21.602
Correct.

2200
01:41:21.612 --> 01:41:22.712
But it would meet our needs.

2201
01:41:23.112 --> 01:41:23.401
Correct.

2202
01:41:23.692 --> 01:41:25.072
Is it gasoline-powered?

2203
01:41:29.172 --> 01:41:30.072
Thanks, Shimon.

2204
01:41:31.252 --> 01:41:32.132
Natural gas.

2205
01:41:33.012 --> 01:41:35.892
I believe there's two different proposals, whether it be natural gas or

2206
01:41:35.932 --> 01:41:39.672
diesel-powered. It depends on the cost factor and the

2207
01:41:39.692 --> 01:41:42.942
proposal. The engineering study is

2208
01:41:43.552 --> 01:41:47.092
studied for both, so when it goes out to RFP, we

2209
01:41:47.132 --> 01:41:49.542
would see which one came back, which one was better.

2210
01:41:50.332 --> 01:41:54.152
I just recall that the one... Because the power never goes out

2211
01:41:54.192 --> 01:41:57.932
here, or rarely. The one time it did, when it was

2212
01:41:58.112 --> 01:41:59.742
half the country was out,

2213
01:42:01.212 --> 01:42:05.091
my recollection is that the concern was the wastewater treatment plant and

2214
01:42:05.132 --> 01:42:08.752
getting enough fuel for that as opposed to running City

2215
01:42:08.812 --> 01:42:09.512
Hall or-

2216
01:42:10.132 --> 01:42:10.412
There-

2217
01:42:10.532 --> 01:42:12.612
So if it was a generator, it might not have been used.

2218
01:42:12.632 --> 01:42:16.332
So I would encourage you to look at the natural gas

2219
01:42:16.572 --> 01:42:17.472
option.

2220
01:42:17.552 --> 01:42:20.952
Yeah. When we did the one with the full building generator over at PD, that was an

2221
01:42:21.032 --> 01:42:24.912
option over there. We already had the diesel tank literally right next

2222
01:42:24.952 --> 01:42:26.722
to where we put the generator, so it-

2223
01:42:26.792 --> 01:42:26.802
Gotcha

2224
01:42:26.802 --> 01:42:30.552
... kind of made sense. And we can get a long

2225
01:42:30.592 --> 01:42:33.432
period of time through that generator with that tank.

2226
01:42:33.892 --> 01:42:37.412
The one out at Wastewater, that's literally an old train

2227
01:42:37.472 --> 01:42:39.832
engine. That generator takes a lot.

2228
01:42:40.072 --> 01:42:42.832
So they've got a lot of redundancies out there, too.

2229
01:42:43.872 --> 01:42:47.652
So yeah, I think natural gas makes a lot of sense on this

2230
01:42:47.692 --> 01:42:49.352
building just because

2231
01:42:50.452 --> 01:42:54.412
even the generator we have now, we have a 500-gallon fuel tank, and we

2232
01:42:54.452 --> 01:42:57.912
have to get that polished every once in a while because we don't go through all 500

2233
01:42:57.952 --> 01:43:01.932
gallons unless we have major power outages, which have been becoming more and

2234
01:43:01.972 --> 01:43:02.752
more lately.

2235
01:43:03.572 --> 01:43:07.382
I would say we've had, since I've taken office, at least two power outages

2236
01:43:07.472 --> 01:43:07.592
to

2237
01:43:08.392 --> 01:43:10.692
City Hall complex annually.

2238
01:43:11.672 --> 01:43:15.512
But what the community doesn't understand, they don't always realize

2239
01:43:15.572 --> 01:43:18.912
is the City Hall, for the most part, continues to operate

2240
01:43:19.272 --> 01:43:20.852
because we have generator support.

2241
01:43:21.172 --> 01:43:24.472
So we don't have to close all our departments just because there's a power outage.

2242
01:43:27.232 --> 01:43:28.332
I appreciate

2243
01:43:29.812 --> 01:43:33.792
Shimon Hakim's explanation. I think that spending millions of dollars

2244
01:43:33.892 --> 01:43:37.252
to keep City Hall open with the occasional

2245
01:43:38.032 --> 01:43:42.012
power outage probably isn't the best use of money, but understanding that

2246
01:43:42.032 --> 01:43:43.802
there are other implications-

2247
01:43:43.902 --> 01:43:43.902
Correct

2248
01:43:43.902 --> 01:43:45.092
... makes a whole lot more sense.

