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I am now calling to order a regular meeting of city council, Tuesday,

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June 9th, 2026, at 7:00 PM. Please stand for the pledge of

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allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,

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and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under

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God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Roll call, Madam Secretary.

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Councilwoman Roggensack.

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Here.

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Councilwoman McGee.

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Here.

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Councilman Lafferty.

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Here.

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Councilman Bohike.

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Present.

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Councilman Noonan.

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Present.

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Councilman Dwyer.

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A motion to excuse with discussion.

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Support Lafferty.

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Mr. Dwyer's wife is undergoing surgery at the Cleveland

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Clinic tomorrow. They went down today to start

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all the preparations and things, and so our thoughts and

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prayers are with their family. It's pretty serious surgery,

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but he should be back here in two weeks, and I'll keep everybody updated

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on how she does. He's got to text so...

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Wish her well.

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Yes.

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Is that the end of roll call?

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Yep.

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Okay.

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All in favor?

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All in favor?

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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Thank you. Next item.

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Next item is adoption of the consent agenda, so moved.

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Support Lafferty.

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I'd like to request

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that IV P be taken off the consent agenda.

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Support?

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IV P.

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And placed on the regular agenda?

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And placed on the regular agenda, yeah.

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Any other discussion?

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Okay, hearing and seeing none, I'll call the question, Ms. Moore?

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Yes.

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Mr. Lafferty?

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Yes.

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Mr. Bohike?

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I just want clarification, point of order on

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item four, letter B, as in boy-

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B

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... in the consent agenda.

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Paul.

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Paul.

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Your vote.

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I'm vote.

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Thank you. Yes?

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Yes.

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Mr. Noonan?

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Yes.

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Ms. McGee?

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Yes.

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Roggensack is a yes. Motion carries. Next item.

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Next item, adoption of the agenda, so moved with discussion.

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Support Lafferty.

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Discussion, Ms. Moore.

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Yes. We're adding to the list of bills,

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payment for delivery of the Sutphin Quint ladder truck,

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in the amount of

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$1,656,415.

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We had already approved the purchase of this item, but now we have

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to pay for it because it's coming in this week, and we have to pay on delivery.

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And this

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will be non-reconsiderable since it has to

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be issued maybe tomorrow or Thursday.

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Where is that being added?

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That's being added to the list of bills.

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List of bills. Thank you.

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And one more issue, we are removing item

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13I at the request of the administration.

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They're

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pursuing another route for payment of this.

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Madam Secretary.

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Mm-hmm.

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IV P-

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And IV P is now item...

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Let's make it XI B. Oh, no. Is that the only thing you have to be here

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on?

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Yes.

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Okay, let's put that under miscellaneous.

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Make it XI A, it'll be XI B, will be IV P.

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Any additional discussion?

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Oh.

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Oh, I was just going to read it. Okay.

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Oh.

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The item 13B is 50 million, not 50,000.

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Okay. I will call the question. Ms. Moore?

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Yes.

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Mr. Lafferty?

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Yes.

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Mr. Bohike?

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Yes.

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Mr. Noonan?

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Yes.

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Ms. McGee?

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Yes.

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Roggensack is yes. Motion carries. Next item.

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Next item is 6A, calendar of pending matters.

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Motion to receive and file.

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Support Lafferty.

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Any discussion?

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I will call the question. All in favor?

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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Motion carries. Next item.

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Next item is 7A, approval of the bills of

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the general revenue funds, so moved with the addition of

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the Quint ladder truck.

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Support.

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Support Lafferty.

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Support, Ms. McGee. Any discussion?

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Hearing and seeing none, I'll call the question. Ms. Moore?

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Yes.

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Ms. McGee?

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Yes.

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Mr. Lafferty?

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Yes.

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Mr. Bohike?

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Yes.

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Mr. Noonan?

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Yes.

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Roggensack is a yes. Motion carries. Next item.

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Next item is approval of the bills of the water and sewer system, so moved.

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Support Lafferty.

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Discussion?

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Hearing and seeing none, I'll call the question. Ms. Moore?

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Yes.

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Mr. Lafferty?

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Yes.

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Mr. Bohike?

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Yes.

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Mr. Noonan?

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Yes.

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Ms. McGee?

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Yes.

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Roggensack is a yes. Motion carries. Next item.

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Next item is 7G, general fund revenue report for

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March 2026. Motion to receive and file.

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Support Lafferty.

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Any discussion?

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Hearing and seeing none, I'll call the question. All in favor?

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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Motion carries. Next item.

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Next item is 7D, general fund expenditure report for March

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2026. Motion to receive and file.

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Support Lafferty.

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Any discussion?

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Hearing and seeing none, I'll call the question. All in favor?

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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Next item.

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Next item is

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7C, general fund revenue report for April

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2026. Motion to receive and file

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Support Lafferty, E.

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E. And I said C.

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C.

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Oh, I'm sorry, E. Motion by Moore, support by Lafferty, this is item E.

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Any discussion?

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Hearing and seeing none, I'll call the question. All in favor?

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Motion carries. Next item.

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Next item is 7F, general fund expenditure report for April

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2026. Motion to receive and file.

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Support Lafferty.

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Any discussion?

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Hearing and seeing none, I'll call the question. All in favor?

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Aye.

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Motion carries. Next item.

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Next item is

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eight, audience participation for agenda items only.

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Members of the audience who would like to address city council this evening may do

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so by getting an audience form

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on the right side of us now.

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You have three minutes. I do not have a screen here for those of you that

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are newer to this conference room, so I will give you a one-minute or

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30-second

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reminder of your time.

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Mr. Vander Linden, you put an audience, but do you have an item for the

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agenda or just general?

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Item on the agenda.

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Okay.

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The podium's that way if you-

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That way?

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Yep, this-

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To a blind guy?

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To the left.

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You got it.

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She's going to take it. Just put it in the basket.

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Sure.

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What?

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Yeah. Sorry. Check this.

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Watch the curtsies.

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Okay, you're in front of the podium. Can you see it?

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Oh.

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Let me bring the mic here.

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Turn to

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That's the podium?

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Yeah.

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That camera's going to have to scootch back.

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There, we got it.

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To the wife.

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Okay, sit down.

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Got it?

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My pants are falling.

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You might want to turn a little

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bit more.

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I'm good.

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You ready, Mr. Vander Linden?

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Yes, ma'am.

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All right. Your three minutes. Go for it.

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Joel Vander Linden, longtime Warren resident.

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I'm here about the

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beginning of the sewer

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cleanup,

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the $50 million

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sewer cleanup that we have here in Warren.

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I am all for it. I think it needs to be done

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quicker.

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I think we need to drain the water out of Red Run in a

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faster pace

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now that we have all this

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garbage water coming from Oakland County

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illegally. I need the council to

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support it so our basements don't flood.

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I'd like to know how the court thing is going on the

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lawsuit with Oakland County about Red Run,

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because what we first agreed upon

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with Red Run

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has been trampled upon by Oakland County.

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So please vote yes on that bill. Thank

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you very much.

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Thank you.

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Welcome back.

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That is the end of audience for agenda

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items.

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No, she-

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Ms. Camp, there's-

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We have the other-

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There's... Yes, I do. There's two.

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Is there-

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Yes. One or two more there.

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Thank you.

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What other agenda items?

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General.

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Yeah, general. I did go under general.

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Okay.

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And I have another one in general.

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It's later.

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Okay.

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Cultural commission appointment.

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Is there a cultural-

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It's already done. It was on the consent-

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Consent

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... consent. It was done.

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So I guess it's adjourned.

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We'll call her up. Viviana Podina?

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Okay.

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Yep, you have three minutes. Just so you know, the item was approved on the

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consent. You still have three minutes. Yeah.

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Yeah. Hi,

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city council. My name's Viviana. The mayor actually asked me to come to this

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meeting just to introduce myself.

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I got appointed to the cultural commission.

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I'm really excited to be part of this.

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My background professionally is in fashion, retail, and the

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cannabis industry. Where I work currently, part of my job

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is employee engagement, so I'm really excited to translate that into a

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city-wide

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thing where we can...

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How do I say this? I would say the way that I think about this is the world is our

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oyster for the amount of events and things that we can do.

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I know we've done a lot of concert series.

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I think there's a lot of other things that we can do for the city, especially

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since this is Michigan's third-largest city.

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It's important and I'd like to see it

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expand in that capacity. So I just wanted to

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say hi, nice to meet you guys, and thank you.

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Thank you.

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All right. That is the

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end of-

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She's as well

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... audience, I think.

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No, I think she had-

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I think there was one.

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Oh, yeahMahmuda

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Maury?

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Thank you.

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Yeah. Thank you. Sorry for-

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That's okay

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... the delay. Three minutes.

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Good afternoon, council members. My name is Mahmuda Maury.

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I am on today's agenda in 13H, and thank

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you for giving me the opportunity to speak today.

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I wanted to introduce myself a little bit more and talk about my background.

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So I joined the Warren Planning Commission a few years ago in

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2022 and had the privilege of serving two terms.

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During my first term, I was the assistant secretary, and for the last three years,

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I have been serving as the secretary for the Warren Planning Commission.

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Throughout my time on the commission, I have been actively involved

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beyond my core responsibilities.

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For example, volunteered to serve in the Master Planning

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Committee along with the Green Space Committee, and I am

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the second representative for a couple of the other committees that we do

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have. I also had the opportunity to complete my

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Michigan planning certification through MSU extension program.

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And I think, especially the certification program, really

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helped me do my responsibilities to the best of

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my knowledge.

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Just to talk a little bit more about my background with the city, I have

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been involved with city ever since I graduated high school.

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So I started with our city clerk, serving as an

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election inspector, and then also became the election

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supervisor and served there a couple of times.

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As a planning commissioner, I always made it my priority to be

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engaged with the community, ask questions, raise concerns when

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needed. I believe thoughtful decision-making,

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transparency, and ensuring that development aligns with the best

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interests of our community.

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It has truly been an honor serving the city, especially the planning

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commission, and I respectfully ask for your approval, especially for

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13H today. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you again.

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Thank you.

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Next is Tahmid Chowdhury.

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Also on the consent-

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Yes

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... just so you are aware. Go ahead, three minutes.

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Good evening, Council President Robensy, and member of the city councils, and

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fellow residents. My name is Tahmid Chowdhury.

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I would like to thank Mayor Stone for appointing me to the Warren Crime Commission

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and the City Council for your consideration this evening.

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I'm a proud Warren resident and currently serving as the industry director for

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State Representative Mike McFall.

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Through my work, I have the opportunity to assist residents, collaborate with local

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governments, and help connect people with the resources and services they need.

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I recently completed Warren Citizens Police Academy, which gave me a valuable

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insight into the work performed by our police department and the challenges our

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officers face every day. The experience

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strengthened my belief that strong partnership between residents,

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community organization, and law enforcement

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are essential to keeping our city safe.

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In addition, my professional background, including working in technology, data

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analysis, and software operations, where cybersecurity, digital

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system, and risk management were important part of my work.

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As crime increasingly extends into the digital world, I hope to bring the

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experience into the commission by helping promote awareness of

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cybercrime, online scams, identity theft, fraud prevention, and

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other emerging threats that affect residents,

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seniors, and local business. I'm honored by the opportunity to serve

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on the

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Crime Commission and look forward to supporting its mission of promoting

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crime prevention, community education, and open communication between resident

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and law enforcement. I'm committed to listening, learning, and working

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collaboratively to help make Warren even safer, stronger

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community. Thank you for your time and consideration.

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I look forward to serving this resident of Warren. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I believe that is the end of audience now.

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Next item.

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Next item is 9A, resolution recognizing

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June 2026 as Pride Month.

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A resolution of the Warren City Council recognizing June

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2026 as Pride Month, whereas the City Council of the City of

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Warren recognizes the importance of fostering a community built

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on dignity, respect, inclusion, and equal opportunity for all

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residents. And whereas Pride Month is observed each June to

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honor history, contributions, and resilience of the

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LGBTQ+ community. And whereas the City of

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Warren values diversity and stands against discrimination,

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harassment, and intolerance in all forms.

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And whereas celebrating Pride Month affirms the city's

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commitment to ensuring every resident feels welcomed,

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respected, and safe within their community.

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Now therefore, be it resolved that the Warren City Council hereby

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recognizes June 2026 as Pride Month in

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the city of Warren and encourages all residents to promote

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understanding, kindness, and mutual respect throughout our

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community. Resolution declared and adopted. So moved.

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Support, Lafferty.

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Any discussion?

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All in favor?

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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Next item.

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A resolution of the Warren City Council recognizing Juneteenth

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2026, whereas on June 19, 1865, more

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than two years after President Abraham Lincoln signed the Emancipation

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Proclamation, Union soldiers arrived in Galveston, Texas, to

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announce that enslaved African Americans were free, marking the effective

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end of slavery in the United States.

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And whereas the historic day became known as Juneteenth, the celebration of

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freedom, resilience, hope, and the enduring pursuit of

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equality and justice for all Americans.

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And whereas Juneteenth serves as an opportunity to reflect

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upon our nation's history, to recognize the struggles and

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contributions of African Americans throughout history, and to

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recommit ourselves to the ideals of liberty,

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equality, and opportunity.

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And whereas the City of Warren is proud of its diverse community and

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recognizes that our strength as a city comes from the many

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cultures, backgrounds, and experiences that contribute to the

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fabric of our community. And whereas the Warren City Council

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encourages all residents to use Juneteenth as a time for

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education, reflection, celebration, and meaningful

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dialogue that promotes unity, understanding, and mutual

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respect among all people.

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And whereas Juneteenth was officially recognized as

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a federal holiday in 2021, underscoring its

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national significance and importance in American history.

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Now therefore, be it resolved that the Warren City Council hereby

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recognizes June 19, 2026, as

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Juneteenth in the City of Warren, and encourages all residents

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to commemorate this important occasion by reflecting upon the

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ongoing pursuit of freedom, equality, and justice for all.

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Be it further resolved that the Warren City Council honors the legacy,

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achievements, and contributions of African Americans in the

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City of Warren, the State of Michigan, and throughout the United States.

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Resolution declared adopted. So moved.

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Support Lafferty.

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All in favor?

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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Motion carries. Next item.

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Next item is 10A, which is a public hearing

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request to approve an ordinance to amend the Code of Ordinances,

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Appendix A, to add Article

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4H pertaining to overlay districts.

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The proposed amendment to Article 4 of Appendix A of the City of

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Warren Code of Ordinances to add Article 4H will create

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special public purpose overlay districts on certain specific

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areas of land and to adapt the development and use

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standards to shifting housing, economic, and demographic

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trends.

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PANAAP260001. This is a second

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reading.

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Madam Chair, before we open this, Mr.

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Schroeder, did you want to make a comment before we-

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Just for the record, this public hearing is not required

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under

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our enabling laws. The actual public hearing took place

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before the planning commission, but council is affording this

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opportunity to take additional input. We did mention that at the last meeting.

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Thanks to Ms. Michaels for pointing that out.

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May I say support Noonan?

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There's no action yet.

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Oh.

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There's no action.

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That's what you just said. Okay.

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I am going to open the public hearing.

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Does anyone from the audience want to speak on this matter?

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This is where we have public comment.

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Okay. Hearing and-

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Madam Chair.

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Yeah.

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Mr. Wright, did you want to add-

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Oh

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... something here?

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Yeah. Thank you. John Wright, and Jim Ross, and

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Nicole Ross, and our local developers, and we just want to say

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thank you for considering this. We'll be

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submitting plans for new housing units in South Warren in the coming weeks

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that we would not have been able to do without this overlay,

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new homes. And, we'd also like to specifically

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thank Ron Wirth and Michelle Catapotos, Mary Michaels, and Hunter

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Manikis for working with us and getting this through.

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And also, we have completed two houses

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on Maxwell as part of a other resolution and pilot that

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you approved, and we invite all of you to come see it.

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We have one staged and we'd love to show you at some point.

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So thank you for considering this.

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Thank you.

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Anyone else want to speak on this matter?

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Okay. I will close the public hearing.

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There's nothing that council needs to act on.

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Motion to-

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Madam Chair

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... motion to-

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Second

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... Madam Chair, motion to approve-

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Thank you

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... with discussion.

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Support.

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Thank you-

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Noonan

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... Mr. Noonan. Discussion, Ms. Mark.

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Thank you. I just want to say that, I've already seen some of this stuff

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in action of where we're going to need the overlay, and we've

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already gotten a couple done with variances to this

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point. And if you stop by Maxwell and you want to see the two

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houses that have been placed so far, they look great.

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And the neighbors are very excited about it.

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And thank you so much for all the work you've done, and everybody in the

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administration that's helped bring this to this point.

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I know it was a lot of work, Mr. Wirth and Michelle Catapotos, Hunter, thank you

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all so much for your work. Ms. Michaels, thank you.

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Any other discussion?

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Okay. Hearing and seeing none, I will call the question. Ms. Moore?

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Yes.

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Mr. Noonan?

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Yes.

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Mr. Lafferty?

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Yes.

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Ms. McGee?

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Yes.

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Mr. Boyke?

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Yes.

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Roggen, C is yes. Motion carries. Next item.

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Next item is 11A, consideration and adoption of a resolution

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authorizing the retention of Stagg Liuzza and Kirk

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Hooth Lang & Benedmente law firms for professional legal services to

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pursue legal claims in the PFOS contamination class

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action lawsuit. Motion to approve with discussion.

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Support Lafferty.

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Discussion, Ms. Mark.

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Yeah. Is someone here from either of those law firms?

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I have questions, lots of them.

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Ms. Michaels, do you know if this is time sensitive?

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Because I have a lot of questions about this to Mr. Hooth.

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It is fairly time sensitive. There's a group that would have to be here.

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Well, these are specifically things I want to ask Mr.

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Hooth in light of the things that happened in the last class action.

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I want to know who all was...

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I'll

543
00:24:05.836 --> 00:24:06.876
ask you if you know.

544
00:24:09.196 --> 00:24:11.876
Mr. Hooth could be available if you have questions.

545
00:24:12.216 --> 00:24:13.176
I have his phone number and can-

546
00:24:13.236 --> 00:24:16.896
I do. I can't ask him questions during a public

547
00:24:16.936 --> 00:24:17.316
hearing.

548
00:24:17.766 --> 00:24:17.766
Right.

549
00:24:17.776 --> 00:24:20.836
But I want to know if other law firms were

550
00:24:22.784 --> 00:24:26.384
solicited and ask about this, because there's six or eight in the

551
00:24:26.464 --> 00:24:27.724
country that are doing this.

552
00:24:27.944 --> 00:24:28.124
That is-

553
00:24:28.144 --> 00:24:29.804
And this one is a little bit...

554
00:24:30.424 --> 00:24:34.144
That is correct. Other law firms approached the city

555
00:24:34.784 --> 00:24:38.704
to sign the city up. There's been no action by the city

556
00:24:38.784 --> 00:24:41.054
to actually take their services,

557
00:24:42.644 --> 00:24:45.424
or recommend their services to council. Mr.

558
00:24:45.744 --> 00:24:47.134
Huth approached us,

559
00:24:48.084 --> 00:24:51.744
and he's been working with the main law firm, the one, Stagg

560
00:24:51.784 --> 00:24:55.724
Luizzi, which actually established liability in the

561
00:24:55.804 --> 00:24:57.484
overall class action lawsuit,

562
00:24:59.024 --> 00:24:59.924
and is working for

563
00:25:00.824 --> 00:25:02.744
Stagg... I can't think of his name.

564
00:25:02.804 --> 00:25:02.844
I

565
00:25:04.184 --> 00:25:06.464
won't even try, but I'll call it Stagg Law Firm.

566
00:25:07.024 --> 00:25:10.124
They were actually retained by the Great Lakes Water Authority.

567
00:25:10.204 --> 00:25:10.454
Mm-hmm.

568
00:25:10.924 --> 00:25:13.804
And Mr. Huth is working in coordination with Stagg

569
00:25:14.664 --> 00:25:15.734
to help communities-

570
00:25:15.904 --> 00:25:15.964
Right

571
00:25:16.104 --> 00:25:18.214
... get some of the benefits of the settlement proceeds.

572
00:25:18.264 --> 00:25:19.544
What's the contingency fee?

573
00:25:19.964 --> 00:25:22.894
That is, I think it's 25%,

574
00:25:23.224 --> 00:25:27.204
75%. I spoke to Mr. Huth. He said it's more than fair

575
00:25:27.764 --> 00:25:30.764
because Stagg established liability.

576
00:25:31.004 --> 00:25:33.674
So they're getting 25%,

577
00:25:34.944 --> 00:25:35.524
Stagg firm?

578
00:25:35.984 --> 00:25:36.304
Yes.

579
00:25:36.384 --> 00:25:36.564
And-

580
00:25:36.624 --> 00:25:37.114
Mr. Huth-

581
00:25:37.164 --> 00:25:39.154
But Mr. Huth gets a cut of that. What is his-

582
00:25:39.354 --> 00:25:40.204
Correct. Absolutely.

583
00:25:40.244 --> 00:25:40.844
What is his cut?

584
00:25:41.484 --> 00:25:42.264
25%.

585
00:25:42.304 --> 00:25:43.504
He gets 25% of-

586
00:25:43.664 --> 00:25:43.674
Correct

587
00:25:43.674 --> 00:25:44.784
... the 25%?

588
00:25:44.884 --> 00:25:45.174
Yes.

589
00:25:48.224 --> 00:25:50.824
And that's only of our proceeds. I'm sorry.

590
00:25:50.884 --> 00:25:51.384
Oh, right.

591
00:25:51.464 --> 00:25:52.284
Forgive me. Forgive me. I'm sorry.

592
00:25:52.344 --> 00:25:53.624
Right. No, no, no. I know that.

593
00:25:53.704 --> 00:25:55.784
It's one third. They get one third.

594
00:25:56.184 --> 00:25:59.174
Of the one third, 75% goes to Stagg,

595
00:25:59.704 --> 00:26:01.084
25% goes to

596
00:26:01.944 --> 00:26:02.404
Rob Huth.

597
00:26:03.024 --> 00:26:04.364
Wait a minute, wait a minute.

598
00:26:05.224 --> 00:26:06.284
So it's one third-

599
00:26:06.744 --> 00:26:09.664
Correct, they get one third our settlement-

600
00:26:09.924 --> 00:26:10.144
And-

601
00:26:10.174 --> 00:26:10.704
... our proceeds

602
00:26:10.864 --> 00:26:13.314
... and Kirk Huth gets 25% of the third.

603
00:26:13.314 --> 00:26:14.784
25%. Correct.

604
00:26:15.964 --> 00:26:18.024
Okay. Okay. I'll have-

605
00:26:19.004 --> 00:26:19.264
Pardon me?

606
00:26:20.344 --> 00:26:21.944
Yeah. I'll have a conversation with Mr.

607
00:26:22.164 --> 00:26:26.034
Huth because I want to make sure that the same mistakes are not

608
00:26:26.064 --> 00:26:27.424
made that were made in the last one.

609
00:26:28.244 --> 00:26:30.803
If I may, Madam Chair.

610
00:26:31.713 --> 00:26:31.724
Yes.

611
00:26:31.764 --> 00:26:35.404
I had the conversation with Mr. Huth to make sure he was

612
00:26:36.644 --> 00:26:40.214
in favor, or he supported this allocation of fee, and

613
00:26:40.264 --> 00:26:42.444
he was completely supportive.

614
00:26:42.764 --> 00:26:46.354
Well, yeah, of course he would be because we could go directly to that law firm,

615
00:26:47.004 --> 00:26:49.744
but he's getting a cut of it where we wouldn't have to...

616
00:26:49.944 --> 00:26:52.904
We're going to pay the one third either way, but this way

617
00:26:53.784 --> 00:26:55.904
we could go directly to Stagg if we wanted to.

618
00:26:56.464 --> 00:26:57.024
Yes, I think we-

619
00:26:57.033 --> 00:26:57.904
We don't have to do that.

620
00:26:58.024 --> 00:26:59.264
It's a New Orleans firm.

621
00:26:59.644 --> 00:27:03.004
I know, I know, and there's Motley Rice, there's

622
00:27:04.044 --> 00:27:07.584
Watts Law Firm. I know all of them, most of them, because that's what I do

623
00:27:07.824 --> 00:27:11.464
historically is mass tort, so I'm very well aware of the firms.

624
00:27:11.604 --> 00:27:13.024
I've never heard of this one, but...

625
00:27:14.204 --> 00:27:14.504
Stagg?

626
00:27:15.944 --> 00:27:16.114
Never.

627
00:27:16.164 --> 00:27:18.153
Well, they were retained by Great Lakes Water Authority-

628
00:27:18.184 --> 00:27:19.364
No, I understand that

629
00:27:19.373 --> 00:27:19.394
... through-

630
00:27:19.424 --> 00:27:23.164
I've just not heard of them, and so I have a little problem

631
00:27:23.844 --> 00:27:25.104
getting a firm I've never heard of.

632
00:27:25.704 --> 00:27:25.714
So-

633
00:27:25.764 --> 00:27:26.533
If I may

634
00:27:26.544 --> 00:27:29.784
... But, I'll have conversations with Rob about

635
00:27:30.544 --> 00:27:30.884
this.

636
00:27:31.964 --> 00:27:35.944
But yeah, he's

637
00:27:35.984 --> 00:27:39.884
an agent for them now, basically. They're doing the work, and

638
00:27:39.924 --> 00:27:42.934
he just gets a cut as a... This is a referral, basically, for the

639
00:27:45.424 --> 00:27:45.904
Huth firm.

640
00:27:46.854 --> 00:27:46.854
Yes.

641
00:27:46.884 --> 00:27:49.824
That's all it is. So all right. Thank you. That's all.

642
00:27:51.384 --> 00:27:51.394
Okay, cool.

643
00:27:51.404 --> 00:27:51.964
Mr. Boyke.

644
00:27:52.624 --> 00:27:53.384
Ms. Michaels.

645
00:27:53.464 --> 00:27:53.644
Yes.

646
00:27:54.244 --> 00:27:57.574
The 25%, does that include the legal fees

647
00:27:59.284 --> 00:27:59.864
for the firm?

648
00:28:00.584 --> 00:28:01.024
Correct.

649
00:28:01.844 --> 00:28:05.824
The law firms will receive nothing, no costs, no attorney fees,

650
00:28:05.964 --> 00:28:08.744
unless the city of Warren is awarded part of the settlement.

651
00:28:08.944 --> 00:28:08.954
Unless we-

652
00:28:08.984 --> 00:28:12.824
Because something like that could go on for years, and we could end

653
00:28:12.884 --> 00:28:13.754
up owing the

654
00:28:14.744 --> 00:28:16.744
law firm a lot of money.

655
00:28:17.764 --> 00:28:21.744
No, this is the beauty of it. Law firms will not be paid unless the

656
00:28:21.804 --> 00:28:23.284
city of Warren receives an award.

657
00:28:23.324 --> 00:28:24.954
And they get it out of the 25%.

658
00:28:24.964 --> 00:28:25.954
Correct. Absolutely.

659
00:28:25.954 --> 00:28:27.304
Not an additional bill to the city.

660
00:28:27.744 --> 00:28:29.454
Correct. Yes. And-

661
00:28:29.544 --> 00:28:29.744
Thank you

662
00:28:29.944 --> 00:28:33.424
... according to, if I may, Mr. Huth said that this will

663
00:28:33.464 --> 00:28:35.064
not be a protracted

664
00:28:36.264 --> 00:28:37.984
matter like the opiate lawsuit.

665
00:28:38.354 --> 00:28:38.354
Mm-hmm.

666
00:28:38.364 --> 00:28:41.884
It's just within three years we'll receive the money. Probably sooner.

667
00:28:43.063 --> 00:28:46.684
And the money is unrestricted. It could be used for any purpose the city sees

668
00:28:46.724 --> 00:28:47.104
fit.

669
00:28:48.924 --> 00:28:49.444
Right.

670
00:28:49.484 --> 00:28:50.054
Thank you, Ms. Michaels.

671
00:28:50.264 --> 00:28:50.784
Thank you.

672
00:28:50.824 --> 00:28:51.224
Madam Chair.

673
00:28:51.624 --> 00:28:52.604
Ms. Moore.

674
00:28:52.724 --> 00:28:54.264
How the costs work

675
00:28:55.124 --> 00:28:58.164
is, say you get a billion dollars. They take

676
00:28:58.604 --> 00:29:01.624
all the costs out of that

677
00:29:02.304 --> 00:29:06.254
amount, and then they take their 30%, and then

678
00:29:07.064 --> 00:29:10.354
the 25%. But all the costs get paid first,

679
00:29:11.304 --> 00:29:12.664
and then the

680
00:29:14.064 --> 00:29:15.924
contingency fee comes after that.

681
00:29:17.224 --> 00:29:17.254
Correct.

682
00:29:17.254 --> 00:29:17.364
Right?

683
00:29:17.584 --> 00:29:17.824
Yes.

684
00:29:20.064 --> 00:29:22.284
Any other discussion?

685
00:29:24.364 --> 00:29:27.013
Okay. Hearing and seeing none, I will call the question. Ms. Moore?

686
00:29:27.224 --> 00:29:27.444
Yes.

687
00:29:27.604 --> 00:29:28.244
Mr. Lafferty?

688
00:29:28.504 --> 00:29:28.764
Yes.

689
00:29:29.024 --> 00:29:30.204
Mr. Noonan?

690
00:29:30.464 --> 00:29:30.604
Yes.

691
00:29:30.764 --> 00:29:31.324
Ms. McGee?

692
00:29:31.584 --> 00:29:31.864
Yes.

693
00:29:31.924 --> 00:29:32.544
Mr. Boyke?

694
00:29:32.684 --> 00:29:32.884
Yes.

695
00:29:33.804 --> 00:29:36.524
Brogan, C is a yes. Motion carries. Next item.

696
00:29:37.244 --> 00:29:38.804
Next item is

697
00:29:39.944 --> 00:29:42.694
11B, which was 4P

698
00:29:43.564 --> 00:29:47.404
on the consent, request of the police department to extend the award

699
00:29:47.824 --> 00:29:51.604
for license plate reader technology for a two-year period in a total

700
00:29:51.624 --> 00:29:55.464
amount of 132,000, consideration and adoption of a

701
00:29:55.544 --> 00:29:56.884
resolution. So moved.

702
00:29:57.744 --> 00:29:58.164
Support.

703
00:29:59.964 --> 00:30:01.684
I support Mr. Noonan.

704
00:30:03.904 --> 00:30:04.424
Discussion?

705
00:30:06.464 --> 00:30:07.024
Yeah, sure.

706
00:30:08.324 --> 00:30:11.804
The reason why I asked to have this taken off the consent agenda was

707
00:30:11.824 --> 00:30:14.064
because when I initially was

708
00:30:15.044 --> 00:30:17.934
approving, along with the rest of the city council, this technology,

709
00:30:19.124 --> 00:30:21.474
I thought that the information would

710
00:30:22.324 --> 00:30:26.256
be limited to pretty muchOur

711
00:30:26.276 --> 00:30:28.656
police department and local police departments.

712
00:30:29.096 --> 00:30:32.866
My understanding is that some other cities have been sued and

713
00:30:32.956 --> 00:30:36.696
lost for information going beyond that.

714
00:30:36.706 --> 00:30:40.456
I'm not a legal scholar on this, but I

715
00:30:40.516 --> 00:30:44.066
feel that there should probably be some more consideration

716
00:30:44.096 --> 00:30:46.996
about how we're

717
00:30:47.036 --> 00:30:50.216
controlling the information and who gets it.

718
00:30:50.256 --> 00:30:54.196
I love the technology, the ability to find

719
00:30:54.236 --> 00:30:57.256
missing persons or track down murderers.

720
00:30:57.746 --> 00:31:00.356
Obviously, that's an excellent use for it.

721
00:31:01.356 --> 00:31:05.176
But in this case, I'll be planning on voting against it.

722
00:31:05.236 --> 00:31:08.736
I don't have any questions really at this point, but if you care to speak about it

723
00:31:09.796 --> 00:31:12.156
through the chair, I'd be glad if you would.

724
00:31:12.166 --> 00:31:12.956
Do you have some questions?

725
00:31:14.196 --> 00:31:15.036
Can I ask questions?

726
00:31:16.196 --> 00:31:16.696
Sure. Yeah.

727
00:31:16.756 --> 00:31:17.365
Can I ask questions?

728
00:31:17.556 --> 00:31:18.336
Yeah. Ask questions. Yeah.

729
00:31:18.956 --> 00:31:22.856
Could you please tell us some statistics involving the use of

730
00:31:22.916 --> 00:31:23.795
the Flock cameras?

731
00:31:24.536 --> 00:31:25.416
Hard statistics,

732
00:31:26.616 --> 00:31:30.536
I don't have those prepared for me, but I do have some examples of recent successes

733
00:31:30.556 --> 00:31:33.796
that we've had with it. Quite frankly, the Flock Safety license plate reader system

734
00:31:33.836 --> 00:31:37.616
has been one of the most impactful tools we have ever fielded in my time here at

735
00:31:37.636 --> 00:31:41.596
Warren PD. We have used these things to enormous success

736
00:31:41.676 --> 00:31:45.136
time and time again. We can cite example after example.

737
00:31:45.176 --> 00:31:47.506
The one that stood out to me is right after we put up the cameras,

738
00:31:48.416 --> 00:31:52.336
we had the license plate of a suspect vehicle involved in a homicide before the

739
00:31:52.376 --> 00:31:54.436
first patrol units were even on scene.

740
00:31:54.976 --> 00:31:58.706
But even more recently than that, our crime analyst came up with a

741
00:31:58.736 --> 00:32:02.576
couple of the most impactful things that we have

742
00:32:03.336 --> 00:32:03.856
recently,

743
00:32:05.216 --> 00:32:08.916
and just in the last couple of years, we identified a

744
00:32:09.136 --> 00:32:12.536
suspect vehicle in a non-fatal shooting before it ever hit the detective bureau.

745
00:32:13.256 --> 00:32:16.656
We identified a suspect vehicle in a robbery of a business involving a

746
00:32:16.676 --> 00:32:20.616
firearm. We identified a suspect vehicle that was used in an assault with intent

747
00:32:20.636 --> 00:32:24.156
to murder and an arson of a residence, and we located that suspect

748
00:32:24.696 --> 00:32:27.136
before the detective bureau ever got involved.