2249
01:43:45.212 --> 01:43:45.472
Right.

2250
01:43:46.872 --> 01:43:50.808
Yeah. And the power outages areEven though, like the mayor said,

2251
01:43:50.888 --> 01:43:53.708
even though you don't see them, I get the calls in the middle of the night, and

2252
01:43:53.788 --> 01:43:57.048
we've lost quite a few squirrels and ducks in this neighborhood that have caused

2253
01:43:57.088 --> 01:43:58.648
this power to go out, and-

2254
01:43:59.368 --> 01:44:00.838
That happened at Cousins Mill High School not that long ago.

2255
01:44:00.988 --> 01:44:01.408
Yeah.

2256
01:44:02.988 --> 01:44:05.448
So it does happen more than you think.

2257
01:44:05.508 --> 01:44:08.748
It's just a lot of people don't notice because we try to make it as seamless as

2258
01:44:08.788 --> 01:44:09.368
possible.

2259
01:44:10.428 --> 01:44:10.668
Mm-hmm.

2260
01:44:10.678 --> 01:44:12.848
Madam Mayor?

2261
01:44:12.868 --> 01:44:13.807
Mm-hmm. Councilman.

2262
01:44:14.128 --> 01:44:17.968
On the topic of the generator, so you have one now

2263
01:44:18.048 --> 01:44:19.668
that is old, but it works?

2264
01:44:20.168 --> 01:44:23.488
It does. It's at its end of life, though.

2265
01:44:23.868 --> 01:44:27.358
I'm under the understanding that our courts does not have a

2266
01:44:27.388 --> 01:44:31.128
generator, and we've had multiple shutdowns this past

2267
01:44:31.188 --> 01:44:34.548
year of no power there. Are there any plans

2268
01:44:34.768 --> 01:44:37.868
where the need is greater there than here?

2269
01:44:37.908 --> 01:44:41.608
So that was tossed back and forth about, there was a potential

2270
01:44:42.388 --> 01:44:46.278
of doing an engineering study to attach it to the police generator, because that

2271
01:44:46.308 --> 01:44:47.928
one's so much bigger than what was needed.

2272
01:44:48.628 --> 01:44:51.488
Was the redundancy large enough that it would handle that building?

2273
01:44:52.028 --> 01:44:55.988
Then there was a study, well, if we're going to be building a new court, why would

2274
01:44:56.028 --> 01:44:59.288
we put the money into buying a generator for that one?

2275
01:44:59.968 --> 01:45:03.467
Then it's not just as simple as hooking up a home generator.

2276
01:45:04.568 --> 01:45:08.218
You'd have to buy a switch gear. You'd have to get the switch gear wired in, then

2277
01:45:08.248 --> 01:45:11.948
you have to run the cable to the switch gear, and then the cable to the generator.

2278
01:45:12.168 --> 01:45:15.628
So you're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars just to get that

2279
01:45:15.668 --> 01:45:18.448
accomplished. It's not just a matter of plug and play.

2280
01:45:18.468 --> 01:45:21.228
So they operate in the dark, and their servers to the state don't work, and-

2281
01:45:21.588 --> 01:45:21.628
Yeah

2282
01:45:21.638 --> 01:45:22.388
... stuff like that.

2283
01:45:23.428 --> 01:45:23.628
Yeah.

2284
01:45:24.288 --> 01:45:28.068
If we were to invest in a generator there, I'm sure

2285
01:45:28.108 --> 01:45:31.848
those can be moved to the new facility once it starts.

2286
01:45:33.468 --> 01:45:35.348
They're not specific to a building.

2287
01:45:35.378 --> 01:45:36.688
They're a generator for-

2288
01:45:37.028 --> 01:45:39.008
They're specific to your power needs.

2289
01:45:39.288 --> 01:45:39.398
Correct.

2290
01:45:39.438 --> 01:45:43.368
And I would imagine that a generator for a new building, judging by

2291
01:45:43.388 --> 01:45:46.968
the size that they want with six courtrooms, is going to be a lot bigger

2292
01:45:47.768 --> 01:45:49.728
than the needs of this building right here.