749
00:32:27.176 --> 00:32:30.116
We had another robbery street with a gun.

750
00:32:30.196 --> 00:32:33.446
We located a suspect vehicle for that in a timely manner using

751
00:32:33.516 --> 00:32:36.376
Flock. Another strong-arm robbery on the street.

752
00:32:37.516 --> 00:32:41.256
We located a suspect vehicle in a shots fired incident where it was just

753
00:32:41.696 --> 00:32:45.096
shots fired into the air. They located the suspect vehicle on that using these

754
00:32:45.106 --> 00:32:48.336
cameras. And the reality is that without this tool,

755
00:32:49.636 --> 00:32:53.356
we would probably solve a number of the crimes, but

756
00:32:53.436 --> 00:32:56.486
nowhere near as quickly, nowhere near as accurately, and nowhere near as strong of

757
00:32:56.556 --> 00:32:58.396
a case. That's the bottom line.

758
00:32:58.696 --> 00:32:59.326
Right. And

759
00:33:00.976 --> 00:33:04.676
I've noticed that sometimes you have the information that you can terminate a chase

760
00:33:04.745 --> 00:33:05.316
sometimes-

761
00:33:06.016 --> 00:33:06.496
Absolutely

762
00:33:06.716 --> 00:33:10.676
... because you have the information about the vehicle, and so you

763
00:33:10.716 --> 00:33:13.296
can just let them go, and go wait at their house for them-

764
00:33:13.596 --> 00:33:13.726
Good news

765
00:33:13.726 --> 00:33:14.676
... to come back home.

766
00:33:15.196 --> 00:33:18.276
Yes. If we can identify that information using a different tool, we certainly do

767
00:33:18.316 --> 00:33:18.456
that.

768
00:33:18.516 --> 00:33:20.076
Yep. Thank you very much.

769
00:33:20.276 --> 00:33:20.496
Thank you.

770
00:33:20.576 --> 00:33:22.396
And I just want to ask one more question while we're here-

771
00:33:22.616 --> 00:33:22.626
Sure

772
00:33:22.656 --> 00:33:25.556
... while we're on the subject of police equipment.

773
00:33:26.156 --> 00:33:29.996
If you'll remember, we approved the Graykey device.

774
00:33:31.456 --> 00:33:33.076
Council actually added it to the

775
00:33:34.216 --> 00:33:37.936
budget, and I was over at PD a couple of weeks ago, and I was told that it was

776
00:33:37.976 --> 00:33:39.896
being put to very, very good use.

777
00:33:40.476 --> 00:33:44.296
Very, very good use. Yes. It has cut down the time to access these

778
00:33:44.306 --> 00:33:47.356
devices significantly, allowing we're accessing devices that we didn't have the

779
00:33:47.376 --> 00:33:49.236
ability to before.

780
00:33:49.296 --> 00:33:53.236
Yeah. These are the devices that go into a cellphone.

781
00:33:53.386 --> 00:33:53.596
Correct.

782
00:33:53.656 --> 00:33:56.536
And in the past, they would have to take it down to Secret Service.

783
00:33:57.176 --> 00:33:57.376
Yes.

784
00:33:57.516 --> 00:33:59.116
Downtown. They'd have to drive it.

785
00:33:59.196 --> 00:33:59.356
Right.

786
00:33:59.496 --> 00:34:03.436
They would get it done whenever they could fit you in, and it just took more

787
00:34:03.496 --> 00:34:05.656
time, and you're able to solve crimes quicker.

788
00:34:05.816 --> 00:34:06.236
Yeah.

789
00:34:06.256 --> 00:34:06.726
Quicker. Right?

790
00:34:07.016 --> 00:34:07.276
That's correct.

791
00:34:07.776 --> 00:34:11.276
I think it's nice just to know that when we do something and it's benefiting,

792
00:34:11.336 --> 00:34:14.256
it's good to share that with the public as well.

793
00:34:14.656 --> 00:34:16.716
Thank you so much. You're a rockstar.

794
00:34:17.316 --> 00:34:17.596
Thank you.

795
00:34:18.397 --> 00:34:18.976
Mr. Lafferty?

796
00:34:20.857 --> 00:34:23.326
I'm sorry, Madam Chair. Did Mr. Noonan have a-

797
00:34:23.326 --> 00:34:23.816
Yeah. Mr. Noonan, did you have more?

798
00:34:24.076 --> 00:34:24.866
You asked-

799
00:34:24.877 --> 00:34:25.496
Oh, no, I

800
00:34:27.076 --> 00:34:28.516
had nothing more to say other than what I said.

801
00:34:28.536 --> 00:34:28.857
Okay. Thank you.

802
00:34:29.116 --> 00:34:29.437
Okay.

803
00:34:30.296 --> 00:34:33.536
Madam Chair, my question's more so around the

804
00:34:34.496 --> 00:34:38.296
timing of this. We are renewing the second

805
00:34:38.357 --> 00:34:40.256
two-year period, Mr. Roy?

806
00:34:41.136 --> 00:34:41.736
Yes.

807
00:34:42.417 --> 00:34:45.156
So, the letter that we received from Flock

808
00:34:46.476 --> 00:34:48.256
is dated February 11th.

809
00:34:49.176 --> 00:34:52.316
The contract expired May 1st,

810
00:34:53.716 --> 00:34:53.866
end of

811
00:34:54.996 --> 00:34:58.736
April and begins May 1st. We're doing this retroactively.

812
00:34:59.736 --> 00:35:03.356
Why the length of time to bring this to council for

813
00:35:03.416 --> 00:35:05.676
consideration outside of the

814
00:35:07.456 --> 00:35:10.276
approving this if you've had the letter since February 11th?

815
00:35:11.376 --> 00:35:15.116
I can't speak on that definitively. We do have a representative here from Flock.

816
00:35:15.236 --> 00:35:16.576
We have a very strong relationship.

817
00:35:16.616 --> 00:35:17.836
I don't know if you would be able to speak to that.

818
00:35:17.876 --> 00:35:18.075
Yeah.

819
00:35:18.516 --> 00:35:18.936
Is that okay?

820
00:35:19.656 --> 00:35:22.636
No. My question is more from an administrative

821
00:35:22.736 --> 00:35:26.486
standpoint of, I've been fairly reasonable

822
00:35:26.596 --> 00:35:29.436
with requests for legal review.

823
00:35:30.736 --> 00:35:33.116
And the reason I bring this up is

824
00:35:34.216 --> 00:35:36.236
council is provided with a report

825
00:35:37.136 --> 00:35:40.956
that allows us purview into expiring

826
00:35:41.056 --> 00:35:43.596
contracts within 90 days.

827
00:35:44.416 --> 00:35:48.316
And so it's my expectation that all departments are following

828
00:35:48.396 --> 00:35:52.136
that schedule, and they're planning ahead of time to ensure that

829
00:35:52.196 --> 00:35:54.506
those contracts are brought to

830
00:35:55.316 --> 00:35:58.896
the legal department, the law department, in sufficient time to be brought to

831
00:35:58.936 --> 00:36:00.846
council prior to their expiration.

832
00:36:01.396 --> 00:36:05.376
Because this body is being asked to review and

833
00:36:05.416 --> 00:36:08.896
approve something that should've been reviewed and approved back

834
00:36:08.976 --> 00:36:10.836
in probably early April.

835
00:36:11.336 --> 00:36:13.826
Sure. Yeah, my recollection on that issue was that we had

836
00:36:14.896 --> 00:36:18.456
some contract language problems as far as contract terms.

837
00:36:19.436 --> 00:36:21.596
That took a little bit of time to work out.

838
00:36:21.656 --> 00:36:24.406
Okay. And has there been any interruption in service-

839
00:36:24.816 --> 00:36:24.896
No

840
00:36:24.916 --> 00:36:25.696
... in the meantime?

841
00:36:25.736 --> 00:36:25.966
No, there has not

842
00:36:26.484 --> 00:36:30.444
All right. So the cameras have been in operation even though

843
00:36:30.464 --> 00:36:31.944
we're lapsed on the contract?

844
00:36:32.304 --> 00:36:32.704
Yes.

845
00:36:32.764 --> 00:36:33.804
All right. Thank you.

846
00:36:34.324 --> 00:36:34.504
Thank you.

847
00:36:35.284 --> 00:36:39.204
I had just a couple questions. I know that it's tremendously useful.

848
00:36:39.304 --> 00:36:42.864
It was very apparent even during our ride-along. But to Mr.

849
00:36:43.084 --> 00:36:47.004
Noonan's point, what is the contractual language with

850
00:36:47.184 --> 00:36:51.104
data sharing amongst police departments, the federal government, other

851
00:36:51.144 --> 00:36:54.224
third-party entities? Because I know this has come up in other communities pretty

852
00:36:54.264 --> 00:36:54.704
frequently.

853
00:36:55.184 --> 00:36:58.724
Sure. We control all of the data sharing

854
00:36:58.844 --> 00:37:02.694
access. We have to approve every agency that

855
00:37:02.924 --> 00:37:06.004
requests to access data from our cameras.

856
00:37:06.304 --> 00:37:10.244
And then vice versa, when we request access to other camera networks, they have

857
00:37:10.284 --> 00:37:12.324
to approve ours as well.

858
00:37:13.964 --> 00:37:16.384
We don't have many federal agencies on our share list,

859
00:37:17.184 --> 00:37:20.744
and Immigration and Customs Enforcement is not one of them.

860
00:37:21.064 --> 00:37:24.024
Mm-hmm. Who is on the current share list, if you can say?

861
00:37:24.064 --> 00:37:26.004
There are over 2,000 agencies on the share list.

862
00:37:26.264 --> 00:37:28.514
It's nationwide, and that is reciprocal.

863
00:37:28.944 --> 00:37:32.804
So we get just as much benefit from that sharing relationship as

864
00:37:32.844 --> 00:37:33.564
they do from us.

865
00:37:34.104 --> 00:37:37.304
And do they have to get permission from you before they access it, or can they

866
00:37:37.404 --> 00:37:39.384
access the information at any point?

867
00:37:39.764 --> 00:37:42.944
So they can search against our network at any time, but they have to put in a

868
00:37:43.004 --> 00:37:46.964
search reason in there, and they have to list a valid legal

869
00:37:47.004 --> 00:37:48.514
reason for why they are making that search.

870
00:37:48.544 --> 00:37:52.164
So it's not just the Wild West where they're able to search for whatever, whenever.

871
00:37:52.194 --> 00:37:56.184
They have to put a law enforcement reason and, in most cases, an incident number

872
00:37:56.224 --> 00:37:59.764
as well that can be audited later. It doesn't happen

873
00:37:59.804 --> 00:38:00.904
covertly, I guess I would say.

874
00:38:00.984 --> 00:38:04.604
Yeah. How often are folks accessing the data?

875
00:38:04.664 --> 00:38:04.984
Do you know?

876
00:38:05.944 --> 00:38:06.523
Very often.

877
00:38:07.584 --> 00:38:09.024
And what

878
00:38:10.224 --> 00:38:12.984
is an example of what they would be using it for?

879
00:38:13.124 --> 00:38:16.944
For example, we'll take a drug trafficking example, interstate drug trafficking,

880
00:38:17.004 --> 00:38:19.964
where a courier is starting in the southern United States and coming all the way up

881
00:38:19.984 --> 00:38:23.684
to Michigan. The agency that's investigating that can see FLOC Safety scans for the

882
00:38:23.724 --> 00:38:25.384
entirety of that person's journey.

883
00:38:26.484 --> 00:38:26.494
Got it.

884
00:38:26.544 --> 00:38:27.644
That's a common example.

885
00:38:29.404 --> 00:38:31.054
Okay. Any other

886
00:38:34.324 --> 00:38:35.724
discussion or questions?

887
00:38:39.064 --> 00:38:39.264
Okay.

888
00:38:40.984 --> 00:38:44.824
So the motion is to, Mr. Noonan, you made a motion to approve the

889
00:38:44.904 --> 00:38:46.964
item, or you supported the motion?

890
00:38:48.844 --> 00:38:49.184
Do you want to withdraw-

891
00:38:49.224 --> 00:38:50.784
Yes, I will be voting no.

892
00:38:50.884 --> 00:38:51.964
But you have to withdraw your support.

893
00:38:52.064 --> 00:38:54.184
Oh, I'll withdraw my support.

894
00:38:54.224 --> 00:38:55.393
I will support Lafferty.

895
00:38:55.404 --> 00:38:56.044
Support Lafferty.

896
00:39:00.284 --> 00:39:02.064
Doesn't have a variable,

897
00:39:03.824 --> 00:39:04.744
so.

898
00:39:04.784 --> 00:39:07.794
Okay. I will call the question. Ms. Moore?

899
00:39:08.044 --> 00:39:08.384
Yes.

900
00:39:09.364 --> 00:39:10.384
Mr. Lafferty?

901
00:39:10.564 --> 00:39:10.864
Yes.

902
00:39:11.764 --> 00:39:12.584
Mr. Bolkey?

903
00:39:12.904 --> 00:39:13.124
Yes.

904
00:39:14.144 --> 00:39:14.744
Ms. McGee?

905
00:39:15.144 --> 00:39:15.484
Yes.

906
00:39:16.624 --> 00:39:17.364
Mr. Noonan?

907
00:39:17.744 --> 00:39:17.924
No.

908
00:39:19.224 --> 00:39:20.664
And Roggensie is a no.

909
00:39:21.684 --> 00:39:23.324
Motion carries. Next item.

910
00:39:23.964 --> 00:39:24.764
McClair would be yes.

911
00:39:25.224 --> 00:39:26.504
He's not here. Yeah.

912
00:39:26.844 --> 00:39:28.214
Did you call Mr. McClair?

913
00:39:28.344 --> 00:39:29.264
Yeah, I did. He said yes.

914
00:39:29.304 --> 00:39:29.644
Okay.

915
00:39:29.704 --> 00:39:30.384
Yeah. Next item.

916
00:39:30.624 --> 00:39:34.113
Next item is legal update 12A. Mr. Schroeder.

917
00:39:35.944 --> 00:39:36.584
Thank you.

918
00:39:37.884 --> 00:39:40.764
We have a bit of an extensive update today.

919
00:39:41.544 --> 00:39:44.524
Wanted to start with, there's a little bit of a PowerPoint

920
00:39:44.544 --> 00:39:48.444
presentation I have for the council to update

921
00:39:48.564 --> 00:39:51.084
on the Harvest Time Christian Fellowship

922
00:39:51.244 --> 00:39:54.944
litigation from the City of Warren, and

923
00:39:55.044 --> 00:39:59.024
also it dovetails into a federal lawsuit that was filed last

924
00:39:59.084 --> 00:40:02.274
week where Harvest Time Christian Fellowship and

925
00:40:02.324 --> 00:40:06.004
its president or acting director, Mr.

926
00:40:06.284 --> 00:40:10.184
Curtis Ostash, made some statements and filed a federal lawsuit.

927
00:40:11.364 --> 00:40:14.644
I'll get into that, but first we'll start with an update on our lawsuit,

928
00:40:15.384 --> 00:40:16.484
which is the

929
00:40:17.844 --> 00:40:21.584
11055 Jewett. This is a case

930
00:40:21.704 --> 00:40:25.274
filed by the City of Warren against Harvest Time Christian Fellowship

931
00:40:26.444 --> 00:40:30.324
and its principal over a property that the city

932
00:40:30.684 --> 00:40:34.084
gave to this nonprofit.

933
00:40:37.064 --> 00:40:39.104
So we're going to give some background and case overview.

934
00:40:39.464 --> 00:40:39.704
So

935
00:40:41.104 --> 00:40:44.743
this is, as you can see, the property at 11055 Jewett

936
00:40:44.863 --> 00:40:48.784
taken on April 15th of 2026. The

937
00:40:48.844 --> 00:40:50.744
background of this case is the city

938
00:40:51.744 --> 00:40:55.324
gave this property to Harvest Time Christian Fellowship for $1

939
00:40:55.744 --> 00:40:56.744
in 2019

940
00:40:57.564 --> 00:41:01.444
in exchange for the promise that the property will be up to code in six months and

941
00:41:01.504 --> 00:41:05.424
be used for transitional housing for members of the church.

942
00:41:06.064 --> 00:41:09.954
I will point out, in 2019, the property was valued at over

943
00:41:09.954 --> 00:41:13.934
$40,000 by the city assessor. Now the property itself is

944
00:41:14.904 --> 00:41:16.864
worth close to $100,000.

945
00:41:18.364 --> 00:41:21.784
The city can't just give property away. We can't give it away.

946
00:41:22.384 --> 00:41:26.224
So if you're going to have a property for a dollar, there has to be

947
00:41:26.264 --> 00:41:29.644
some sort of public purpose. There has to be some sort of public benefit.

948
00:41:30.304 --> 00:41:33.844
We did that recently with the community garden.

949
00:41:35.224 --> 00:41:38.764
It was a dollar lease, but there's a huge community benefit from that.

950
00:41:38.804 --> 00:41:39.994
They're benefiting the community.

951
00:41:40.704 --> 00:41:43.884
And in here, the benefit was going to be transitional housing for people who

952
00:41:43.924 --> 00:41:44.564
couldn't afford it.