2293
01:45:50.168 --> 01:45:52.368
You're talking about a generator the size of-

2294
01:45:52.398 --> 01:45:52.498
I'm sure they'll have multiple generators

2295
01:45:52.498 --> 01:45:53.888
... the police department has.

2296
01:45:54.828 --> 01:45:58.448
So, it would be the size of that

2297
01:45:58.488 --> 01:46:01.988
building, it's a 12-cylinder diesel engine.

2298
01:46:02.568 --> 01:46:06.178
So, moving that from one location to another,

2299
01:46:06.188 --> 01:46:09.768
you'd have to recycle the switch gears, and then you'd have to

2300
01:46:10.088 --> 01:46:13.798
redone all the cable. You're still talking another hundreds and hundreds of

2301
01:46:13.848 --> 01:46:14.908
thousands of dollars.

2302
01:46:17.308 --> 01:46:18.168
Okay. Thank you.

2303
01:46:19.968 --> 01:46:22.508
And if I remember correctly, only one of the

2304
01:46:23.888 --> 01:46:26.168
closures at the court was power outage.

2305
01:46:26.548 --> 01:46:29.828
There were a couple other technical issues.

2306
01:46:29.848 --> 01:46:31.248
Yeah, we had some problems with the HVAC.

2307
01:46:31.668 --> 01:46:31.908
Mm-hmm.

2308
01:46:32.188 --> 01:46:35.208
And just to that point, too, when we got the new

2309
01:46:35.288 --> 01:46:37.488
generator at the PD,

2310
01:46:39.768 --> 01:46:43.148
the old generator there worked as well, but we made it into the

2311
01:46:43.188 --> 01:46:47.068
price that when they sold the old generator, it was

2312
01:46:47.148 --> 01:46:50.868
at a discount into ours. We had no use for it, because

2313
01:46:50.888 --> 01:46:54.507
we couldn't afford the cost to add it to any of our other buildings.

2314
01:46:59.988 --> 01:47:00.428
Thank you.

2315
01:47:02.488 --> 01:47:06.028
I appreciate the time and energy everyone's taken

2316
01:47:06.108 --> 01:47:10.088
to dig into this budget into more detail probably than has ever

2317
01:47:10.128 --> 01:47:10.808
been done before.

2318
01:47:11.608 --> 01:47:12.308
And I respect

2319
01:47:13.168 --> 01:47:16.988
in order to have quorum for a vote, are we comfortable with

2320
01:47:17.028 --> 01:47:20.608
voting on the fiscal year '27 budget with the

2321
01:47:20.628 --> 01:47:24.508
discussions we've made? Are there any concerns about what we

2322
01:47:24.548 --> 01:47:25.828
have not discussed yet?

2323
01:47:27.428 --> 01:47:31.388
I don't support all of the individual line items

2324
01:47:31.448 --> 01:47:35.408
of the capital budget as proposed, but I understand

2325
01:47:35.448 --> 01:47:38.028
that those items come to us

2326
01:47:38.128 --> 01:47:39.848
again.

2327
01:47:40.968 --> 01:47:44.288
So I think in the interest of moving it forward,

2328
01:47:45.088 --> 01:47:46.868
we should vote on it.

2329
01:47:47.528 --> 01:47:50.728
So what we're asking for is not adoption, we're just asking for

2330
01:47:50.738 --> 01:47:54.708
approval to make these recommended changes

2331
01:47:54.748 --> 01:47:56.388
and forward it to council, for

2332
01:47:56.508 --> 01:48:00.468
they adopt it first, and then it

2333
01:48:00.488 --> 01:48:02.568
would come back to us for formal adoption.

2334
01:48:02.948 --> 01:48:05.078
And each project would then, as it's-

2335
01:48:06.727 --> 01:48:06.787
Yeah

2336
01:48:06.848 --> 01:48:08.848
... contracted out, would come before us.

2337
01:48:11.868 --> 01:48:13.068
Can I get a motion to...

2338
01:48:14.218 --> 01:48:16.628
What is the language you'd like us to use?

2339
01:48:18.108 --> 01:48:19.828
Propose? Adopt?

2340
01:48:19.838 --> 01:48:21.388
Approve the proposed budget.

2341
01:48:21.668 --> 01:48:24.428
I think all we have left is the capital portion of it.

2342
01:48:25.928 --> 01:48:29.148
Do we need to adopt it in its entirety or just capital?

2343
01:48:29.948 --> 01:48:30.928
Just approve it in-

2344
01:48:31.308 --> 01:48:31.388
Entirety

2345
01:48:31.398 --> 01:48:32.728
... sorry, in entirety.

2346
01:48:33.888 --> 01:48:33.988
So-

2347
01:48:34.288 --> 01:48:34.628
Can I get-

2348
01:48:34.668 --> 01:48:35.368
To city council

2349
01:48:35.908 --> 01:48:36.788
... we went through-

2350
01:48:37.548 --> 01:48:38.628
To authorize the budget.

2351
01:48:38.948 --> 01:48:40.048
Yeah. Madam Chair?

2352
01:48:40.108 --> 01:48:42.948
The general, the contractual services in all of the

2353
01:48:44.188 --> 01:48:46.708
capital. So those are the main changes.

2354
01:48:46.768 --> 01:48:46.828
The

2355
01:48:47.708 --> 01:48:50.388
rest of it is all boiler plate stuff.

2356
01:48:51.748 --> 01:48:52.408
Rick, what would you like-

2357
01:48:52.458 --> 01:48:52.588
Madam Chair, so-

2358
01:48:52.968 --> 01:48:53.858
What would be helpful for you?

2359
01:48:53.868 --> 01:48:57.668
The motion would be to adopt the fiscal '27 budget

2360
01:48:57.748 --> 01:48:59.228
recommendation to the council.

2361
01:48:59.388 --> 01:49:00.318
With recommended amendments.

2362
01:49:00.348 --> 01:49:02.948
With the recommended amendments that were talked about today.

2363
01:49:03.628 --> 01:49:03.948
Are you

2364
01:49:04.928 --> 01:49:05.888
comfortable with that?

2365
01:49:07.328 --> 01:49:09.368
Motion to authorize the budget?

2366
01:49:09.628 --> 01:49:10.068
That's fine.

2367
01:49:10.088 --> 01:49:11.927
Because I cannot adopt it until council approves.

2368
01:49:11.938 --> 01:49:12.538
Yeah, we can't adopt it until-

2369
01:49:12.548 --> 01:49:13.938
That's right. You recommend it

2370
01:49:13.968 --> 01:49:14.588
Yeah, that's fine.

2371
01:49:14.868 --> 01:49:15.288
Approve the-

2372
01:49:15.328 --> 01:49:15.927
Approving the recommendation.

2373
01:49:15.968 --> 01:49:18.228
Is the word approve, authorize?

2374
01:49:19.328 --> 01:49:21.848
Could make approve the recommended budget.

2375
01:49:22.568 --> 01:49:23.048
Approve.

2376
01:49:23.348 --> 01:49:23.468
Yeah.

2377
01:49:24.768 --> 01:49:25.408
Consensus?

2378
01:49:25.828 --> 01:49:25.968
Yep.

2379
01:49:26.188 --> 01:49:26.468
Okay.

2380
01:49:27.828 --> 01:49:30.208
We've discussed what changes and amendments.

2381
01:49:32.268 --> 01:49:33.028
Can I get a motion?

2382
01:49:34.648 --> 01:49:35.168
Make the motion.

2383
01:49:35.468 --> 01:49:37.048
Thank you, Michael. Second?

2384
01:49:37.608 --> 01:49:37.928
Support.

2385
01:49:38.348 --> 01:49:40.208
Support from Oscar. Roll call.

2386
01:49:41.828 --> 01:49:42.458
Mr. Wiegand?

2387
01:49:42.788 --> 01:49:42.978
Yes.

2388
01:49:43.028 --> 01:49:43.828
Mr. Zamora?

2389
01:49:43.928 --> 01:49:44.148
Yes.

2390
01:49:44.608 --> 01:49:45.468
Ms. Cavalier?

2391
01:49:45.668 --> 01:49:45.928
Yes.

2392
01:49:46.048 --> 01:49:46.848
Mr. McCary?

2393
01:49:47.328 --> 01:49:47.588
Yes.

2394
01:49:47.688 --> 01:49:48.308
Mayor Stone?

2395
01:49:48.728 --> 01:49:49.028
Yes.

2396
01:49:49.328 --> 01:49:49.688
Pass.

2397
01:49:50.428 --> 01:49:50.768
Thank you.