953
00:41:45.964 --> 00:41:49.884
And so in 2024, approximately, at a

954
00:41:49.904 --> 00:41:53.084
city council meeting, we had residents from this neighborhood come and

955
00:41:53.244 --> 00:41:56.804
speak to say that the property owner was harboring

956
00:41:56.813 --> 00:41:59.284
dogs and the property was blighted.

957
00:41:59.344 --> 00:42:01.204
It was a mess. And

958
00:42:02.264 --> 00:42:06.184
the residents said that Mr. Ostash, who's the church pastor that

959
00:42:06.244 --> 00:42:10.044
was maintaining this property, would show up and open the front door and

960
00:42:10.084 --> 00:42:12.104
throw a bucket of dog food in and shut the door.

961
00:42:12.144 --> 00:42:16.114
And there was concern that these dogs were being abused, and they were just

962
00:42:16.144 --> 00:42:17.364
harbored inside this home.

963
00:42:18.244 --> 00:42:22.004
Of course, we looked up the records, and this home was supposed to be, within

964
00:42:22.084 --> 00:42:26.024
six months in 2019, brought up to code and have human beings living in this

965
00:42:26.044 --> 00:42:28.224
home who couldn't otherwise afford housing.

966
00:42:28.324 --> 00:42:31.504
That was our public purposeSo after further

967
00:42:31.524 --> 00:42:34.554
investigation, the city filed a claim to recover this

968
00:42:34.564 --> 00:42:37.854
property. We're saying he breached this contract,

969
00:42:38.604 --> 00:42:42.194
and also nuisance claim against the property owner for misuse and

970
00:42:42.244 --> 00:42:43.064
deterioration.

971
00:42:44.684 --> 00:42:48.394
He's hired two law firms. They're fighting this case tooth and

972
00:42:48.444 --> 00:42:51.484
nail. They do not want to give this property back to the city, nor do they want to

973
00:42:51.524 --> 00:42:53.324
improve this property.

974
00:42:54.584 --> 00:42:55.684
In fact, in the meantime,

975
00:42:56.924 --> 00:43:00.264
Mr. Ostash, if you read the newspaper, he offered a

976
00:43:00.274 --> 00:43:01.284
$1.5 million

977
00:43:03.164 --> 00:43:06.504
purchase agreement to buy the Sacred Heart Catholic Church that was closed from the

978
00:43:06.544 --> 00:43:08.924
Archdiocese of Detroit in Roseville.

979
00:43:08.944 --> 00:43:12.444
He put $25,000 down on this property and then breached that contract.

980
00:43:13.064 --> 00:43:16.864
So he has the ability to sign a $1.5 million

981
00:43:16.904 --> 00:43:20.004
purchase agreement for property in Roseville, but he can't put a dime into this

982
00:43:20.024 --> 00:43:20.584
property.

983
00:43:21.454 --> 00:43:24.824
So we had to get a court order to inspect this property.

984
00:43:25.444 --> 00:43:28.424
So on April 15th of 2026,

985
00:43:29.984 --> 00:43:31.624
we had Inspector

986
00:43:32.544 --> 00:43:33.064
Jim Kaiser,

987
00:43:34.064 --> 00:43:36.984
who's tremendous, and we also had Steve Campbell from the public service

988
00:43:37.004 --> 00:43:37.434
department,

989
00:43:38.264 --> 00:43:42.054
who is a retired police officer who works in public service,

990
00:43:42.624 --> 00:43:45.624
show up for an inspection along with one of my colleagues from my law firm.

991
00:43:47.864 --> 00:43:48.104
And

992
00:43:49.844 --> 00:43:53.184
what we found that day at this inspection, I personally wasn't there, my colleague

993
00:43:53.244 --> 00:43:54.944
was, was that

994
00:43:57.464 --> 00:43:59.584
they really hadn't fulfilled their obligations.

995
00:43:59.724 --> 00:44:02.624
Here's one of the photos from that property walkthrough.

996
00:44:02.664 --> 00:44:04.184
This is probably the best of the photos.

997
00:44:05.604 --> 00:44:07.164
I will let you know that neither Mr.

998
00:44:07.444 --> 00:44:11.394
Ostash nor his attorneys came into the home during the walkthrough.

999
00:44:11.724 --> 00:44:12.864
They stayed out in their car

1000
00:44:13.944 --> 00:44:14.724
with the heat on.

1001
00:44:16.284 --> 00:44:17.504
They didn't want to come into this home.

1002
00:44:17.724 --> 00:44:18.404
So

1003
00:44:19.744 --> 00:44:22.204
obviously, they haven't fulfilled their obligations.

1004
00:44:23.084 --> 00:44:26.704
They did get a certificate of occupancy. This house hasn't been brought up to code.

1005
00:44:29.124 --> 00:44:32.204
We also have some more findings from this inspection.

1006
00:44:33.144 --> 00:44:36.514
As you can see, every inch of this house is full of garbage and

1007
00:44:36.544 --> 00:44:40.344
debris. There's deterioration, obstructions, hazardous

1008
00:44:40.364 --> 00:44:40.963
conditions,

1009
00:44:43.024 --> 00:44:43.384
and

1010
00:44:44.544 --> 00:44:46.724
really, there's public health and safety concerns here.

1011
00:44:47.824 --> 00:44:49.033
The exterior of the property-

1012
00:44:50.764 --> 00:44:51.864
I don't know what's going on with that.

1013
00:44:51.924 --> 00:44:55.584
Hit the X in the top left or top right The

1014
00:44:55.604 --> 00:44:58.593
exterior of the property, as you can see, this is what the neighbors have to look

1015
00:44:58.684 --> 00:45:02.563
at. There's damaged walls, deteriorated fencing, clogged

1016
00:45:02.624 --> 00:45:03.144
gutters,

1017
00:45:04.044 --> 00:45:06.664
debris accumulation around the property.

1018
00:45:06.674 --> 00:45:08.424
This is visible from public areas.

1019
00:45:08.644 --> 00:45:12.224
It could lower property values in the neighborhood, and it's unsightly for the

1020
00:45:12.244 --> 00:45:15.444
residents in the area. There are just numerous code violations,

1021
00:45:16.824 --> 00:45:18.944
and this property is clearly a nuisance.

1022
00:45:19.044 --> 00:45:20.524
The interior conditions,

1023
00:45:21.404 --> 00:45:24.324
the inspector noticed an overwhelming putrid odor,

1024
00:45:25.304 --> 00:45:27.524
severe sanitation problems in the property.

1025
00:45:28.004 --> 00:45:31.204
They couldn't move around because of the excessive garbage and debris all

1026
00:45:31.244 --> 00:45:32.004
throughout the home.

1027
00:45:33.984 --> 00:45:35.724
Clutter, hazardous conditions,

1028
00:45:37.204 --> 00:45:38.604
disarray, and contamination.

1029
00:45:40.744 --> 00:45:41.124
Also,

1030
00:45:42.604 --> 00:45:46.304
animal feces all over the place. All over the

1031
00:45:46.344 --> 00:45:49.644
place. He never cleaned up after these dogs, other feces all over the

1032
00:45:49.684 --> 00:45:50.904
bathroom.

1033
00:45:51.824 --> 00:45:54.964
There's sanitation and disease transmission risks here.

1034
00:45:56.564 --> 00:46:00.284
Blocked exits. The electrical panel was inaccessible in the home-

1035
00:46:01.304 --> 00:46:03.634
Oof ... which is a fire hazard. Mm-hmm.

1036
00:46:04.744 --> 00:46:07.264
Unstable debris piles everywhere.

1037
00:46:08.264 --> 00:46:09.384
It was really disgusting.

1038
00:46:12.404 --> 00:46:14.384
Excuse me. Critical areas of concern.

1039
00:46:15.304 --> 00:46:16.644
The kitchen area was inaccessible.

1040
00:46:16.684 --> 00:46:19.444
You can see here sort of a best photo they could get of the kitchen.

1041
00:46:20.564 --> 00:46:22.744
It smelled horrible. They were gagging.

1042
00:46:22.964 --> 00:46:24.704
These people were gagging inside of this home.

1043
00:46:26.764 --> 00:46:27.054
And

1044
00:46:28.904 --> 00:46:32.354
I don't know what more there is to say other than this is absolutely

1045
00:46:32.364 --> 00:46:35.264
disgusting. Every room is a disaster.

1046
00:46:35.584 --> 00:46:37.044
He used this as a

1047
00:46:37.984 --> 00:46:41.774
storage, a place for storing garbage, junk, debris, and harboring

1048
00:46:41.864 --> 00:46:44.644
animals after six years. And

1049
00:46:45.644 --> 00:46:48.184
they refused access into the garage. So we still don't have the garage.

1050
00:46:48.224 --> 00:46:50.164
We're going to have to go back to the court and get a court order to go in the

1051
00:46:50.184 --> 00:46:53.324
garage. I can only imagine what's behind this door.

1052
00:46:53.364 --> 00:46:54.484
Okay?

1053
00:46:55.764 --> 00:46:58.364
Yes. And so here is the inspection report.

1054
00:47:01.004 --> 00:47:03.684
The interior conditions create a serious health hazard.

1055
00:47:03.724 --> 00:47:07.704
This is Inspector Jim Kaiser, who's done a great job, and I want to thank

1056
00:47:07.964 --> 00:47:08.764
Dave Mazzarelli,

1057
00:47:10.054 --> 00:47:13.464
the public service director, Jim Kaiser, who is the zoning inspector,

1058
00:47:14.044 --> 00:47:17.784
and Steve Campbell, who's the administrative supervisor in the Department of

1059
00:47:17.864 --> 00:47:21.453
Public Service, for putting themselves at risk just to do these

1060
00:47:21.484 --> 00:47:22.144
inspections.

1061
00:47:23.544 --> 00:47:26.244
The odor was so severe it caused physical distress.

1062
00:47:26.634 --> 00:47:30.424
The inspection was conducted with difficulty, and I experienced nausea while inside

1063
00:47:30.444 --> 00:47:34.184
the structure. The condition of this residence presents a

1064
00:47:34.244 --> 00:47:37.724
health, safety, and welfare risk not only to the occupants but the surrounding

1065
00:47:37.764 --> 00:47:41.564
community. The conclusion is it is unfathomable that a residential

1066
00:47:41.664 --> 00:47:44.004
structure is being maintained in this condition.

1067
00:47:44.044 --> 00:47:47.244
The property represents a clear and immediate threat to public health and safety

1068
00:47:47.254 --> 00:47:49.824
and requires urgent enforcement action.

1069
00:47:49.904 --> 00:47:53.664
So we are filing motions in the court to get this thing declared a public nuisance

1070
00:47:53.784 --> 00:47:57.664
and to get this property back some way so it can be restored to a

1071
00:47:57.704 --> 00:48:01.524
condition that is not a nuisance to the neighbors and not a health threat.

1072
00:48:02.244 --> 00:48:02.924
In the meantime,

1073
00:48:04.644 --> 00:48:08.444
Mr. Ostash thinks we're retaliating against him for his religious

1074
00:48:08.464 --> 00:48:08.824
beliefs

1075
00:48:10.664 --> 00:48:14.064
based on what... This very lawsuit we have in circuit court.

1076
00:48:14.114 --> 00:48:16.704
You've seen the photos, you've seen the inspection results.

1077
00:48:16.744 --> 00:48:20.594
He's filed a federal lawsuit alleging religious discrimination,

1078
00:48:20.624 --> 00:48:24.504
that somehow the city of Warren is discriminating against his religion by

1079
00:48:24.584 --> 00:48:28.484
conducting this case. He wants the federal court to issue an injunction to stop us

1080
00:48:28.524 --> 00:48:30.804
from proceeding with this lawsuit. Okay?

1081
00:48:32.264 --> 00:48:36.228
So, um-Obviously, we

1082
00:48:36.268 --> 00:48:38.308
know we have a public nuisance here.

1083
00:48:38.788 --> 00:48:42.008
A public nuisance unreasonably interferes with the health, safety, and welfare

1084
00:48:42.028 --> 00:48:45.928
rights common to the public. Our inspections showed the debris, the

1085
00:48:45.968 --> 00:48:48.348
feces, the structural decay, the hazards.

1086
00:48:49.788 --> 00:48:53.468
I think there were 70 property maintenance violations over the last four or five

1087
00:48:53.508 --> 00:48:54.398
years at this property.

1088
00:48:56.058 --> 00:48:57.968
Mostly all uncorrected violations.

1089
00:48:58.528 --> 00:49:01.328
You can't even look at this without being disgusted.

1090
00:49:02.108 --> 00:49:05.148
But he thinks it's discrimination, religious discrimination.

1091
00:49:05.228 --> 00:49:08.988
So last week, or actually on May 19th, he

1092
00:49:09.048 --> 00:49:11.808
filed a federal lawsuit against the city.

1093
00:49:12.788 --> 00:49:16.468
Here's an excerpt from that lawsuit, and he's

1094
00:49:16.508 --> 00:49:20.068
claiming retaliation under federal law against the church regarding the

1095
00:49:20.108 --> 00:49:24.087
lawsuit over the property at 11055 Jewett.

1096
00:49:24.968 --> 00:49:26.608
He went on a media tour last week.

1097
00:49:27.508 --> 00:49:31.088
I don't know if anybody was watching the news, but I think CBS,

1098
00:49:31.588 --> 00:49:32.488
WXYZ,

1099
00:49:33.348 --> 00:49:36.528
multiple news outlets covered this federal lawsuit.

1100
00:49:38.328 --> 00:49:40.358
So that's part of the reason for the update here today,

1101
00:49:41.288 --> 00:49:45.208
is to clear the record for anybody who might be confused that there might be any

1102
00:49:45.228 --> 00:49:48.948
merit at all to this lawsuit. And of course, this is going to

1103
00:49:48.988 --> 00:49:51.748
cost the taxpayers of Warren. It's costing the taxpayers of Warren to

1104
00:49:52.588 --> 00:49:54.178
try to fix this property that was given to him.

1105
00:49:54.498 --> 00:49:57.748
It's going to cost the taxpayers of Warren to defend against this frivolous

1106
00:49:57.768 --> 00:50:00.048
lawsuit. How frivolous is this lawsuit?

1107
00:50:01.308 --> 00:50:03.408
He's fabricating things about city council.

1108
00:50:04.028 --> 00:50:07.728
He's saying that at a council meeting, a council member called for the

1109
00:50:07.768 --> 00:50:10.528
mayor to call out the army to round up people like him.

1110
00:50:10.948 --> 00:50:13.948
He said a council member stated at council meetings that the plaintiff and people

1111
00:50:13.968 --> 00:50:16.128
like him should be rounded up and executed.

1112
00:50:16.828 --> 00:50:18.788
Now, I can tell you that this did not happen.

1113
00:50:19.388 --> 00:50:23.308
We have a city council for the last 40 years that has recorded

1114
00:50:23.408 --> 00:50:26.388
every single council meeting. We had the VHS era.

1115
00:50:26.428 --> 00:50:29.728
We had the DVD era. Now we have the online era.

1116
00:50:29.748 --> 00:50:33.408
You want any council meeting for 40 years, from gavel to

1117
00:50:33.508 --> 00:50:33.868
gavel,

1118
00:50:34.788 --> 00:50:38.708
you can find it. Yet he finds it appropriate to tell a federal court

1119
00:50:38.748 --> 00:50:42.558
in a filing that someone called for him to be rounded up and executed, that someone

1120
00:50:42.608 --> 00:50:44.727
asked the mayor to call the army to round him up.

1121
00:50:45.507 --> 00:50:48.608
This is the basis of his lawsuit. So I don't know.

1122
00:50:48.648 --> 00:50:48.788
It's

1123
00:50:49.608 --> 00:50:53.098
hard to get me outraged because I think I've seen a lot around town, but

1124
00:50:53.648 --> 00:50:57.408
this is an outrage. And so, we are going

1125
00:50:57.468 --> 00:51:01.368
to fight this on behalf of the taxpayers and

1126
00:51:01.388 --> 00:51:04.888
at the direction of city council to get this property back in the proper condition

1127
00:51:05.308 --> 00:51:06.628
and also defend against these

1128
00:51:08.228 --> 00:51:10.268
false allegations. Absolutely false.

1129
00:51:10.988 --> 00:51:13.148
And this is just one excerpt from the lawsuit.

1130
00:51:13.688 --> 00:51:15.448
We will circulate a copy to the council.

1131
00:51:16.168 --> 00:51:17.488
There are all kinds of

1132
00:51:20.228 --> 00:51:22.228
crazy allegations in this lawsuit,

1133
00:51:23.668 --> 00:51:27.498
homophobic, all kinds of statements in there that are just beyond the pale.

1134
00:51:28.328 --> 00:51:28.888
So

1135
00:51:29.968 --> 00:51:30.478
in any event,

1136
00:51:31.328 --> 00:51:34.718
what are our next steps? We're going to get this property.

1137
00:51:34.778 --> 00:51:37.618
We're going to file a motion to have this property declared a nuisance.

1138
00:51:37.688 --> 00:51:39.808
We're going to continue to try to get the property back.

1139
00:51:39.828 --> 00:51:43.248
Of course, litigation sometimes moves slowly.

1140
00:51:43.508 --> 00:51:47.408
Too slow for all of us, but because of this inspection report and the public health

1141
00:51:47.448 --> 00:51:50.428
hazards, we think we can probably expedite it a little bit.

1142
00:51:50.548 --> 00:51:54.408
So, that's the update on that

1143
00:51:54.468 --> 00:51:55.088
situation.