2398
01:49:51.608 --> 01:49:53.448
If you have the... Yeah.

2399
01:49:53.488 --> 01:49:53.928
Thank you

2400
01:49:56.172 --> 01:49:59.972
Oh, approval of list of bills. Joe, one more. One more.

2401
01:50:00.292 --> 01:50:00.952
We'll get you out.

2402
01:50:01.492 --> 01:50:02.492
We got list of bills.

2403
01:50:02.892 --> 01:50:03.812
Can we spend the money?

2404
01:50:04.172 --> 01:50:05.072
We've got to pay the bills.

2405
01:50:05.252 --> 01:50:06.492
The late meetings are late.

2406
01:50:06.552 --> 01:50:07.472
I apologize.

2407
01:50:09.092 --> 01:50:11.252
Can I get a motion for approval for list of bills?

2408
01:50:15.232 --> 01:50:16.192
Want to make a motion?

2409
01:50:16.292 --> 01:50:17.092
I'll make a motion.

2410
01:50:17.272 --> 01:50:17.712
Thank you, Joe.

2411
01:50:17.792 --> 01:50:18.472
Mm-hmm.

2412
01:50:19.872 --> 01:50:20.712
Can I get a second?

2413
01:50:21.452 --> 01:50:21.792
Support.

2414
01:50:22.212 --> 01:50:23.112
Support from Oscar.

2415
01:50:23.892 --> 01:50:24.992
Okay, Mr. McCary?

2416
01:50:25.812 --> 01:50:26.032
Yes.

2417
01:50:26.182 --> 01:50:26.912
Mr. Zamora?

2418
01:50:27.072 --> 01:50:27.282
Yes.

2419
01:50:27.472 --> 01:50:28.152
Mr. Wiegand.

2420
01:50:28.611 --> 01:50:28.972
Yes.

2421
01:50:28.992 --> 01:50:29.712
Ms. Cavalier.

2422
01:50:30.052 --> 01:50:30.352
Yes.

2423
01:50:30.612 --> 01:50:31.191
Mayor Stone.

2424
01:50:31.272 --> 01:50:32.912
Yes. Okay, this time-

2425
01:50:33.592 --> 01:50:33.732
Yeah?

2426
01:50:34.142 --> 01:50:34.752
... you're dismissed.

2427
01:50:35.182 --> 01:50:35.182
Yeah.

2428
01:50:36.072 --> 01:50:38.672
Thank you.

2429
01:50:39.012 --> 01:50:42.882
Thank you. Thank you for your patience, and thank you for also

2430
01:50:42.912 --> 01:50:43.712
expediting that.

2431
01:50:44.941 --> 01:50:46.632
That leaves us with good of the order.

2432
01:50:48.772 --> 01:50:49.392
I just have one

2433
01:50:50.272 --> 01:50:53.322
request. So we approved the International Downtown

2434
01:50:53.392 --> 01:50:56.032
Association membership.

2435
01:50:56.722 --> 01:50:56.822
Membership.

2436
01:50:56.822 --> 01:51:00.392
But it was only implemented for the DDA

2437
01:51:00.572 --> 01:51:04.502
staff, and we have requests coming

2438
01:51:04.532 --> 01:51:07.732
from all the departments. So I would ask you to

2439
01:51:07.772 --> 01:51:11.692
consider looking at that membership for all city staff

2440
01:51:11.752 --> 01:51:14.492
as opposed to just the DDA staff.

2441
01:51:14.532 --> 01:51:15.472
Does that change-

2442
01:51:15.512 --> 01:51:19.332
There's a lot of... It changes the amount, but there

2443
01:51:19.352 --> 01:51:22.912
are so many professional development opportunities, and even just

2444
01:51:23.352 --> 01:51:26.492
some of the purchasing resources that we're looking at, the holiday

2445
01:51:26.552 --> 01:51:27.512
decorations.

2446
01:51:27.572 --> 01:51:28.031
Yeah.

2447
01:51:28.732 --> 01:51:31.992
It just seems like a missed opportunity not to open that to everybody.

2448
01:51:32.072 --> 01:51:34.712
We actually have a Zoom scheduled, too, with the administrator there to help walk

2449
01:51:34.792 --> 01:51:36.592
through some of those benefits.

2450
01:51:37.232 --> 01:51:39.472
Do we have to change the amount of approval?