1144
00:51:55.988 --> 00:51:59.648
And dovetailing off of that, this is a little bit related, there are four

1145
00:52:00.488 --> 00:52:04.268
pending lawsuits right now that need to be assigned by the city.

1146
00:52:04.668 --> 00:52:05.888
I'm looking at Ms. Michaels here.

1147
00:52:08.188 --> 00:52:11.688
And of course, under the charter, the council has to approve all outside legal

1148
00:52:11.748 --> 00:52:15.028
assignments. And, as part of my report, I'm going to make a

1149
00:52:15.068 --> 00:52:18.788
recommendation, and if there's a motion to receive and file the report, we can

1150
00:52:18.868 --> 00:52:21.868
execute that with the help of our legal affairs committee.

1151
00:52:21.908 --> 00:52:24.268
We have this particular lawsuit that needs to be assigned.

1152
00:52:24.348 --> 00:52:26.148
We have the Hall case,

1153
00:52:27.468 --> 00:52:31.288
which was a case where the prosecutor's office dismissed charges,

1154
00:52:31.968 --> 00:52:34.868
and there's now a lawsuit against the police department.

1155
00:52:34.908 --> 00:52:38.828
We have the gazebo case on Mound Road, which was a

1156
00:52:39.428 --> 00:52:39.868
planning

1157
00:52:40.948 --> 00:52:43.908
commission decision. And there's another one. What's the other?

1158
00:52:44.948 --> 00:52:46.448
Those were three. Is there a fourth case?

1159
00:52:46.628 --> 00:52:47.108
Main three.

1160
00:52:47.428 --> 00:52:47.908
What's that?

1161
00:52:49.208 --> 00:52:49.818
Those are the main three.

1162
00:52:49.818 --> 00:52:50.808
Those are the main three. So,

1163
00:52:51.668 --> 00:52:52.607
as part of this motion,

1164
00:52:53.927 --> 00:52:57.328
I discussed this with Ms. Michaels and the council

1165
00:52:57.388 --> 00:53:01.268
secretary that Ms. Michaels and I will get together by tomorrow

1166
00:53:01.278 --> 00:53:04.668
and make a recommendation for three different firms on these

1167
00:53:04.728 --> 00:53:07.168
cases and give it to HR.

1168
00:53:08.208 --> 00:53:11.248
And we need to get moving in defending the city on these cases.

1169
00:53:11.308 --> 00:53:11.488
So-

1170
00:53:13.668 --> 00:53:13.778
Thank you

1171
00:53:13.778 --> 00:53:14.408
... that's the report.

1172
00:53:14.928 --> 00:53:18.268
Motion to receive and file with discussion.

1173
00:53:18.888 --> 00:53:19.628
Support Lafferty.

1174
00:53:21.388 --> 00:53:22.748
Discussion, Ms. Moore.

1175
00:53:22.988 --> 00:53:26.588
I just want to say that this is the second time we've been

1176
00:53:26.708 --> 00:53:29.688
fleeced over property that we've sold for a dollar.

1177
00:53:29.928 --> 00:53:30.138
Mm-hmm.

1178
00:53:30.468 --> 00:53:33.768
And this is worse than the last time, but

1179
00:53:34.808 --> 00:53:38.648
they both were not fair, and we were trying to do something

1180
00:53:38.728 --> 00:53:42.688
to help people that needed help. And this is what

1181
00:53:42.728 --> 00:53:46.558
they turned that property into. And if you'll

1182
00:53:46.628 --> 00:53:50.188
remember, the neighbors are the first ones that really alerted us

1183
00:53:50.348 --> 00:53:54.228
to what was going on in that house because of the dogs that were

1184
00:53:54.668 --> 00:53:57.248
just kept in there as prisoners, basically.

1185
00:53:57.328 --> 00:53:59.748
I don't even know if they were ever let out.

1186
00:54:00.128 --> 00:54:03.268
But because of the condition of the house, I don't think they were let out very

1187
00:54:03.348 --> 00:54:03.768
often.

1188
00:54:05.248 --> 00:54:07.428
And I think animal control was out there.

1189
00:54:07.528 --> 00:54:10.628
So there's lots and lots of stories that went on with this property.

1190
00:54:12.068 --> 00:54:16.048
And it's really unfortunate because there are a lot of people that need to be

1191
00:54:16.088 --> 00:54:19.908
helped in this world, and we were doing what we thought was the right thing to

1192
00:54:19.948 --> 00:54:22.178
do to help. In one

1193
00:54:23.668 --> 00:54:27.588
case, it was a nonprofit, and they took advantage, and

1194
00:54:28.388 --> 00:54:31.548
now this is just horrendous. So I thank Mr.

1195
00:54:31.888 --> 00:54:34.598
Schroeder and his firm and everybody in public service

1196
00:54:34.940 --> 00:54:38.820
Mr. Mazzarelli and Mr. Campbell and everybody else involved in doing all

1197
00:54:38.860 --> 00:54:39.500
this work.

1198
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:44.260
It's just a shame that they just don't just turn it back to us, because

1199
00:54:44.740 --> 00:54:45.440
what are they going to do?

1200
00:54:46.540 --> 00:54:47.540
It's just disgusting.

1201
00:54:48.700 --> 00:54:51.220
I know. Pictures are worth a thousand words, I guess.

1202
00:54:52.260 --> 00:54:52.619
Thank you.

1203
00:54:53.020 --> 00:54:54.320
Any other discussion?

1204
00:54:55.730 --> 00:54:56.180
Madam Chair?

1205
00:54:56.540 --> 00:54:57.070
Mr. Lafferty.

1206
00:54:57.900 --> 00:55:01.840
Mr. Schroeder, do you need a motion this evening for the retention of three

1207
00:55:01.940 --> 00:55:02.360
firms?

1208
00:55:02.460 --> 00:55:02.480
No.

1209
00:55:03.020 --> 00:55:03.110
Or-

1210
00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:03.480
Okay.

1211
00:55:03.560 --> 00:55:06.760
I think as part of the motion, Mrs. Ludde, the idea is Ms.

1212
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:10.670
Michaels and I will make a joint recommendation,

1213
00:55:10.980 --> 00:55:14.149
inform the legal affairs committee, and get it to HR or whoever the appropriate

1214
00:55:14.420 --> 00:55:14.530
person is.

1215
00:55:14.530 --> 00:55:15.620
Recommendation's forthcoming.

1216
00:55:15.660 --> 00:55:15.820
Yeah.

1217
00:55:16.120 --> 00:55:16.320
Okay.

1218
00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:21.440
All right, so there was a motion to receive and file. No more discussion.

1219
00:55:21.540 --> 00:55:23.080
I will call the question. All in favor?

1220
00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:23.660
Aye.

1221
00:55:24.130 --> 00:55:24.130
Aye.

1222
00:55:24.140 --> 00:55:24.190
Aye.

1223
00:55:24.190 --> 00:55:24.920
Any opposed?

1224
00:55:26.149 --> 00:55:27.340
Motion carries. Next item.

1225
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:30.980
Next item is 12B, request to assign a business

1226
00:55:31.020 --> 00:55:34.520
license appeal to Nancy Cooper Green and request she conduct an

1227
00:55:34.580 --> 00:55:38.200
administrative hearing on the matter, Jerry Holden

1228
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:42.000
II, massage therapist, petitioner. So moved.

1229
00:55:42.340 --> 00:55:43.020
Support Lafferty.

1230
00:55:44.020 --> 00:55:44.740
Any discussion?

1231
00:55:47.100 --> 00:55:49.200
Hearing and seeing none, I'll call the question. Ms. Moore?

1232
00:55:49.380 --> 00:55:49.500
Yes.

1233
00:55:49.580 --> 00:55:50.240
Mr. Lafferty?

1234
00:55:50.360 --> 00:55:50.600
Yes.

1235
00:55:51.240 --> 00:55:53.000
Mr. Noonan? Yes. Ms. McGee?

1236
00:55:53.060 --> 00:55:53.220
Yes.

1237
00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:57.280
Mr. Boyke? Yes. Roggenklep is yes. Motion carries. Next item.

1238
00:55:57.360 --> 00:56:01.280
Next item is 12C, consideration and adoption of a resolution approving

1239
00:56:01.420 --> 00:56:04.820
settlement in the matter of Rue Miles versus City of Warren et al.

1240
00:56:06.540 --> 00:56:06.860
Warren,

1241
00:56:07.900 --> 00:56:11.630
this is Wayne County Circuit

1242
00:56:11.740 --> 00:56:12.880
Court case number

1243
00:56:13.100 --> 00:56:16.860
2025001362NI, as discussed in

1244
00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:20.820
closed session May 21, 2026. So moved.

1245
00:56:21.300 --> 00:56:22.120
Support Lafferty.

1246
00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:26.120
Because this is a settlement matter, there's no discussion.

1247
00:56:26.440 --> 00:56:28.620
I will call the question. Ms. Moore?

1248
00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:28.980
Yes.

1249
00:56:29.120 --> 00:56:29.750
Mr. Lafferty?

1250
00:56:29.860 --> 00:56:30.100
Yes.

1251
00:56:30.240 --> 00:56:33.500
Mr. Boyke? Yes. Mr. Noonan? Yes. Ms. McGee?

1252
00:56:33.800 --> 00:56:34.540
Yes.

1253
00:56:34.560 --> 00:56:37.099
Roggenklep is a yes. Motion carries. Next item.

1254
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:41.080
Madam Chair, before we get off of council business, if I could

1255
00:56:41.220 --> 00:56:44.700
ask to amend the agenda at this point to add one item that

1256
00:56:44.860 --> 00:56:47.620
I failed to add under announcements

1257
00:56:48.580 --> 00:56:52.500
regarding this award that we were given last night to

1258
00:56:52.520 --> 00:56:53.550
the city council .

1259
00:56:53.640 --> 00:56:55.720
Do you want to go back to announcements?

1260
00:56:55.860 --> 00:56:56.900
Yeah. If we could.

1261
00:56:58.640 --> 00:56:59.660
Do we need a motion for that?

1262
00:56:59.940 --> 00:57:01.300
Motion to suspend the rules.

1263
00:57:01.600 --> 00:57:03.400
Thank you. Support. All in favor?

1264
00:57:03.660 --> 00:57:04.020
Aye.

1265
00:57:04.529 --> 00:57:04.529
Aye.

1266
00:57:04.529 --> 00:57:04.529
Aye.

1267
00:57:04.529 --> 00:57:04.529
Aye.

1268
00:57:04.540 --> 00:57:06.320
Rules are suspended. Thank you, Madam Chair.

1269
00:57:06.330 --> 00:57:06.410
Thank you so much.

1270
00:57:06.520 --> 00:57:06.680
Mm-hmm.

1271
00:57:07.240 --> 00:57:09.060
Last night, the

1272
00:57:10.460 --> 00:57:13.890
Michigan Cricket Association

1273
00:57:14.180 --> 00:57:16.540
had a little

1274
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:20.800
event and celebration. All council members were invited,

1275
00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:22.760
and they gave this

1276
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:27.610
award to us. "With deep appreciation to the Warren City

1277
00:57:27.740 --> 00:57:31.380
Council for your leadership and support in making a community

1278
00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:35.260
cricket field a reality. Your contribution will inspire

1279
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:38.620
generations to come." From the Bangladesh Cricket

1280
00:57:38.660 --> 00:57:42.500
Association of Michigan. It was a very nice event, and we were

1281
00:57:42.540 --> 00:57:46.200
very honored that they took the time to actually

1282
00:57:46.340 --> 00:57:46.960
thank us.

1283
00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:51.200
It took a long time. What, six years we start, Mr. Lafferty?

1284
00:57:51.260 --> 00:57:51.360
Six years.

1285
00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:51.960
2020.

1286
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:53.240
And

1287
00:57:54.040 --> 00:57:57.840
it has gone back and forth, but now it's going to be reality.

1288
00:57:57.940 --> 00:57:59.120
We just have to figure out some

1289
00:57:59.960 --> 00:58:00.280
of the final

1290
00:58:01.140 --> 00:58:05.100
pieces to it. But we're very thankful to them, and they've waited a long

1291
00:58:05.180 --> 00:58:08.920
time. The cricketers are very excited to

1292
00:58:09.040 --> 00:58:10.320
start, and

1293
00:58:11.540 --> 00:58:15.140
they're very happy to be at Shaw Park. That's a good location for them.

1294
00:58:15.700 --> 00:58:19.620
So we're all very excited about this project.

1295
00:58:19.980 --> 00:58:20.360
That's all.

1296
00:58:20.440 --> 00:58:20.820
Thank you.

1297
00:58:21.520 --> 00:58:22.680
Thank you for indulging me.

1298
00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:24.740
We will

1299
00:58:25.620 --> 00:58:28.580
resume. We are on 13A.

1300
00:58:28.809 --> 00:58:32.060
A. Request to consider an amendment to the fiscal year

1301
00:58:32.240 --> 00:58:36.100
2027 water and sewer system rate ordinance to include

1302
00:58:36.140 --> 00:58:38.600
the cross connection inspection program.

1303
00:58:38.900 --> 00:58:40.210
First reading, so moved.

1304
00:58:40.780 --> 00:58:42.300
Support Lafferty with discussion.

1305
00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:43.760
Discussion, Mr. Lafferty.

1306
00:58:44.120 --> 00:58:46.740
Thank you. Through the chair to Mr. Koss.

1307
00:59:00.120 --> 00:59:00.460
Good evening.

1308
00:59:00.580 --> 00:59:04.460
Good evening, sir. Could you please describe in brief summary

1309
00:59:04.600 --> 00:59:06.080
the cross connection program?

1310
00:59:06.680 --> 00:59:10.660
So, what this entails, and regulated by the state, mandated by

1311
00:59:10.700 --> 00:59:11.420
the state, EGLE,

1312
00:59:12.380 --> 00:59:15.260
that we inspect all homes in the city.

1313
00:59:15.920 --> 00:59:19.720
Basically, we don't want non-potable water to get into potable

1314
00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:23.140
water. So we have to check the plumbing inside the home,

1315
00:59:23.990 --> 00:59:27.680
the fixtures, and outside the home to make sure there's no cross

1316
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:31.680
connection. So we don't want to have that interconnection where it could

1317
00:59:31.720 --> 00:59:33.160
contaminate our water system.

1318
00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:38.140
All right. Can you cite a couple of

1319
00:59:38.180 --> 00:59:41.660
sources of cross connection that could potentially happen?

1320
00:59:41.900 --> 00:59:45.460
Could be a hose bib on the outside of the house, if it doesn't have a

1321
00:59:45.700 --> 00:59:49.100
proper vacuum breaker on it and a hose is in a tank or in a

1322
00:59:49.160 --> 00:59:52.920
pool. And if we have a loss of pressure, it could actually back

1323
00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:53.850
siphon into the home.

1324
00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:57.620
The boiler systems are another key factor.

1325
00:59:58.680 --> 01:00:01.520
Some pumps, if there are any, and there isn't any really in the city.

1326
01:00:01.580 --> 01:00:05.250
There's maybe a few. That's another factor that

1327
01:00:05.300 --> 01:00:06.900
could backflow into our system.

1328
01:00:07.580 --> 01:00:11.520
All right. So the cross connections, you are sending out

1329
01:00:11.620 --> 01:00:12.130
a letter-

1330
01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:12.880
Yes

1331
01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:15.660
... to residents. You're doing section by section, is that correct?

1332
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:19.460
Yes, that's correct. Our goal is to get through the city in five

1333
01:00:19.540 --> 01:00:22.730
years, because the inspection is required every five years per home.

1334
01:00:24.780 --> 01:00:28.760
We break up the city in five different sections, so that's 10,000 inspections a

1335
01:00:28.820 --> 01:00:29.040
year.

1336
01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:33.100
So that's going to be a full agenda for us.

1337
01:00:33.560 --> 01:00:36.200
All right. And who's responsible for scheduling the inspections?

1338
01:00:37.172 --> 01:00:39.852
That goes through our customer service. That goes directly through us.

1339
01:00:40.512 --> 01:00:44.392
So the homeowner has to contact the water department

1340
01:00:44.612 --> 01:00:46.652
and schedule and arrange for an inspection?

1341
01:00:47.192 --> 01:00:50.752
Actually, what we're doing is we're sending a letter out ahead of time, within the

1342
01:00:50.792 --> 01:00:54.612
two-week span, to let the homeowners know that we're going to be in their

1343
01:00:54.692 --> 01:00:56.032
area at a certain time period.

1344
01:00:56.862 --> 01:01:00.452
Then we actually put signs up on the end of their blocks that show them that we're

1345
01:01:00.512 --> 01:01:02.832
there, and then we start the door-to-door process.

1346
01:01:03.692 --> 01:01:06.972
We're getting better than 55%

1347
01:01:08.132 --> 01:01:12.012
that people are responding to us

1348
01:01:12.292 --> 01:01:15.252
with this, either by letter or knocking on the door.

1349
01:01:15.592 --> 01:01:19.472
If we cannot get into the residence, nobody home, we leave a

1350
01:01:19.512 --> 01:01:23.172
card on the door. And we've been getting pretty good responses from just our cards

1351
01:01:23.212 --> 01:01:26.312
leaving, that they're calling us in for inspections.

1352
01:01:26.672 --> 01:01:30.332
All right. Does the state mandate 100% compliance?

1353
01:01:30.432 --> 01:01:32.012
Is there a tolerance

1354
01:01:32.852 --> 01:01:33.792
for compliance?

1355
01:01:34.332 --> 01:01:35.172
Yes.

1356
01:01:36.762 --> 01:01:38.402
I know it's kind of a double-edged question.

1357
01:01:38.432 --> 01:01:42.232
Right. The state is really enforcing all communities to do

1358
01:01:42.292 --> 01:01:45.352
that. They're not looking at 100%.

1359
01:01:45.372 --> 01:01:49.312
The goal is 100%, but that we're making a good effort

1360
01:01:49.372 --> 01:01:52.712
to comply with the compliance.

1361
01:01:53.112 --> 01:01:56.331
All right. And the testing, you said that's once every five years.

1362
01:01:56.412 --> 01:01:56.812
Yes.

1363
01:01:56.872 --> 01:01:59.732
Who is responsible for paying the bill for the inspection at the home?

1364
01:02:00.892 --> 01:02:02.052
That is us.

1365
01:02:02.552 --> 01:02:03.592
All right. So-

1366
01:02:03.652 --> 01:02:07.392
Right. That's part of what this is for, to help us recoup some of our

1367
01:02:07.432 --> 01:02:11.012
money for personnel to actually do the inspections.

1368
01:02:11.032 --> 01:02:13.722
We're doing this all in-house with our own

1369
01:02:14.912 --> 01:02:18.832
employees. Most communities around us are using an outside

1370
01:02:18.892 --> 01:02:20.152
agency called HydroCorp.

1371
01:02:21.472 --> 01:02:25.412
Very expensive. Surrounding community has half the

1372
01:02:25.452 --> 01:02:29.092
services that we have in the city of Warren, and it's costing them somewhere about

1373
01:02:29.132 --> 01:02:30.192
a million dollars a year

1374
01:02:31.052 --> 01:02:31.652
to have it done

1375
01:02:32.632 --> 01:02:33.192
externally.

1376
01:02:33.892 --> 01:02:37.672
All right. So through this surcharge, essentially, is

1377
01:02:38.112 --> 01:02:41.852
covering overall the cost of your people,

1378
01:02:42.412 --> 01:02:46.252
the scheduling, the inspections, and everything involved in the

1379
01:02:46.312 --> 01:02:46.732
program.

1380
01:02:46.771 --> 01:02:49.232
Right. And what we're doing is we're actually giving the hose

1381
01:02:50.292 --> 01:02:54.212
vacuum breaker for the outside spigots on the homes, because

1382
01:02:54.252 --> 01:02:58.192
it's easier for us to just give them the spigots, have them put them on,

1383
01:02:58.812 --> 01:03:02.492
than for us to try to go back, reinspect it, and get

1384
01:03:02.532 --> 01:03:05.332
everybody to do it. That's in compliance with EGLE.

1385
01:03:05.472 --> 01:03:08.752
They allow us to do that, so that's what we're doing. It's a couple of dollars.

1386
01:03:08.912 --> 01:03:12.522
It's about $4 to $5 per device, depending

1387
01:03:12.592 --> 01:03:16.232
on most homes have one to two spigots that may need it.

1388
01:03:16.292 --> 01:03:19.972
A lot of newer homes have what they call anti-spigots on them, so

1389
01:03:20.032 --> 01:03:22.692
they're built into the spigot.

1390
01:03:22.702 --> 01:03:22.732
Mm-hmm.

1391
01:03:22.772 --> 01:03:25.612
So they have anti-siphon devices.

1392
01:03:25.692 --> 01:03:29.412
And in those cases, you wouldn't have to provide any sort of device that's already

1393
01:03:29.432 --> 01:03:30.652
provided by the homeowner-

1394
01:03:30.712 --> 01:03:31.092
That's correct

1395
01:03:31.112 --> 01:03:31.512
... essentially.

1396
01:03:31.892 --> 01:03:35.612
That's correct. The only thing we would have is that we would

1397
01:03:35.652 --> 01:03:39.552
have to go back on re-inspection for is the vacuum breakers on the sprinkler

1398
01:03:39.612 --> 01:03:40.992
systems that are outside the home.

1399
01:03:41.512 --> 01:03:41.752
Okay.

1400
01:03:42.052 --> 01:03:43.132
Those have to be tested.

1401
01:03:43.632 --> 01:03:45.032
And I guess one of the last questions,

1402
01:03:46.832 --> 01:03:50.632
and we talked about this privately, but I wanted to bring this out.

1403
01:03:51.232 --> 01:03:55.052
Instead of going to the different points in the home for

1404
01:03:55.772 --> 01:03:59.192
the anti-siphon control, why not put this

1405
01:03:59.312 --> 01:04:03.252
on the meter side and prevent it at a single

1406
01:04:03.292 --> 01:04:03.662
source?

1407
01:04:05.432 --> 01:04:05.832
Cost.

1408
01:04:07.152 --> 01:04:11.092
To put what they call an RPZ on each individual home is very,

1409
01:04:11.132 --> 01:04:15.012
very costly. You're talking up to a couple of hundred dollars per

1410
01:04:15.032 --> 01:04:17.192
device. That would be for each home.

1411
01:04:17.652 --> 01:04:18.702
And that was-

1412
01:04:18.702 --> 01:04:21.232
And the state's not requiring that for us to do that.

1413
01:04:21.312 --> 01:04:25.202
Okay. So two different things. It's not a requirement by the state, and it

1414
01:04:25.232 --> 01:04:28.882
was explored as an alternative to the program that

1415
01:04:28.932 --> 01:04:29.512
you've-

1416
01:04:29.552 --> 01:04:30.012
That's correct

1417
01:04:30.022 --> 01:04:30.312
... planned and adopted.

1418
01:04:30.492 --> 01:04:30.672
Yes.

1419
01:04:30.972 --> 01:04:32.132
All right. Thank you.

1420
01:04:34.092 --> 01:04:35.252
One last item.

1421
01:04:36.152 --> 01:04:36.692
I should have my

1422
01:04:37.732 --> 01:04:39.772
Columbo cup with me. Just one more question.

1423
01:04:41.512 --> 01:04:45.492
Can you please send a copy of the letters, the correspondence that

1424
01:04:45.512 --> 01:04:48.692
you're sending to the homeowners-

1425
01:04:49.232 --> 01:04:49.242
Yes

1426
01:04:49.242 --> 01:04:50.492
... so that we have the template?

1427
01:04:51.392 --> 01:04:55.182
Absolutely. We also have our program that we have,

1428
01:04:55.832 --> 01:04:57.612
pamphlets that we give out to the residents,

1429
01:04:58.732 --> 01:05:02.512
and then also our cards, our door tags that we hang on the doors.

1430
01:05:02.952 --> 01:05:03.502
Mm-hmm.

1431
01:05:03.592 --> 01:05:07.372
That has all the explanation for the homeowner if we don't meet with them with the

1432
01:05:07.412 --> 01:05:07.952
first try.

1433
01:05:08.252 --> 01:05:10.972
Yeah. As you might imagine, we get plenty of calls-

1434
01:05:11.012 --> 01:05:11.022
Absolutely

1435
01:05:11.022 --> 01:05:14.502
... for various items. It would be very helpful to have an example of

1436
01:05:14.512 --> 01:05:18.052
what somebody might be receiving, so we're more well prepared.

1437
01:05:18.152 --> 01:05:22.102
Absolutely. And everything that I explained tonight and asked is on

1438
01:05:22.112 --> 01:05:23.232
our website.

1439
01:05:23.312 --> 01:05:24.472
Thank you very much for your time.

1440
01:05:24.492 --> 01:05:24.932
Thank you.

1441
01:05:24.992 --> 01:05:25.932
I have no further questions.

1442
01:05:26.412 --> 01:05:27.292
Any other discussion?

1443
01:05:29.912 --> 01:05:32.682
Okay, hearing and seeing none, I will call the question. Ms. Moore?

1444
01:05:33.732 --> 01:05:34.832
Yes. Mr. Lafferty?

1445
01:05:35.052 --> 01:05:35.332
Yes.

1446
01:05:36.172 --> 01:05:36.761
Mr. Noonan?

1447
01:05:36.992 --> 01:05:37.232
Yes.

1448
01:05:37.352 --> 01:05:37.832
Ms. McGee?

1449
01:05:38.052 --> 01:05:38.332
Yes.

1450
01:05:38.672 --> 01:05:39.272
Mr. Boyki?

1451
01:05:39.432 --> 01:05:39.652
Yes.

1452
01:05:40.012 --> 01:05:42.752
Rogan says yes. Motion carries. Next item.

1453
01:05:42.872 --> 01:05:44.282
13B, consideration-

1454
01:05:44.412 --> 01:05:44.802
Thank you for your support.

1455
01:05:44.832 --> 01:05:48.261
I'm sorry, Mr. Cross. 13B, consideration and adoption of a

1456
01:05:48.312 --> 01:05:51.532
resolution approving the notice of intent and bond authorizing

1457
01:05:51.572 --> 01:05:55.252
resolution for a $50 million City of Warren

1458
01:05:55.412 --> 01:05:58.312
2026B capital improvement bond. So moved.

1459
01:05:58.712 --> 01:05:59.472
Support Lafferty.

1460
01:06:00.552 --> 01:06:00.782
Discussion?

1461
01:06:00.782 --> 01:06:01.412
Discussion.

1462
01:06:01.472 --> 01:06:02.232
Mr. Boyki.

1463
01:06:02.912 --> 01:06:03.512
Mr. Fox,

1464
01:06:06.292 --> 01:06:07.632
is this a renewal bond?

1465
01:06:08.992 --> 01:06:12.892
No. So as part of the budget, if you go to the very last page,

1466
01:06:13.312 --> 01:06:14.432
it lists all the-

1467
01:06:15.352 --> 01:06:15.362
Sorry

1468
01:06:15.362 --> 01:06:18.932
... capital improvement in the water and sewer system, and then the

1469
01:06:18.972 --> 01:06:20.892
equipment that we're buying with the general fund.

1470
01:06:21.432 --> 01:06:25.362
So this is to purchase equipment and to do all the

1471
01:06:25.452 --> 01:06:29.232
projects that are in the '27 budget for both the general

1472
01:06:29.292 --> 01:06:30.172
fund and the water.

1473
01:06:30.592 --> 01:06:31.512
No, I understand

1474
01:06:32.472 --> 01:06:33.142
that there are

1475
01:06:34.452 --> 01:06:38.240
two areas you could draw bonds fromWith

1476
01:06:38.340 --> 01:06:41.800
us taking this $50 million bond, will this

1477
01:06:41.860 --> 01:06:45.680
affect bonding for the courthouse or the wastewater

1478
01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:49.420
treatment plant if we have to bond something out there for repairs?

1479
01:06:50.980 --> 01:06:51.120
No,

1480
01:06:52.200 --> 01:06:52.740
it won't.

1481
01:06:52.750 --> 01:06:52.750
It won't.

1482
01:06:52.900 --> 01:06:56.880
Because the other bond, if we do the court, will be through the DDA, and

1483
01:06:56.920 --> 01:06:57.100
that'll be

1484
01:06:58.060 --> 01:06:59.590
a DDA-funded project.

1485
01:07:03.200 --> 01:07:04.720
What about the wastewater plant?

1486
01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:07.440
Wastewater, once that comes up, it'll be

1487
01:07:08.380 --> 01:07:12.280
similar to the bond we're doing here, and it'll just be

1488
01:07:12.300 --> 01:07:13.500
another bond that we sell

1489
01:07:14.640 --> 01:07:16.040
with a rate increase in the water

1490
01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:17.440
utilities.

1491
01:07:21.140 --> 01:07:24.520
And that bond is specific for items that were

1492
01:07:25.080 --> 01:07:28.260
in the budget presentation and along with the resolution.

1493
01:07:28.400 --> 01:07:28.900
In other words,

1494
01:07:30.080 --> 01:07:33.430
if we need a new furnace at the courthouse, we're not going to be able to use that

1495
01:07:33.540 --> 01:07:34.580
for that.

1496
01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:36.800
Not this bond, no.

1497
01:07:36.900 --> 01:07:37.620
So the court's-

1498
01:07:38.220 --> 01:07:38.880
Everything that's-

1499
01:07:38.940 --> 01:07:39.620
So that building-

1500
01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:39.969
Part of this bond is-

1501
01:07:39.969 --> 01:07:41.840
... that building's almost down on the ground.

1502
01:07:42.780 --> 01:07:46.440
And, we can't-- We're going to have to look elsewhere for funding for it.

1503
01:07:46.600 --> 01:07:50.580
Well, no, the court actually has the fund that if they

1504
01:07:50.660 --> 01:07:52.400
decide that if each-

1505
01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:56.120
The fund's there are for a new courthouse, not for repairs.

1506
01:07:56.710 --> 01:08:00.040
Well, I believe that they've looked at that, and that if they do need to buy some

1507
01:08:00.080 --> 01:08:04.010
heating and cooling units, that they actually can use, take them from the

1508
01:08:04.100 --> 01:08:05.640
old building and put them in the new building.

1509
01:08:06.660 --> 01:08:07.980
Okay, so just to

1510
01:08:08.840 --> 01:08:09.620
state it again.

1511
01:08:10.760 --> 01:08:14.240
If this passes, this will not affect getting bonds for the courthouse.

1512
01:08:15.430 --> 01:08:15.430
No.

1513
01:08:15.460 --> 01:08:15.920
Thank you.

1514
01:08:17.101 --> 01:08:17.900
Any other discussion?

1515
01:08:18.040 --> 01:08:18.500
Madam Chair.

1516
01:08:18.700 --> 01:08:19.280
Mr. Lafferty.

1517
01:08:19.980 --> 01:08:21.181
Thank you.

1518
01:08:23.280 --> 01:08:26.120
Through the chair to the controller. Good evening, sir.

1519
01:08:26.210 --> 01:08:26.380
Good evening.

1520
01:08:26.450 --> 01:08:28.641
The only question, this is step one.

1521
01:08:29.601 --> 01:08:32.181
You'll eventually come back to us with the sale of the bonds.

1522
01:08:33.280 --> 01:08:33.610
That's correct.

1523
01:08:33.610 --> 01:08:37.460
So, this is the second time we'll see this in the near future. Thank you.

1524
01:08:39.721 --> 01:08:40.561
Any other discussion?

1525
01:08:42.940 --> 01:08:44.681
Hearing and seeing none, I'll call the question. Ms. Moore?

1526
01:08:44.800 --> 01:08:45.000
Yes.

1527
01:08:45.101 --> 01:08:45.681
Mr. Lafferty?

1528
01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:46.021
Yes.

1529
01:08:46.440 --> 01:08:47.079
Mr. Bolke?

1530
01:08:47.521 --> 01:08:47.721
Yes.

1531
01:08:47.820 --> 01:08:48.380
Mr. Noonan?

1532
01:08:48.900 --> 01:08:49.181
Yes.

1533
01:08:49.280 --> 01:08:49.780
Ms. McGee?

1534
01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:50.101
Yes.

1535
01:08:50.380 --> 01:08:54.360
Rogan, C is a yes. Motion carries. Next item.

1536
01:08:54.641 --> 01:08:58.320
13C, request to approve a line item transfer of funds in the amount of

1537
01:08:58.340 --> 01:08:59.601
$84,030

1538
01:09:00.980 --> 01:09:03.260
and an additional appropriation of

1539
01:09:03.440 --> 01:09:07.021
$4,914,000 for the court administrative,

1540
01:09:07.420 --> 01:09:10.721
allocated, and city and police and fire retirement to

1541
01:09:10.740 --> 01:09:14.221
provide sufficient funding through fiscal year and consideration and

1542
01:09:14.300 --> 01:09:18.221
adoption of a resolution. Five votes needed. So moved.

1543
01:09:19.440 --> 01:09:20.160
Support Lafferty.

1544
01:09:21.521 --> 01:09:22.320
Any discussion?

1545
01:09:25.360 --> 01:09:29.141
Okay. Hearing and seeing none, I'll call the question. Ms. Moore?

1546
01:09:29.521 --> 01:09:29.690
Yes.

1547
01:09:29.860 --> 01:09:30.440
Mr. Lafferty?

1548
01:09:30.580 --> 01:09:30.820
Yes.

1549
01:09:31.021 --> 01:09:31.820
Mr. Bolke?

1550
01:09:31.900 --> 01:09:32.090
Yes.

1551
01:09:32.240 --> 01:09:32.851
Mr. Noonan?

1552
01:09:33.080 --> 01:09:33.311
Yes.

1553
01:09:33.460 --> 01:09:33.960
Ms. McGee?

1554
01:09:34.240 --> 01:09:34.500
Yes.

1555
01:09:34.860 --> 01:09:37.440
Rogan, C is a yes. Motion carries. Next item.

1556
01:09:37.500 --> 01:09:41.240
Next item is 13D, request of the library director for an additional appropriation

1557
01:09:41.280 --> 01:09:44.980
of funds in the amount of $390,800 to cover the

1558
01:09:45.040 --> 01:09:48.950
increased costs for the rooftop HVAC system, postage and

1559
01:09:49.040 --> 01:09:52.851
contractual obligations, consideration, and adoption of a resolution. So moved.

1560
01:09:53.521 --> 01:09:54.260
Support Lafferty.