2451
01:51:39.772 --> 01:51:41.512
It's something that can come back later.

2452
01:51:41.812 --> 01:51:42.352
I just would-

2453
01:51:42.732 --> 01:51:42.912
Okay

2454
01:51:42.922 --> 01:51:44.032
... encourage you when you

2455
01:51:44.832 --> 01:51:47.542
talk with it to look at the-

2456
01:51:47.542 --> 01:51:51.522
Ask them what the appropriate, or look at the number of staff, and

2457
01:51:51.592 --> 01:51:53.392
ask them for what the appropriate amount is.

2458
01:51:53.402 --> 01:51:54.912
Because the cost is based on the budget.

2459
01:51:54.992 --> 01:51:57.892
So the DDA budget is obviously-

2460
01:51:57.952 --> 01:51:59.032
Versus the city budget?

2461
01:51:59.292 --> 01:51:59.772
The city budget puts

2462
01:52:00.732 --> 01:52:03.182
you at the top tier of membership,

2463
01:52:04.332 --> 01:52:06.332
which is just like a couple thousand dollars difference.

2464
01:52:06.652 --> 01:52:07.052
Considering-

2465
01:52:07.092 --> 01:52:07.312
Okay

2466
01:52:07.321 --> 01:52:09.712
... the amount of money that we look at-

2467
01:52:10.412 --> 01:52:11.072
So we can get that-

2468
01:52:11.082 --> 01:52:12.472
... seems like a missed opportunity

2469
01:52:12.872 --> 01:52:14.972
... because that'll be like a contractual service.

2470
01:52:15.032 --> 01:52:18.992
The council members, you're on the

2471
01:52:19.032 --> 01:52:19.332
DDA-

2472
01:52:19.392 --> 01:52:19.761
Absolutely

2473
01:52:19.912 --> 01:52:22.932
... but everybody could be a member for the upper tier.

2474
01:52:23.212 --> 01:52:26.662
Oh, absolutely. And we need to make sure controllers for anything that's relevant-

2475
01:52:26.662 --> 01:52:27.202
We're 100 a member

2476
01:52:27.202 --> 01:52:28.112
... and/or HR-

2477
01:52:28.732 --> 01:52:28.821
Part of that, for sure

2478
01:52:28.832 --> 01:52:32.332
... community development. Absolutely. Thank you for flagging that.

2479
01:52:33.432 --> 01:52:33.752
Okay.

2480
01:52:34.772 --> 01:52:38.212
Stevens Road Greenway community engagement meetings are happening.

2481
01:52:38.252 --> 01:52:42.052
May 11th is the next one, so if you haven't had input,

2482
01:52:42.692 --> 01:52:46.512
come participate. We have our park and recreation

2483
01:52:46.632 --> 01:52:50.072
survey is being launched. We're working towards our master plan.

2484
01:52:50.192 --> 01:52:51.332
Please contribute.

2485
01:52:52.612 --> 01:52:56.292
Warren Concert Band and Warren Symphony Band are both performing May

2486
01:52:56.372 --> 01:52:58.992
17th. You're going to may have to make tough decisions.

2487
01:52:59.952 --> 01:53:03.872
Both phenomenal. Up next, learn about rentals

2488
01:53:04.752 --> 01:53:08.232
during Empowering Civic Engagement, and the next community check-in will be

2489
01:53:08.572 --> 01:53:12.312
May 28th. Any other good and welfare for the

2490
01:53:12.712 --> 01:53:13.112
city?

2491
01:53:15.172 --> 01:53:15.912
Anything coming up?

2492
01:53:17.292 --> 01:53:18.132
Happy Mother's Day.

2493
01:53:18.612 --> 01:53:20.372
Happy Mother's Day. Thank you, Oscar.

2494
01:53:20.652 --> 01:53:20.792
Motion to

2495
01:53:21.632 --> 01:53:22.152
adjourn.

2496
01:53:22.252 --> 01:53:23.272
Okay. Motion to adjourn.

2497
01:53:24.802 --> 01:53:24.802
Motion.

2498
01:53:24.832 --> 01:53:25.392
All in favor?

2499
01:53:25.792 --> 01:53:26.072
Aye.

2500
01:53:27.092 --> 01:53:27.992
Motion carries.

2501
01:53:29.072 --> 01:53:29.612
Thank you.