1561
01:09:54.760 --> 01:09:58.620
Discussion, anyone? Hearing and seeing none, I'll call the question.

1562
01:09:58.660 --> 01:09:59.010
Ms. Moore?

1563
01:09:59.220 --> 01:09:59.440
Yes.

1564
01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:00.140
Mr. Lafferty?

1565
01:10:00.340 --> 01:10:00.600
Yes.

1566
01:10:01.440 --> 01:10:01.980
Mr. Noonan?

1567
01:10:02.260 --> 01:10:02.480
Yes.

1568
01:10:02.620 --> 01:10:03.120
Ms. McGee?

1569
01:10:03.380 --> 01:10:03.640
Yes.

1570
01:10:03.740 --> 01:10:04.480
Mr. Bolke?

1571
01:10:04.580 --> 01:10:04.780
Yes.

1572
01:10:05.060 --> 01:10:07.780
Rogan, C is a yes. Motion carries. Next item.

1573
01:10:08.260 --> 01:10:12.000
Next item is 13E, request for a line item transfer of funds in the police

1574
01:10:12.020 --> 01:10:15.920
department in the amount of $2 million and an additional appropriation of

1575
01:10:15.929 --> 01:10:19.880
$632,000 to cover contractual obligations for the

1576
01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:23.260
remainder of the fiscal year. Consideration and adoption of a

1577
01:10:23.340 --> 01:10:25.640
resolution. So moved with discussion.

1578
01:10:26.720 --> 01:10:27.420
Support Lafferty.

1579
01:10:28.040 --> 01:10:28.720
Any discussion?

1580
01:10:29.900 --> 01:10:31.880
Man, we got to get control of these costs.

1581
01:10:34.340 --> 01:10:38.240
We just had budget hearings and now we're doing

1582
01:10:38.360 --> 01:10:40.480
2.6 million after.

1583
01:10:42.920 --> 01:10:45.680
We've got to do something to start containing these costs.

1584
01:10:45.720 --> 01:10:48.080
That's a lot of money.

1585
01:10:48.920 --> 01:10:49.320
It is.

1586
01:10:51.060 --> 01:10:51.420
That's all.

1587
01:10:52.580 --> 01:10:54.200
Any other discussion?

1588
01:10:56.000 --> 01:10:57.740
Hearing and seeing none, I'll call the question. Ms. Moore?

1589
01:10:57.940 --> 01:10:58.140
Yes.

1590
01:10:58.240 --> 01:10:58.849
Mr. Lafferty?

1591
01:10:58.959 --> 01:10:59.219
Yes.

1592
01:11:00.260 --> 01:11:00.860
Mr. Noonan?

1593
01:11:01.260 --> 01:11:01.510
Yes.

1594
01:11:01.700 --> 01:11:02.160
Ms. McGee?

1595
01:11:02.320 --> 01:11:02.520
Yes.

1596
01:11:03.060 --> 01:11:05.000
Rogan, C is a yes or Mr. Bolke?

1597
01:11:05.120 --> 01:11:05.320
Yes.

1598
01:11:05.700 --> 01:11:07.860
Rogan, C is a yes. Motion carries. Next item.

1599
01:11:08.040 --> 01:11:08.390
Next item-

1600
01:11:08.750 --> 01:11:11.380
Point of order. I'm sorry. Item

1601
01:11:11.580 --> 01:11:12.980
13C,

1602
01:11:14.140 --> 01:11:16.140
I had noted an issue with the resolution.

1603
01:11:16.670 --> 01:11:20.460
The mathematics was wrong in the tally from the

1604
01:11:20.500 --> 01:11:21.220
transfer to.

1605
01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:26.220
And so I'd like to ask that we amend that from

1606
01:11:26.320 --> 01:11:29.680
$4,998,300 to

1607
01:11:29.780 --> 01:11:33.100
$4,998,030.

1608
01:11:35.120 --> 01:11:35.780
Oh, the resolution.

1609
01:11:35.820 --> 01:11:36.640
It was in our resolution.

1610
01:11:36.650 --> 01:11:39.280
Oh, this is correct, these numbers here.

1611
01:11:39.500 --> 01:11:40.520
The number in the title-

1612
01:11:40.960 --> 01:11:41.050
Right

1613
01:11:41.050 --> 01:11:41.580
... was correct.

1614
01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:42.020
Yeah.

1615
01:11:44.230 --> 01:11:44.230
Yes.

1616
01:11:44.260 --> 01:11:47.140
Do we need to go back to that item or are you just putting it on the record?

1617
01:11:47.170 --> 01:11:47.860
No, we'll just fix it.

1618
01:11:48.080 --> 01:11:48.740
Yeah, just fix it.

1619
01:11:48.880 --> 01:11:49.060
Okay.

1620
01:11:49.100 --> 01:11:50.260
It's just... Yeah.

1621
01:11:50.300 --> 01:11:53.080
Thank you. We're moving on to 13F.

1622
01:11:54.180 --> 01:11:57.840
13F is request of the rental division for a transfer of funds between line

1623
01:11:57.900 --> 01:12:01.870
items in the amount of 43,000 to cover the increased cost for temporary

1624
01:12:01.980 --> 01:12:05.220
clerical and contractual obligations for the remainder of the fiscal year,

1625
01:12:05.320 --> 01:12:08.200
consideration and adoption of a resolution. So moved.

1626
01:12:08.540 --> 01:12:09.260
Support Lafferty.

1627
01:12:09.800 --> 01:12:10.540
Any discussion?

1628
01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:14.630
Hearing and seeing none, I'll call the question. Ms. Moore?

1629
01:12:14.720 --> 01:12:14.979
Yes.

1630
01:12:15.260 --> 01:12:15.880
Mr. Lafferty?

1631
01:12:16.020 --> 01:12:16.280
Yes.

1632
01:12:16.580 --> 01:12:17.220
Mr. Noonan?

1633
01:12:17.500 --> 01:12:17.740
Yes.

1634
01:12:17.820 --> 01:12:18.360
Ms. McGee?

1635
01:12:18.580 --> 01:12:18.870
Yes.

1636
01:12:18.920 --> 01:12:19.580
Mr. Bolke?

1637
01:12:19.680 --> 01:12:19.870
Yes.

1638
01:12:20.480 --> 01:12:23.320
Rogan, C is a yes. Motion carries. Next item.

1639
01:12:23.380 --> 01:12:27.360
Next item is 13G, request of the budget director for a line item transfer of

1640
01:12:27.400 --> 01:12:30.050
funds in the amount of $70,225

1641
01:12:30.860 --> 01:12:34.680
and an additional appropriation of $60,100 to

1642
01:12:34.700 --> 01:12:38.600
cover contractual obligations and to provide sufficient funding through end

1643
01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:41.970
of fiscal year consideration and adoption of a resolution. So moved.

1644
01:12:42.360 --> 01:12:43.040
Support Lafferty.

1645
01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:47.868
DiscussionHearing and seeing none, I'll call

1646
01:12:47.888 --> 01:12:48.828
the question. Ms. Moore?

1647
01:12:49.908 --> 01:12:50.128
Yes.

1648
01:12:50.308 --> 01:12:50.928
Mr. Lafferty?

1649
01:12:51.108 --> 01:12:51.348
Yes.

1650
01:12:53.088 --> 01:12:54.848
Mr. Noonan? Yes. Ms. McGee?

1651
01:12:54.968 --> 01:12:55.188
Yes.

1652
01:12:55.288 --> 01:12:59.108
Mr. Boyke? Yes. Roggenklep is a yes. Motion carries.

1653
01:12:59.188 --> 01:12:59.668
Next item.

1654
01:12:59.728 --> 01:13:03.228
Next item is 13H, request to approve the reappointment of Mahmoud

1655
01:13:03.268 --> 01:13:06.858
Omari to the Planning Commission with a term expiration of June 30,

1656
01:13:07.368 --> 01:13:08.188
2029.

1657
01:13:09.248 --> 01:13:09.688
So moved.

1658
01:13:10.148 --> 01:13:10.868
Support Lafferty.

1659
01:13:11.568 --> 01:13:12.268
Any discussion?

1660
01:13:14.188 --> 01:13:15.998
Hearing and seeing none, I'll call the question. Ms. Moore?

1661
01:13:16.148 --> 01:13:16.368
Yes.

1662
01:13:16.528 --> 01:13:17.268
Mr. Lafferty?

1663
01:13:17.388 --> 01:13:17.648
Yes.

1664
01:13:18.308 --> 01:13:19.988
Mr. Noonan? Yes. Ms. McGee?

1665
01:13:20.268 --> 01:13:20.548
Yes.

1666
01:13:20.728 --> 01:13:24.468
Mr. Boyke? Yes. Roggenklep is a yes. Motion carries.

1667
01:13:24.708 --> 01:13:25.448
Next item.

1668
01:13:25.508 --> 01:13:28.198
Next item is audience participation for general topics.

1669
01:13:28.828 --> 01:13:32.648
Members of the audience who would like to address city council this evening may do

1670
01:13:32.828 --> 01:13:35.328
so by filling out an audience form

1671
01:13:36.868 --> 01:13:37.828
to the right.

1672
01:13:39.028 --> 01:13:41.068
Thank you. You have three minutes.

1673
01:13:41.428 --> 01:13:44.788
I will give you a one-minute or 30-second

1674
01:13:44.908 --> 01:13:47.868
countdown. First is Yvonne

1675
01:13:48.568 --> 01:13:49.428
Palowata?

1676
01:13:50.867 --> 01:13:50.878
Palowata.

1677
01:13:50.878 --> 01:13:51.647
Palowata.

1678
01:13:54.048 --> 01:13:57.748
Good evening, city council. My name's Yvonne Palowata.

1679
01:13:58.048 --> 01:14:00.928
I periodically been coming to the council

1680
01:14:01.068 --> 01:14:02.568
to

1681
01:14:04.108 --> 01:14:07.698
ask for help because I saw my community, my neighbors, were

1682
01:14:07.828 --> 01:14:11.738
actually deteriorating, and I wanted to know how I

1683
01:14:11.768 --> 01:14:13.568
could help my community.

1684
01:14:14.548 --> 01:14:16.948
So what I did is I started Neighborhood Watch.

1685
01:14:17.088 --> 01:14:18.548
I had a community garden,

1686
01:14:19.488 --> 01:14:23.468
and I also joined the Beautification Commission, also

1687
01:14:23.478 --> 01:14:24.288
the Garden Club.

1688
01:14:25.328 --> 01:14:28.918
And what I'm getting at is I had a Neighborhood Watch May 30th,

1689
01:14:29.708 --> 01:14:33.588
and I had asked for help for our community garden

1690
01:14:33.628 --> 01:14:35.908
because I got tired of seeing people using our

1691
01:14:36.828 --> 01:14:40.188
park as a city dump, and our flags were

1692
01:14:40.868 --> 01:14:41.348
hanging,

1693
01:14:42.328 --> 01:14:45.808
which was a disgrace to see. So I took matters into my own

1694
01:14:46.068 --> 01:14:47.728
hands and asked the mayor

1695
01:14:48.848 --> 01:14:52.208
to help with our neighborhood and our community.

1696
01:14:53.028 --> 01:14:56.148
I just want to say thank you to Mayor Stone and her team

1697
01:14:57.448 --> 01:15:00.508
that supported me and actually

1698
01:15:02.268 --> 01:15:04.068
took time out to problem solve

1699
01:15:05.208 --> 01:15:09.128
with our community. And I am so happy because my community, my

1700
01:15:09.168 --> 01:15:11.248
neighborhood, is actually,

1701
01:15:12.338 --> 01:15:16.168
I want to say, 99% better after we had

1702
01:15:16.248 --> 01:15:20.168
more community talking to each other and communicating a lot

1703
01:15:20.208 --> 01:15:20.548
better.

1704
01:15:21.588 --> 01:15:23.368
I seriously want to thank

1705
01:15:26.188 --> 01:15:29.728
Rhonda, I forgot her last name, Hawkins, I think. Hawks.

1706
01:15:30.588 --> 01:15:34.548
And Judy Smith with Mayor Stone's office.

1707
01:15:34.608 --> 01:15:38.597
And I want to thank Security Credit Union employees and

1708
01:15:39.248 --> 01:15:42.188
Warren police officer Jonathan Karz...

1709
01:15:42.748 --> 01:15:44.748
I cannot pronounce the name. Karzek.

1710
01:15:45.888 --> 01:15:48.868
K-R-Z-E-S-Z-A-K.

1711
01:15:50.048 --> 01:15:53.468
And Kevin Opras and family. These

1712
01:15:53.588 --> 01:15:54.068
people,

1713
01:15:55.068 --> 01:15:59.008
it's an honor to know them because they believe in Warren,

1714
01:15:59.028 --> 01:16:02.608
and they actually believe in helping our neighbors and our

1715
01:16:02.648 --> 01:16:03.258
community.

1716
01:16:04.428 --> 01:16:06.758
If you're interested in pictures of being-

1717
01:16:07.468 --> 01:16:08.448
One minute

1718
01:16:09.128 --> 01:16:10.848
... our park was being used as a dump.

1719
01:16:11.108 --> 01:16:11.448
And

1720
01:16:12.728 --> 01:16:16.608
as under the Beautification commissioner, I took it

1721
01:16:16.708 --> 01:16:17.188
as a

1722
01:16:19.628 --> 01:16:23.448
opportunity to take care of it myself, because I love Warren,

1723
01:16:23.668 --> 01:16:25.428
and thank you for your time.

1724
01:16:27.328 --> 01:16:28.508
Thank you. Thank you.

1725
01:16:29.928 --> 01:16:31.908
Next is Joel Vander Linden.

1726
01:16:36.748 --> 01:16:36.758
Do

1727
01:16:36.758 --> 01:16:41.778
you

1728
01:16:41.778 --> 01:16:48.408
need

1729
01:16:49.368 --> 01:16:49.628
help?

1730
01:16:50.788 --> 01:16:51.048
Yeah.

1731
01:16:52.608 --> 01:16:53.208
Sorry.

1732
01:16:54.778 --> 01:16:55.948
Wide load coming through.

1733
01:17:15.788 --> 01:17:16.788
You ready, Mr. Vander Linden?

1734
01:17:17.688 --> 01:17:17.848
No.

1735
01:17:18.008 --> 01:17:19.088
Okay.

1736
01:17:22.748 --> 01:17:23.307
Can you hear me?

1737
01:17:24.468 --> 01:17:24.728
Yes.

1738
01:17:24.868 --> 01:17:25.148
Yes.

1739
01:17:25.448 --> 01:17:25.748
Ready?

1740
01:17:26.828 --> 01:17:29.488
Joel Vander Linden, longtime Warren resident.

1741
01:17:31.328 --> 01:17:34.608
Many concerning things have been brought up during this council meeting

1742
01:17:34.648 --> 01:17:38.128
today. I'd like to start with FOIA's.

1743
01:17:39.548 --> 01:17:40.868
I put in FOIA's

1744
01:17:41.788 --> 01:17:45.168
about the police chief, as other people have.

1745
01:17:46.208 --> 01:17:49.968
I put in FOIA's about the property maintenance department,

1746
01:17:50.628 --> 01:17:52.288
about the rentals departments,

1747
01:17:54.128 --> 01:17:57.128
about their qualifications and if everything has been

1748
01:17:57.188 --> 01:17:58.148
met.

1749
01:17:59.308 --> 01:18:00.608
And I've been denied

1750
01:18:02.208 --> 01:18:03.068
on all of these.

1751
01:18:04.508 --> 01:18:08.048
And yet I went to the denial hearing and everything else,

1752
01:18:09.248 --> 01:18:10.008
and I won,

1753
01:18:12.028 --> 01:18:14.568
and some of these go back a year and a half.

1754
01:18:14.688 --> 01:18:16.468
Some of these go back farther.

1755
01:18:18.188 --> 01:18:19.668
And I have received nothing.

1756
01:18:21.028 --> 01:18:21.388
Why?

1757
01:18:23.368 --> 01:18:26.008
I've come to this council many times before.

1758
01:18:26.648 --> 01:18:28.688
Why am I not receiving the FOIA's?

1759
01:18:30.528 --> 01:18:32.508
Why am I not receiving them in the mail

1760
01:18:33.348 --> 01:18:34.428
or in my email?

1761
01:18:36.128 --> 01:18:38.728
With all the money this city

1762
01:18:39.608 --> 01:18:40.308
spends

1763
01:18:41.268 --> 01:18:42.148
heedlessly,

1764
01:18:43.948 --> 01:18:46.478
you'd think the public deserves their

1765
01:18:46.508 --> 01:18:51.340
FOIA'sThe

1766
01:18:51.400 --> 01:18:53.000
second thing that came to mind

1767
01:18:54.260 --> 01:18:57.640
is with all the technology we have when we moved the whole

1768
01:18:58.620 --> 01:19:00.900
consulting to this building and stuff,

1769
01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:05.500
is we still haven't done enough for the disabled.

1770
01:19:08.880 --> 01:19:12.000
We haven't put a section for the disabled, so we're not

1771
01:19:12.860 --> 01:19:14.960
clashing in with everybody else.

1772
01:19:16.620 --> 01:19:17.660
And I know it's tight,

1773
01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:22.240
but there still should be reasonable accountability for us.

1774
01:19:24.900 --> 01:19:26.520
The other thing that got me was-

1775
01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:29.960
One minute, Mr. Vander Linden

1776
01:19:30.820 --> 01:19:31.680
... there's no

1777
01:19:32.580 --> 01:19:36.340
theme for those of us that should be at home

1778
01:19:36.380 --> 01:19:37.080
doing this

1779
01:19:38.900 --> 01:19:42.680
set up yet. It's been called upon by the great Mr.

1780
01:19:43.020 --> 01:19:43.460
Baker

1781
01:19:44.880 --> 01:19:47.420
three years ago when he brought it to

1782
01:19:48.620 --> 01:19:51.500
the previous council and this council's attention

1783
01:19:52.520 --> 01:19:54.780
that there's not enough being done

1784
01:19:55.860 --> 01:19:57.820
for the physically disabled people.

1785
01:19:58.780 --> 01:20:01.300
We should be able to sit in our front rooms,

1786
01:20:02.390 --> 01:20:03.840
talk on our telephone

1787
01:20:04.840 --> 01:20:05.780
or on the Zoom,

1788
01:20:06.700 --> 01:20:09.800
and express ourselves our concerns, our needs.

1789
01:20:10.680 --> 01:20:12.420
And I'll follow up with the last one.

1790
01:20:12.460 --> 01:20:16.420
The gentleman here about checking our basements on the water

1791
01:20:16.560 --> 01:20:17.980
lines and stuff like that.

1792
01:20:18.540 --> 01:20:19.260
10 seconds.

1793
01:20:20.360 --> 01:20:22.280
There is no warrant

1794
01:20:23.520 --> 01:20:23.740
by

1795
01:20:24.580 --> 01:20:28.400
being issued to search our house. That's illegal search

1796
01:20:28.620 --> 01:20:29.160
and seizure.

1797
01:20:29.220 --> 01:20:30.310
You're at time, Mr. Vander Linden.

1798
01:20:30.330 --> 01:20:32.640
And then we're going to do it every five years.

1799
01:20:32.740 --> 01:20:35.100
Mr. Vander Linden, you're at time. Thank you.

1800
01:20:37.060 --> 01:20:37.860
Next is

1801
01:20:38.700 --> 01:20:39.040
Ray

1802
01:20:40.180 --> 01:20:41.740
from Friend of the Father.

1803
01:21:10.400 --> 01:21:11.400
Ray, what's your last name again?

1804
01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:12.280
Deloache.

1805
01:21:12.500 --> 01:21:12.860
Thank you.

1806
01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:16.290
You're free to start.

1807
01:21:17.360 --> 01:21:18.860
First, I would like to say thank you

1808
01:21:19.740 --> 01:21:22.840
to all the city council members that assisted

1809
01:21:22.900 --> 01:21:26.800
me during this time of running the homeless shelter here in

1810
01:21:26.840 --> 01:21:27.300
our city.

1811
01:21:28.480 --> 01:21:30.420
I'm not going to use three minutes.

1812
01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:33.160
We have 45 days.

1813
01:21:35.020 --> 01:21:38.840
Forty-five days to either find another building, or 45 days,

1814
01:21:39.700 --> 01:21:40.600
I will shut it down.

1815
01:21:42.100 --> 01:21:44.620
At first, when I first opened, I was taking as

1816
01:21:45.440 --> 01:21:48.000
many people off the street of the city of Warren

1817
01:21:48.800 --> 01:21:51.920
to lower the percentage at our jail cells and our hospitals.

1818
01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:54.760
I did just that. No assistance.

1819
01:21:55.709 --> 01:21:58.520
I did turn in a form recently for one of the

1820
01:21:58.560 --> 01:22:00.830
fundings. I miswrote it.

1821
01:22:01.740 --> 01:22:05.480
That's my fault, but in the midst, the office that I gave a

1822
01:22:05.500 --> 01:22:08.980
funding form to, they never reached out to me to tell

1823
01:22:09.020 --> 01:22:11.320
me that it was done incorrectly.

1824
01:22:13.380 --> 01:22:13.820
Not at all.

1825
01:22:15.100 --> 01:22:15.649
Right now,

1826
01:22:16.500 --> 01:22:17.220
at our shelter,

1827
01:22:18.600 --> 01:22:22.090
92% of the homelessness that's at our shelter

1828
01:22:22.500 --> 01:22:26.010
are Warren residents. I've never seen so many women and

1829
01:22:26.040 --> 01:22:29.920
children and men and children needing help because they

1830
01:22:29.960 --> 01:22:33.290
lost their homes here in Warren or across Macomb County.

1831
01:22:34.660 --> 01:22:38.510
I believe in taking care of my community and my country.

1832
01:22:39.480 --> 01:22:43.470
I turned down a promotion with the Michigan State Guard as

1833
01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:47.140
a staff sergeant to stay here in Warren to

1834
01:22:47.860 --> 01:22:48.680
run this shelter.

1835
01:22:49.700 --> 01:22:50.780
I'm still self-funded.

1836
01:22:51.780 --> 01:22:52.420
At this point,

1837
01:22:53.360 --> 01:22:54.160
I'm doing the work,

1838
01:22:55.140 --> 01:22:58.560
not asking for anything but just a push.

1839
01:22:59.380 --> 01:23:00.340
I have not gotten it.

1840
01:23:01.220 --> 01:23:02.500
So that being said,

1841
01:23:03.380 --> 01:23:04.200
I can no longer

1842
01:23:05.080 --> 01:23:06.330
continue to run that shelter

1843
01:23:07.280 --> 01:23:09.840
in another person's property without paying him.

1844
01:23:10.960 --> 01:23:14.190
Either I can find another building and someone in the city can help

1845
01:23:14.320 --> 01:23:18.100
me, and I can utilize it and keep our streets clean-

1846
01:23:18.440 --> 01:23:18.770
One minute

1847
01:23:19.240 --> 01:23:20.300
... our jail cells clean,

1848
01:23:21.160 --> 01:23:22.320
and our hospitals cleaned.

1849
01:23:23.200 --> 01:23:25.100
It needs to be done. Thank you.

1850
01:23:26.060 --> 01:23:26.500
Thank you.

1851
01:23:27.540 --> 01:23:30.200
Next is Jeff Matthews.

1852
01:23:37.020 --> 01:23:40.980
Good evening, Council. I'm Jeff Matthews, co-founder of the South

1853
01:23:41.040 --> 01:23:44.080
Warren Community Garden and board member of Urban Seed.

1854
01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:47.930
Just a little update about the South Warren Garden.

1855
01:23:48.860 --> 01:23:51.450
So to let you know, from where we were last year

1856
01:23:52.400 --> 01:23:56.260
where I think we hadn't even gotten on the property yet, we've

1857
01:23:56.320 --> 01:24:00.280
already had harvests. And we have harvested already this year nearly

1858
01:24:00.290 --> 01:24:03.120
a third of what our total was last year.

1859
01:24:03.590 --> 01:24:06.610
That is 40 pounds of food that is now in the community.

1860
01:24:07.480 --> 01:24:11.060
Our stand has been visited by seven people just on

1861
01:24:11.100 --> 01:24:13.640
Sunday. We had a dozen volunteers.

1862
01:24:14.100 --> 01:24:18.060
Our bed expansions have been completed, as is currently funded, and our auto

1863
01:24:18.160 --> 01:24:21.720
water is partly installed. It's hard to get to because we're so busy

1864
01:24:22.480 --> 01:24:24.580
talking to people. I don't have a moment.

1865
01:24:26.120 --> 01:24:28.780
We've had a tremendous amount of meetings with local nonprofits.

1866
01:24:28.940 --> 01:24:32.780
Just today, I had a meeting with a local health clinic that I won't name about the

1867
01:24:32.820 --> 01:24:35.980
possibility of partnering in some federal block grants.

1868
01:24:36.520 --> 01:24:40.440
So that means funding might be back into our program way sooner than

1869
01:24:40.480 --> 01:24:44.360
we thought. We might be able to do things that we didn't even think we

1870
01:24:44.380 --> 01:24:48.180
could do until next year. So with that, we're already

1871
01:24:48.600 --> 01:24:52.400
maybe approaching growing out of the space that we're in.

1872
01:24:52.560 --> 01:24:55.700
We're about two-thirds full. We just added a butterfly garden

1873
01:24:56.800 --> 01:24:57.420
and a

1874
01:24:58.620 --> 01:25:02.404
generalflower garden, and that's going

1875
01:25:02.444 --> 01:25:05.454
amazing. People are showing up in droves with

1876
01:25:05.484 --> 01:25:09.464
donations, flowers, and just all types of stuff.

1877
01:25:09.504 --> 01:25:12.574
A Girl Scout troop came with a special variety

1878
01:25:13.144 --> 01:25:16.904
of milkweed that was used, they call it Petoskey milkweed.

1879
01:25:17.184 --> 01:25:20.954
It was used during the war to stuff the life jackets of

1880
01:25:21.544 --> 01:25:23.424
the service people upon those ships.

1881
01:25:23.504 --> 01:25:25.984
And they've kept that lineage alive.

1882
01:25:26.044 --> 01:25:27.454
So a neat little part of

1883
01:25:28.384 --> 01:25:29.644
that is now alive in Warren.

1884
01:25:31.864 --> 01:25:33.874
On the horizon, things that are just

1885
01:25:34.924 --> 01:25:35.284
kind of

1886
01:25:36.384 --> 01:25:37.624
our stretch goals,

1887
01:25:38.484 --> 01:25:42.424
we still have some money left for a solar system, and we're discussing

1888
01:25:42.464 --> 01:25:45.924
installing a solar-run community

1889
01:25:46.024 --> 01:25:49.764
refrigerator. So that means that the produce that we're

1890
01:25:49.784 --> 01:25:52.864
harvesting is going to be able to stretch out.

1891
01:25:52.924 --> 01:25:56.684
We might be able to do a program where people could just take

1892
01:25:56.724 --> 01:26:00.224
containers of greens that are lightly washed

1893
01:26:00.424 --> 01:26:04.234
and maybe just a small peroxide additive within food

1894
01:26:04.324 --> 01:26:08.164
guidelines, and those greens could last them weeks in their refrigerator.

1895
01:26:08.744 --> 01:26:12.624
So not only is this happening just on a street level, this could be happening in

1896
01:26:12.664 --> 01:26:14.044
people's homes so, so soon.

1897
01:26:15.464 --> 01:26:18.054
And just the outpouring and the general

1898
01:26:19.844 --> 01:26:23.004
mood of everyone that comes by there is amazing.

1899
01:26:23.104 --> 01:26:26.984
And I want to thank Ms. Moore. You've showed up

1900
01:26:27.064 --> 01:26:29.284
and walked through with us. That was so much fun.

1901
01:26:29.654 --> 01:26:33.524
And I know Dave Dwyer's not here, but he came through and we

1902
01:26:33.564 --> 01:26:36.524
were able to kind of give a vision,

1903
01:26:37.484 --> 01:26:41.064
because there's so many things on the horizon, like a possible grant

1904
01:26:41.404 --> 01:26:42.784
from Kubota if we get it.

1905
01:26:42.864 --> 01:26:43.564
You're at time.

1906
01:26:43.644 --> 01:26:43.704
Oh.

1907
01:26:44.154 --> 01:26:44.154
Sorry.

1908
01:26:44.184 --> 01:26:45.784
Thank you so much. Have a great night.

1909
01:26:45.844 --> 01:26:46.164
Thanks.

1910
01:26:48.484 --> 01:26:50.504
That is the end of audience.

1911
01:26:51.684 --> 01:26:55.664
Next is council response to audience. Madam Chair?

1912
01:26:55.924 --> 01:26:57.324
It's Schander.

1913
01:26:57.384 --> 01:26:57.684
Yes.

1914
01:26:58.844 --> 01:27:02.504
I want to thank Mr. Matthews for coming and giving us an

1915
01:27:02.564 --> 01:27:04.514
update. I've talked with

1916
01:27:06.044 --> 01:27:10.034
John. We've been going back and forth trying to set up a time and seeing what

1917
01:27:10.064 --> 01:27:12.384
we can do about a little expansion, maybe.

1918
01:27:12.444 --> 01:27:12.664
Yeah.

1919
01:27:12.764 --> 01:27:15.994
So we'll get our schedules coordinated

1920
01:27:16.504 --> 01:27:17.384
and-

1921
01:27:17.784 --> 01:27:17.794
Sounds good

1922
01:27:17.794 --> 01:27:20.104
... but I'm glad to hear how well you're doing. Thank you.

1923
01:27:23.244 --> 01:27:23.724
Madam Chair?

1924
01:27:24.004 --> 01:27:24.724
Mr. Lafferty,

1925
01:27:25.944 --> 01:27:26.644
then Ms. McGee.

1926
01:27:27.504 --> 01:27:29.744
We had a discussion about

1927
01:27:30.824 --> 01:27:33.624
Mr. Veloche and the

1928
01:27:34.504 --> 01:27:35.264
Friend of the Father-

1929
01:27:35.664 --> 01:27:35.924
Mm-hmm

1930
01:27:36.324 --> 01:27:39.324
... where the city attorney's office was directed

1931
01:27:39.504 --> 01:27:40.504
to

1932
01:27:41.324 --> 01:27:43.404
develop a legal agreement

1933
01:27:44.224 --> 01:27:46.764
for nonprofits to apply for,

1934
01:27:47.664 --> 01:27:49.324
as in the case of Friend of the Father-

1935
01:27:49.334 --> 01:27:49.944
Services

1936
01:27:50.224 --> 01:27:53.584
... and so I'd like to get a

1937
01:27:54.224 --> 01:27:57.974
status of that, where that is at. I know that Mr.

1938
01:27:58.184 --> 01:28:01.944
Schroeder had eyes on it and had redlined it,

1939
01:28:02.624 --> 01:28:05.664
and Ms. Michaels was actively working on that.

1940
01:28:06.264 --> 01:28:08.524
But it was for

1941
01:28:09.364 --> 01:28:12.644
the colder months, so obviously well past that.

1942
01:28:12.724 --> 01:28:16.624
This was in January. And then nothing

1943
01:28:16.724 --> 01:28:17.684
seemed to come of that, but

1944
01:28:19.164 --> 01:28:21.224
we're going to need those services and perhaps

1945
01:28:22.104 --> 01:28:25.144
there's something that needs to be done

1946
01:28:26.264 --> 01:28:29.744
on an ongoing basis. I know we were only talking for

1947
01:28:30.264 --> 01:28:34.004
a short amount of time, 15,000 perhaps

1948
01:28:35.144 --> 01:28:37.233
January through March, but

1949
01:28:38.304 --> 01:28:39.094
maybe there is

1950
01:28:40.044 --> 01:28:43.334
an additional need here. So I'd like to ask for the city attorney's office to

1951
01:28:43.364 --> 01:28:46.624
provide an update to council office on that initiative.

1952
01:28:49.384 --> 01:28:50.024
Ms. McGee.

1953
01:28:50.744 --> 01:28:52.424
Yes. I just wanted to bring up that

1954
01:28:53.404 --> 01:28:57.314
I went to Gleaners. We all were asked to come to Gleaners and

1955
01:28:57.384 --> 01:29:00.584
do a short, brief tour, and I went on the tour.

1956
01:29:01.444 --> 01:29:05.244
They will be distributing food at their

1957
01:29:05.284 --> 01:29:07.404
Fresh Start location on 8 Mile

1958
01:29:08.604 --> 01:29:12.244
on the weekends. And you would have to sign up,

1959
01:29:12.764 --> 01:29:16.163
and I can provide that information to you, but they will be doing

1960
01:29:16.203 --> 01:29:19.784
curbside pickup times on Thursdays from 2:00 to 6:00 PM,

1961
01:29:20.264 --> 01:29:21.444
and on Fridays

1962
01:29:22.744 --> 01:29:24.404
from 2:00 PM to

1963
01:29:25.664 --> 01:29:29.544
6:00 PM, and then on Saturdays-- I'm sorry, it's on Friday and Saturday.

1964
01:29:29.904 --> 01:29:33.044
And Saturdays from 11:00 to 3:00 PM.

1965
01:29:34.044 --> 01:29:37.884
You're able to get milk and eggs and bread and

1966
01:29:37.904 --> 01:29:40.624
fruit only. There will be no meat involved.

1967
01:29:40.644 --> 01:29:43.084
But if you know of someone in need,

1968
01:29:44.244 --> 01:29:46.574
just get in contact with Gleaners

1969
01:29:47.504 --> 01:29:51.144
Fresh Start store on 8 Mile. And that's for area code

1970
01:29:51.324 --> 01:29:55.304
48091 only. They're doing a test

1971
01:29:55.664 --> 01:29:59.484
trial right now, and they may be using other zip codes

1972
01:29:59.524 --> 01:30:02.104
within the city of Warren. Thank you.

1973
01:30:04.664 --> 01:30:06.544
Any other council response?

1974
01:30:08.864 --> 01:30:09.144
Okay.

1975
01:30:10.264 --> 01:30:10.904
Next item.

1976
01:30:11.394 --> 01:30:12.244
Motion to adjourn.

1977
01:30:13.884 --> 01:30:14.644
Support Lafferty.

1978
01:30:15.664 --> 01:30:16.304
All in favor?

1979
01:30:16.564 --> 01:30:16.944
Aye.

1980
01:30:17.344 --> 01:30:19.944
Any opposed? We are adjourned. Thank you, everyone.